[00:00] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [00:10] *** Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki [00:11] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [00:38] *** robertplummer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [00:41] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [00:48] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [01:04] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [01:05] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [01:05] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r30002 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Changes for sheet to support pagination in history. Still needs a bit of debug, but links are there. [01:09] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [01:17] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30003 10/trunk/ (33 files in 16 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 29950 to 30002 [01:39] *** Trebly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:49] *** goj|ghost has joined #tikiwiki [01:50] *** goj|afk has joined #tikiwiki [01:53] *** goj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:53] *** goj|afk is now known as goj [01:54] *** goj|ghost has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:28] *** Caarrie|sleeping has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [03:21] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: See you later! http://marclaporte.com) [06:27] *** cristianow has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [06:54] *** chris345 has joined #tikiwiki [06:54] Hi there! We're interested in using TikiWiki, but we have a couple of questions [06:54] The most pressing one is, can we set who accesses and modifies particular articles? [06:55] for instance, we might want to have an internal memo stored in tikiwiki without the public able to see it [06:55] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [07:02] *** chris345 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [07:23] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [07:24] good morning [07:56] *** goj has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [07:56] *** uSlacker has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:01] *** JoernOtt has joined #tikiwiki [08:07] *** mose has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:07] *** Kissaki has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:07] *** redflo has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:07] *** |changi has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:07] *** Jyhem has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:07] *** Sp4rKy has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:07] *** Tikiwiki|bot has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:08] *** niclone has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:21] *** JoernOtt has quit IRC () [08:44] *** Trebly has joined #tikiwiki [08:49] *** JoernOtt has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** Kissaki has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** Jyhem has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** mose has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** niclone has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** |changi has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** Sp4rKy has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** Tikiwiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** luci has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** goj has joined #tikiwiki [09:01] *** uSlacker has joined #tikiwiki [09:12] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [09:12] polom [09:13] ola xavi [09:13] JoernOtt: I saw your comments yesterday... [09:13] hi JoernOtt [09:13] .. comments/questions about making a VM Ware applicance with Tiki, etc. [09:13] yes [09:13] I had the same interested years ago, and moved to making an .iso [09:14] which can be used as VM Ware thing, and Virtual Box, and/or others [09:14] as well as being usable as LiveCD [09:14] but what happens with the data/configuration stuff? [09:14] and convertible (easily) in LiveUSB [09:14] for that, LiveUSB should be the way to go, imho [09:15] even if that TikiLiveCD, built from Slax (in purpose, after searching and trying with MANY distros), you can use some net disk drive offered by Slax author [09:15] afaik [09:15] I haven't used that net drive, but it's there on the desktop [09:15] well, I don't know slax very well [09:16] (never heard of it befdore the tiki cd) [09:16] for my needs, I used to have TikiLiveUSB for people attending some course I taught on Tiki administration years ago [09:16] SLax is a slackware modified distro [09:16] to keep it small, with KDE 3.x, easily i18n and l10n [09:17] Most of the target audience has vmware player, but getting an USB stick working or even booting from USB in VMWare is a PITA [09:17] ^much easier to have in other langs differnt than english, than with DSL, DSL-N, or other small distros (Puppy Linux is getting closer) [09:18] for VM Ware, you could use the ISO file [09:18] At my old school we have a minimal gentoo with xfce4 working on a broad range of hardware [09:18] the question with the VMWare stuff is where will the data be saved [09:18] :-) xfce: most common distros with xfce (like xubuntu or similar) are heavier than Slax with KDE 3.x, imho [09:18] and I've tried a few [09:19] in old ocmputers [09:19] and very old ocmputers [09:19] safest option, probabaly: in some net disk (dropbox, the one provided by SLax, or others) [09:19] well, most computers at school qualify as very old ;-) and we got rid of SuSE/KDE because of the length of the boot process [09:20] :-) [09:20] give our TikiLiveCD a go :-) [09:20] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [09:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [09:20] polom [09:20] I will, however I don't like NetDisks [09:20] currently based on Slax 0.6.x, but previous LiveCD's, were based on Slax 0.5.x, and I tried those on very old computers, and were impressive [09:21] hi chibaguy [09:21] Apart from having difficulties with slow internet connections and firewalls, I don't like storing data out of my control [09:21] that Slax distro, also has the option (in theory) to save changes in a file on disk, or on a usb key [09:21] that sounds very good [09:22] This weekend I will most definitely try it out [09:22] that save changes on file: was buggy after the second session, afaik. (with Slax 0.5). With Slax 0.6.x I haven't tried [09:22] ok [09:22] you know: http://tiki.org/TikiLiveCD [09:22] hehe [09:22] the last version has very little documentation [09:22] OFC [09:22] sorry for that [09:23] well, maybe I'll add something to the doc then in the time saved for setting up a VM [09:23] but you can have a look at similar documentation (for the TikiLiveCD 0.5.x version) [09:23] ok, nice :-) [09:24] hi xavi [09:24] * xavi back to using trackers for work at uni [09:25] * JoernOtt back to testing the postgres cluster [09:25] btw, if anybody is successful migrating a jq carousel frmo 5.x to 6.x, please tell me what did you do [09:26] besides the magic in thems.t.o, that it seems to work with no change (magic, since the syntax is still using $jq(...), etc) [09:26] and I was not that lucky in one test I did on another server [09:27] * xavi missing some jquery masters in this channel [09:28] * xavi missing them also for "trackers & jquery" magic [09:29] I am only a black magician, good at destroying things :-) [09:29] and still learning jquery [09:32] hi jörn and xavi [09:32] hi chibaguy [09:32] JoernOtt: :-). hi coaboa [09:32] moin Carsten [09:33] me still waits for 30 tables à 100k lines in the test cluster [09:33] I hate the test scenarios I designed myself [09:36] :-) [09:36] you know why! [09:48] re :) [09:51] wb [09:51] thanks, hi everybody [09:56] hi luci [09:56] hi coaboa and everybody [10:08] chibaguy and Jyhem : hi gary (and jean-marc), could you please do these experiments with fixedwidth in layout/fixed_width.css or layout/layout.css instead of lite/lite.css next time ? thank you :-/ [10:12] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [10:14] Polom! [10:14] how r u everybody? [10:15] hi fabricius [10:17] my good morning question: [10:17] let´s say I have two tiki-installations [10:17] I have a tracker in one installation and want to show that tracker in the other installation [10:17] is that possible? if yes: how and where I find the appropriate doc, respectively what is the name of the appropriate function/plugin? [10:17] luci, sorry about that. I guess it seemed natural to make the change in lite.css rather than add code to another file to override it. Everyone thinks of lite.css being just one file in Tiki rather than having a standalone existence, probably. [10:23] chibaguy: now (besides your commit) i notice also nylothßs r29844 and the discussion about the change... i am not sure it was good idea to change lite.css fundamentally in the freeze mode, so i would rather see it as overrides in layout.css, than modifications to lite.css [10:27] The timing was due to some problems apparently due to body {display:table} so it was considered a fix, and so ok during the freeze, as I understand it. [10:27] i am not able to react to the thread now... no SMTP for my sfATground account here in swiss [10:28] yep, i still read the messages, sorry i did not notice it earlier as on travels [10:28] yes, it's hard to keep up when traveling, etc. [10:29] i wonder, if the regression bug with layout on doc.t.o and tv.t.o is related to this [10:30] Which doc.t.o bug do you mean? I'm aware of the background image being missing, for one. [10:30] *** coaboa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:31] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [10:31] chibaguy: it is not missing [10:31] back [10:32] chibaguy: it only looks a like [10:32] fabricius: check featured links (feature), or PluginIframe [10:32] wb xavi [10:32] fabricius: or PluginSNARF [10:32] right, sorry, that's what I meant. [10:32] hi luci [10:32] xavi: thx a lot, I´ll do that [10:32] chibaguy: also notice the "post-it" note [10:33] fabricius: but they are not perfect solutions, since you will probably get the header and side columns from the site2 inside site1 [10:33] yeah, hard to not notice that. ;-) [10:33] chibaguy: it is aligned on the edge of the fixedwidth container instead of the body as on dev.t.o as it should [10:33] ah [10:33] unless you use PluginIFRAME in site1, fetching the tiki-index_p.php version of your wiki page where you show your tracker data, etc. [10:33] chibaguy: so it is not only "the header background image is missing" [10:34] xavi: I want exactly to prevent this! -> just include the textarea of the other Tiki site [10:34] fabricius: notice that I wrote tiki-index_p.php and not tiki-index.php [10:34] xavi: noticed, thx [10:34] fabricius: and good luck (you can always hire some coder to improve what you get) [10:35] bbl [10:35] chibaguy: i have added the issue to http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki6#Regression_bugs [10:36] fabricius: with snarf, you can use some regex [10:37] xavi: I know, but privately I have no money at all by now and in our organisation we work all voluntarily => I will brake it down in the next weeks and if there still are some issues left, I hope my organisation will have some amount of money left, to support a coder for the certain issues [10:37] JoernOtt: sorry for silly question, but what is regex? heard this word before, but have no clus ;-) [10:38] if you have control over both sides, you can sneak in some invisible markers (like comments or a group of  ) [10:38] I indeed have control over both sites [10:38] Regular Expressions are a very powerful (but also complex) way of filtering/replacing rules [10:38] ok [10:39] and with those regexes it would be possible, to include certain content, like trackers from one site to thze other? [10:39] for a start, look at http://doc.tiki.org/PluginSnarf&structure=Documentation [10:39] also use http://de2.php.net/manual/de/function.preg-replace.php [10:40] ok [10:40] and for learning regex: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ [10:40] * JoernOtt is still at the very beginning of his journey through the jungle of regex [10:41] * fabricius is just at the beginning of experiencing the Tiki Way of Live [10:42] *** JoernOtt is now known as Joern|f00d [10:56] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [11:00] hi all :-) [11:01] heya rick [11:01] hey, doc.t.o seems ok now (bg image). [11:01] hi ricks99 [11:02] tv.tiki.org still not getting bg image tho. [11:02] hi luci (new handle?) & chibaguy [11:04] chibaguy: doc.t.o seems to be cutoff on sides still for me [11:04] hi ricks99 [11:04] luci: really? Oh, I just refreshed and now it's cut off again. weird. [11:05] ricks99: abroad again [11:05] It was ok when I first viewed it. [11:05] chibaguy: heh, weird [11:05] hiya coaboa [11:05] chibaguy: reloaded 5 times now, still the same [11:06] logged off there, btw [11:06] yes, usually it's bad for me. I was really surprised to see it with the bg image. [11:07] devilish things [11:09] branch 6 is ok for me, regarding fixed-width and fivealive. It seems the setup at doc.t.o is wrong somehow. [11:11] oops. spoke too soon. I just changed fivealive theme options and none of them show the page background image. : - 0 [11:11] But they did on first page load, on the first view of no theme option. [11:16] back [11:16] just finished reading the thread about "Tiki and WebDAV" in t.o forums.... Phew! [11:16] lots of activity there! [11:17] & just sent email to dev list re task-based docs [11:17] thanks for your contributions to that thread, chibaguy, Joern|f00d, etc [11:26] mmmm, http://demo.tikiwiki.org/5x doesn't exist anymore !!!? [11:26] only demo.t.o/6.x [11:26] it seems [11:43] *** luci has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [11:43] ah, I just remembered why fivealive's bg images are cut off. it's a fixed-width special case. [11:44] I don't know why it broke exactly, but it needed an !important to fix it. [11:45] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30004 10/branches/6.x/styles/fivealive.css: [FIX] Page background images weren't going full-width (in this theme, div#fixedwidth is full-width to allow wide header and footer background images; divs #header-top, #tiki-top .wrapper, and #middle have width: 990px). [11:47] I guess this means you can't currentlly have a really full-width fivealive layout, unless overrides are written for the site. [11:48] ah, actually there's a way: body.fixed_width #header-top {width: 990px}, etc. if we want this theme to behave just like the others. [11:50] *** luci has joined #tikiwiki [11:51] chibaguy: hmm, you mean it is good or bad ? [11:54] I mean fivealive was designed to be fixed width, so no option was figured out to let the contents go full width, originally, but this could be added easily. [11:54] a few changes in fivealive.css. [11:56] about the problem we see at doc.tw.o, I don't know why things changed. I fixed it by adding !important to #fixedwidth {width: 100%}. [12:03] eek, didn't we try avoid !important when not needed for browser specific hacks ? [12:03] :) [12:04] i have seen several importants by Jyhem too, i do not get exactly yet why they are needed but i will hopefully understand it soon [12:06] +10000 to avoid !important [12:07] I need to check the css changes regarding fixedwidth, but it seems an !important is needed to override some recent change. [12:07] yeh it is the problem when you begin to put one ... you need to put more... [12:10] Now I see that fixed_width.css has #fixedwidth {width: 990px !important}. I don't see why that is necessary. [12:10] I'll do a little testing. [12:12] thank you ! [12:15] i am tempted to move the fixedwidth part from lite.css to fixed_width.css [12:15] @luci: u don't like html emails: ;-) [12:16] ricks99: i like them when done properly ;) [12:16] lol. looks fine in my ms-exchange :-) [12:17] fwiw, i thought tha all mail sent to the dev list was converted to plain text. didnt realize that the mail list actually could send as html [12:17] Hmm, fixed_width.css's 990px width won't dominate over lite.css's 100% width unless !important is added, in Opera. I wonder why. [12:17] luci, did you give lite.css some special superpowers? ;-) [12:18] then again, why does lite.css need to specify #fixed_width? [12:18] depends when is fixed_width.css loaded (before or after ?) and if in lite.css is any !important for it (?) [12:19] that is my question... you or nyloth added it ? [12:19] seems nyloth, right ? [12:19] * chibaguy looks for a place to hide.... [12:19] hahahah :D [12:20] i don't have the revision commit mail open right now luckily ;) [12:21] actually the main thing about that change was to put the display:tably property on #fixed_width instead of body. [12:21] ok, makes sense [12:22] but it wasn't necessary to also specify the width there, I think. [12:22] bud #fixedwidth is Tiki themes layout specific, right ? [12:22] Yes. [12:22] s/bud/butú [12:22] *but [12:22] goddamnit :D [12:22] heh, fingers too slow for brain. [12:23] *** MacLeod has joined #tikiwiki [12:23] as long as I've got the files open, I'll move the fixedwidth stuff from lite to layout. [12:24] 7NICK jOERNoTT [12:24] *** Joern|f00d is now known as JoernOtt [12:24] grrr @capslock [12:26] chibaguy: my suggestion is 1) i will add u as developer on the *lite CSS project and we fix (backport) there *or* 2) we rollback and keep lite.css "lite" and override all Tiki specific necessities (including display: block for body) in layout.css [12:27] chibaguy: ok, +1 for your suggestion above [12:28] Q: there's no collision avoidance for 2 usres editing an article, like we have for wiki pages? [12:28] *** Andurino has joined #tikiwiki [12:28] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r30005 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Changed the name of the history template, it was causing xajax to fail. [12:28] chibaguy: will you move the display: block for body to layout.css too ? [12:28] is it simply last to save, wins? [12:28] ricks99: probably so [12:29] ricks99: articles still need whole lotta love [12:29] and i gess same with trackers, forum posts, everything [12:29] yep, it is only for wiki asfaik [12:29] :-) [12:29] tx [12:30] rehi [12:31] luci, probably lite.css shouldn't have Tiki-specific rules, thinking about these recent changes. Longer-term, I think it would be good to either fork it or move the rules in lite.css into layout.css and have one fewer stylesheet. [12:31] I want to redirect the HomePage on www.workspace.vafk.org to perspective one respectively to the Home of perspective 1, but I do not get there [12:32] {REDIRECT(url=http://workspace.vafk.org/tiki-switch_perspective.php?perspective=1) /} does not work [12:32] any idea? [12:32] having the font and heading sizes in lite.css has always bothered me a bit, thinking about lite.css as a Tiki file alongside the other css files. [12:33] chibaguy: probably yes... lite.css didn't need any changes for years, so probably it is not worth of it to keep it as external lib... i still wonder lite.css is so future proof without touching it for such many years [12:33] amazing to myself [12:34] fabricius: try with "" around the url param [12:34] (you have a = in the param vaclue) [12:35] s/such/so/ [12:35] {REDIRECT("url"=...) ... or {REDIRECT(url="...") ... ? [12:35] url="..." [12:35] thx [12:35] luci: that's true. [12:36] My tests with moving rules to other files so far isn't getting good results but I'll keep trying. [12:39] ah, ok, i forgot that display:table causes a div to shrinkwrap to its content size. [12:39] sylvieg: argggl got the fault: I forgot to specify the HomePage for Perspective One different to default => so the redirect did work, but did point to itself [12:54] chibaguy: btw, i noticed in green blog theme that if you put the css menu on the right column, the expanded submenu gets cutt-off (maybe overflow hidden issue ?) too [12:55] luci, do you mean it goes off the right margin? [12:55] it goes hidden "behind" the right column edge [12:57] That's true for all themes, afaik. [12:58] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30006 10/branches/6.x/styles/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Alternative method to implement fixed-width without !important on widths, and moving rules so lite.css doesn't have Tiki-specific code. Please test again for Javascript and textarea errors. [12:58] suckerfish/superfish doesn't know about right margin. [12:59] chibaguy: sorry, i mean when you have fixedwidth, not the right margin of browser viewport [12:59] chibaguy: thanks for the commit :) [12:59] sure, I hope it works ok. [13:00] ah, I didn't try a cssmenu in the right column in fixedwidth, I think. [13:03] Some div must have overflow:hidden. seems to be the same in all themes (i tried about 5) [13:03] aye [13:06] #col2 has overflow:visible explicitly set. maybe #col3 needs that. [13:06] or maybe just the module [13:07] it's the column. I just tried. [13:07] ??? [13:07] ok [13:08] #col3 { overflow: visible;} [13:10] apparently set per-theme. [13:10] (for #col2) [13:12] maybe should be in cssmenus.css [13:25] ricks99: I just noted that you fixed some stuff in the page_contribution form. You put the label around the input and the description text. Is that preferred over or ? [13:26] self labled fields are fully acceptable and compliant. plus less code. [13:28] I know that it is compliant, I am just trying to learn/improve my style, thats why I ask if is preferred over [13:28] and with less code, you mean leaving out the "for" tag [13:28] 6 of one, half-dozen of the either. purely style preferece. [13:28] *** Sp4rKy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [13:29] *** Andurino has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [13:29] it makes for less code to maintain. however, the html is less readable/documented without explicity using the id for each field [13:30] *** Sp4rKy has joined #tikiwiki [13:30] also, you cant self label form fields that are split among table columns [13:33] thx [13:33] btw, I am looking forward reading "Essentials" online and as a book [13:34] tx. hopefully "in the stores for christmas" :-) [13:35] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30007 10/mods/trunk/themes/smooth_tiki_5/ (11 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Smooth theme for Tiki 5 [13:37] Recently I wanted to style a label with but the situation was complicated by input being contained in it, so this would be one reason to not nest them. [13:37] But maybe only in such a specific case. [13:38] true. for syle-specific issues, you would not want to nest them [13:39] see, now I learned something new today and the day is not completely wasted un the frustrating cluster-testing :-) [13:39] :-) [13:45] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30008 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: remove stray secdb file [13:46] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30009 10/branches/proposals/5.x/db/tiki-secdb_5.1_mysql.sql: remove stray secdb file [13:47] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r30010 10/branches/proposals/3.x/db/tiki-secdb_3.2_mysql.sql: remove stray secdb file [13:48] chibaguy: you could do label {color: red} label input {color: black} [13:48] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30011 10/branches/6.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Correction of where display:table is placed (from body to #fixedwidth). Please test for Javascript and textarea errors. [13:48] chibaguy: or what was the difficulty ? [13:50] luci, do you mean the errors? [13:52] i mean the difficulty to style nested input in label [13:54] oh, I wanted to make the label text not display, iirc. [13:55] hehe, making the input invisible as well then [13:57] yes [14:00] aaah, yep, that is difficult then :) [14:00] impossible i would say [14:01] unless u had [14:02] *** Andurino has joined #tikiwiki [14:03] i agree, not perfect,but its a nice shorcut i use all the time [14:18] yep, i like the "shortcut" too :) [14:23] *** MacLeod has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:43] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30012 10/trunk/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_listpages.php): [NEW]LISTPAGES: possibility to select pages in a AND of categories or a OR of categories [14:47] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Find new themes for Tiki at http://themes.tikiwiki.org.) [15:03] *** xavi has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [15:24] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30013 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl tiki-edit_languages.php): [15:24] tikiwiki: [ENH] use find.tpl template for searches on tiki-edit_languages.php [15:24] tikiwiki: [ENH] use can set number of translations to show on tiki-edit_languages.php [15:43] beta 1 is out but my alpha Tiki 6 still says latest newest is alpha [15:57] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:58] *** Andurino has quit IRC (Quit: Andurino) [16:08] *** redflo has left [16:13] polom [16:14] *** luci has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:15] tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r30014 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_include_features.tpl: [FIX] Small layout fix for consistency. [16:19] hi [16:39] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [16:50] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30015 10/trunk/tiki-browse_categories.php: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding [16:50] New Forum Posts: error cuando se guarda pagina - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=39019 [16:58] *** chealer has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:58] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [16:58] *** chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:58] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [17:02] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [17:03] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:07] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [17:18] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [17:26] *** JoernOtt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:35] *** chealer_ has joined #tikiwiki [17:36] *** Trebly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:39] *** chealer_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [18:10] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [18:31] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [18:32] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [18:37] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [18:40] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [18:42] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [18:44] polom all [18:44] hiya jonnyb [18:44] anyone about who knows about translation (and structures again)? [18:44] ah, just the man! :) [18:45] * jonnyb expects ricks99 to dive for cover [18:45] ZZZZzzzzz..... [18:45] the bug Marc's got me on is why the translate dropdown doesn't work for structures like it does for pages [18:46] 5 or 6 ? [18:46] 6 [18:46] but i think it's the same issue since 3.x apparently [18:46] works perfectly in 5. [18:47] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [18:47] even without the switch lang module on it seems broken here [18:47] let me check my dataset on 6. one sec... [18:47] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:48] and here [18:48] http://demo.tiki.org/6x/Wiki+engine [18:49] definately working on smarties (with no swithc-lang module) [18:50] hmm, sounds like a regression then... [18:50] whats the issue ur seeing? seems ok with my smarties 6 test site [18:51] it sticks on english (there is a spanish version there) [18:51] need to remove the swith lang module [18:52] done [18:53] selecting espanol sends you to no_bl=y&page=motor+de+wiki [18:53] but it actually shows you the english page again [18:53] hm.. .can u pm me an admin login [18:54] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [18:54] <|changi> polom [18:54] *** |changi is now known as changi [18:54] hi changi [18:55] @jonnyb: u dont have a base lang assigned to the default (eng) page yet [18:55] the schedule was saying we should have done beta 2 a couple of days ago - i changed it for tomorrow (but there are a few bad things i should fix before we do b2) [18:55] nvr mind [18:55] ah (i didn't set it up - will recheck) [18:55] duh [18:56] jonnyb: i can do it tomorrow [18:56] seems to be en (and there's fr and es) [18:56] changi: i'll try and fix these nasties but might not get them all done for tomorrow [18:56] so it might have to slip a little more [18:57] jonnyb: no prob, someone else can do it [18:57] it's not so difficult :) [18:57] what is Language inclusion threshold: [18:57] ricks99: no idea - where? [18:57] admin i18n [18:59] hmmm... 7 [18:59] it's all Greek to me :) [19:00] Huh? thought it was supposed to be spanish? [19:00] lol [19:00] nice [19:01] ok. def. broken in 6. just verified it on my site [19:01] but 5 works fine [19:02] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:02] hm.. i take that back [19:02] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30016 10/trunk/ (lib/language/Language.php templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl): [ENH] display the author of a translation on tiki-edit_languages.php [19:02] now workinging on my tiki6 [19:03] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [19:04] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:04] ricks99: i have some code fixes locally that seems to be partially working, it's odd as it really looks like it never worked fully [19:05] dont know.... smarties is tiki5 and i can switch tanslations no issue. [19:05] i have upgraded to tiki6 for testing and it doesnt always switch :( [19:06] hmmm, i'll check the 5.x code [19:06] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [19:07] maybe caching something somewhere? [19:08] it looks to me like there's no way it can find the translated structure if it's not the user's "main" language (like no_bl=y) [19:09] its not the structure that is translated -- only pages within the structure [19:09] maybe you have your i18n prefs set up differently [19:09] i can duplicate the issue on tiki6 [19:10] indeed - but if you give it a french page in the struct it seems not to find the structure [19:10] duplicate it working? [19:11] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:11] its failing for me even for pages NOT in a struture [19:11] ik [19:12] it really doesn't look like the code has changed around these bits [19:12] chk pm [19:19] * changi going crazy, webdav doesn't work for me [19:19] does anyone get webdav to work on tiki6 ? [19:21] not recently changi [19:21] tested it on trunk a while back and it was ok [19:22] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get more help: Tiki for Smarties http://twbasics.keycontent.org and Tiki Essentials http://twessentials.keycontent.org) [19:22] for me, it does not work since the begining. [19:22] :( [19:22] i try on local [19:23] with cadaver or nautilus and i always get a 401 [19:25] does the user admin have the right to use webdav ? [19:31] should do [19:32] trying on demo.t.o [19:32] it asked for log in but now is just spinning... [19:32] aha! joy :) [19:33] slow, but mounted the file gals eventually [19:34] http://demo.tikiwiki.org/6x/tiki-webdav.php seems to work ok [19:35] although the little png i just uploaded seems to have 0 bytes [19:35] do you have a user ? [19:36] I create one, but it is disabled [19:36] admin [19:36] changi: see pm [19:44] connection is ok, put data are unusable, no , [19:44] ? [19:44] same for me i think [19:45] do we need to active htaccess to get webdav to work ? [19:45] don't think so [19:46] ok fresh install of tiki6, just activate webdav on my localhost, and damned, it does not work [19:47] i have a server where i've never got it to work, i think it's a bit fragile [19:47] php version ? [19:47] maybe ? [19:48] i use a 5.3 from my ubuntu [19:48] more likely to be something in apache i think [19:48] the php doesn't do much afaik (there's not much of it anyway) [19:51] but the doc does not speak about a specific configuration [19:52] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [19:53] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [19:55] really need to sleep, will have a look tomorrow, i really need it for the CoE [19:55] ok - bibi [19:55] jonnyb: just send me a pm if you want me to do the beta2 [19:56] you around at the weekend? [19:56] only on sunday afternoon [19:56] rehi [19:56] ok, i'll see how i go tomorrow [19:56] hi fabricius [19:57] had my first online workshop tonight [19:57] was nice? [19:57] did show a new user some basics [19:57] yes I like that [19:57] years ago I did work in adults education [19:58] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [19:58] so I used the tiki-conference room and showed the guy how to set up menus and user modules and such [19:59] sounds good [19:59] if the room is free, I´ll take it aswell to show the people of my organisation how things work [20:00] really cool with that desktopsharing [20:00] the bbb "room" you mean? [20:00] yes [20:00] did the audio work ok for you? seemed broken the other day i tried [20:01] actually I gave up using audio in the bbb a while ago [20:01] usually I use skype or telefone-flat [20:01] no problem with national landline calls [20:02] shame - in NY it worked well for a while [20:02] then went bad eventually (and we reverted to skype) [20:02] ah btw - in our organisation we use a telefone-conference with international landline numbers [20:02] maybe we could try that in berlin [20:03] you can call it even fro skype [20:03] it is called talkyoo [20:15] yes, same problem than in barcelona [20:15] had time to follow the Fest, but had to give up finally, cause I didn´t understand a word [20:16] was hard enough with skype aswell [20:16] even in new york [20:18] it's gradually getting (slowly) better though, i think [20:45] should be [20:46] did you know, that the design is very similar to the adobe conference room? [20:49] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30017 10/branches/6.x/lib/multilingual/multilinguallib.php: [FIX] multilingual: Respect pref feature_detect_language (from browser) when detecting languages. [20:51] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30018 10/trunk/lib/diff/difflib.php: cleanup: no need to define is_a() anymore since Tiki requires PHP5+ [20:54] *** FrankP has joined #tikiwiki [20:54] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30019 10/branches/6.x/templates/translated-lang.tpl: [FIX] xhtml: Wrap form contents in divs [20:54] *** FrankP has quit IRC (Client Quit) [20:54] *** chealer has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:55] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30020 10/branches/6.x/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: [FIX] rankings: Use $multilinguallib->useBestLanguage() instead of outdated request params. [21:05] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [21:08] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30021 10/trunk/ (12 files in 7 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30002 to 30020 [21:10] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30022 10/branches/6.x/lang/flagmapping.php: [FIX] flags: Missing Welsh mapping [21:11] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:13] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30023 10/branches/6.x/templates/translated-lang.tpl: [FIX] multilingual: Disabled translations menu when showing structures as it doesn't work. Use the switch language module as a work-around pending a proper fix after 6.0 [21:13] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30024 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]LISTPAGES: fix AND between categs and perspective [21:22] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [21:22] *** chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [21:22] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [21:27] *** chealer_ has joined #tikiwiki [21:27] *** chealer has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:50] *** chealer__ has joined #tikiwiki [21:50] *** chealer_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:58] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3581 - - bug tracker broken on 6.x? - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3581 [21:58] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3582 - - bug tracker broken on 6.x? - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3582 [22:15] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30025 10/trunk/ (lib/language/Language.php templates/tiki-edit_languages.tpl): [ENH] tiki-edit_languages.php: show differences between original translation (on language.php) and new translation (on database) [22:17] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30026 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [ENH] tiki-edit_languages.php: show differences between original translation (on language.php) and new translation (on database) - (missing file) [22:21] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [22:27] *** rodrigo_sampaio1 has joined #tikiwiki [22:27] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:27] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) [22:41] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:53] *** chealer__ is now known as chealer [22:55] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [22:58] *** fabricius_ has joined #tikiwiki [22:58] rehi [23:00] hi sylvieg could you kick my alter ego, or will he disappear after a while automatically? [23:00] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:00] *** fabricius_ is now known as fabricius [23:02] *** goj has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [23:02] *** goj has joined #tikiwiki [23:07] *** chealer has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:07] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [23:27] thx sylvieg [23:30] *** redflo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [23:39] i give in - more tomorrow [23:39] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: I am going outside... I may be some time...) [23:41] *** fabricius_ has joined #tikiwiki [23:43] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30027 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [23:43] tikiwiki: [ENH] log time of the last modification to a string when using interactive translation [23:43] tikiwiki: [FIX] only show diff option if there is a difference between the original string and the new string [23:43] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:43] *** fabricius_ is now known as fabricius [23:54] *** daniam has joined #tikiwiki [23:54] hello all