#tikiwiki 2010-10-19,Tue

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coaboa	hi jörn	[08:10]
JoernOtt	moin	[08:10]
coaboa	habe mir mal das jpeg pyramid format angesehen und das erzeugt ja nur mehrere kopien des bildes in verschiedenen auflöungen. heist jtip. meintest Du das?	[08:12]
JoernOtt	nope, jpeg2000 bzw. progressive jpeg	[08:12]
coaboa	ah so.	[08:13]
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chibaguy	polom	[09:33]
coaboa	hi chibaguy	[09:33]
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jonnyb	polom :)	[09:38]
chibaguy	hi coaboa and jonny b	[09:38]
coaboa	hello jonnyb	[09:38]
chibaguy	jonnyb also	[09:38]
jonnyb	hi all	[09:39]
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chibaguy	coaboa, did making the center column scrollable work?	[09:43]
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chahn	hi, all	[09:44]
chibaguy	hi chahn	[09:47]
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chahn_	Tiki uses datetype like 1287446400 so it is difficult to guess when it was by just looking the data. Is there any document discussing about that?	[09:51]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Broken image link after upgrade fro 2.2 to 5.1 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39074	[09:51]
chahn_	As a date format, is 20101019**** impossible?	[09:55]
chibaguy	chahn, that looks like a unix time stamp. jonnyb, I'd like to remove the selector element names in layout and design.css, like "div.article" -> ".article" in cases where the element name isn't needed. What do you think?	[09:57]
chahn_	chibaguy, thanks for comment.	[09:58]
chibaguy	jonnyb, It's harder to override these with theme stylesheet selectors because it's easy to forget to add the element name.	[09:58]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy i believe it's more efficient, but could well change behaviour/appearance maybe for 7? 6.0 should release any day now (!)	[09:59]
chibaguy	Sure, for 7 will be good.	[10:04]
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jonnyb	can be part of the html5 project i guess	[10:08]
chibaguy	yep	[10:09]
chahn_	chibaguy, I am translating language.php for Korean. It's almost done at least to the point I wanted. When would be the deadline if I want it to be inserted in 6.0?	[10:09]
chibaguy	I don't know when 6.0 will be released. As jonnyb said, it could be very soon. But there will surely be a 6.1 fairly soon after 6.0. :-)	[10:11]
jonnyb	hi chahn_ - it's a good question!	[10:12]
chibaguy	chahn_, do you have svn access, to commit files for Tiki?	[10:12]
chahn_	jonnyb, hi :)	[10:12]
jonnyb	http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki6#Schedule says it should be in two days time! but i think we're too buggy at the moment, and no one else seems to be around working on 6.x sadly	[10:12]
chahn_	oh I am very sorry to hear that. Then others are working on 7? Because I was informed that 6. would be stable version, I expected so much for its new release.	[10:15]
jonnyb	judging by the commits coming in - i suppose eveyone has their own agendas and schedule sadly it doesn't become stable by being labelled that ;)	[10:19]
chahn_	:) right. But I understood that after labeling it so many people would pour their effort to make it realized. labeling it so, many people I mean	[10:20]
jonnyb	yes, that would be nice - all are welcome! :) chibaguy: related to your earlier comment, i want description to work on span as well as divs - shall we remove the div. from in front? ah, no can do - it's defined as display:block (for some crazy reason!)	[10:21]
chahn_	I thought version 6 would be a very stable and robust version. Still I hope so. Anyway I will hurry up with my language file. Thanks chibaguy and jonnyb. Bye all have a nice day!	[10:26]
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jonnyb	i'm sure it will be eventually... oh	[10:27]
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chibaguy	jonnyb, yes, that seems fine.	[10:30]
jonnyb	also in design.css small.description is also defined as block - rather odd no? anyway, not critical - i'm just trying to make the user prefs page look nice	[10:30]
chibaguy	well, I imagine there was a reason for that, in some context. the rules in layout and design were mor or less gotten by noticing what many theme stylesheets tended to be doing.	[10:31]
jonnyb	i know - let's have a really good clean out after 6.1 - try logic for a change ;) (that's not fair - compared to where we were in 2 it's amazing now!)	[10:33]
chibaguy	well, I think when default values are set, it happens in the context of a design, but of course the properities aren't logical when someone has a different idea about what the design should be. we can get rid of the questionable things, and let the theme stylesheets impose them instead. But I'm happy to have fairly light theme stylesheets now, and hope to keep them like that.	[10:35]
jonnyb	absolutely - less is best :P	[10:43]
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xavi	polom	[10:47]
jonnyb	hi xavi	[10:47]
chibaguy	hi xavi	[10:47]
xavi	hi jonnyb do we have any chance today to get answer to that email about jquery tips? xavi stuck again in another spot where I could solve it with that "magic"	[10:48]
jonnyb	ok crikey, yes i guess so...	[10:48]
xavi	shall I resend it to you? thanks, jonnyb!	[10:49]
jonnyb	no, i still have the draft of it i suppose 6.0 can wait ;)	[10:49]
xavi	well, this is working for documenting 6.0, so you are still working for 6.0 :-)	[10:50]
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jonnyb	:D xavi - the easiest way i think to do this jquery exchange (see reply in devels to your fade question!) would be on skype, with audio working and screen sharing on or we could try bbb if we have more time	[10:50]
xavi	btw, anybody here have been able to use references to external profiles from profiles.tiki.org? I mean, referencing objects in your profile from another profile in profiles.tiki.org. mmm, ok... I wonder how to I do screen sharing with skype I'm at uni, on GNU/Linux	[10:53]
jonnyb	it's on the chat menu i think	[10:53]
xavi	xavi checking the reply of fade	[10:54]
jonnyb	no sorry - "call" menu	[10:54]
xavi	xavi opening skype	[10:54]
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xavi	back some connection issues today in our university, it seems	[11:01]
jonnyb	ah - often the way	[11:03]
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xavi	I was saying that that option is not available , it seems, in skype 2.1 and that's the version in gnu/linux, it seems so no easy screensharing it seems	[11:05]
jonnyb	is that the latest version for *nix?	[11:05]
xavi	but bbb might work, if needed? xavi checking, just in case well, it seems so: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ ah, sorry, this beta2 comes with screensharing I must have some earlier version... hold on, I'll upgrade	[11:05]
ricks99	hi all :-)	[11:06]
xavi	hi ricks99	[11:07]
ricks99	hi xavi	[11:08]
coaboa_	hi ricks99 & xavi	[11:14]
ricks99	hi coaboa	[11:14]
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luciash	polom anybody knows if it's possible to have a channel alias (redirect) on freenode ? would be useful to redirect from #tiki to #tikiwiki (or the other way around), wouldn't it ?	[11:19]
ricks99	good idea	[11:25]
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Kimberlee	hello all	[11:42]
luciash	hey Kimberlee :)	[11:43]
	chibaguy: is the green blog package up to date or better to get it from mods svn ?	[11:52]
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chibaguy	luciash, mods svn is the only place that it is.	[11:56]
	I assume mods.tiki.org is up to date. Sorry, is that the package you mean?	[12:03]
luciash	no, i mean the tar.gz linked from themes.t.o carousel	[12:04]
chibaguy	Ah, yeah, that's up to date. I changed the link you made on the green blog page, because I put the link in the links directory and link to that. ...to get a count of downloads.	[12:06]
luciash	http://themes.tiki.org/Green+Blog cool	[12:07]
chibaguy	I wonder when forum posts started being "published" instead of "posted". (That did change sometime recently, didn't it?) Looking at themes.tw.o forums.. "Published by xxxx at 12:20 UTC." Seems kind of too-much, to me.	[12:12]
luciash	hmmm, no idea	[12:12]
chibaguy	In Tiki 5, it says "on Fri 13 of Nov... by admin" - No verb.	[12:17]
luciash	better with verb but if there is no publish/unpublish option, i think "Posted" would be right	[12:18]
chibaguy	That seems more typical, for sure. What's the method to change a language string now? Before, I changed it in the .tpl and all the language files.	[12:20]
luciash	same	[12:21]
chibaguy	ok.	[12:21]
luciash	but barely many do that, you're an exception ;) good boy	[12:22]
chibaguy	:-)	[12:22]
luciash	i fixed some contrast issues by using "Custom CSS" option in greenblog theme... mainly the problem is, when there is background color specified in layout.css and no color for text specified and dark themes of course use mainly light colors for text by default... where better to put them for commit, to layout.css (actually it should go to design.css) or greenblog.css only ?	[12:25]
chibaguy	Probably where the background color is specified, the text color should be also, in layout.css or design.css. The green blog might need its own because of being light on dark.	[12:27]
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chibaguy	jonnyb and I were just talking about trying to improve the stylesheets some more for the next release. ..so any ideas you have on that topic.... :-)	[12:30]
luciash	ok, i will add it to layout.css for now improve in what direction ?	[12:31]
chibaguy	ah, simply and make more logical, etc. simplify if possible	[12:33]
luciash	kiss is always appreciated	[12:33]
chibaguy	well, I wanted to change div.article to .article and so on, where possible.	[12:33]
luciash	+1	[12:34]
chibaguy	Hmm, 3025 instances of "published" in tiki 6 files. ;-)	[12:35]
luciash	yes, on other places it makes sense	[12:37]
chibaguy	yep	[12:37]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30114 10/branches/6.x/tiki-pick_avatar.php: [FIX] avatars: Propogate view_user (for admin of other users) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30115 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-gmap_locator.tpl: [FIX] gmaps: Check for correct ajax pref (ajax_xajax) and add button to return to prefs button.	[12:43]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30117 10/branches/6.x/tiki-gmap_locator.php: [FIX] gmaps: Propagate view_user (for admin of other users)	[12:47]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r30118 10/branches/6.x/ (47 files in 47 dirs): [FIX] Language improvement (more appropriate verb for forum submit - post rather than publish) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30119 10/branches/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD] user prefs: Split first tab into two for a cleaner, friendlier first impression. tikiwiki: Separated gmap locator button from lat/lon/zoom values (added zoom which was missing) and added small map display to tab 1 (if ajax on).	[12:52]
jonnyb	hey everybody... i've just done this (no doubt controversial) splitting up of the user prefs - can everybody please test (lots)?	[12:53]
chibaguy	hm, it looks the same to me (admin account with not much activated re user prefs).	[13:04]
jonnyb	thanks chibaguy - isn't it split into two tabs for you? (maybe with everything turned off there's not much on each) just re-checking on a default install - seems good for me (not too empty)	[13:05]
chibaguy	ah, I needed to turn more things on (new site).	[13:07]
jonnyb	indeed - avatars and gmaps, all the fun stuff! :)	[13:07]
luciash	imho colors, background and border specs belong to design.css instead of layout.css, what about font specs ? what do you think ?	[13:09]
robertplummer	jonnyb: polom	[13:09]
chibaguy	yes, jonnyb, I think splitting it up makes sense.	[13:09]
jonnyb	it depends luciash, i think	[13:09]
robertplummer	jonnyb: can you help me with something?	[13:09]
jonnyb	greets robertplummer	[13:10]
chibaguy	luciash, yes, fonts too, probably.	[13:10]
robertplummer	jonnyb: just kidding	[13:10]
jonnyb	:)	[13:10]
luciash	robertplummer: hey rob	[13:10]
robertplummer	polom @luciash	[13:10]
chibaguy	luciash, where I had trouble on that was regarding white space: margins and padding - are they layout or design?	[13:10]
luciash	layout	[13:11]
jonnyb	sometimes, luciash and chibaguy, you need some setting of border etc for functional reasons, when without them the interface is unusable, so should go in layout, i think +1	[13:11]
robertplummer	Guys, I just fixed a really big bug with sheets, there was a layout issue with some themes, in particular "thenews".	[13:11]
jonnyb	ah, good old thenews ;)	[13:11]
luciash	jonnyb: yep, but border: solid 1px red is for design, i guess	[13:11]
robertplummer	Anyway, I've overridden it.	[13:11]
jonnyb	hmmm... if it's for a warning? (like the warning wouldn't work if it didn't look different)	[13:12]
chibaguy	so whitespace in a page is always layout? (being devil's advocate here)	[13:13]
luciash	if it's for warning, it's still for designing purpose, not layouting placing it somewhere	[13:13]
jonnyb	i think tiki should be functional using just layout	[13:13]
robertplummer	I changed sheet to work with the theme not the other way around.	[13:13]
luciash	jonnyb, chibaguy : what about merging these two ? :-p	[13:14]
jonnyb	i don't think any css can be allowed or disallowed on some sort of tachnical rule - it's always a judgement	[13:14]
luciash	too late for 6.x	[13:14]
jonnyb	luciash: not this month ;) also, i tihnk keeping them separate is better - so you import layout.css but can replace design with your own one	[13:14]
chibaguy	they started out as one file. I think they were separated to give designers more flexibility about what to import/override or not.	[13:15]
jonnyb	jonnyb wonders if he will ever be able to type thing properly	[13:15]
luciash	jonnyb: btw, tiki is functional using just layout even without border: solid 1px red on warning boxes ;)	[13:15]
chibaguy	that is, importing layout.css should put everything in its place, etc. then importing design.css should save the trouble of specifying a lot of properties.	[13:16]
luciash	okay, not merging then :)	[13:16]
chibaguy	We also have calendar.css, admin.css and so on that should be thought about maybe. freetags.css a patchwork framework.	[13:16]
jonnyb	yes, those little feature ones need tidying up one day	[13:17]
luciash	what about text-align property ? design or layout ?	[13:17]
jonnyb	i once wondered about having a wiki.css and forums.css etc etc, so they could be included only in sections that need them	[13:17]
chibaguy	do you think there's a chance of doing that site-header revamp, putting modules up there same as in side columns? I'd say text-align is design.	[13:17]
luciash	ok	[13:18]
jonnyb	site-header revamp should happen for 7	[13:18]
chibaguy	probably anything about text is design, don't you think? right, jonnyb, but it's amazing how fast these releases come down on us.	[13:18]
jonnyb	don't they!	[13:19]
luciash	yep, browsers should cope with that by their defaults	[13:19]
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chibaguy	chibaguy is reminded of old 'I love lucy' sitcom episode where Lucy is putting topping on pies that move along on a moving belt, and can't keep up. walking dog now. bbl.	[13:20]
luciash	g	[13:25]
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jonnyb	robertplummer: do you ever check the js minify? (i guess not...)	[13:35]
robertplummer	I did not.	[13:35]
luciash	robertplummer: u didn't reply on mailing list so i ask here: do u plan to have raphael in the sheets for 6.x or 7.x only ?	[13:37]
robertplummer	yes 6.x sorry 6.x+	[13:37]
luciash	if it is better to have it as general lib in libs/raphael/ because until now it was only in libs/dracula/ or something	[13:38]
robertplummer	It may be better to change how tiki is grabbing externals from my library.	[13:39]
luciash	but raphael isn't on svn, right ? it uses git or something	[13:40]
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luciash	i mean we can use raphael for many other things, not just the sheets feature so it could be better to have only one for general purposes, than one specific for dracula, one copy for jquerysheets, etc.	[13:41]
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luciash	so instead of lib/jquery/jquery.sheet/plugins/raphael-min.js there could be lib/raphael/raphael-min.js called by headerlib (raphael is not jquery plugin anyway)	[13:45]
jonnyb	we also seem to have duplicates of jquery and jquery-ui now too - Very Bad Things happen with duplicate libraries (as we found with mootools) )	[13:46]
luciash	yea, trying to prevent dulication *duplication, even	[13:47]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: multilanguage feature for FAQ-feature available? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39078	[14:05]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r30123 10/branches/6.x/styles/layout/ (design.css layout.css): cleanup: moving color and background related properties to design.css + little optimizations	[14:10]
jonnyb	changi: you about? :)	[14:17]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30124 10/trunk/ (101 files in 66 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30050 to 30123	[14:26]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3593 - - Tracker Geocoding DOES NOT work. - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3593	[14:40]
chealer	polom	[14:42]
jonnyb	hi chealer	[14:42]
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CIA-60	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30125 10/branches/6.x/lib/tiki-js.js: tikiwiki: [FIX] wiki: Restore legacy wiki_up insert image function for when feature_filegals_manager is off. tikiwiki: Note, you also need ajax_autosave off for the old preview method to upload the selected images. Saving uploads them ok either way. (thanks ricks99)	[15:01]
ricks99	thank you jonnyb	[15:01]
jonnyb	thank me if/when it works ;) was only a tiny fix - and only tested for 10 mins seems good for me tho	[15:02]
ricks99	ricks99 off to update release notes as a known issue - dont use ajax w/ old image storage location	[15:02]
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ricks99	working for me now. tx	[15:08]
jonnyb	:)	[15:08]
ricks99	added as known issue w/ worrkaounds. tx again	[15:09]
jonnyb	seems fair - if you want the old stuff use the old stuff! :)	[15:11]
ricks99	not so much that... has HUGE implications for LTS folks moving from 3 -> 6 in 3, no one used file gals to store images	[15:12]
jonnyb	indeed - i dream of a converter script...	[15:15]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: What did I change to make site into an "Intranet?" - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=39079	[15:26]
ricks99	ricks99 can't wait for jonnyb's super cool script to convert all img/wiki_up/.* images to file galleries*	[15:32]
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jonnyb	jonnyb thanks sylvieg for updating ckeditor - it's fixed a little bug with the plugins :)	[15:35]
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sylvieg	jonnyb: do you have 2 secs - in case you have a genius idea xavi wamts a trackerlist in a trackerlist - but the smarty setting is not recursive so the second items smarty var erase the first items smarty var... is there a quick way to do some recurisivity in smarty?	[15:59]
jonnyb	hmmm, lovely ;)	[16:01]
sylvieg	... I can not image to save all the smarty var before a trackerlist and restore it at the end..	[16:01]
jonnyb	sounds like some of the stuff Geoff's been doing with pretty trackers	[16:01]
sylvieg	the doc is from geoff.. but until it is recursive it will never work	[16:01]
jonnyb	i'm sure i've seen it working with the changes i made (before branch)	[16:02]
sylvieg	how can it be? items is not in a stack... it works with only one element in the first list	[16:02]
jonnyb	you mean have a trackerlist using a pretty tpl with another trackerlist inside it? definitely works	[16:03]
sylvieg	yes ???	[16:03]
jonnyb	hang on, i'll go dig out an example	[16:03]
sylvieg	how can it be ??? how items is saved between 2 calls	[16:04]
jonnyb	(i'm stuck anyway ;) )	[16:04]
sylvieg	I see a correct fix - stack all the smarty vars int rackerlist - but it is not a 5mn job	[16:04]
jonnyb	i added a param in parse_data (i think) so it knows when it's executing in a pretty	[16:04]
sylvieg	but how do you handle with the only $smarty->assign_by_ref("items", $items["data"]); it should be something like $smarty->assign_by_ref("items$iTRACKERLIST", $items["data"]);...	[16:06]
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jonnyb	i think it's mainly line 5313 in tikilib.php $trklib->replace_pretty_tracker_refs($args)	[16:07]
	maybe you're trying to do something else - must say i'm not exactly sure i know how to recreate it (geoff's the expert)	[16:15]
sylvieg	geof example works because the first level has only one item I can send you xavi db test but the repalce_pretty_tracker_refs is only one part of the problem	[16:16]
jonnyb	so each item on trackerfitler 1 finds multiple items on trackerfilter2? you're probably right - that's not coded	[16:18]
sylvieg	trackerlist 1 - smarty->assign('items', items of tracker1) loop on items	[16:19]
jonnyb	i'd try and find another way round and wait for tracker revamp! :)	[16:19]
chealer	is there any tracker items importation feature?	[16:19]
sylvieg	call trackerlist 2 that set items on items of tracker2 and hop... the items of tracker 1 are lost and items is only one var.. there are more that must be stacked	[16:19]
jonnyb	sounds likely	[16:20]
sylvieg	chealer - yes I think so	[16:20]
jonnyb	i need to go and eat (been too long) good luck sylvieg - send me an example db if you like, i'll try and look later (tomorrow prolly)	[16:20]
sylvieg	I forwarded xavi message ... bu I really do not see an easy clean fix	[16:23]
chealer	sylvieg: aha, I see there's something in the Import/Export tab in the last "vertical tab" thank you	[16:24]
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chealer	I'm writing a template function which will always receive an argument from the same Smarty variable. is it possible to avoid passing that argument from templates, addressing the variable directly from the function?	[19:00]
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_Gergely	Good evening/morning everyone! The register_ajax.js is not to be translated. At least not to me. Even if +tr(..) is added, message text modified, and cache is cleared and cookies emptied and webserver restarted. I keep getting the original 'Passwords match' message. How come?	[19:34]
chealer	_Gergely: could you show the translation file?	[19:38]
_Gergely	the db? I only use database translation	[19:39]
chealer	_Gergely: JS translation doesn't support database. the translation needs to be in the javascript translation files	[19:40]
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robertplummer	@luciash, has there been any issues with uploading files in tiki? in file galleries?	[19:40]
_Gergely	wow, chealer. thanks. where is that file? does it use the tr plugin with that file?	[19:41]
chealer	_Gergely: in lang/*/language.js	[19:42]
robertplummer	in an early release of 6 I go to upload a file, then download or view and it is corrupt.	[19:42]
chealer	_Gergely: I don't know what the tr plugin is. robertplummer: this should be fixed by r30000	[19:42]
_Gergely	chealer: {tr} x{/tr} or I saw in js "qwew" + tr("to translate")	[19:43]
robertplummer	so I should upgrade, correct?	[19:43]
ricks99	@robertplummer: check ur db encoding (or use file instead of db). known issue, see rel notes	[19:44]
chealer	_Gergely: {tr} is a Smarty prefilter	[19:44]
_Gergely	lang/en/language.php?	[19:44]
chealer	robertplummer: hum...why not? assuming your install predates r30000	[19:45]
robertplummer	The site isn't on svn, it takes forever :(	[19:45]
chealer	_Gergely: sorry, what is your question? robertplummer: well you can always just change the modified filed, you need to replace 2 words with 1. s/filed/file/	[19:45]
_Gergely	chealer: there is no language.js, but I just looked the php, and it must be the one. Q: how does it know that I want to translate it? tr("x")?	[19:47]
chealer	_Gergely: JavaScript translations are not in PHP files. they're called language.js _Gergely: you should one for catalan in trunk	[19:47]
robertplummer	chealer, in my customer's site, I'm linking flash to the file gallery for some SWEET UI, when it is done I will be sure to give you a link.	[19:48]
chealer	_Gergely: yes, you call the tr JavaScript function from tiki-js.js	[19:49]
_Gergely	chealer: found it. it tanslates the password strength. does it work for en-en translation?	[19:49]
robertplummer	thanks for the help sir	[19:49]
_Gergely	I will try anyway.	[19:49]
chealer	_Gergely: en-en translation :? if that makes sense, it should.	[19:49]
_Gergely	I have not seen the password strength working (ajax on)	[19:50]
chealer	chealer is not very flashy	[19:50]
_Gergely	it just says if the passwords match or not	[19:50]
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_Gergely	the Passwords match and do not match massages are not translated in any of the languages, it seems	[19:52]
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_Gergely	thanks chealer	[19:53]
hrsms	I like that the categories assigned to my wiki pages are listed on the page, but I'd prefer they were listed at the bottom. Anywhere other than the very top of the page, actually, where I think the title should take precedence. There seem to be no options. Do I have to modify the theme (using strasa) to change the location?	[19:53]
MacLeod	Regarding the display of incoming RSS feeds in a wiki page: Has anyone suggested a feature that would allow an admin (or a user with the privilege) to delete individual feed items from a listing?	[19:55]
ricks99	@hrsms: i believe most/all themes show the categorypath at the top. you have two options: 1. manually edit the TPL template file. 2. turn the auto-catpath off, and manually use the catpath plugin at the end of each page	[19:56]
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hrsms	Thanks. I'll see how hard it is for me to interpret the tpl file. If it's over my head, I'll look into the plugin. Thanks again.	[20:10]
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sylvieg	is somebody able to use the plugin alias the + icons are not all working :-( and can not find the save :-(	[20:56]
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chealer	sylvieg: in which branch?	[21:13]
sylvieg	6 or perhaps I canm not figure out how plugin alias works ... I remember to have it works once...	[21:17]
chealer	sylvieg: oh, yeah, that interface is way too confusing no idea how it works	[21:30]
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