I have hosting accounts with Dreamhost, Bluehost, which offer shell (SSH) access
Little confused by the list.  The stated goal is to identify hosts that have set ups that make it difficult to use Tiki.  Are the ones under "4: The List" the difficult ones or the good ones? I'll presume good.
I was heavily considering BlueHost and then read a lot of claims their customer service had gone rapidly down hill.  But then again, you read the same about almost all hosts....
so i editted the conf file of bbb but have to reboot my server so -_-
Marc, thanks for your help.  You too John and Lucias (sp?).   I'll try to learn some SSH commands, and I'll follow up with you and Sylie about the tracker issue by email.
lol np ^^
Last note:  I deleted the Developers group and tracker field.  I was able to set up the same test with the existing Members group, which already had a In Group field in that tracker.  Changed the name of the page "Develpers" page to "Members"
!help
>help!
'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help someothercommand (1 more message)
lawl
omg :|
bbb is working :|
like i wanted it to work :|
YES!!!!!! :$ sorry :P
yay!
and i was so stupid to read over it all the time
hrsms : the goal is to identify hosts with the most customers, and then make sure tiki runs smoothly
>learn lawl as laughing a whole lot
OK, here we go!
>whatis bbb
Error: No factoid matches that key.
>learn bbb as Big Blue Button
OK, here we go!
lol @ luciash
:)
whatis luciash
>whatis luciash
'luciash' could be my Mastaaar !?!? :))
hehehehe
bbl
ok i did my first doc edit :O
ever...
John_87: congrats :)
thank you ^^
and i mailed it to BBB devs
http://doc.tiki.org/BigBlueButton#Set-up i put it there i hope it is ok
looks fine, just use Tiki with uppercase "T" next time, thanks
ah, that wasn't u, sorry :)
lol :P
where can i change my profile?
nvm :P
i have an error on http://tiki.org/tiki-gmap_locator.php?for=user that the api key of google issen't correct
tiki-user_preferences.php
sorry, no idea, who set that up (google maps)
so no idea, what should the api key be there
luciash? does the message module also work in 5.3?
which one
http://tiki.org/tiki-index.php and then the messages module on the left
ah lol i think i found it
shoutbox
ah, nope, i see
the user messages module, yep
sleeping is a good idea it is 2.48 am here lol (clock has gone back one hour due to winter time so it is actually 3.48 am)
daylight saving time*
yep
good night everyone
fyi: irc.tiki.org is DOA
(if anyone is awake)
Sug4r: whatis doa
Error: No factoid matches that key.
doa = dead on arrival
>learn doa as dead on arrival
OK, here we go!
too bad sug4r can't *fix* it
changi: ping
anyone know... how can i get a simple list of all files in file gallery and its children? preferably with sorting options?
Sug4r: enlight ricks99 doctwo PluginFiles
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginFiles
y. tried that. but i dont want it formatted in the table. i want a simple list
ah
i want a to specify galleryId=1 and get a list of all files in gallery 1 and its children. just the list
u need new plugin or param based on PluginFiles i guess
new param to display list instead of in table
u can also use tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=admin
but that's also a table of course ;)
kinda what i thought. 
tx 
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r30424 10/trunk/doc/unstable.version: [MOD] added latest unstable version
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30425 10/trunk/ (14 files in 6 dirs): [NEW] Login using Facebook account
what a shame old_articles module still broken since 1.8 - 1.9 ?
ahhhh, this maybe explains it: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=6&comments_parentId=15442
lets try
polom
moloq
well, nope, it doesn't
I wonder why, at thems.tiki.org, only with the Smooth theme does the site not work when minify CSS is turned on (normal state). layout.css and design.css seem to be not imported with that theme only.
polom guys
oh, hi guys. usually nobody's here but me and my rants at this hour. ;-)
hheh
irc.tiki.org : "could not connet to remote server" :-/
I was going to check the irc log online but....
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30426 10/trunk/templates/tiki-socialnetworks_firstlogin.tpl: [FIX] precaution: avoid same name used for multiple forms
pinged changi but he's not there
i have access to that server but don't undserstand that cgi stuff pretending it is Tiki site ;)
:-)
luciash, do you know where there is a working example of a tiki site using that jquery lavalamp effect?
yep, marc has got one in development, but unfortunately one has to login first to see the menu
ok
you can give it a try on yours ;)
I will. So far with my own attempts at outside jquery scripts, I've been getting errors, etc.
(in tiki 5)
this method worked so far flawlessly
mostly $jq undefined or jquery_tiki undefined.
I'm obvously doing something wrong. that's why I wanted to try the lavalamp since your example code is posted.
chibaguy: i think the main problem is that all the jquery scripts moved towards the end of page and since the custom jquery code you're trying to use depends on it, it must be loaded after, and that is where the jq block comes handy
yes, I think I messed up something within the jq block, so I'll try the lavalamp so I can compare its content to the original lavalamp js, etc.
"unterminated regular expression literal" reported by FF error console, and pointing to "{/jq}"
"jqueryTiki is not defined", with url "lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js"
so lavalamp isn't working in my branch 5 localhost install.
5 needs $jq.
not just $.
ah, thanks, I forgot.
seems i should keep it there ;) the notes are not enough :)
ok, that took care of the undefined jqueryTiki, but I still get the unterminated regular expression literal error.
{/jq}
(and no lavalamp effect yet)
do u have it terminated ?
how do you terminate it?
using {/jq}
well, I pasted the doc.t.o code exactly.
and the closing tag is there.
hmm
and u put it in  Admin > Look & Feel > General Layout > "Custom End of <body> Code" textarea
right ?
because it will not work (at least not with the jq smarty block) in the Custom JS code textarea
chibaguy: ???
howdy do! 
eeek
jcyrisse: don't scare :)
hi :)
hah!
my reputation preceeds me...lol
luciash, sorry, was checking. I did have it in the wrong textarea, but just moved it.
anyone here use the staging approval system....and if so, does the feedback to authors via email work?
Also, I didn't have $ changed to #jq in that textarea.
chibaguy: and still no bells and whistles ?
er, changed to $jq
Nope, not yet.
jcyrisse: sorry, nope
chibaguy: what error now
ah...so i am not doing something wrong then?
jcyrisse: sorry, nope, i don't use it
oh...kk
chibaguy: you may need to go away or reload L&F twice before the changes take effect
luciash, I didn't change the element name in the jq file so there's apparently a mismatch there.
I just used the lavalamp demo code.
chibaguy: u have .cssmenu_horiz ?
(in html)
I'll change that in my wikitext
yesss. bells and whistles. :-)
and lava
I just added the class to the demo's ul tags.
in Tiki ? me feels lost
:)
anyway, good that it works
no, sorry. In my localhost, I just pasted the html for the menus of the original lavalamp demo page.
and forgot to add the .cssmenu_horiz that the jq plugin specifies.
u mean u pasted some html from lavalamp demo page to your Tiki ?
So the demos on this page: http://www.gmarwaha.com/blog/2007/08/23/lavalamp-for-jquery-lovers/
are in my wikitext
yes
ah, wikipage using HTML plugin ?
yes, to be lazy.
u lazy japanese :-p
heh
hey it's a sunday
hi chibaguy
hi nkoth
but wouldn't it be lazier just to enable the checkbox for top bar site menu ? ;)
chibaguy, can you send me a copy of those Association forms?
ah, yes, sorry, nkoth.
I'll take care of that today.
thanks
luciash, I have a horizontal menu (usual tiki-topbar one) already, but don't see the lavalamp effect there.
chibaguy: maybe u have more than one ? than it confuses it maybe
(horizontal css menus i mean)
possibly. I'll try a page where the demo isn't in wikitext.
u can try #cssmenu3 as a selector (or whatever your id for that menu is)
ok
I can't get it to work with the #cssmenu1 or .menu43 or other selectors for the top menu.
weird
worked nicely on marc's
I tried with skeleton theme that has no cssmenu properties, also with normal themes.
maybe there is something different on Tiki 5
i didn't test on Tiki 5
any JS error ?
What theme was he using? I wonder what happens when there's a conflict in the menu style properties.
customized one
Actually I can see some effect. In Milky Way (just happened to be using it) the menu items expand horizontally with hover, so there is an influence of lavalamp.
hard to tell which was it based on but i'd say on fivealive
irc.tiki.org gives a blank page? that normal or me?
amette: you ?
nope
hmm
not?
cangi
changi
ok
thx
it runs on changi's now, right ?
that's the last I know, when it moved away from me - didn't follow it since then, sorry
i have access but no clue how to kick this cgi to wake it up
doc.t.o runs fine there
so it's known to go to sleep like this?
nope, i c it first time off
hmm, ok
should I have a look?
*g*
btw - are you coming to WikiFest, bro? :)
i think it's no way unless u have access
please!! :)
oh, yeah, I thought you might be authorized to give me access... ;)
luciash, no js errors now.
oh, sorry, nope, not coming (this time) :(
(in lavalamp)
ah, damn :-/
amette: i am not authorized, sorry, u need DSA public key to give to changi first
well, ok "This year we train, next year's gonna be huuuge!" ;)
ok :)
luciash: ah, ok, cool, no problem - was just an idea with having a look at it :)
I wonder if Marc's site uses the Tiki menu system of if he just used the custom menu textarea to input a list of links.
chibaguy: nope, it was actual css menu with dropdowns
oh, hmm/
Maybe it's the way I'm using the lavalamp CSS file.
It doesn't seem to be used for the top menu at all.
oh, i don't recall using any css file for that lavalamp effect
probably if its rules were added to the theme stylesheet they'd be used.
chibaguy: but maybe i just didn't notice on that marc's site
chibaguy: can u try without ?
yep, was just doing that. the css file seems to be necessary.
oh
I just get normal ul's if I rename the css file.
what ? the cssmenu horiz should be already styled by tiki, nope ?
ah, I meant in the lavalamp demo in wikitext.
nope, i mean u shouldn't need call any css for the tiki's cssmenus
for that lavalamp effect
ah, that is, the ul's are horizontal but there's no lava effect.
hmm, maybe i missed that css bit
sorry
I need to remember that Opera is messed up when css isn't minified.
i tried in chrome
It seems the hover resizing is done by js but the background lava img is done with css.
ah, k, then i missed it... i will need to correct that tutorial
i thought it was all js
looks like the css that comes with lavalamp can be added to the theme stylesheet, but tiki's normal menu classes have to be given the lavalamp properties.
I got a rough functioning fivealive by adding lavalamp.css's lines to fivealive.css, and adding .lavaLampWithImage to .cssmenu_horiz and so on.
I mean a functioning fivealive with lavalamp menu.
the menu properties have to be merged class by class, more or less.
it seems
i see, i missed that part somebody already did for marc probably... i was just getting the jQuery to work
As I look at it a bit more, I think you could find the css used for just the hover, and not bother with the menu background, etc. and this would be simpler.
... and a better visual merge with existing themes.
I mean my first css combination made a blobby orange menu on top of the origina tiki top menu.
whereas probably just the floating lava is wanted.
yeah, just the floating highlight behind the menu items text would be enough
about your earlier thought, it is no problem to have more than one lavalamp. even the login ul items became lavafied ;-)
(when, for example, the element is .cssmenu_horiz)
ah :)
so what's the missing css trick ?
well, the lavalamp code pkg comes with a css file and background image. so those need to be used by the theme somehow.
at least the css.
or some of it, for the hover bg.
I added the whole file to the end of fivealive, and then edited to add .cssmenu_horiz to some of the lavalamp selectors.
But didn't do it very carefully.
Also some of the fivealive cssmenu code probably needs to be modified to not conflict with the lava.
It is fun to play with though.
it's funny how when you go down into the menu's dropdown, the lava bounces to the far left margin.
well, it'd take a little time to figure out a smooth integration; I guess that was done for marc's site.
anyway, I'm glad to have this working model, for other jquery things I want to do.
thanks, luciash.
np :)
Does this mean the "custom javascript" textarea is useful for things that don't depend on jquery, only?
(It's kind of confusing to casual javascript users.)
yes
nope
actually, you can insert jquery code there too
but jq makes it sure it gets loaded in place on document ready after jquery.js is loaded
otherwise you'd need to put that construct manually as u would in common JS code block
see doc.t.o how i put custom JS mixed with jQuery there
if u're admin there
ok
actually there it is without the 
$(document).ready(function(){ ... }); construct
gotta go, bbl
ok, see you later
good morning all
any idea how i get past this "CRYPT_MD5 not implemented on this system" error when upgrading to 6.x on a local MAC machine?
hopefully someone will read the above later....will check logs to see if any responses
jcyrisse: hi, which version of PHP ? 
hi all
hi coaboa 
chealer: I added myself to wikimatrix but do not appear in the list of consultants @ tiki.o
hi changi
i am John_87
just so you guys know (A)
and uhm irc.tiki.org issen't working?
?whatis bbb
>whatis bbb
'bbb' could be Big Blue Button
>whatis luciash
'luciash' could be my Mastaaar !?!? :))
I'm now logging this channel
I'm now logging this channel
and yhis?
this?
Devilwct: yes :)
hehehe
irc.tiki.org is down for maintenance
:)
but the logger still work :)
mirc with writing to html?
no a homemade one :)
write in perl 
nice
need some adjustment
TikiLogger: hello
Hello changi, I'm just a humble bot but I'll try my best to serve you.
TikiLogger: love
changi, I'm just a stupid bot, but your kindness makes me wish to be human.
lol :P
Devilwct: isn't it cute
yes very cute hahahaha
never tried it in perl though :O
gtg gf is doing her birthday today
bye!!!!
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30427 10/trunk/templates/register-groupchoice.tpl: [FIX] Social networks popup version of this form uses table version.
>help!
'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help (1 more message)
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30428 10/trunk/ (lib/polls/polllib_shared.php tiki-poll_results.php): [MOD]poll: extract percent computation code - no change
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r30429 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_poll.php: [NEW]POLL: option showresult to show result as soon as the suer has voted or always
Hi anybody got any ideas why images wont display in file manager with all permissions set?
changi: PHP/5.2.11
amette around?
yup
coaboa
hi put on wikifestbln.org/Projects a proposal on the subject of the discussion/presentation of Dr. Marighetti. Included a short cv. do you think this is enough. Can we also set up a bbb channel for people not at site?
changi: with MAMP PRO 1.84 for MAC OSX
no problems under 5.x
coaboa: that's awesome, thanks for contributing! :)
oh amette, i finally take an hotel room :)
yes, we are gonna use bbb to stream as much as possible, fabricius works on that
changi: NO!
have you booked already?
jcyrisse: you mean with svn it works, and with the 5.3 package it doesn't
I had it on my list for today to write you that there is change of plans...
.. sleeping place at my crib is free after all.
amette: in fact i'm coming with a friend which came to visit berlin, so it's cool
alright, ok
changi: no, with svn 5.x it works, but svn 6.x does not
if you need any help. lemme know
amette: thank you.
np, yw :)
jcyrisse: that's strange
jcyrisse: where did you get this message ? 
changi: when I try to login
 | Starting logging this channel #tikiwiki - See logs at http://irc.tikiwiki.org - Lines beginning with "[off]" will not be logged - You can stop logging by typing Loggar: off
Loggar is back
 | Starting logging this channel #tikiwiki - See logs at http://irc.tikiwiki.org - Lines beginning with "[off]" will not be logged - You can stop logging by typing Loggar: off
good evening
hi
luciash: hi
hi changi
problems with irc logging ?
no, i did an upgrade on the server from normal to LTS ubuntu
so a little downtime
nothing lost because we have 2 servers,
thx to marc
tonight we couldn't connect to irc.t.o
luciash: the frontend was down
but the logger was here
yep
now it's back :)
as quality one
polom
polom
hi luciash
hi @ all. posted an invitation to the develper list regarding a presentation-discussion covering the "furture" of enterprise collaboration at tiki fest berlin. 
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r30430 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_twitter.php: 
tikiwiki: TWITTER plugin: fix svn:keywords
tikiwiki: remove stray comment
hey question how do you guys transalate the tiki websites?
translate*
and how to update from 5.3 to 6 beta
Devilwct: for your own needs ? or for contribution ?
what question?
:P
Devilwct: tiki-edit_languages.php
contribution for the dutch translation
Devilwct: http://i18n.tiki.org
Devilwct: or directly in SVN
Devilwct: lang/<yourlangcode>/language.php
ok :O
got SVN commit access ?
i can checkout but not commit :O
sourceforge svn?
ah yes nvm :P
but i cannot commit but i will make an account at sourceforge
as u prefer
i18n or i can make u Tiki developer ;)
hmmmm what shall i do lol
what do you prefer :P
if you only plan to contribute to translation, go for i18n.t.o
if you consider to maybe contribute more, go for svn commit access
i am thinking to do more because it is good for my education
(learning for junior software engineer atm)
you know what :P
ask marc for an opinion :P
k, we can start the ceremony if you r ready (have an sf.net account)
omg ceremony? :| is it scary? lol
nope, it is easy :)
1. step: please read and tell if understand you agree to http://dev.tiki.org/3Rules
(it will be just 3 steps ;))
s/understand you/you understand and/
:-p
ok i understand it
hello =)
icewct is my gf and pupil in website coding
she want's to see the ceremony lol
and im here to give devilwct moral support xD
and i agree to it
heheh, ok, step 1 passed :)
step 2: what is your sf.net username ?
mail address or username
mail alias*
go devilwct go xD
hey Icewct :)
hi =)
Devilwct: username
devilwct
lol
great, hold on for step 3 ;)
step 3: ... drumroll ...
my nails are getting shorter by the second :|
rpf;
rofl* lol
Devilwct: welcome officialy to the Tiki community and enjoy to be one of the hundreds developers and contributors we have !
f*ck, was searching what number u actually are, sorry for the delay, sf.net changed since i did it last time, lol
:O
and thank you hahahah really cool
*sweatened
congrats =)
hahahaha cheers!
Icewct: u maybe read http://dev.tiki.org/SVNTips again to know where to commit - in case of translations, you're recommended to start with branches/6.x
or there was some "Where to commit" page iirc
oh btw the fix for BBB to use it the easy way... added it as an fix to BBB hope it will get accepted
yea, lets see
what they say
http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/issues/detail?id=697
is it clear enough/
?
luchiash: was that link really for me? because im here to "support" devilwct and dont know alot about tiki =)
i think so
Icewct: oops, sorry :) you wct guys and gals confuse me :D
lol srry xD
Icewct: it was for Devilwct of course
Icewct: test
LOL
why can't i do that :|
Icewct: but come any time if you want some dev access too ;)
a nvm -_-
luciash: i'll do xD thnx
will do* -_-
but now i still want to know if i can upgrade to 6 or i have to clean install 6
:P
best is to get clean install and then just use the older db and upgrade it via installer and move the files (if any) to it
(if you have some files or images stored in filesystem)
u can also copy over but then you don't have overview of what files changed and what files are obsolete, etc.
gotta go now, bbl
ok so the db didn't changed that much?
 New Forum Posts: Problem with images >1MB - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39266
 New Forum Posts: Help - force all images and attachments into the File Gallery - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39265
i am thinking about too keep 5.3 for my project and user 6.x for my root
user-use
i don't have anything on my root
blank page
db changes are handled by the installer upgrade step
oh that;s great :D i'll try that
and i am thinking to create a irc connector in java is that a good idea? (still learning java so it won't be that fast)
for tiki or for bbb ? would be cool
for tiki
but i am not supposed to be here already ;)
i just learned about file I/O and sql connections in java
so not that far with it
i have some idea's for extra features though so first i am going to read the code so i can see how you guys have worked out everything
ping
no pong? did my connection dropped? :P
Sug4r: ping
pong
Devilwct: we just have a custom ICMP here
:)
Sug4r: ping
pong
lawl
whatis lawl
>whatis lawl
'lawl' could be laughing a whole lot
:P
Sug4r: pong
pong
:-?
there is a typo checker in it :P
lmfao :P
what file does the db connection?
nvm found it
gtg to sleep
my Tiki page is updated to 6
good night everyone
Hello, do somebody can tell me where the <!-- TPL: current_tpl_name -->.$source.< \TPL: ................. --> is set for system mails to users (not for display log - which is "prefilter.log_tpl.php") , and what is the prefs name for these feature ?