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marclaporte: I have to say I am very impressed with ISPconfig
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Devilwct: good morning ^^[08:45] <Devilwct> i guess everyone is sleeping :O
changi: <u>Devilwct</u>: no :)
Devilwct: lol :P
<br> what's ur local time?
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changi: GMT+1 :)
Devilwct: same here ^^
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changi: <u>Devilwct</u>: where precisely ?
<br> <u>marclaporte</u>: i add irc/themes on piwik
Devilwct: The netherlands and you?
changi: <u>Devilwct</u>: fance
<br> oups france :)
<br> Fr/Alsace, not so far
Devilwct: :O
<br> i live a bit in the south of netherlands
<br> <u>changi</u>: you can find my location in my profile i think :O i used the google maps api for it
changi: <u>Devilwct</u>: on irc or on tikiwebsites ?
Devilwct: tikiwebsites
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Devilwct: he should get a big hammer :O
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bro: hi, is there a way to change the links in the catpath plugin, so that they point to sites you can define and not to tiki-browse_categories.php?parentid..
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lphuberdeau: bro, I don't think there is any direct way you can do it from tiki's configuration, might be able to hack your way around with javascript
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bro: i was thinking more of something like changing the way wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_catpath.php looks up the categories
lphuberdeau: don't you just want to change the URL they point to?
bro: yep
lphuberdeau: how do you plan on storing those site links?
bro: mybe in an extra table in the db, if that works
<br> or is it better to do this another way
lphuberdeau: there are many ways to do it depending on how hackish you want it to be
<br> which version are you running on?
bro: latest stable
<br> i think 5.3
<br> yep, it is 5.3
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lphuberdeau: you can probably use the generic object attributes table to store the data
<br> there is no UI to input the values as it's kind of a behind the scenes thing at the moment
bro: you mean the tiki_objects table
<br> yep, but for that we could write a little ui to just change these values
lphuberdeau: and you can use lib/attributes/attributelib.php
<br> tiki_object_attributes
bro: the concern im having with using an existing table is, that if the schema changes with an update, i could get lost
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lphuberdeau: tiki_object_attributes won't change
<br> it was created to contain those types of values
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bro: oh, oke
<br> that helped me a lot, im going to look into this
dcedilotte: Is anybody familiar with the users_rank module?
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lphuberdeau: http://dev.tiki.org/Object+Attributes+and+Relations
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JoernOtt: is info.tikiwiki.org being updated?
<br> I just got a database error there
ricks99: working for me
JoernOtt: did a reaload and the database page is gone
lphuberdeau: might just be the mysql server being a bit too loaded
JoernOtt: maybe just a network hiccup
ricks99: maybe a temporary db connection issue?
JoernOtt: yes
ricks99: when in dobut... refresh
<br> :-)
JoernOtt: usually these temporary errors are just a prelude to a serious server problem
lphuberdeau: I will just let the sysadmins deal with it :)
changi: mysql is a little bit over loaded
<br> :)
lphuberdeau: is it caused by an increase in traffic or something else?
changi: increase in traffic
ricks99: thats a good problem to have
lphuberdeau: let's introduce more bugs to get people to run away then
ricks99: lol
changi: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: lol
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ricks99: well, fwiw, alexa shows a pretty good/steady traffic increase http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=t&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=3m&u=tiki.org&
changi: from where did alexa get those informations ?
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lphuberdeau: I think they just get the data from ISPs
ricks99: and their toolbar http://www.alexa.com/company
lphuberdeau: is it just me or the scale looks reversed?
ricks99: ?
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ricks99: it is interesting, because the google analytics for tiki.org shows a much flatter/less dramatic increase
Devilwct: conn srop -_-
<br> drop*
changi: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes it is
lphuberdeau: alexa probably has some extrapolation going on because their dataset is not as precise
<br> the stats are actually interesting in how the bounce rate dropped dramatically in october
ricks99: i'd love to be able to somehow "capture" all referrals form mozilla, too.
changi: just for fun: we now have stats from where visitors are from, and it's funny but doc.t.o is mostly seen by american people :)
ricks99: y. but i think that's mainly because of overall internet usage. USA is also #1 referral for dev.t.o.
changi: 58%
ricks99: what's really neat is that localhost is the #3 referall to doc.t.o. this means that folks use the Tiki help sytem quite often
lphuberdeau: stranger on dev, because I don't feel that reflects the dev population
ricks99: (and Smarties is the #5 referral for doc.t.o. :-)
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JoernOtt: it also might reflect who is providing data to alexa
<br> in Germany people are quite sensible about privacy (see the whole google streetview fuzz)
-: JoernOtt never trusts staistics unless he manipulated it himself
ricks99: as the saying goes, Lies, damned lies, and statistics
lphuberdeau: all models are wrong, some are useful
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chealer: polom
Devilwct: lol i made a presentation for my tiki users on how to use tiki lol
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luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: salut
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: when i use "Browser title display mode: Description" on Admin > General panel and have Description enabled on Admin > Wiki it used to display My Tiki | My page description in the browser title until few days ago
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i think your commit broke that which is pretty essential to me
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luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: it is necessary to fix or rollback - there is no other way to have page names like mysite.foo/my-page and show "My Tiki | My Page" in the browser title bar (My Tiki | my-page is ugly there)
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i hope u agree :)
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sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: I suppose it has to be fixed ... because it was bugged before - tomany cases
Devilwct: hey guys a question
<br> i have a bit of a problem with map premissions
<br> in the file gall
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: in 6 pretty please :)
sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: but was is your case?
luciash: what i wrote above
sylvieg: I do not understand from where come My TIki?
luciash: i need to use wiki page descriptions in browser title
<br> My Tiki is my site name for browsertitle
-: sylvieg must say that the breadcrumb code is dirty...
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: set on Admin > General panel
<br> Preference name: browsertitle
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i know it is dirty but we need to get the regression fixed
<br> then there is the separator ... |
<br> set on Admin > L&F > last tab
<br> (Choices:) preference name: site_nav_seper
<br> then there goes the page name or description (if description is chosen on Admin > General)
<br> problem is that the breadcrumbs implementation is messy and not implemented on all Tiki sections and pages
<br> and only some (like wiki pages and Admin sections) use the description
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luciash: <u>Devilwct</u>: hi, so what's the question
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: also now on Admin panels pages i have the brosertitle duplicated
Devilwct: <u>luciash</u>: nvm fixed it :P
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: moreover one of them is double encoded :-p
sylvieg: luciash - this last one is not my fault
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: i just changed to "My Tiki >" and i have there "My Tiki > | My Tiki &gt; : Administration : General" in my browser window title
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: there should be just "My Tiki > | Administration : General"
sylvieg: do you know who was the last one before me working on this - the option does not make sense to me...
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sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: what are your option in admin general
<br> site location: before ans display mode: description - gives Browser_title | page_description
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: as i told, under Site Identity fieldset: "Browser Title: My Tiki >", "Site title location: before", "Browser title display mode: Description"
sylvieg: ok I see a bug
Devilwct: a bug?
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ricks99: the new admin icon for performance is interesting... what is it?
Devilwct: for tweak tiki a bit
luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: i think it is a rocket :-p
ricks99: o.
<br> right
<br> looked like a stylized ink pen to me :(
luciash: hmm, maybe stopwatch would be better
<br> but couldn't find one in the jini iconset
<br> that rocket resembled me "rocket fast performance" so i used it
ricks99: k. i just didnt see a rocket
luciash: i understand
uSlacker: Good afternoon all. I had a good talk with Devilwct yeaterday about my new tiki 5.3 site
<br> problem is I can do literally everything except save an article after edititng it
<br> I have opened a ticket with 1and1 for a copy of the apache error log but it appears more difficult than I had hoped for
<br> today I created a blog and was able to successuly create an edit posts
<br> seems lie there is something truelt unique about the articles
<br> any ideas on how I might get at this?
chealer: I see the rocket (but after reading this...). not so obvious, but the one I didn't get is the blue W for Wiki
<br> <u>uSlacker</u>: why can't you save?
uSlacker: When I click save, the page goes off and never comes back. About 2-3 mins later I get a internal server error
<br> sometimes Tiki puts up the error page asking if I've configured the database correctly
<br> once it recovers, everything wil still work, except the atiki-edit_articles page
chealer: <u>uSlacker</u>: what else does the error page say?
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uSlacker: <u>chealer</u>: let me regenerate it - 2 mins
<br> Problem is I don't always get an error - still waiting
sylvieg: <u>luciash</u>: does it fix your problem? on my local I have now browser_title | page_descv
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uSlacker: <u>chealer</u>: the edit article page has "locked" the browser window on the tiki site
<br> but I never got an error
<br> clicking any other link on the menu does nothing
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chealer: <u>uSlacker</u>: I don't really understand
<br> bbl
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Devilwct: did i miss something
<br> >ping
Sug4r: pong
Devilwct: ah
<br> great
<br> :P
chealer: back
Devilwct: <u>chealer</u>: wb
chealer: <u>uSlacker</u>: when did the "lock" start exactly?
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: unfortunately no change after svn up
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luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: from your commit it seems you try to display it in some loc="head"
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: what is that ?
<br> <u>sylvieg</u>: i talk about browser title
sylvieg: in header.tpl therr is a loc=head
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: (browser window)
sylvieg: so to avoid too many changes, I prefer to limit
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FDucloux: hi there
luciash: <u>sylvieg</u>: limit ? ah, does "head" == browser window title (in window decorations) ?
Devilwct: hi
FDucloux: i've been using tikiwiki for a couple of weeks now, and it's awesome
<br> i recently tried to enable categories, trying to separate 2 different groups
<br> but now whenever a new page is created, it fails to save, saying that no category has been assigned..
lphuberdeau: something about mandatory categories has to be disabled
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luciash: <u>FDucloux</u>: i think you need correct perms for the group of user editing the page to be able to view the list of categories and categorize dem, search for category related perms on Admin > Permissions
FDucloux: thanks
<br> i'll try that :)
luciash: <u>FDucloux</u>: then Categories tab will appear on editing page
FDucloux: so.. that permission has to be assigned to the group, and not to the category itself, right?
<br> excelent!! it works now
<br> thanks very much!
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<br> tikiwiki: [FIX] xajax: Remove duplicate js files included in ajax response (now correctly
<br> tikiwiki: included by headerlib) and key sort headerlib->jsfiles in same way as non-ajax
<br> tikiwiki: calls so same minified file is used and contents loads in the correct order.
Devilwct: question!!!
<br> do i also need to fix some translation errors? like wrong word choice?
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chealer: <u>Devilwct</u>: sorry, what do you mean, need to... for what?
Devilwct: i am doing the dutch translation
chealer: <u>Devilwct</u>: if you want to help with the Dutch translation, both better/fixed translations and new translations are welcome
<br> I prefer seeing strings in English than incorrect translations
Devilwct: :O
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uSlacker: <u>chealer</u>: I think I have a lead on my problem
<br> I moved the session information in the database and the problems seem to go away
<br> I assume this indicates there is another configuration issue - what it is I do not know
<br> I wrote it up in the forum: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?topics_offset=1&forumId=6&comments_parentId=39314
<br> Devilwct I may have a lead on the issue we discussed yesterday
Devilwct: really?
uSlacker: I moved the session information into the database
<br> Since this site will be mostly view only, I'm hoping it wont be a problem
Devilwct: i am very uhm how do i say it in english couriage?
uSlacker: encouraged?
Devilwct: curious
uSlacker: yes
<br> I think there must be some other issue
<br> maybe a file permission
<br> but I've reset everything
Devilwct: that's also an option
<br> to 755 right?
uSlacker: correct
<br> Question - on the general settings page
<br> the Temporary directory - where is that under tiki directory?
Devilwct: one sec
<br> i will look
<br> if it is not a db temp i will find it :P
<br> ah lol its a temp dir
uSlacker: yes
Devilwct: called "Temp"
uSlacker: I have "temp" in that setting
Devilwct: yeah it is in the root folder
uSlacker: I asssume it is under /tiki/
<br> ok
<br> I wonder if thats where the php sessions are stored
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chealer: <u>uSlacker</u>: no, PHP stores sessions in /tmp by default. it's odd that a problem with session would only affect articles.
uSlacker: I agree
<br> but I've tried it several time
<br> loging out and closing the browser everytime
<br> without it saving an article always hangs
<br> on a shared host would the phpsessions save under my directory tree?
<br> I don't have access to /tmp
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Devilwct: and if you don't log out and close the browser
<br> and just close the browser sorry
<br> what does it then
uSlacker: I do that whe I change where the session information is stored. It causes session to end
<br> Just make sure its is a clean session
<br> once I have that, editing articles always woks with the session in the database
Devilwct: yes but you also have a cookie
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uSlacker: I'll have to test that
chealer: <u>uSlacker</u>: you'd have to check PHP configuration
uSlacker: <u>chealer</u>: - looking for what?
Devilwct: you have an option in your admin menu to view the php settings
<br> called "phpinfo"
uSlacker: got it
<br> session.cookie_path is set to /tiki-5.3
<br> which is the directory I have tiki installed to
Devilwct: yeah that's the cookie and the session?
<br> session.save_path E:xampptmp E:tmp
<br> huh
<br> session.save_path E:xampptmp E:xampptmp
uSlacker: Oh! /tmp
Devilwct: yeah its a linux server so it should be /tmp
<br> i am running windows :P
<br> and you cannot access /tmp if it is a shared server so you are right
uSlacker: well, I can see it!
Devilwct: really? :|
uSlacker: and there are session files in it
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Devilwct: is it a virtual server?
uSlacker: no, shared hosting. There are session files from other users
Devilwct: ok
uSlacker: Well, Devilwct, once again thanks for the help
Devilwct: no problem :O
uSlacker: I've got to head home to watch the election results
Devilwct: you are going to bed?
<br> ah lol sorry :P
uSlacker: it is only 5p here
Devilwct: lol :P sorry here it is 10.30 pm :P
uSlacker: so you are going to bed!
Devilwct: i am in bed :P
uSlacker: haa!
chealer: <u>uSlacker</u>: so, the sessions aren't in your directory tree. if they're in /tmp and you don't have access to /tmp, that would be a problem, but again, that should not affect only articles.
<br> I wouldn't think you'd be able to login
Devilwct: well you can try it out somewhere else uSlacker
uSlacker: it appears apache is writing all sess_ files there. for me and other users
Devilwct: you can even try it out on my server if you like (just to try it out) i am not hosting lol
uSlacker: I have another install and it works fine
<br> it is something specific to this install
Devilwct: on the same server?
uSlacker: thanks for the offer
Devilwct: lol no problem
uSlacker: no, my own linux svr
Devilwct: ah lol
uSlacker: I've been running tiki since 2003
Devilwct: :O
<br> nice
uSlacker: but I am a *very* light user
Devilwct: i sinds a week or 2 lol -_-
<br> since*
uSlacker: ok, I really have to go. g'night all
Devilwct: sorry dutch :P
uSlacker: and thanks
Devilwct: gnight and good luck maybe tomorrow!!
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resuni: how do i change my username?
Devilwct: here?
chealer: <u>resuni</u>: you don't, unless you have the user administration permission
resuni: i do
<br> i am the admin and i can't find where to change my user name
<br> i'd rather it be 'resuni' than 'admin'
Devilwct: you can make a new user with "resuni" as username and add the account to the group "admins"
resuni: ok but i can't change the name of the original admin account?
chealer: <u>resuni</u>: it seems you can't rename admin
resuni: ok thanks
Devilwct: gtg guys
<br> good night ^^
chealer: good night Devilwct
Devilwct: maybe i'll be on later if i can't sleep
<br> thnx chealer
<br> byeeeee
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coaboa: hi usability/bug in tiki 6.0 branch: when using loginbar and submit empty login (not filling anyhting in) the login div appears somewhere else but not where intended (in case of fivealive on doc.t.o u have to click the "Log in" button in the popup).
<br> + good night all, back tomorrow ;-)
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