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   uSlacker: <u>thraxisp</u>: You may need to come back during the "day" to talk with someone
   thraxisp: will do
   uSlacker: by day I mean Europe or East coast US time
   <br> Lots of the project leads do tiki as a day job
   <br> and take a break at night
   thraxisp: I'm Eastern US time. I'll hang around tomorrow.
   uSlacker: ok.  Me too.  where are you?
   thraxisp: Ottawa, Canada
   uSlacker: Several folks from up there.  What are you doign with Tiki? if you don't mind the inquisitoin
   <br> (and the bad typing)
   thraxisp: I used to use it for an internal corp wiki in 2001 to 2005. It runs a Community Association web site now. (www.cbbca.ca).
   uSlacker: cool
   <br> Wow!  That's tiki? Nice work
   thraxisp: Thanks
   lphuberdeau: well, that still does look a bit like tiki, I've seen more subtle ;)
   uSlacker: yeah, well, I have no design skills so my sites get the boxed set of themes :-)
   thraxisp: The changes are small (some images and css only)
   lphuberdeau: content layout is nice
   <br> uslacker, that's coelesce, a default theme ;)
   thraxisp: correct
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   uSlacker: How do you get two columns of articles ont he page?
   <br> is that a feature I don't know about?
   thraxisp: No, just two divs. The articles have different topics. The {ARTICLES} tags reference these.
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   xavi: polom
   <br> any tracker master around, to test some possible new regression detected in tiki6 beta3?
   <br> http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Tiki6&amp;history_offset=0&amp;diff_style=sidediff&amp;diff_style=sidediff&amp;show_all_versions=y&amp;compare=Compare&amp;newver=0&amp;oldver=164&amp;paginate=on&amp;history_pagesize=30
   <br> a tracker doesn't fully export data as csv (most columns are empty), whereas in Tiki4 it worked like a charm
   <br> same tiki, same tracker, etc.
   <br> ok, g'night all
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   Lethalmiko: How do I use "article_image.php" to create thumbnails on the fly? The following is in the comments at the top of the file:  "application to display an image from the database with option to resize the image dynamically creating a thumbnail on the fly." Currently you can call an article image in a template file thus:  article_image.php?image_type=article&amp;id=XXX  How do I turn the above into a thumbnail that can also be cached? I a
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   coaboa: hi all
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   rodrigo_sampaio: hi changi
   <br> <u>changi</u>: release candidate today?
   <br> <u>changi</u>: just checking if there is still time for commiting translations from i18n.tiki.org
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   philback: Hi gang. Back to tikiwiki :-) Is there any support for superfish menus in 5.x ?
   rodrigo_sampaio: hi philback, I think so. Check UI Effects tab under Look &amp; Feel admin page
   philback: @rodrigo_sampaio: nice, there are in. Do I have to alter the tpl to get the navbar style or is there some hidden option?
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   rodrigo_sampaio: <u>philback</u>: sorry, I don't know much about superfish menus so I don't the answer to your question
   ricks99: hi all :-)
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   chibaguy: polom
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   coaboa: hi chibaguy and riks99
   chibaguy: hi coaboa and everybody
   <br> <u>philback</u>: the superfish navbar style is partly implemented but doesn't actually work yet;
   <br> Some more CSS tweaking is needed.
   <br> You need to use the topbar custom menu textarea, and put &lt;div class="navbar"&gt;{menu id=43 css=y type=horiz}&lt;/div&gt;
   <br> IIRC it was working at one time soon after I put the stylesheet together, but broke soon after.
   <br> (Original superfish demo: http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/#sample4 )
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   Devilwct: hello everyone
   <br> i found a bug XD
   -: chibaguy is shocked. a bug in tiki?
   Devilwct: yes :(
   <br> the external rss feeds doesn't work properly (well i think or i just use the wrong syntax)
   chibaguy: what version of Tiki is that, and which rss feed?
   Devilwct: version 6
   <br> and it is an rss from a dutch ict news website
   chibaguy: ah. I haven't been using rss feeds in tiki 6; maybe somebody else here is.
   Devilwct: i just have to add it like to the homepage with {rss id=2} right?
   <br> it will show the name of the rss feed but not the feeds or headlines (or how do i have to explain it)
   philback: @chibaguy thx.
   Devilwct: http://www.project-wot.tk/
   <br> there it is on the homepage so you can see what i get
   chibaguy: <u>philback</u>: I'd like to get that working for the next release anyway (tiki 7).
   ricks99: @Devilwct: on tiki-admin_external_wikis.php update the feed, and verify that it is being read
   Devilwct: i get a blank page if i do that :O
   ricks99: when you do what?
   Devilwct: update the feed
   ricks99: on tiki-admin_external_wikis.php you clicked refresh for the feed, and tiki returned a blank page?
   Devilwct: yes
   ricks99: what is the url of the feed?
   Devilwct: http://feeds.webwereld.nl/webwereld
   ricks99: u need the xml of the feed. not the feedburner page
   Devilwct: :O
   ricks99: with feedburner it is something like ?format=xml to the end of the url (check feedburner docs, i'm not 100% sure)
   Devilwct: still get the feedburner page?
   ricks99: something like http://feeds.webwereld.nl/webwereld?format=xml but you need to check feedburner docs to be sure of the format
   Devilwct: ok
   <br> yes it is ?format=xml but it won't work :S
   <br> i found an script online on how to read out rss in php
   <br> so i tried this: http://feeds.feedburner.com/webwereld?format=xml
   <br> and it's shows me news but gives me a blank on tiki
   ricks99: not sure. how much php memory do you have for tiki?
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   Devilwct: let me check one sec
   <br> i know it is a lot
   <br> php has 1024mb
   ricks99: i'm out of ideas. maybe someone else will know? or try posting on the support forum?
   Devilwct: nah i will delete it for now it issen't that important
   ricks99: did u try other feeds? maybe something special with that one?
   Devilwct: no not really it is the only feed i normally reed lol :P
   <br> read
   ricks99: i mean, to test to see if the issue is with your tiki installation, tiki in general, or the feed
   Devilwct: yeah i know what you mean one sec i will search for a simple feed
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   ricks99: try http://news.google.com/news?output=rss
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   Devilwct: that one works
   <br> i think it is the rss feed
   ricks99: agreed.
   Devilwct: i just can't get the xml output and with ur link i can
   xavi: polom
   <br> sylvieg ?
   <br> hi all , btw :-)
   coaboa: hi xavi
   xavi: hi coaboa
   <br> confirmed same behavior as sylvie reported with (broken) export of tracker items (in tiki6b2)
   <br> with and without ajax
   sylvieg: <u>xavi</u>: the message without ajax is strnage...
   xavi: I'll upgrade right now to tiki6b3, but I guess that no difference...
   sylvieg: I do not udnerstand why it opens a tmp fil;e
   xavi: yes, I also see the same message
   <br> and never saw that message in tiki4 (same server, etc.)
   Devilwct: thnx ricks99
   xavi: sylvieg, howefer, the option to "Dump all Tracker items" works fine (with ajax, at least)
   sylvieg: btw export on my local is fine
   xavi: yes, confirmed, that without ajax, Dump items also work as expected
   <br> in your local is fine?
   <br> mmm, ok, I'll make a db dump and send it to you
   <br> thanks for testing...
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   zak123: hi all, I was wondering if someone could help me get a user menu working
   <br> let me rephrase that
   <br> i want to allow every user to create a custom menu with his favorite wiki links
   <br> is the "user menu" feature correct for that or is "bookmarks" better?
   <br> or neither
   ricks99: bookmarks
   zak123: looked more like external links
   <br> i want the user to directly see them on the navigation menu
   <br> (i mean bookmarks looks like it was meant for external links)
   ricks99: but unique for each user?
   zak123: yes
   <br> e.g. i am a software developer so i might want a link to ((Software))
   <br> a hardware developer might prefer one to ((Hardware))
   <br> so i took a look at http://doc.tiki.org/User+Menu
   <br> Quote
   <br> This section can be used to manage items in the user menu section of the application menu (if enabled). Then, you can reach it under "Application Menu &gt; MyTiki (click!) &gt; User menu". The screen lists items added to the menu (if any), and new items can be added or edited:
   -: ricks99 never used that feature
   zak123: but the user menu never shows
   <br> application menu is enabled
   <br> in the user menu section of the application menu (if enabled) &lt;- is ambigious
   <br> "if enabled" could refer to the application menu or to the user menu section
   <br> maybe i have to edit the application menu somehow
   ricks99: did u enable the User menu option (on admin: community page)?
   zak123: yes
   <br> i just cant get it to show. i must me missing something
   ricks99: not sure. i have never used that feature. sorry.
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   ricks99: maybe someone else will know, or you can post to the support forum
   Devilwct: zak123 r u dutch?
   zak123: german
   Devilwct: ah ok
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   zak123: hmm i'll ask in the forum but if anyone has an idea i would appreciate it
   <br> an alternative would be a custom start page for every user
   <br> where they can put links
   ricks99: or use the "userpage" feature?
   zak123: i'll look that up thanks
   <br> are you using it=?
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   uSlacker: Good day all, I want to revisit an issue I'm having with a new 5.3 install
   <br> this site is in a shared hosting environment with 1and1.com
   <br> when I add an image to an article topic, the image is not display correctly, I get a broken image icon instead
   <br> when we looked at it yesterday and I called the article_image script directly, I got the raw jpg data not an image
   <br> it may be there is a mime type issue
   <br> but I barely know what that means let alone how to solve it
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   xavi: <u>uSlacker</u>: can you test on a Tiki6 site?
   <br> and if reproduced there, also, add a note to http://dev.tiki.org/tiki6 (I would say) in the appropirate section
   uSlacker: <u>xavi</u>: is there reason to think this is fixed in v6?  I don't mind testing it if that is the expectation.  I'm a bit hesitant to use tiki6 for this site given its immaturity
   xavi: you can try in the demo sites
   <br> http://demo.tiki.org/6x/
   <br> sent user and pass in private message, uSlacker
   uSlacker: I have used the feature successfully with another 5.3 site.  The issue seems related to the shared hosting configurtion
   xavi: "its immaturity": not that much... getting close to 6.0 officially stable... (rc1 in the oven, afaik)
   <br> ok, uSlacker, no idea, then
   ricks99: @uSlacker: i have tiki6 beta -- my article images appear just fine
   xavi: the bonus of testing an upgrade to tiki6 in your hosting (if you have a spare db and space on disk) is that developers are very open, before 6.0 public release, to fix regression or very annoying or nasty bugs, etc.
   <br> <u>uSlacker</u>: in case you caonsider that option, remember the documentation about it: http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade
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   uSlacker: <u>ricks99</u>: they are working ok in my other 5.3 site.  I suspect its something to do with the shared hosting setup
   ricks99: iirc, topic images are always stored in the db.
   uSlacker: <u>xavi</u>: thanks for the tip.  This site is using the most basic CMS function of tiki (publish and depublish of articles based on dates)
   ricks99: known issue with db corrupting images if collation type or db encoding is incorrect
   uSlacker: <u>ricks99</u>: what does it need to be?
   <br> now is the time to change it!
   ricks99: confirm that 1. db uses utf-8 2. that local.php specifies utf-8 and 3. your mysql setup uses utf-8 for the collation connection
   uSlacker: can that be "changed" or do I need to recreate it?
   ricks99: can be changed
   <br> but backup first :-)
   uSlacker: Right!  Good safety tip!
   xavi: <u>uSlacker</u>: read the page about Upgrade!
   uSlacker: will do
   xavi: I wrote specific comments on how to safely fix the enconding issues
   ricks99: 1 &amp; 2 are easy. #3 may require going through your host, depends
   xavi: ok
   uSlacker: ok, accoriding to phpmyadmin:
   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: I disencourage (for fixing db enconding issues) suggesting users manual and partial fixes
   uSlacker: MySQL charset = UTF-8 unicode (utf8)
   xavi: unless they know VERY well all the details...
   uSlacker: MySQL connection collation = utf8_general_ci
   xavi: in your comments, you forget that content already presnet in the db maybe corrupted
   ricks99: true. very true
   xavi: luckily, the tiki-install.php script, if run with the appropirate steps, at least once, fixes all the issues in the same go
   uSlacker: xavi - good tip at this point there is little content or customization
   xavi: "the same go": differnt steps, one after the other
   <br> my 2 cents
   ricks99: @uSlacker: what is your "MySQL connection collation" ?
   uSlacker: MySQL connection collation = utf8_general_ci
   xavi: lphuberdeau did a good job in tiki fest barcelona adding all that in the tiki-install.php script
   <br> let's use it
   ricks99: in local.php,what is the client charse
   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: fyi, we don't need to ask those questions for users, if they follow the steps in the documentation about Upgrade (Fix the enconding issue)
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   xavi: fyi
   ricks99: re-run the tiki-installer. as xavi says, if it detects encoding issues, it will tell you and try to fix
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   uSlacker: local.php says utf8
   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: well, but if there were issues because of wrong encoding in the db or tables, for tiki-install.pph script to fix it properly and extensively, the db need to have the same old collation
   uSlacker: but I recall a message during the install
   <br> I will re-run it
   xavi: if you change the db collation manually (phpmyadmin), I'm afraid that tiki-install.php script won't succeed!
   ricks99: @uSlacker: are *all* the tables in your DB utf-8?
   uSlacker: I didn't change anything
   <br> what I reported is wht they were when I looked
   xavi: <u>uSlacker</u>: ok, then you can safely run the tiki-install.php script following the tips in the upgrade pagae
   <br> I specifically meant this: http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade#Fix_the_encoding_issue
   <br> fyi
   uSlacker: thanks xavi - I'll go read it and see give it a shot
   xavi: ok, and report back if any issue,please
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   xavi: thanks  to lphuberdeau for finding the (relatively easy for end user) solution to that nightmare-issue otherwise
   uSlacker: ricks99, how can I tell?  the collation for most is latin1_general_ci, but I don't see charater set
   ricks99: if colaltion is latin1, that's a problem
   uSlacker: ok - off to read and "fix"
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   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: there is no problem. tiki-install.php will fix it, if the user follows the steps in the doc. page
   ricks99: y. but it is possible that host-specific or mysql my.ini will override anything tiki sets
   <br> thats why i alwyas like to at least look directly at the db, to see what the settings truly are
   <br> but in general y, using the tiki installer is definately the way to go
   uSlacker: <u>xavi</u>: ricks99:  Great news!
   <br> that fixed it
   <br> the installer is Awesome
   ricks99: +100
   uSlacker: quite seamless
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   xavi: :-) &amp; lph is awesome!
   uSlacker: agreed.  Thanks, lphuberdeau!
   philback: I am running again into that damn "Tiki is unable to connect to the database" problem. (I had it fixed for this install but it came back as I mistakenly downloaded a file from the production server trashing db/local.php) Any clue? I googled and searched but to no avail.
   ricks99: u can re-run the installer. Tiki will recreate the local.php file
   philback: yes, but this is about the adodb vs pdo issue.
   <br> I put adodb as api but it didn't helped. Anyhow, I'll do that
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   philback: fixed. Damn pdo! Back to adodb.
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   philback: How can I include a module in tiki.tpl? I tried {tikimodule} but it doesn't seem to work.
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   chealer: <u>philback</u>: use {include file='modules/mod-....tpl'}
   philback: Let's see...
   <br> nope.
   coaboa: see themes.tiki.org/Template+Tricks  {wiki}{literal}{Mode}
   <br> sorry soemthing missing
   <br> see themes.tiki.org/Template+Tricks  {wiki}{literal}{MODULE}{/literal}{/wiki}
   Devilwct: guys i found a bug in 6 and yes this time a real bug
   <br> users can't do the surveys and they have the rights to take it, when i give them the admin survey right they are enable to take the survey's
   lphuberdeau: releases are never bug-free and at this stage, unless it's a show-stopper, it will have to wait for 6.1
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   uSlacker: riicks99 &amp; xavi, since I have you here :-) can I ask about a different problem I had with this setup?
   xavi: <u>Devilwct</u>: if it was working in tiki5, please add a note in http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki6 where it says "regressions"
   <br> and in any case, consider adding a bug report about it (at http://dev.tiki.org ), because as lphuberdeau says, there are low chances that it will get fixed before 6.1
   <br> hi lphuberdeau btw
   <br> <u>uSlacker</u>: you can ask
   <br> I don't know if I (or others) will be able to answer
   <br> but you can ask, of course :-)
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   xavi: and teaching classes approaching in the other end of the city
   uSlacker: recall this is a shared hosting environment
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   uSlacker: I have a problem when editing Articles that clicking Save causes the page to become non-responsive and then eventualy "dropping" the database connection
   xavi: luciash or ricks99 : any idea what can make the display of the image next to "share this" wrong, in the blogs in tiki6 (strasa): http://r-help-es.ourproject.org/blog1-Trucos
   <br> it was displaying properly in tiki5
   <br> using chrome 7.x, in case it matters
   uSlacker: I am able to make other database changes (admin setting, saving wiki changesetc), but saving an article always stops the page from responding
   xavi: mmm, smae behavior in ff 3.6.x
   <br> <u>uSlacker</u>: no idea
   uSlacker: odd thing is that if I switch to database cookies, the problem goes away
   Devilwct: i don't know if there was a problem with 5.3
   <br> but i will post it
   ricks99: @xavi: need to fix the css definittion fo span@share.share a {...}   you're including the background image
   <br> @uSlacker: anyhting special about the article, size, images, plugins, etc? I have articles in tki6b3 working fine
   philback: I've been using {wikiplugin _name=include page=XXX}{/wikiplugin} in my tiki.tpl and it works. Now, how can I ensure that this is used only ofr a given URL ? With {if ...}?
   xavi: ok, thanks, ricks99 , I'll look for that, but I didn't change my small changes in css from tiki5, just upgraded a few mins, without touching any css
   <br> so I presume that the problem is somewhere inthe standard/included css files in tiki6 (or strasa.css, etc.)
   ricks99: that's definattely where its coming from
   xavi: but thanks, I'll have a look tomorrow
   <br> ok, c u all
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   Tikiwiki|bot: Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3624 - - Users can't take survey  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;itemId=3624
   Devilwct: ha cool
   <br> that's my post
   <br> :P
   ricks99: which tiki version? i have surveys working in tiki6b3 -- no admin acesss requrid
   Devilwct: i am on 6
   ricks99: which beta?
   Devilwct: where can i see that?
   ricks99: it is on the admin: general page
   Devilwct: b3
   ricks99: are you using categories? check the cat perm for the survey
   chealer: polom
   Devilwct: no i am not using cats
   <br> not yet
   ricks99: are you embedding the survey in a wiki page, or using the survey page itself?
   Devilwct: survey page itself
   chealer: <u>philback</u>: you can use {$smarty.server.REQUEST_URI} (see templates/tiki-object_watches.tpl for example)
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   luciash: polom
   ricks99: did you close the survey? check the valid dates
   Devilwct: no did not close the survey
   <br> wait i will make another survey and test it again :S
   ricks99: and no object-specific perms on the survey?
   Devilwct: i have made this survey when i was running in 5.3 maybe that can be the problem?
   <br> yes added admin permission :P
   ricks99: should be fine
   <br> oh.. well thats why
   <br> if you added admin perm to the survey, then no one else (without that perm) can take the survey
   Devilwct: no wait i mean the admin rights to the users
   <br> they have the rights to take it
   -: ricks99 confused... you gave admin rights to a group but they still can't take the survey?
   Devilwct: yeah to do when they have the admin rights
   <br> but they can't when i just say the survey can be taken by users
   ricks99: so, a group with "take survey" permission cannot take the survey? you have no object-specific persm on survey and it is not in a category?
   Devilwct: yes but i made a new one
   <br> and now it works :S
   <br> without the admin survey perm
   ricks99: y. that's the way it should be (that's how it works for my site)
   Devilwct: i checked if it was open or closed but it was open
   <br> so very strange
   <br> but it worked now somehow -_-
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   <br> tikiwiki: [bp/r30000][FIX] PDO: uploading a file to a file gallery and recovering it
   <br> tikiwiki: breaks its non-ASCII characters when client_charset and character_set_database
   <br> tikiwiki: differ (often making applications report the file as corrupted), and operations
   <br> tikiwiki: on BLOBs in general
   <br> tikiwiki: partially reverts r27399. Ref: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=4CAAAFFD.6040103%40gmail.com
   <br> tikiwiki: This might have the opposite effect for BLOBs populated in Tiki 5; please report if this happens
   philback: @chealer: {if $page eq HomePage} worked fine. Thanks for the tip anyway.
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   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: nice catch with uSlacker's problem. I hope that will fix it.
   Devilwct: thanks for the help ricks ^^
   ricks99: no problem
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   ricks99: brb
   Michael___: Just installed tiki 5.3. After building the site for a couple of days, I went to edit the home page. All was well. Went back to edit and now whether I click Preview, Save, or Cancel Edit, I get a "you are not logged in" error. Tried clearing cache and deleting session cookies. Any other ideas?
   chealer: <u>Michael___</u>: are you logged in?
   Michael___: Yup
   <br> Logged in, doing admin work
   <br> Go to the home page, edit, then when I attempt to preview, save, or cancel, I get an Error: You are not logged in page.
   <br> Thought it might have been a session cookie, but it happens in all browsers.
   <br> Cleared all tiki cache, no help
   <br> Oy
   <br> Might have found the problem
   <br> Renamed the HomePage to Create | Share | Collaborate
   <br> Changed it to Create - Share - Collaborate
   <br> Works fin
   <br> *fine
   <br> Looks like the pipe symbols could have caused the problem
   <br> so much for creative page naming constructs
   <br> Confirmed
   chealer: <u>Michael___</u>: did you enable AJAX or the WYSIWYG editor? do you have JavaScript errors?
   Michael___: None
   <br> Ajax not enabled at the moment
   luciash: <u>Michael___</u>: if you want creative page names in your browser title bar, you may want to enable Wiki pages descriptions and swicth to display them instead of page names as part of the title on Admin &gt; General
   chealer: <u>Michael___</u>: I have no problem with a page with the same name in a 5.x install
   changi: polom
   chealer: <u>changi</u>: hi. I had received your first mail about the database issue.
   changi: <u>chealer</u>: ok :)
   chealer: <u>changi</u>: I asked an example of field with the problem.
   changi: <u>chealer</u>: i'll send you an export a soon i come home, so in an hour
   chealer: OK
   changi: <u>chealer</u>: in fact all field set as text become mediumtext :)
   Michael___: @luciash Thanks for the suggestion
   <br> Thanks chealer
   changi: <u>chealer</u>: heading in tiki_blogs
   -: changi will release RC in 3 hours
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   ricks99: arg. trying to use {$f_lastmodif} in a pretty tracker template. but the date is returned as a timestamp - how to make it formatted properly?
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   ricks99: o never mind. using |tiki_short_datetime seems to work fine
   chealer: are Edit section icons showing for anyone in Tiki 6 or trunk?
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   Devilwct: guys i am going to eat something and take the train so see you all later ^^
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   jonnyb: polom!
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   GillesMM: hi
   chealer: hi jonnyb
   jonnyb: hi chealer
   <br> hi GillesMM
   GillesMM: hi jonnyb
   <br> I gote error after upgrade : select count(*) from `tiki_comments` as tc1 where `objectType`=? and `object`=? and `average` &lt; ? and tc1.`approved`=?
   jonnyb: <u>GillesMM</u>: upgrading to tiki 6 beta 3? From which version?
   GillesMM: I tried tu upgrade from 2.4 to 5.3
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   jonnyb: hmmm, 2.4 is pretty old - probably safer to go to 3.8 first, then 5.3 (or is it too late now?)
   <br> where is this error?
   GillesMM: http://tikiwiki.gillesmaire.com/linuxmao/tiki-index.php?page=accueil
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   jonnyb: looks like some database updates didn't happen in the update - no tiki_comments.approved column
   GillesMM: yes I had the on other TW but after some tries it works
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   jonnyb: <u>GillesMM</u>: can you get into your database? (like in phpmyadmin?)
   GillesMM: yes
   jonnyb: running the sql in installer/schema/20081006_comments_moderation_tiki.sql will fix that (but i worry what else it has missed)
   <br> ALTER TABLE tiki_comments ADD COLUMN `approved` char(1) default 'y' NOT NULL;
   <br> 2.x used a very different system of database updates
   <br> if it's still causing trouble it really would be best to update from 2.4 to 3.8, then go to 5
   <br> (you have backups, i hope :P )
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   GillesMM: yes I am upgrading  on test machine
   jonnyb: :)
   GillesMM: I will try to apply 2to3 upgrade script before
   jonnyb: safest, i think (lots more hassle though, sorry)
   luciash: <u>chealer</u>: yes, i do
   <br> <u>chealer</u>: see them
   jonnyb: hi luciash - thanks for the new icons, nice! :)
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   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: hey, my pleasure
   GillesMM: hi luciash
   luciash: hi GillesMM
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: i completely ignored ie6 png transparency though, hopefully it doesn't matter ;)
   changi|away: <u>jonnyb</u>: hi
   jonnyb: it doesn't to me! :D
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   jonnyb: hi changi
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   changi: <u>jonnyb</u>: ready for RC ?
   jonnyb: i'm just on one little tweak to autosave (recommended by rodrigo) - should be ready in a few minutes
   <br> to stop it blocking the browser while it's saving
   chealer: thank you luciash
   <br> is there anything other than the Edit section icons setting that controls whether they show? I get neither the icons nor the icon to show the icons... in trunk.
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   changi: <u>jonnyb</u>: no problem i'll start at 9pm (GMT +1)
   jonnyb: oh wow, a late one!
   changi: in 1h :)
   jonnyb: thanks - i really should triple test this as it's so close to release...
   ricks99: draft news annoucement: http://tiki.org/upcoming%20news#Release_Candidate_for_Tiki_6_Now_Available if anyone wants to read/review/revise
   jonnyb: hi ricks99 - you're not featuring the nice new performance icon luciash made for you? :P
   <br> (included in "user interface" i guess)
   ricks99: haven't seen it yet... but am planning to use it as the logo for the final 6.0 release news item
   jonnyb: :)
   ricks99: sounds better to say we delayed the rc for "UI" instead of "new icon" :-)
   changi: <u>ricks99</u>: agree
   jonnyb: i suppose the main reason was for more stability and fixes that we found to do during the beta phase...
   changi: <u>ricks99</u>: what about spreadsheet ?
   ricks99: will highlight it for final 6.0. for the rc, i just want to have a basic 'this is why we're so late' explaination
   -: ricks99 thinks we've waited long enough for tiki6
   changi: "are reminded that this is a beta" maybe replace by release candidate
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   jonnyb: ok, that's the last for me (i hope!) - changi - could you update dev.t.o so rodrigo_sampaio (and everyone) can test it there? (r30524)
   <br> i tested in safari and firefox in wiki and wysiwyg modes - not IE yet...
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: i spotted some typos and "beta" text there, i will review
   jonnyb: bbs
   changi: <u>jonnyb</u>: done
   jonnyb: thanks changi
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   jonnyb: <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: are you about? i made the autosave ajax call async so it shouldn't block the browser now - could you try it on dev.t.o if you have a change (in the next hour - RC1 coming soon!)
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: edited, please review
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: change for british pounds ? ;)
   ricks99: where's the new icon luciash? ;-)
   rodrigo_sampaio: hi jonnyb
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: in pics/large/ ;)
   rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: I have the impression that is not working, I mean that it is still waiting for the ajax request to complete. But I can't be sure, the request is returning really fast now so it is not obvious if it is waiting for it to complete.
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: sorry, not very precise
   jonnyb: hmmm - just checked on dev in IE and it seems to work
   <br> <u>rodrigo_sampaio</u>: you can check if it's really autosaving by doing preview
   <br> by the way - in IE when you're not logged in the dev.t.o homage is about 2000 px wide :(
   rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: just a second, I'm testing a bit more
   jonnyb: have to go for a little while - back soon
   luciash: <u>jonnyb</u>: wow, u switched to windoze ?
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: c u later
   rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: I'm testing on my local machine and apparently the problem persists. I added an sleep(5); to the beginning to tiki-auto_save.php and then it is pretty obvious that when you move the focus out of the text area the browser is waiting for the ajax request to finish before "unlocking" the page.
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: let me know when you are back and I can give you more information about this
   ricks99: <u>Q</u>: when using jq for conditional display of tracker fields ina pretty tracker, do i simply put the jq().. anywhere on my template wiki page?
   rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: maybe just giving the user some feedback that something is happening (the page is being auto-saved) is enough
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: oh, i thought the draft page is not public :-?
   ricks99: no, it is
   rodrigo_sampaio: <u>jonnyb</u>: ops... browser cache
   <br> <u>jonnyb</u>: sorry, I had an old version of autosave.js due to browser cache. I confirm that you have fixed the problem. Thanks ;)
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: shouldn't it be visible only for the communications/admins team ?
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: yes
   ricks99: i guess, but i was hoping to get winder input if more open
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: this way it feels like all the bells'n'whistles are leaked too early ;)
   ricks99: @chealer: that "yes" is for my jq question?
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: yes :-)
   ricks99: tx
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: i think you need to put in jq block, not just "anywhere" on the page
   ricks99: but i can add the jq block anywere on the page. order is not important
   -: ricks99 thinks luciash may be right... making the upcoming new page 'private'
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: yep, order is not important
   jonnyb: thanks rodrigo_sampaio  - hope that hasn't upset anything else
   luciash: <u>ricks99</u>: imho it should be at least for registered, so google doesn't crawl it
   chealer: can anyone access http://ido.ath.cx/ ?
   luciash: nope, why
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: thanks. here that's the same as localhost, but the router won't forward from the outside it seems
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: can you ping/ resolve?
   luciash: ping works
   chealer: has anyone been able to set OpenWRT to let port 80 go to a machine in the NAT?
   <br> meh, my router won't allow rewriting a port number on the router to another one going to the PC
   jonnyb: ok, i have to go for real for a while (food!) will check in later and keep an eye on emails
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   chealer: can anyone access http://ido.ath.cx:8080/ ?
   luciash: yes
   chealer: <u>luciash</u>: yuhu, thank you.
   -: changi 2 minutes before starting RC
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   -: marclaporte cheers changi
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   changi: <u>marclaporte</u>: hi :)
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   changi: &gt;&gt; Copyrights updated: +1 contributor(s), +157 commit(s)
   <br> Changelog updated with 52 new commits (revision 30524 to 30421), excluding duplicates, merges and release-related commits
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   marclaporte: :-)
   GillesMM: hi marclaporte
   marclaporte: hi GillesMM!
   <br> I will be in Paris soon!
   GillesMM: when ?
   marclaporte: (but just at the airport for a few hours, so I can't come and see one or your shows)
   GillesMM: lol
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   Devilwct: ola
   luciash: hi
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   Devilwct|mobile: &gt;ping
   Sug4r`: pong
   Devilwct|mobile: wow i have a lot of lag :|
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   changi: job done.
   <br> have a good night
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   Tikiwiki|bot: Info: Release Candidate for Tiki 6 Now Available - http://info.tiki.org/article120-Release-Candidate-for-Tiki-6-Now-Available
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   chealer: well done
   Trebly: &lt;lphuberdeau&gt; Thanks, About yesterday, I forgot for a moment to refer to firebug. I found which css items to change (now the items of a category are presented as a list line by line - a sort options combo should be welcome). Nevertheless it is not so clean. Do exist a description of the css organization ?
   <br> Everybody : do something is programmed on "mobile display version" ?
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