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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30651 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] New module to show outstanding payments of current user | [00:16] |
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| ohertel | Hello! :) | [00:28] |
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| nkoth | no
hello | [00:29] |
| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30652 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-payment_outstanding.tpl: [MOD] use standard modules listing bulleting styles | [00:29] |
| nkoth | sorry, that "no" was wrong window | [00:29] |
| ohertel | That was quite some traffic on our servers today. ^^ | [00:29] |
| chealer | polom | [00:29] |
| ohertel | 1GB more than usual. | [00:30] |
| nkoth | I wonder what is the best way to deal with big releases like that (rather then having to need a big server all the time) | [00:30] |
| ricks99 | is it strickly a tiki issue? or hardware? | [00:30] |
| ohertel | We could use some static pages in front, not directly pointing into tiki.
I think it's a tiki issue. That traffic shouldnt bring down an i7-920 quadcore with 12GB of ram... There is sites on smaller machines with more traffic. | [00:31] |
| ricks99 | hm... info.t.o is a pretty tiny tiki (few features, few pages, etc) | [00:32] |
| ohertel | It's all the php compiling stuff, smarty maybe... enabling eAccellerator for caching helped to get the server back up.
I know eAccellerator has problems, so I will disable it again soonish,if the traffic has calmed down a bit. | [00:32] |
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| ricks99 | currenly all the performance options on info are 'on' | [00:34] |
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| ricks99 | should i turn on wiki page caching? will it make a difference | [00:35] |
| ohertel | I think a static page might help, plain html, checked into svn, synced like all 5 minutes or something, and that page could contain links to download on sourceforge, releasenotes on freshmeat, forums on tw.o, docs on docs. etc | [00:35] |
| nkoth__ | ohertel: how many users did we have hitting the site at the time? I think wiki page caching will help | [00:36] |
| ohertel | Then all the requests will split up to many servers... and we can cope way better with the load. | [00:36] |
| ricks99 | @nkoth: i'll turn on wiki page caching. any possible issues? | [00:36] |
| ohertel | nkoth: no idea. It was 1GB of additional data. Should parse the logs for a usercount. | [00:36] |
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| ohertel | I have no idea, but might help.
Hm, maybe enabling it only for the pages with the most hits might help. I guess most people only clicked 2-3 pages, and thats it... releasenotes, download link, and 1 or 2 more... | [00:37] |
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| ricks99 | theres only about 10 pages that are 'live' anyway... :-) | [00:38] |
| ohertel | ^^
And we could link to the freshmeat link for releasenotes, that might help a lot, too. | [00:38] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 turns on wiki page caching 1 hr on info | [00:40] |
| ohertel | That releasenote page we have in tiki is rather hard to read and split up in many other pages linked in. | [00:40] |
| ricks99 | y, but the installer links directly to the appropriate release note apge | [00:40] |
| ohertel | It's many headlines and stuff, rather long page. Don't know how others like releasenotes, but at least *I* like the key features listed in a SHORT and SIMPLE list, and for details something like the releasenotes text file we have in the tarball. ;)
Maybe we could drop the release notes in full length onto sourceforge or freshmeat? They can handle high load way better. ;) | [00:41] |
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| ricks99 | if i create a static html page, is it possible to have that as a fallback in case of *any* error or non-conenction? | [00:42] |
| ohertel | Don't think there is a fallback feature in apache. ;)
But maybe the 'access denied due to heavy load' feature could have a redirect to this page. Maybe we could show NO access denied thingy and ONLY show that static page then. | [00:44] |
| ricks99 | well, i turned on the "...due to heavy load" feature. so at least folks will get a meaningful message | [00:45] |
| ohertel | So people se tiki page by default, and on heavy load some will see the static via redirect.
Will do for tw.o, too. Hm, how time consuming is a memory check in php? Then we could fix the fetch_next_record loops by adding some memory check and only add next row to somevariable[] = ... when there is enough memory left yet. I still think that it's totally crazy to fetch more that a 100 entries from a table anyway. I would put in a hard limit ... ^^ Btw. the download image on tw.o is broken now. | [00:45] |
| chealer | yay. I just hope that feature works well | [00:54] |
| ohertel | which feature? :) | [00:54] |
| chealer | ohertel: I don't understand what you mean about fetch_next_record loops
ohertel: "...due to heavy load" | [00:55] |
| ohertel | The loops that get the record from the database. | [00:55] |
| chealer | ohertel: so what do you do if there's not enough memory? | [00:56] |
| ohertel | just stop and do NOT load any more data?
while (hasmorerecords) { getnextrowfromdatabase(); if (memoryisalmostgone) break; results[]=addtherow; } ;) ^--- pseudocode ;) Getting only a part of what we wanted to get is better than tiki breaking with a memory error. | [00:56] |
| GillesM | is ti possible to translate on line or do I need to modify languages.php ? | [00:58] |
| ohertel | Hm, I think if you store translation in database, then you can translate directly, somehow. Not sure though. never cared about translation stuff except de/language.php ;) | [00:59] |
| ricks99 | @GillesM: u can use the interactive translation feature online
see docs http://doc.tiki.org/Interactive+Translation | [00:59] |
| ohertel | Oh dear... Chrome was tons faster, thats why I switched from Firefox to Chrome. Right now Chrome is REALLY broken... | [01:01] |
| chealer | ohertel: I think it's better to fail with an error than to die. at least users can report something.
ohertel: are you going to the TikiFest? | [01:02] |
| ohertel | No time, probably. | [01:02] |
| chealer | ohertel: shame | [01:03] |
| ohertel | Yah, I'd like tiki to halt the loading from database and show a warning on top of the site,or something. Like "Tiki couldn't get all data from the database due to memory shortage. Handle data with care." or something. ;) | [01:04] |
| chealer | ohertel: users don't care about why it doesn't work. they just want to be told there was a problem, and ideally how to report it (if it's not automatic). if memory lacks during such a loop, it doesn't mean the loop is unreasonable, it means something somewhere took too much memory... | [01:07] |
| ohertel | yah
But they need to get warned that a list on the page might be incomplete. No more needed. | [01:07] |
| chealer | ohertel: you mean the request processing would continue? | [01:08] |
| ohertel | Yes, I think that would be a good idea. | [01:09] |
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| ohertel | Show the page, but add a small warning that data are incomplete. In most cases this might be a capped user list in a selection box. No one would care ...
Or capped list of all wiki pages ... we seem to have quite some code that gets and adds all pages/users to a list somewhere. Which is completely silly. And it doesnt do a simple 'get all names of the users' it's a 'get ALL userdata' ... 95% of those are not used for the final page to be shown to the user. We fixed some by just adding a LIMIT 100 or something... but that's not a real solution, it's a hack/workaround. | [01:09] |
| chealer | ohertel: loops aren't just for consultation. there are loops that read data to be used for an update or modification later. if the transaction has to be interrupted, it's better to break during a read than later, which could be during writing | [01:12] |
| ohertel | I know. | [01:13] |
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| chealer | so, that would be even more risky | [01:14] |
| ohertel | Another solution could be to just fix all the queries and only get the data really needed. And reduce the data, if the needed data are way too big. ;)
I do not need a complete userlist anywhere. | [01:14] |
| chealer | ohertel: right :-) | [01:14] |
| ohertel | What I need is a count() of the records, a page size, and <pagesize> number of entries to read. | [01:15] |
| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30653 10/trunk/templates/tiki-payment-single.tpl: [MOD] Make clear that credit cards are accepted through PayPal as well | [01:15] |
| ohertel | Maximum of pagesize can be 100. So all data gets split into 100 entry segments. ;)
For the loops you mentioned... there should be nothing that needs to read all entries into memory at the same time. get one, edit one, write it back. Assume each table might have a million entries. Well used tracker, huge user database ... tons of wiki pages ... | [01:15] |
| chealer | ohertel: not necessarily, you might be doing an intersection between two tables for example | [01:17] |
| ohertel | If you need the whole list in memory, you did something wrong.
Should the database handle that? Do large table operations on the database, not in php memory? | [01:17] |
| chealer | ohertel: ideally, but SQL isn't a programming language | [01:18] |
| ohertel | That's what database are for. And MySQL can get more memory than php.
And I am not really willing to raise the memory limit to above 48MB. I'd even like to move it back down to 32MB ... On info.tw.o it seems to 256MB, that's not a good idea. And you see, even that gets exhausted. Must be a real bad memory problem in tiki. I tried to raise memory limit on some of those errors we got... 256MB... error... and it even ate 512MB... so the used memory grows with available memory. So we can NOT kill the memory errors by raising the available php memory. restarted apache on tw.o to have a clean memory there. ^^ | [01:19] |
| nkoth | anyone here knows what happens when a Tiki Payment becomes "due" , if anything? | [01:23] |
| ohertel | going to bed. | [01:29] |
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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30654 10/trunk/templates/tiki-payment-list.tpl: [ENH] Usability - description of payment should link to it | [01:30] |
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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30656 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [NEW] Allow payments to be restricted to be seen only by user that is supposed to be pay it (common use case) | [02:57] |
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| thraxisp | are old tiki commit logs saved somewhere? | [03:24] |
| chealer | thraxisp: what do you want to do? | [03:26] |
| thraxisp | I'm fixing a cookie problem that I traced to a commit about a year ago. I want to see the original patch. | [03:27] |
| chealer | thraxisp: what else do you know about the commit? do you have a revision number? | [03:28] |
| thraxisp | yes, 19122 | [03:28] |
| chealer | thraxisp: see http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=revision&revision=19122 | [03:29] |
| thraxisp | thanks. | [03:32] |
| nkoth | thraxisp: as I thought it was to prevent multiple tikis on the same server from accessing each other
's things maybe changing t REQUEST_URI instead of PHP_SELF will solve it but I don't know if there is any security weakness with that - I will ask security team but if you only have 1 tiki on your server it should not matter to you > thraxisp | [03:40] |
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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30657 10/branches/6.x/templates/ (tiki-payment-list-past.tpl tiki-payment-list.tpl): [FIX] After cancelling payment item the listing still showed it in the outstanding or past listings. Patch includes [bp/r30654] : [ENH] Usability - description of payment should link to it | [04:09] |
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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r30658 10/branches/6.x/lib/payment/paymentlib.php: [FIX] Non payment admins were not able to cancel their own payments | [04:20] |
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| nightclaw | Hi there
i have a problem with setting the right time on my tiki installation i set the right timezone but the displayed time is trailing by 1 hour i set the date and time to "use site default to show time .. " | [10:56] |
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| nightclaw | noone any idea? | [11:44] |
| xavi | nightclaw: try changing then the time zone in "Admin home > general > Date and Time" to adapt it to your real time
I mean, that looks to me the easiest solution... | [11:52] |
| nightclaw | i did and it is the correct time zone | [11:52] |
| xavi | put it in +1 (or -1) time zone, to get the right time | [11:53] |
| nightclaw | changing the timezone in the admin backend does not do anything# | [11:53] |
| xavi | ok, looks like a bug then? open a bug report about it, I would say... http://dev.tiki.org | [11:53] |
| JoernOtt | nightclaw, what is the date/time set to on your server
(not the local client) | [11:59] |
| nightclaw | System time is GMT +1 CET
which is correct | [12:00] |
| JoernOtt | and in php.ini?
I once had it set wrong there and had some strange phenomenons because of that | [12:01] |
| nightclaw | do you know where to find it in php info?
ah default timezone is set to UTC | [12:02] |
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| chibaguy | polom
I wonder why anon can't see an image I just added to a file gallery at themes.t.o. Anon has tiki_p_download_files. | [12:14] |
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| chibaguy | hi ricks99 | [12:17] |
| ricks99 | hi gary | [12:18] |
| nightclaw | JoernOtt: thank you very much for pointing out this quite obvious misconfiguration :) | [12:18] |
| chibaguy | I added an image at themes.t.o and anon can't see it. anon has perm to download files, and the image isn't categorized. | [12:18] |
| JoernOtt | nightclaw: you're welcome, this did cost me some time too | [12:19] |
| nightclaw | but this seems to be a bug. i should be able to change the timezone in tiki even thought a wrong/no timezone is set in php | [12:20] |
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| ricks99 | anyone know... is there a way to grab a category name and description and put it into a wiki page? any global variable or anything? | [13:06] |
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| RavenC | polom | [13:21] |
| ricks99 | Hi RavenC | [13:22] |
| RavenC | Morning Ricks! | [13:24] |
| chibaguy | I wonder why (when not logged in - to themes.t.o) I can see a file gallery and see the thumbnails, but can't access the full-size images.
I get the error: you are not logged in. | [13:26] |
| ricks99 | perm? | [13:27] |
| chibaguy | I thought that would be the problem, though previously anon could see the files.
but tiki_p_download_files is set already. | [13:28] |
| ricks99 | some new perm in 6 maybe? | [13:29] |
| chibaguy | seems like it, though I can't find it in the perms list. | [13:29] |
| ricks99 | what's the difference in the URLs? | [13:30] |
| chibaguy | I tried the short version - display112 - and the full version - tiki-download_file.php?fileId=112&display
Both won't work. But older files can be seen by anon. | [13:33] |
| ricks99 | anything "special" about the files? are they locked? max download? etc? | [13:34] |
| sylvieg | do we have account must be validated after n incorrect passwords? | [13:34] |
| chibaguy | ricks99, no, I don't think so. It was just a straightforward upload of a very small image file. | [13:34] |
| ricks99 | @sylvieg: y, on admin: login | [13:35] |
| sylvieg | tkx ricks99 - I thought so but can not find it .. .me needs coffee | [13:38] |
| chealer | polom | [13:38] |
| chibaguy | hi chealer | [13:39] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg found it - in logiun _ I was looking in password | [13:41] |
| chealer | hi chibaguy
chealer is catsitting at Marc's while he's away | [13:41] |
| chibaguy | chealer, I hope they don't escape. ;-) | [13:44] |
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| chealer | chibaguy: of course not, I give them bugs to hunt | [13:49] |
| RavenC | Tracker Kittahs .... :) | [13:50] |
| chealer | unfortunately they always come on the keyboard too | [13:51] |
| chibaguy | we'll need to watch your commits closely now ;-) | [13:53] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | hi chealer
chealer: how the cats are behaving? :) | [13:57] |
| chibaguy | ricks99, I uploaded the image to a different file gallery and now it's visible to anon. But I don't see (yet) any config difference in the galleries. | [13:59] |
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| chibaguy | heh | [13:59] |
| chealer | rodrigo_sampaio: there's still regular fighting (Reika is not here a bit because of that) :-(
chibaguy: hehehe :-) | [14:00] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | chealer: you know anything about openid auth and tiki? i saw you made a few commits to the code. i'm wondering if openid is not present in the top login for some specific reason or if it is just that no one ever did it. same thing for removing the an openid account associated with a tiki account
chealer: so reika is still afraid of the other cat :( | [14:00] |
| chealer | rodrigo_sampaio: yes, she would still be afraid I think
rodrigo_sampaio: I do. I don't think there's any reason OpenID wouldn't be in the top login. | [14:04] |
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| chealer | same thing with removal of association (which would be a nice thing, preventing me from having to do that in the database when testing!)
hi jonnyb! | [14:05] |
| jonnyb | polom | [14:05] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | hi jonnyb | [14:08] |
| jonnyb | hi all - sounds like it's been a busy week for tiki (typical when i'm on other stuff!) | [14:09] |
| RavenC | polom Johnnyb | [14:12] |
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| mikebeary | Anyone know what that feature is that gives users points based on how much they contribute? | [14:24] |
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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30659 10/branches/6.x/lang/pt-br/language.php: typo | [14:28] |
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| chibaguy | Heh, the mouseover on user module edit icons at tiki.org say "Bearbeiten".
I guess it's gently pushing us to learn other languages, which is good. ;-) | [14:38] |
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| changi | polom | [14:48] |
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| mikebeary | Can someone tell me how to show my score feature now that I've turned it on?
I want the score to show on the main page | [14:52] |
| chibaguy | mikebeary, did you check the docs about that? I haven't looked at the score feature for a long time. | [14:54] |
| ricks99 | @mikebeary: i believe there is a "top users" module. you can add this to the home page
it ranks users by score | [14:54] |
| mikebeary | Yes and it doesn't make sense to me. Is it something to do with "creating new event"?
How do I add the top users module? I've never added a module before | [14:55] |
| ricks99 | example of the top users module is in docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Score
to add a modules, see docs, too http://doc.tiki.org/module | [14:56] |
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| mikebeary | Wow
Got it. Thanks dude | [14:57] |
| ricks99 | glad to help. docs are quite useful :-) | [14:58] |
| mikebeary | How come the active poll I created isn't available to add to a page?
My dropdown list under "add poll to pages" isn't populated | [15:10] |
| ricks99 | is the poll publish date in the future? | [15:12] |
| mikebeary | Yes. Buy I
But I changed it and it's still not populating | [15:14] |
| ricks99 | are you trying to add a poll to a page as a *ranking* or just a regular poll? | [15:16] |
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| mikebeary | I thi | [15:18] |
| jonnyb | rodrigo_sampaio: can you have a look at r30660 pls? there was a conflict in lib/importer/tikiimporter.php - hope i resolved it ok | [15:18] |
| mikebeary | Think as a reg poll
jonnyb: want to see? Collegecollab.org | [15:18] |
| jonnyb | see what? (sorry, not been following - fire-fighting currently) | [15:20] |
| ricks99 | @mikeberry: and you're unable to add the poll to a page using the poll plugin? | [15:20] |
| mikebeary | I created the poll, activated it, set publish date to yesterday, and when I click on add poll to pages, no polls are available in the dropdown menu
This is the first poll I'm making | [15:21] |
| Trebly | !help | [15:22] |
| ricks99 | "add poll to page" ... are you trying to put the poll in a *module* or a wiki page? | [15:22] |
| Tikiwiki|bot | You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . | [15:22] |
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| mikebeary | I'm going to admin/polls. Not sure, but I just want the poll to show on the homepage | [15:23] |
| ricks99 | you need to use the poll plugin to add to the home page
you might fnd the beginner's guide useful: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Polls+in+Wiki+Pages | [15:23] |
| mikebeary | I have an honors presentation in two hours and I want to show a poll
Can you Quickly tell me how to add the plugin? It's not in the list of modules Going to your link thanks | [15:24] |
| ricks99 | if you want to add it to a wiki page (not a module) use the poll plugin
see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/pluginpoll | [15:26] |
| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30660 10/trunk/ (74 files in 60 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30590 to 30659 | [15:26] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | jonnyb: its ok, thanks | [15:27] |
| jonnyb | super, thanks | [15:28] |
| ricks99 | ping chibaguy: css question for you... | [15:28] |
| mikebeary | Got it! | [15:28] |
| chibaguy | hi ricks99 | [15:29] |
| ricks99 | chibaguy: when using a background image with repeat-y, is there no way to specify vertical start position? repeat-y seems to override y value of background-position. But cannot find any verication of this in the css spec. | [15:30] |
| chibaguy | I don't recall offhand, although I've had the same problem before. | [15:31] |
| ricks99 | how'd you solve it? | [15:32] |
| mikebeary | I found in the tiki for smarties the command you type when you edit the wiki page where you want the poll | [15:33] |
| chibaguy | ricks99, I don't recall, but anyway, I just tried this and it works: background-image:url('gradient2.png');background-repeat: repeat-x; background-position: 0 20px;
} so the image starts 20px down from the top margin and repeats horizontally. | [15:34] |
| changi|berlin | changi|berlin damned BING | [15:35] |
| ricks99 | y. if you repeat-x, you can specify a y position. but want to repeat-y *and* specify a vertical position
want to repeat vertically, but have a margin at the top, say 20px whitespace before the tiling starts | [15:35] |
| chibaguy | hmm, yeah, that may not be possible. | [15:35] |
| ricks99 | can tweak with a negative margin for the container, then pad everything else. but that seems... wrong :( | [15:36] |
| chibaguy | Well, this works: background-image:url('gradient2.png');background-repeat: repeat-y; background-position: 0 20px;}
starts 20px down and repeats downward. | [15:36] |
| ricks99 | hm... what browser? | [15:36] |
| chibaguy | opera | [15:37] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 goes to fire up opera... 'cause ff doesnt seem to work it properly
hm.. looks like a browser-specific implementation | [15:38] |
| chibaguy | well, maybe you'll need another solution if not all browsers support that. | [15:38] |
| ricks99 | k. tx for the help. jus wasnt sure if the spec said it was possible or not. i didnt see antytihg either way | [15:38] |
| chibaguy | maybe a wide border on the top and then negative margin to pull the content up into it, or something. | [15:39] |
| ricks99 | yeah. thats what i'm going to have to do. | [15:39] |
| chibaguy | css: part art, part science, part dart game | [15:39] |
| ricks99 | +1 | [15:40] |
| jonnyb | ricks99 & chibaguy - check out http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_background-position_pixel | [15:41] |
| ricks99 | y. was there. in ff, adding repeat-y nulls the y position | [15:41] |
| jonnyb | say: 'Note: For this to work in Firefox and Opera, the background-attachment property must be set to "fixed".' | [15:41] |
| chibaguy | hee hee, jonnyb, that's where I was trying the backgrounds that I quoted the code for above | [15:42] |
| ricks99 | in my ff, adding repeat-y causes the smile to fill vertically (instead of a 100px margin)
think it is a browser-issue | [15:42] |
| chibaguy | (or anyway another page at that site) | [15:42] |
| jonnyb | did you try background-attachment:fixed? | [15:43] |
| ricks99 | y | [15:43] |
| chibaguy | bbl | [15:43] |
| ricks99 | r u using ff?
both FF and IE ignore the 100px y margin when repeat-y (for me) | [15:43] |
| ricks99 likes the Tiki Newsletter icon. Kudos to whomever created it. | [15:49] | |
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| chibaguy | thanks, ricks99
(re newsletter icon) | [15:59] |
| ricks99 | y, very nice | [16:04] |
| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r30662 10/branches/6.x/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation | [16:05] |
| chibaguy | it's an open source image that I just adapted a bit with the tiki logo. | [16:07] |
| openclipart.org
g'night. | [16:14] | |
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| changi|berlin | jonnyb: hi, does this mean something to you : flip_class('postit','hidden','hidden') | [16:30] |
| jonnyb | hi changi|berlin how's the 'fest?
flip_class doesn't look familiar to me - it's in tiki? brb | [16:31] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: yes it's on themes.tiki.org, using for the top remarksbox diplaying that we are in beta
2 weeks ago, when you click the cross, this message was gone, but now stay jonnyb: as it's javascript, i'm lost jonnyb: tikifest is fine :), a little bit cold. | [16:33] |
| jonnyb | oh yes, i saw that
i'm guessing it was some custom stuff luci did, he's been wanting that feature on remarksboxes for years :P i'm seeing "Plugin jq cannot be executed" on themes.t.o - looks like something's broken | [16:36] |
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| changi|berlin | jonnyb: any idea ? | [16:50] |
| jonnyb | on what exactly changi|berlin ? (bit snowed under currently) | [16:51] |
| changi|berlin | why plugin JQ cannot be executed ? | [16:55] |
| jonnyb | i think it was the JS detection failing - can't get it again and it didn't happen in firefox
do you see it? | [16:56] |
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| CIA-75 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30664 10/trunk/tiki-jsplugin.php: [FIX] Forcing expires on plugin js | [17:01] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: no, but don't know how to fix this unremovable remarksbox | [17:08] |
| jonnyb | sorry - i didn't set it up - presumably it's some custom code in l&f prefs? | [17:09] |
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| changi|berlin | jonnyb: yes it is | [17:12] |
| jonnyb | found it - can't find out who did it? i don't think flip_class is in tiki | [17:13] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: ok, i think it's maybe ricks ? | [17:15] |
| jonnyb | are we going to keep (at least some of) the *.t.o sites on 6.x up to date and continue the dogfooding? (i think we should) | [17:16] |
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| jonnyb | changi|berlin: found flip_class - look like it should work... | [17:35] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: i think it's a bug no ? | [17:36] |
| jonnyb | i'm sure i've seen it working on one of the t.o sites | [17:36] |
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| jonnyb | hi ricks99 - is the dogfooding "postit" note on themes.t.o one of yours? | [17:48] |
| ricks99 | not pe se -- i simply moved it. it was floating in the left col. i moved it to center col
not sure who originally added it | [17:49] |
| jonnyb | it seemed to be bothering changi|berlin ;)
the close icon doesn't work | [17:49] |
| ricks99 | well. considering that it is no longer running the beta, i guess we can remove it
i already removed the one on info.t.o | [17:49] |
| jonnyb | ah, i thought it worked somewhere
i think we should run these sites on 6.x until 6.1 (even after maybe on proposals/6.x when it exists) it's more exciting! :D | [17:50] |
| ricks99 | maybe... imho though, info (which is the primary public face) should b rock sold stable | [17:51] |
| thraxisp | Hi. I ran into bug 2567 when upgrading from tw3.2 to 6.0. I have a patch based on the current SVN and commit access (from ages ago). What is the best process to commit? | [17:52] |
| jonnyb | ricks99: as should 6.x (hopefully), but i know what you mean
hi thraxisp - commit in branches/6.x if you're happy with it - mail it to the devels list as a patch (or use pastebin here) if you'd like someone to have a look at it first | [17:52] |
| thraxisp | Thanks. The patch is at http://pastebin.ca/1989269
Do I need to submit it to the trunk as well? | [17:57] |
| jonnyb | no, we're "automatically" merging from 6.x to trunk until 6.1 is released (keeps the overheads down) | [17:58] |
| thraxisp | ok | [17:59] |
| jonnyb | was it you discussing this on the devels list recently? | [17:59] |
| thraxisp | yes. I was here discussing it with nkoth yesterday as well. | [17:59] |
| jonnyb | aha - thought so
i'm a bit nervous about these kind of changes - servers can be so picky :) but it looks good to me - happy committing! | [18:00] |
| thraxisp | thx | [18:01] |
| jonnyb | yay - changi|berlin i fixed the postit on themes.t.o i think (the div id what wrong)
hmm, maybe not - it comes back :( | [18:06] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 thinks the text should be changed, too | [18:07] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb thinks there are probably more pressing issues for him - like the tikidate out of memory thing | [18:09] |
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| SEWilco2 | Doc for "Group Watch" phrased as if notification is sent only when a Watch is defined. I suspect notifications are also sent when the watched object is modified. http://doc.tiki.org/Group+Watches | [18:25] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: nice try :) | [18:37] |
| jonnyb | :P | [18:38] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: for me it's working now
jonnyb: you're the best | [18:40] |
| jonnyb | coo, great! (wonder why it didn't for me?) | [18:40] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: chrome 7 for me | [18:41] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb> Did you receive my mail, I wish to meet the team in London, I need the informations | [18:41] |
| changi|berlin | jonnyb: ff too | [18:41] |
| jonnyb | hi Trebly - yes, i replied on tiki.org (the email version to you bounced)
not much help though i'm afraid have no plans yet it as i thought it would just be 3 of us | [18:42] |
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| Trebly | <jonnyb> I just came back and look first at the chat. I just seen your answer. I look at the mailbox.I send to you an answer by mail into a short while. | [18:53] |
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| jonnyb | Trebly: see pm | [18:55] |
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| chealer | wow, the Subscribe to Tiki Newsletters! module on tiki.org is cool :-) | [19:01] |
| jonnyb | lphuberdeau: you about?
hi chealer - do you know anything about plugin approval? (just wondering about these "Unknown" ones - i think they should just be automatically removed) | [19:01] |
| chealer | jonnyb: not much, except I wish it was automatical for admins
(and I noticed that seemed to work in 4 today) | [19:03] |
| jonnyb | don't we all :P
curious | [19:04] |
| chealer | jonnyb: what do you mean by "Unknown" ones? | [19:04] |
| jonnyb | i get lots of them listed as Location: Unknown | [19:05] |
| ricks99 | unknown just means not from a wiki page | [19:05] |
| chealer | jonnyb: regarding the JQ plugin, is there any reason to filter the body's content? would it be problematic to remove the filter? | [19:05] |
| ricks99 | could be in a module | [19:05] |
| chealer | jonnyb: sorry, no idea
ah | [19:05] |
| jonnyb | i think it's an upgrade bug - the fingerprint seems to have changed | [19:05] |
| ricks99 | or from a dynamic content block, for example | [19:06] |
| jonnyb | doesn't look like it ricks99 - you not seen this?
might be a charset thing | [19:06] |
| ricks99 | ? thought u were talking about "unknown" items on tiki-plugins.php | [19:07] |
| jonnyb | yes, i am | [19:07] |
| ricks99 | sorry. what was the question?
ricks99 multitasking and coffee pot is empty :( | [19:07] |
| jonnyb | each one has a fingerprint generated when edited which seems quite fragile
should i just get rid of the unknown ones automatically? | [19:08] |
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| ricks99_ | sorry about that
the fingerprint is necessary to know if the content of the plugin has changed, no? of course, i'm not quite sure what good the finger print is to an end-user anyway it is jut a meaningless hash would rather see when it was added/last modififed (in addition to who added it) | [19:09] |
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| ricks99_ | cls | [19:13] |
| changi|berlin | clear
oups wrong tab | [19:14] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb> It's Ok for my mail. It had been a "lapsus scriptum", a miswritten because of my site teawik which uses abbreviation is for some names twk... | [19:15] |
| jonnyb | Trebly: so did you email me? | [19:17] |
| Trebly | <not yet> I am working on a computer restart, I need fiftteen minutes and the time to redact the answer. | [19:19] |
| jonnyb | looks like plugin approval is broken in 6.x :( | [19:21] |
| ricks99_ | works for me in 6.0 | [19:21] |
| jonnyb | i'm getting them all showing as "unknown" | [19:21] |
| ricks99_ | are they on wiki pages? | [19:22] |
| jonnyb | yup - HomePage | [19:22] |
| chealer | rodrigo_sampaio1: good job with the login/openid :-) | [19:23] |
| jonnyb | might be a wysiwyg problem - looks like the preview views count as needing approval or something | [19:23] |
| ricks99_ | ah..
ricks99_ doesnt trust wysiwyg... yet | [19:23] |
| jonnyb | i have lots of these on a 5.x site though - no wysiwyg
seems when a page is previewed it generates an unknown approval item... i'm digging | [19:24] |
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| TJSwan | I have a problem with my uploaded pdfs, can someone help please? | [19:59] |
| ricks99_ | what is the problem TJSwan? | [20:01] |
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| TJSwan | after upload, the pdfs display blank.
local copies still work fine | [20:02] |
| ricks99 | if you download from tiki, the copy works? | [20:03] |
| TJSwan | when the link is clicked, reader displays a blank page. the file appears to open fine.
but all pages are blank | [20:03] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r30673 10/trim/ (10 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] From tikiwiki to tiki | [20:04] |
| ricks99 | if u download the file (not opening inside the browser) is the file ok? | [20:04] |
| TJSwan | no, they are blank | [20:05] |
| ricks99 | what is your tiki version? | [20:06] |
| TJSwan | 5.3 | [20:06] |
| ricks99 | could be the db encoding. are you using the file gallery to store the pdfs? | [20:06] |
| TJSwan | yes i am | [20:07] |
| ricks99 | storing in the DB or directory? | [20:07] |
| TJSwan | a directory
i,m sorry, i am using 5.2 | [20:07] |
| ricks99 | and you're storing in the file directory -- not the db? | [20:08] |
| TJSwan | I created a file gallery. I am looking at the admin page and do not see the setting you are asking for. | [20:10] |
| ricks99 | on Admin: File gallery, there is an otpion to store files in the db or a file directory | [20:10] |
| TJSwan | AH! it says database | [20:11] |
| ricks99 | k. this is known issue if your db uses the incorrect charset
see relnotes and docs for details easiest workaround is to use file dirctory instead of db | [20:11] |
| TJSwan | ok, will look again in notes and docs thanks and sorry to bother you! | [20:13] |
| ricks99 | no problem. | [20:13] |
| CIA-79 | tikiwiki: 03aproulx * r30674 10/branches/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: Correction | [20:15] |
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| jonnyb | ok, bye all - more over the weekend | [20:36] |
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| rodrigo_sampaio1 | chealer: thanks :) | [20:37] |
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| mikebeary | I have a question.... When assigning groups to modules, do I need to assign any groups higher than registered, or are do higher levels have all the authority and permissions conferred from the registered group? | [20:41] |
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| mikebeary | If I want every registered user to see the module, then i don't need to add subadmins and admins separately, right? | [20:43] |
| chealer | changi|berlin: there is no need to tag commits [MOD] if they don't cause a modification of behavior | [20:44] |
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| rick_ | Does anyone know? Is there an easy way to test if the user belongs to a specific group, from within a TPL?
I can test if someone is logged in by using {if $user}... and I can test if a page is in a specific category with {if in_array(2, $objectCategoryIds)}.... | [21:33] |
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| rick_ | but how to check if the current user in a specific category?
From within a Tiki Smarty TPL file, I need to show different content for different users, based on their Group. anyone online? | [21:34] |
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| TJSwan | I am working with a new site, where the pdf files display as blank. I understand this is an issue with having the dtatbase store the files and I am attempting to change to a directory to staore uploaded files. I have made the change in gallery admin and save the change using the file directory of /files. when attempting to use the move files to directory button or when trying to upload files
i get an error stating unable to write file or unable to read file. I have looked on tiki for smarties and changed the directory properties in filezilla to read as shown in the help, but still no luck. am I using the wrong path? or have I done something else wrong? | [21:54] |
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| TJSwan | I am working with a new site, where the pdf files display as blank. I understand this is an issue with having the datatbase store the files and I am attempting to change to a directory to store uploaded files. I have made the change in gallery admin and saved the change using the file directory of /files. when attempting to use the move files to directory button or when trying to upload
files i get an error stating unable to write file or unable to read file. I have looked on tiki for smarties and changed the directory properties in filezilla to read as shown in the help, but still no luck. am I using the wrong path? or have I done something else wrong? | [21:58] |
| sylvieg | the permissions of this directory must be read write by apache (or by all user) | [22:07] |
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| TJSwan | ok, does all user present a security problem? | [22:09] |
| sylvieg | yes but some hosting does not let do otherwise
otherwise the diorectory must be outside the webaccessible urls | [22:10] |
| TJSwan | ah, ok thanks. I will try to use cpanel to set the attributes. the only ones offered by filezilla are owner group and public | [22:11] |
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