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[00:24] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29973 10/branches/proposals/5.x/tiki-adminusers.php: [bp/r29917][FIX] Admin users: CSRF check done when just visualizing a user
[00:42] <Trebly> !Help : Who knows where the encoding of data read from database is made and defined ? Curious Problem with encoding utf8
[00:42] <Trebly>     Context : Version 5.3, With a database utf8 right encoded data : two identical installations one on windows one on linux.
[00:42] <Trebly>     Facts :
[00:42] <Trebly>     With the same data a server sends full utf8 pages while another installation the display of the page is seen globally by the navigator as utf8, but contains menus and various text (system text) in utf8, while titles of pages, articles and their content are received converted "where ?" into latin1 then unusable (then accentuated chars of French appears as "?", and as it is into the content...
[00:43] <Trebly>     ...the searches made by key-text naturally fail).
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[01:32] <ralnaemi> !help tracker
[01:32] <ralnaemi> !help
[01:32] <ralnaemi> Where's the bot?
[01:33] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29974 10/trunk/ (lang/fr/language.php lib/prefs/auth.php): [FIX] Typos
[01:34] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r29975 10/trunk/lib/auth/ldap.php: [FIX] LDAP logs: missing space
[01:35] <chealer> ralnaemi: apparently missing since yesterday
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[03:26] <ralnaemi> Is there a way I can get tiki to display who submitted an item in the trackers?
[03:42] <chealer> ralnaemi: yes, you can add a field for that, as we have on Bugs & Wish list
[03:55] <ralnaemi> Any where I can read more about it?
[03:55] <ralnaemi> Tiki is friggin' awesome. I'm surprised I haven't heard about it before.
[03:56] <chealer> ralnaemi: in the documentation for tracker field types
[03:59] <ralnaemi> Is there a way to automate it? Or does the user manually have to type it?
[04:02] <ralnaemi> Ah. Ok so it is automated.
[04:24] <fabricius> help
[04:25] <fabricius> sry
[04:25] <fabricius> no help needed right now - awful tired and heading for bed now
[04:26] <fabricius> I wish a good night, morning and day to everybody
[04:26] <fabricius> bye
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[08:45] <wojtech> hi all
[08:45] <wojtech> I have a problem that I am trying to solve using a default category but this feature (assigning a default category to a group) seems not to be working
[08:45] <wojtech> what i am trying to achieve:
[08:46] <wojtech> i have normal users and priviledged ones in a seperate group
[08:49] <wojtech> i want to force priviledged users to chose a category for their entries (lets say "private" or "general") but I want normal users to always post as "general", at least if they do not indicate a seperate category
[08:49] <wojtech> does anyone have an idea how to get that working?
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[08:56] <luciash> hi
[08:57] <luciash> wojtech: what version
[08:57] <wojtech> 5.3
[08:57] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r29976 10/branches/6.x/templates/styles/coelesce/ (comment-body.tpl comment-header.tpl): +KIL+ Remove forked templates which made dislpay worse, not better
[08:58] <wojtech> sorry should have specified that
[08:58] <wojtech> what would help me is a way to set a default category per group
[08:58] <wojtech> but that settings seems to be now working
[08:59] <luciash> might be broken, i will test on mine
[09:00] <wojtech> *not
[09:00] <wojtech> "Default category assigned to uncategorized objects edited by a user with this default group:"
[09:01] <wojtech> I found this gem online: http://dev.tiki.org/Workspace#Short_term_notes
[09:01] <wojtech> quote: "Default category assigned to uncategorized objects edited by a user with this default group:" in tiki-admingroups.php should be reworded and transferred to perspectives
[09:01] <wojtech> but i have no idea why it would be reworded and to what
[09:02] <wojtech> i'll be in a meeting now but will check back later
[09:02] <wojtech> other then that tiki wiki is awesome
[09:02] <wojtech> (except for lack of direct pdf export maybe)
[09:03] <luciash> yeah, ok
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[09:03] <wojtech> maybe i am using it wrong
[09:04] <wojtech> non-priviledged users are in group "registred" for which i set the mentioned setting to category "general"
[09:05] <wojtech> i then tried to create a new entry as a non-registered user but it did not set the category on the entry
[09:06] <wojtech> btw what would also be acceptable is if new pages could "inherit" the category of the page they were created from (if they are created by clicking a non-existing wiki reference)
[09:06] <wojtech> but i recon this isn't possible since tiki doesn'T have a concept of parent-kid relationship for pages
[09:20] <luciash> wojtech: yeah, seems to be broken in 5.x
[09:20] <luciash> it doesnßt auto-check the category on the categories tab when creating new wiki page
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[09:21] <chibaguy> poloom
[09:21] <coaboa> hi all
[09:21] <luciash> polom chibaguy 
[09:21] <luciash> hi coaboa 
[09:21] <JoernOtt> lo all
[09:21] <luciash> :)
[09:21] <chibaguy> hi everybody
[09:23] <luciash> wojtech: ah, moment... i think it must be set to default group
[09:25] <luciash> wojtech: yeah, that does the trick
[09:26] <wojtech> what do you mean
[09:26] <wojtech> default group?
[09:26] <wojtech> i read that somewhere but i failed to understand what they meant
[09:26] <wojtech> default group for that user?
[09:29] <luciash> wojtech: you must choose default group for the user at tiki-assignuser.php?assign_user=indy
[09:29] <wojtech> for each user?
[09:29] <luciash> then if you create new wiki page and save, after save it is auto-assigned to the specified category for that default group of that user
[09:30] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r29977 10/branches/6.x/tiki-assignuser.php: 
[09:30] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: [FIX] group managment (assign user): assigning users into groups implies to have
[09:30] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: _either_ tiki_p_admin_users or tiki_p_subscribe_groups, not both. This was a
[09:30] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: mistake of r24932 where the perms check were converted to use accesslib
[09:30] <wojtech> ok i'll see if i can set a "default default group" for users
[09:31] <wojtech> shouldn't this by default be set to the highest predefined group he is in?
[09:31] <luciash> wojtech: i donßt know how many users you have
[09:31] <wojtech> i can set it manually but this doesn't seem to scale very well
[09:31] <luciash> wojtech: and if there is some batch possibility to set default group for users
[09:31] <luciash> but maybe there is possibility to set it for newly registered users
[09:32] <wojtech> i'll look around
[09:35] <luciash> chibaguy: do u know how to override links color in some tables of green blog theme ? there are contrast issues and i cannot find the class (surprisingly) using the inspect element
[09:36] <chibaguy> luciash, I was noticing that today also. The table background colors should also be some dark shade to match the theme.
[09:37] <chibaguy> I assumed it was .odd and .even.
[09:38] <luciash> i found some and overrided already, but cannot find the others
[09:38] <chibaguy> Ok, I'll check too.
[09:39] <chibaguy> Ah, the light shades are from design.css; greenblog.css doesn't override them.
[09:39] <chibaguy> It needs .odd and .even background properties.
[09:40] <chibaguy> and 'color' to contrast.
[09:44] <coaboa> Jörn: Hi, cool that you visited us at our "mini booth". Sorry that we did not have more time to talk but with a little child...
[09:46] <JoernOtt> hey, she is cute and funny
[09:47] <JoernOtt> And I like children
[09:47] <JoernOtt> besides, it was good to be out of the office for a day
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[09:51] <JoernOtt> I want to build a VMWare Appliance with a basic tiki
[09:51] <JoernOtt> Is there any preference for a linux distro
[09:52] <JoernOtt> Personally I use gentoo, but that might be a bit too special for someone who just wants to have an easy system
[09:53] <JoernOtt> I would go for openSuSE which I personally know for a long time, but I am open for suggestions
[10:00] <luciash> coaboa: what "mini booth" ? :)
[10:01] <luciash> JoernOtt: any flavor of Ubuntu is easy
[10:03] <coaboa> what about ubuntu?
[10:04] <JoernOtt> Ubuntu is a typical client system with a nice gui
[10:04] <JoernOtt> but that gui makes the VM quite large and memory hungry
[10:04] <coaboa> u can use ubuntu minimal with fluxbox ;-)
[10:05] <JoernOtt> but there is still a gui on it
[10:05] <coaboa> luciash: we exhibited at frankfurt bookfair with poiesipedia.com
[10:05] <luciash> coaboa: ah, very cool
[10:05] <JoernOtt> the whole X system doubles the size of a minimal linux
[10:05] <coaboa> ubuntu server has no gui just console
[10:06] <JoernOtt> good, I'll have a look at that one then
[10:06] <coaboa> or use DSL (damn smal linux) >= 50mb
[10:06] <coaboa>  sorry <= 50 MB
[10:07] <coaboa> its also debian and could grow with the requirements
[10:08] <JoernOtt> I think, I'll have a look at the ubuntu server first, ubuntu has a good name with many of then non-IT people :-)
[10:08] <coaboa> ;-) like me
[10:08] <JoernOtt> or the teachers at school
[10:09] <coaboa> a reason for me is its well documented and debian based and there is kubuntu which even lowers the fruits for ex windows user
[10:09] <JoernOtt> kde is way too slow nowadays
[10:10] <JoernOtt> At school, we went for xfce4 
[10:10] <coaboa> agree personaly removed it from my desktops
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[10:10] <JoernOtt> this ist usable even on 8 year old desktop pc
[10:10] <coaboa> xfce is cool and I like fluxbox too 
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[10:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3577 - - Tracker items list does not sort by created date  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3577
[10:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3578 - - Display Problems in utf-8 : part of text are displayed as latin1 into encoded page utf-8.  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3578
[10:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3579 - - Setting Permissions on image gallery - multiple error messages on screen  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3579
[10:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Missing Bulgarian languager in 3.8 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=13&comments_parentId=38987
[10:12] <coaboa> maybe you sould have a look at dsl which is able to run completly from RAM
[10:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Okay to upgrade directly to 5.3 from 5.0? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=38981
[10:12] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Report on which users viewed a certain Wiki page on a given date - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=38978
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[10:15] <chibaguy> re
[10:17] <JoernOtt> well, I want a VMWare appliance which they can shut down and still have access to the data afterwards :-)
[10:18] <JoernOtt> so, the idea is to give those people VMWare player and the appliance and they start it and get a server up and running
[10:18] <JoernOtt> then they can try the things they want to do in school
[10:19] <coaboa> thats the way I run my test and development machines ;-)
[10:20] <coaboa> afk bbl
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[10:23] <Tikiwiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3580 - - syntax error core.get_include_path.php in smarty ?  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3580
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[10:34] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29978 10/mods/trunk/themes/greenblog_tiki_5/styles/greenblog.css: [FIX] Default .odd/.even colors from design.css weren't overridden by greenblog.css, so color properties added. Thanks to Luciash for noticing.
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[11:31] <ricks99> hi all
[11:35] <coaboa> hi ricks99
[11:39] <ricks99> 'morning coaboa
[11:59] <ricks99> anyone mind if i re-apply some of the modules (last wiki pages, since last visit, etc.) to tw.o site?
[11:59] * ricks99 really misses them
[12:04] <chibaguy> ricks99, at least since last visit and shoutbox would be good to have back.
[12:05] <JoernOtt> +1 for that
[12:13] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29979 10/branches/6.x/lib/todolib.php: [MOD]tracker: also add the description of an item via todo_desc to be used in the notif mail
[12:13] <coaboa> yes its easier to keep up with the development with those modules
[12:14] <ricks99> and with y'alls approval, here we go....
[12:14] * ricks99 hopes he doesn't break anything
[12:21] <chibaguy> btw, I got an "access forbidden" when trying to post a reply in the forum today. I thought that was a thing of the past.
[12:26] <ricks99> modules back
[12:26] <ricks99> @chibaguy: i posed forum replys earlier -- no issue
[12:28] <chibaguy> I think it doesn't happen consistently.
[12:39] <chibaguy> I mean I've been replying there, too, and today's the first time it happened.
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[12:43] <chibaguy> hmm, white screen at t.o
[12:44] <ricks99> ? odd. i'm on right now
[12:44] <chibaguy> ah, ok. now I'm getting it.
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[12:58] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r29980 10/branches/6.x/_htaccess: [FIX]Tip added about a param needed in some servers for rewrite rules to work, even if not in subdirectories. Took many hours to fix that issue in one of those servers without this tip.
[13:01] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r29981 10/branches/proposals/5.x/_htaccess: 
[13:01] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: [FIX][bp/r29980]Tip added about a param needed in some servers for rewrite rules
[13:01] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: to work, even if not in subdirectories. Took many hours to fix that issue in one
[13:01] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: of those servers without this tip. The other similar tip previously in 6.x has
[13:01] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: been added/backported to 5.x. also
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[13:41] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r29982 10/mods/trunk/themes/greenblog_tiki_5/styles/greenblog.css: [FIX] Too-specific rule was missing a case (div.even on browse freetags).
[13:53] <coaboa> IE9b does not show png transparency :-( for my banners. 
[13:54] <ricks99> r u storing banner images in the tiki file gallery? if so, known issue with the tiki image libraries
[13:55] <coaboa> no from an openx server (but htere stored in a mysql db)
[13:55] <coaboa> *there
[13:56] <coaboa> and its (MS style ;-)) IE only 
[13:56] <JoernOtt> does it happen, when you try to access the url directly as well?
[13:56] <ricks99> check the file maybe or other iste? my ie 9 handlespng transparecy ok
[13:58] <coaboa> mybe some openx setting... ok look at it. Get used to *accept* those things as MS specific. maybe a little prejudictive ;-)
[13:59] <ricks99> always easy to pick on the biggest player. :-)
[14:00] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r29983 10/branches/6.x/lib/todolib.php: [FIX]todo: the wiki body is html - let the mail lib sorts out html and text
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[14:18] <chealer> polom
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[14:31] <coaboa> weird: when opening the png with ie9 directly transperency is shown correct... has to be a openx setting. thx for protecting IE ;-) btw my first impression of IE 9b is very poitive, now I start liking. 
[14:33] <coaboa> catch my girls now. bbl this evening
[14:36] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r29984 10/branches/6.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Blog titles and freetags were mixed up randomly depending on title length and number of tags. Now freetags are aways below the title
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[16:01] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29986 10/branches/6.x/templates/ (3 files): [ENH] Some layout modification + some more translated strings
[16:02] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29987 10/branches/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] more French translations
[16:04] <coaboa> it was an openx setting which inhibits the png transparency in IE browsers. first time I set up an openx server for tiki.
[16:04] <coaboa> thx for hinting ricks99
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[16:24] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29988 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl tiki-edit_languages.php): [ENH] use {pagination_links} on tiki-edit_languages.php
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[16:27] <ricks99> glad it worked coaboa
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[16:47] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29989 10/trunk/tiki-edit_languages.php: ops... fixing regression bug introduced on my last commit
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[16:51] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29990 10/trunk/tiki-edit_languages.php: avoid undefined index warning
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[17:08] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29991 10/branches/6.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] autocomplete: Hide selector when input is clicked on. Should make it less "sticky".
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[17:12] <cristianow> hi, I'd like to know can upload a picture and the syntax to display it on the page ?
[17:13] <ricks99> see docs "uploading images to the site"
[17:13] <ricks99> http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Images
[17:17] <cristianow> thanks man 
[17:20] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29992 10/branches/6.x/templates/modules/mod-search.tpl: [FIX] xhtml: Wrap form contents in a div (fieldset has a border etc)
[17:22] <ricks99> youre welcome
[17:24] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29993 10/branches/6.x/templates/modules/mod-search.tpl: [FIX] search module: Search page needs "highlight" not "find" as the main param.
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[17:41] <robertplummer> Hey goes, pagination.  How does the pagination links know what to change inside of page history?
[17:41] <robertplummer> guys, I mean, not goes.
[17:41] <robertplummer> what do you think jonnyb, chealer?
[17:42] <jonnyb> you pass the item, offset, page size etc via the smarty plugin params
[17:43] <jonnyb> see /lib/smarty_tiki/block.pagination_links.php
[17:45] <jonnyb> if your index param is called "offset" it does it all for you
[17:45] <jonnyb> only gets hairy when there are multiple ones on the same page
[17:46] <jonnyb> you just need to tell it the "cant", which is tiki-speak for count (no idea why though)
[17:47] <jonnyb> have a look at /templates/tiki-admin_calendars.tpl for a simple one
[17:47] <robertplummer> thank you sir!
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[17:56] <xavi> polom
[17:58] <jonnyb> hi xavi 
[17:58] <coaboa> hi xavi
[17:58] <xavi> hi jonny and coaboa
[17:58] <coaboa> xavi: found a desktop bg image? 
[17:58] <ricks99> polom xavi
[17:58] * xavi reading the backlog
[17:59] <xavi> hi ricks99
[17:59] <xavi> nope, not yet
[17:59] <xavi> I was to reply tonight to that email
[17:59] <ricks99> didnt want to use the background from twitter sites?
[17:59] <xavi> right now using an abstract picture that we took at home years ago
[18:00] <xavi> ricks99: I don't mind... I'd just prefer anybody with an image saying: here you have
[18:00] <robertplummer> polom
[18:00] <xavi> and if there are more than one, then people decide what you like the most
[18:00] <xavi> hi robertplummer
[18:01] <xavi> robertplummer: sorry for the delay to repy  the linkedin message from months ago
[18:01] <ricks99> i use http://www.sxc.hu/ all the time. some really nice images -- most free
[18:01] <xavi> I'm not that active ni linked in, and didn't notice that message for months
[18:01] <robertplummer> lol
[18:01] <robertplummer> I forgot about it actually.
[18:01] <robertplummer> Thanks!
[18:02] <robertplummer> My goals at that time were to sign as many clients as possible, and I thought I'd use linkedin.
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[18:02] <robertplummer> Turns out, I have the same clients, my work has increased, and I don't need any more... woohoo!
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[18:03] <robertplummer> Pues, muchas gracias me amigo!
[18:04] <xavi> no problem :-)
[18:12] <jonnyb> hey rodrigo_sampaio - you about?
[18:12] <rodrigo_sampaio> hi jonnyb
[18:13] <jonnyb> you been doing stuff in tiki-edit_languages.php in trunk - i was about to have a go at a fix in 6.x
[18:13] <jonnyb> is the stuff you're doing for 7+ only?
[18:13] <jonnyb> just wondering about merge conflicts
[18:14] <jonnyb> multilingual structures seems all messed up - but just trying to localise where the problem is at the mo
[18:14] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: yes, regarding tiki-edit_languages.php I'm mostly working on new stuff (so 7+)
[18:15] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: I don't think that there is a relation between multilingual structures and tiki-edit_languages.php
[18:15] <jonnyb> i'll do a compare and try and keep to unchanged bits
[18:15] <jonnyb> any idea why it doesn't seem to work?
[18:15] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: if you need any help let me know
[18:15] <jonnyb> yes please :) don't use translation usually
[18:16] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: no, because I don't know how multilingual structures works :)
[18:16] <jonnyb> it's all a bit bewildering
[18:16] <jonnyb> ok, will just blunder about until it starts making sense...
[18:16] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: if there is a merge conflict let me know and I will try to help
[18:17] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: today and in the following days I'm planning to make more changes to tiki-edit_languages.php
[18:17] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: the idea is to have a useful interface for i18n.tiki.org
[18:17] <jonnyb> by the way (for all) - do translated page names usually take the form "Original Page Name,xx" - or is that just on tiki sites?
[18:18] <jonnyb> (i just couldn't resist doing a one line jQuery to fill it in for you like that)
[18:18] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: I think it is just a convention for tiki sites
[18:18] <ricks99> @jonnyb: page name depends
[18:18] <jonnyb> but then it warns you that , is a bad char in a page name...
[18:19] <jonnyb> so would that be annoying? (if it magically filled that in for you if the input's empty)
[18:20] <cristianow> Hi ricks99
[18:20] <ricks99> yes. annoying. imho. usually we try to translate the actually page name
[18:20] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: maybe, because as far as I remember you can have two pages with totally different names and link them as the same content in two different languages
[18:20] <ricks99> hi cristianow
[18:20] <cristianow> i uploaded the picture but 
[18:20] <jonnyb> ok, won't commit then (must remember not to get distracted ;) )
[18:21] <jonnyb> thx
[18:22] <robertplummer> jonny, you talking to me?
[18:22] <robertplummer> about the languages.php
[18:22] <jonnyb> no, sorry robertplummer - was to ricks99 and rodrigo_sampaio 
[18:22] <cristianow> when I try to enter the gallery this message appears : 
[18:22] <cristianow> "The requested URL /wiki/dl3 was not found on this server."
[18:22] <robertplummer> oops
[18:22] <cristianow> can be I problem with my database?
[18:23] <ricks99> @cristianow dounds like u enabled the SEFURL option, but did not include the necessary .htaccess file
[18:23] <jonnyb> cristianow: did you rename your _htaccess to .htaccess? (or did the installer do it for you?)
[18:23] * ricks99 wow, does the installer do that automatically now?
[18:24] <jonnyb> it never does for me (on mac os) but i saw it work on a xamp one in NY :)
[18:24] <jonnyb> i think it's a file perms thing
[18:24] <ricks99> now if we can just get it to create the db
[18:29] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29994 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl tiki-edit_languages.php): cleanup: merge html for 'edit translations' and 'translate recorded' sections
[18:40] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r29995 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-edit_translation.tpl: [FIX] xhtml: Wrap form contents in a fieldset and correct <p> tags
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[18:54] <xavi> jonnyb, do you remember my former requesst of help about jquery syntax with trackers?
[18:55] <xavi> I mean, that email that I sent you, that you told me that you would reply in the list for everybody....
[18:55] <jonnyb> xavi: yes, it's still in my drafts folder ;)
[18:55] <xavi> some day
[18:55] <xavi> ok :-)
[18:56] <xavi> I will use that valuable information for work at uni , whenever it comes (no hurries - I'm delaying the parts that depend on it - a lot of things to do, so that I can delay some of them, and still be busy at work - mornings at uni I mean)
[18:57] <xavi> plus: jonnyb, I asked today to the sys admin in ourproject.org if they amde any change to the server in the last month, and the answer is no (not even restarting the server...)
[18:57] <cristianow> this was made automatically
[18:57] <cristianow> by the installer
[18:58] <xavi> cristianow: what's the url of your site?
[18:58] <xavi> I mean, are you using http://yourdomiani.org/wiki/tiki-index.php ?
[18:58] <xavi> or similar?
[18:59] <cristianow> yes
[18:59] <xavi> and can you try if the file with id 3 exists? 
[18:59] <xavi> using the long url?
[18:59] <xavi> I mean, go to the file gal, and click on that file
[19:00] <xavi> "exists"= it can be downloaded successfuly, etc.
[19:00] <cristianow> I use here this tikiwiki like a intranet 
[19:01] <cristianow> http://serverIP/wiki/tiki-index.php
[19:02] <jonnyb> cristianow: you probably need to add this to your .htaccess :- RewriteBase   "/wiki"
[19:02] <jonnyb> just a new line after RewriteEngine On
[19:02] <jonnyb> RewriteBase  "/wiki"
[19:04] <ricks99> @cristianow:  ../wiki/dl3 fails, right? try ../wiki/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3
[19:08] <xavi> jonnyb: yes, that was what I was going to suggest to cristianow :-) (did you see my commit to 6.x and proposals/5.x related to this?)
[19:11] <jonnyb> xavi: yes - but i haven't come across that case personally (on root)
[19:12] <jonnyb> does anybody know about translating structures? seems like a missing feature
[19:12] <ricks99> what do u mean?
[19:12] <ricks99> i have i18n structures
[19:13] <jonnyb> if you do translate on the top page of a structure stuff goes quite weird 
[19:13] <jonnyb> how do oyu create them?
[19:13] <xavi> jonnyb: I did today at http://uniwiki.ourproject.org
[19:13] <xavi> that's why I commited it
[19:13] <xavi> I saw that rule you added in c2c.op.o/tiki, and I tried with just "/", and it solved the problem
[19:13] <xavi> no idea, sorry. maybe ricks99 ?
[19:13] <ricks99> in the admin: wiki, threres a 'multilingal structure' option
[19:13] <jonnyb> think i have that on...
[19:14] <ricks99> what do u mean 'goes weird'
[19:14] * ricks99 not familiar with techno-jargon
[19:14] <jonnyb> :)
[19:14] <jonnyb> when i edit the fr version i end up editing the en one (for instance)
[19:15] <ricks99> r u logged in? if so, your user-specific lang will override
[19:15] <jonnyb> also, there doesn't seem to be a new structure in tiki-admin_structures.php
[19:15] <ricks99> in ur prefs, need to set both en and fr
[19:15] <ricks99> there won't be a new structure. it is a single structure, multilingual
[19:15] <jonnyb> even if no_bl=y?
[19:16] <jonnyb> oh, ok
[19:17] <ricks99> with only a single strucutre (as opposed to 1 stucture pre lang), your maintenance is greatly reduced.
[19:17] <ricks99> much easier to keep all structs "in sync"
[19:17] <jonnyb> indeed
[19:17] <jonnyb> you were cc'd on the mail from marc re this i think? (i just replied all)
[19:18] <ricks99> me?
[19:18] <jonnyb> yes ricks99 
[19:18] <ricks99> havent seen it yet...
[19:19] <ricks99> u can see a real-world i18n sturcture  on "smarties"
[19:19] <ricks99> (still 5.x)
[19:19] <jonnyb> ok, but looks like tomorrow - off out soon
[19:21] <jonnyb> ah, maybe the switch language module is getting in the way
[19:22] <jonnyb> "Ici c'est le structure" (it says now :) )
[19:22] <ricks99> ah y. personally, i dont see the need for switch lang module if you have multiling pages
[19:22] <ricks99> :)
[19:22] <jonnyb> true - the profile added it (for testing i guess)
[19:23] <jonnyb> interesting collision with wysiwyg...
[19:26] <jonnyb> ok, it does seem to work for me - thanks ricks99 (for listening)
[19:29] <ricks99> great.
[19:31] <jonnyb> ok, i'm off oot - more tomorrow
[19:35] <ricks99> cya
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[19:40] <robertplummer> hey jonnyb, I'm having some real trouble getting the pagination link to work.  How should I send it a variable?
[19:40] <robertplummer> jonnyb, does it accept an array?
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[19:47] <robertplummer> hey chealer, you there?
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[19:58] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r29996 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] better translation interface: more space to see the strings
[20:10] <xavi> c u all
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[20:38] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29997 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_categories.tpl: [FIX] Typo
[20:39] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29998 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl: [FIX] small layout modification for readability of examples
[20:39] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r29999 10/branches/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] More french translations
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[21:36] <Trebly> With the same data and version using 5.3 a server sends full OK utf8 pages while the other installation displays for the page (seen globally by the navigator as utf8) pieces of text utf-8 (menus and all from language.php) , while all text from others data are received converted "where ?" into latin1.
[21:36] <Trebly> So in this case the product is unusable (because accentuated chars of French appears as "?", and more the error exist into indexes and requests of pages)
[21:36] <Trebly> Do this problem is known ?, who is taking care of these aspects "hold utf-8", are into svn some answers ?
[21:37] <Trebly> !help
[21:37] <Tikiwiki|bot> You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
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[21:50] <Trebly> My question is detailed in Bug and wishes #3578
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[22:00] <sylvieg> Trebly: is your mysql set the same
[22:01] <marclaporte> polom
[22:02] <robertplummer> polom
[22:02] <robertplummer> Does anyone know how the xajax component works?
[22:03] <robertplummer> I'm using pagination for the sheets history, and I can't seem to get anything to post back when it fires.
[22:03] <robertplummer> I can echo stuff on the page, but outside of that it is like the smarty template isn't running.
[22:03] <Trebly> <silvieg>Yes absolutely : the data are the same and I have made the load of the databases from the same sql (manually converted for 5.0 when double-encode and before solved) further I export both and compared the files.
[22:03] * sylvieg never uses ajax - was a lot buggy for a long time...
[22:05] <robertplummer> O come on, someone has to know.
[22:06] <Trebly> <silvieg> the mysql are near the same on the good server, mine, and the other is OVH I have the details. All utf-8 
[22:07] <sylvieg> Trebly: try under musql show valriables like '%char%'; to see if same mysql setting
[22:09] <marclaporte> robertplummer : hehe
[22:09] <marclaporte> maybe jonny?
[22:09] <robertplummer> Why would smarty not fire on post back?
[22:10] <robertplummer> Yea, I asked him, but I think he is busy.
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[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30000 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki-db-pdo.php: 
[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: [FIX] PDO: uploading a file to a file gallery and recovering it breaks its
[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: non-ASCII characters when client_charset and character_set_database differ
[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: (often making applications report the file as corrupted), and operations on
[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: BLOBs in general
[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: partially reverts r27399. Ref: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=4CAAAFFD.6040103%40gmail.com
[22:23] <CIA-60> tikiwiki: This will probably have the opposite effect for BLOBs populated in Tiki 5; please report if this happens
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[22:37] <sylvieg> commit 30000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 a hard one
[22:38] <luci> woot, now that is something to celebrate ;)
[22:39] <sylvieg> and this comit will be controversial
[22:39] <sylvieg> I am already in the mood to rollback
[22:40] <luci> :)
[22:40] <chealer> hehehe :-)
[22:41] <sylvieg> chealer: we will have fun with 30000
[22:42] <chealer> sylvieg: that will set the bar for r40000 :-)
[22:42] <sylvieg> :-)
[22:51] <robertplummer> hey chealer, may I get some direction from you?
[22:51] <robertplummer> I'm assuming you know how pagination is built, correct?
[22:51] <robertplummer> I asked this a bit ago, not sure if you saw it.
[22:52] <chealer> robertplummer: yes, I saw your messages, I guess you didn't get my reply but I never built something paginated
[22:52] <robertplummer> o
[22:52] <robertplummer> thanks
[22:52] <chealer> robertplummer: I may have red the code once but I'm far from an expert
[22:52] * chealer goes back to dinner preparation
[22:53] <chealer> I sent a message to tikiwiki-cvs about my latest commit (saying little more than the message)
[22:53] <sylvieg> robertplummer: in pagination ajax is like pagination without you must correctly set auto_args or something like this
[22:54] <robertplummer> you mean $auto_query_args?
[22:54] <sylvieg> $auto_query_args must have the list of var that is necessary to build the url
[22:55] <sylvieg> otherwise ajax or not ajax shoukld work the same
[22:55] <robertplummer> You are the man!
[22:55] <sylvieg> try without ajox
[22:56] <robertplummer> Nope, it didn't work.
[22:56] <sylvieg> so you probably missed up with the params
[22:56] <sylvieg> what is your {pagination line?
[22:57] <sylvieg> it is easy to miss up with a one page pagination
[22:57] <robertplummer> {pagination_links cant=$ver_cant itemname="{tr}Sheet{/tr}" offset_arg="idx_0" offset="`$sheetIndexes[0]`" show_numbers=n}{/pagination_links}
[22:58] <sylvieg> //checking some params are missing
[22:58] <robertplummer> The url: http://localhost/tikiwiki/6.x/tiki-history_sheets.php?sheetId=1&idx_0=0&idx_1=4&
[22:58] <robertplummer> The postback url: http://localhost/tikiwiki/6.x/tiki-history_sheets.php?sheetId=1&&idx_1=4&idx_0=1
[22:58] <robertplummer> as far as I can tell, everything is there.
[22:59] <sylvieg> you ned step
[22:59] <robertplummer> step=1?
[22:59] <robertplummer> step?
[22:59] <robertplummer> step=true?
[22:59] <robertplummer> step=y?
[22:59] <sylvieg> ste is the number of items for a step
[23:00] <robertplummer> I thought cant was that.
[23:00] <sylvieg> cant is the toatl number
[23:00] <sylvieg> total
[23:01] <robertplummer> so step would be 1?
[23:01] <sylvieg> how many history per view?
[23:01] <sylvieg> usually it is maxRecords
[23:01] <sylvieg> $prefs.maxRecords
[23:01] <robertplummer> right now it is unlimited
[23:02] <sylvieg> ??? why do you need a pagination if it is unlimited?
[23:02] <robertplummer> I'm paging through the history items at the top of the history.
[23:03] <robertplummer> I'm not paging through all the records though in the list view, they are all listed out.
[23:03] <robertplummer> Is that what you meant?
[23:04] <sylvieg> so {pagination is not appropriate????
[23:04] <sylvieg> it is like the nmext item
[23:04] <robertplummer> No it is right.
[23:04] <sylvieg> pagination does not work for this it works for an url offsetxxx= 
[23:04] <robertplummer> right
[23:04] <robertplummer> Ok, I think I found the problem,
[23:05] <robertplummer> POST isn't sending the tpl name.
[23:05] <robertplummer> tiki-pagehistory.tpl
[23:05] <robertplummer> That works great.
[23:05] <sylvieg> if you are able to have what you want in an url like offsetxxx=sss&maxxxx=y
[23:06] <robertplummer> ok
[23:06] <robertplummer> Ok, how is xajax being fed the tpl name?
[23:07] <robertplummer> For instance, tiki-pagehistory.php send the following back to xajax: xjxargs[]	Stiki-pagehistory.tpl xjxargs[]	Stiki-center xjxargs[]	N50 xjxargs[]	Sadmin xjxfun	loadComponent xjxr	1287007988634
[23:07] <robertplummer> The first part: xjxargs[] Stiki-pagehistory.tpl, how is it being set?
[23:10] <Trebly> <silvieg> Not yet successful to get information from mysql of OVH parameters,
[23:10] <Trebly>  I could not get data from information_schema because I had never used and this needs to have a yet made php script, this while phpmyadmin don't gives detailed informations as for my server. 
[23:10] <Trebly> As the lonely informations asked at the creation of a database is the encode and defined utf-8 and sort index code, in my opinion I could not change anything to make these installation conformed to tiki needs.
[23:10] <Trebly> So my question is which mysql server parameter should be defined for the use with 5.3  ? Where are they defined ? How to take in account mysql mys-defined parameters as CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT (for example) ?
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[23:55] <robertplummer> @sylvieg, I've made more progress.  There is a js variable array on every page called "arguments", the first value is set to the template on pages.  What is setting that value?