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luciashpolom
luciash greets amette and other wikifesters
luciash listening to the http://en.justin.tv/blogrebellen from the wikifest bln 		[00:52]
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chealerricks99: well I'm not sure that's before anyone changed anything. it's quite a coincidence that your mail comes the day after my commit. [02:08]
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Jana_Anybody know how to set up blogging with MacJournal? [04:05]
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pvfaV6 - calendar event time issues - when saving event, time immediately decreases 5 hours.. - I am in EST, 5 hours behind UTC.. server set to EST.. General tiki settings set to EST and always use system time, not users... any thoughts? [04:24]
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fabriciusPolom
greetz from TikiFest Berlin
heading for bed now 		[04:29]
See pictures here: http://wikifestbln.org/file4
bye bye, c ya 		[04:35]
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Tikiwiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3651 - - Edit blogs : the size of the panel is automatically smaller than the text width.... - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3651 [11:15]
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changi|berlinlphuberdeau: ping :) [13:50]
lphuberdeaupong [13:50]
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jonnyb_polom [13:55]
changi|berlinjonnyb_: hi [13:55]
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jonnyb_hi changi|berlin - live.t.o doesn't seem to be loading - are you on bbb there? [13:56]
changi|berlinnot at the moment [13:56]
jonnyb_ok, i'll leave the server alone then :P [13:56]
changi|berlinjonnyb_: yes please, otherwise oliver will cry a little bit. [13:57]
jonnyb_:)
how's the 'fest going? 		[13:57]
changi|berlinjonnyb_: we are now talking about TikiSuite
jonnyb_: marc is doing a pretty good job 		[13:58]
jonnyb_go Marc, go! [13:59]
changi|berlinjonnyb_: when do you plan to release the 6.1 ?
jonnyb_: can i do some quality stuff before ? 		[13:59]
jonnyb_meanwhile i've just found a very chewy conflict in tikilib (that i caused luckily, so should be able to fix)
yes, i noticed quality fixes going into trunk, but on new files i think
any other ones should go into 6.x (as long as they're safe ;) ) 		[13:59]
changi|berlinjonnyb_: yes for the moment, because i wanted to discuss with you if can work on branches/-.x [14:00]
jonnyb_just 6.x [14:00]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30693 10/trunk/lib/bigbluebuttonlib.php: [ENH] Avoid checking the BBB version multiple times, identified by andi from dokuwiki [14:06]
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fabriciuspolom [14:26]
jonnyb_hi fabricius [14:27]
fabriciustiki.org seems to be down, tiki.org/live conference room seems to be down since yesterday evening
hi jonnyb_ 		[14:27]
jonnyb_yes, i spotted that - saw LPH made a fix in trunk to do with bbb - maybe that's connected?
are you at the fest? 		[14:28]
fabriciusyes, sure
still the audio is a problem - one hand the hardwar, where we had a bit of a better situation at BLN, and still the software
we talked about that yesterday evening 		[14:29]
jonnyb_it's always a problem and sort of gets in the way for the people who are actually there
wasn't too bad in NY though, best so far i thought 		[14:30]
fabriciuswe need at least a reliable audiostream, that we should test and proove between the Fests - than a simple but good set of audio devices feeding the stream [14:32]
jonnyb_it usually ends up with skype being easiest, sadly [14:33]
fabriciusat NY Fest in the end I just could communicate with Marc via Skype - bbb seemed to be better, but still not good enough, to really be able to take part online [14:33]
jonnyb_my bro-in-law uses TeamSpeak for his gaming - he always says it's rock-solid
not open though, afaik 		[14:33]
fabriciusyes - just was mentioned some minutes ago
and you need an account and stuff or a software - isn´t it? - never really used it 		[14:34]
jonnyb_yes, you need a server [14:37]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30694 10/trunk/ (19 files in 12 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30659 to 30692
tikiwiki: Manually merged conflicts from r30691 on 6.x and r30308 on trunk
tikiwiki: (N.B. Steer clear of modifying parse_first() in 6.x any more if possible) 		[14:37]
jonnyb_i'm sure i did find an OSS version of teamspeak a while ago...
aha, yes - mumble: http://mumble.sourceforge.net
but i tihnk we're pretty embedded with bbb, so should help them get that working, i guess... 		[14:38]
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jcyrisseis Mindmap plugin in v 6 release?
I am having problems with all of my plugins since upgrade to v 6 		[15:57]
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jonnyb_hi jcyrisse - not sure, i don't think it's been removed - wasn't it always a thing you had to install as an extra somehow?
whay other plugins are causing trouble?
whay/what 		[16:08]
jcyrissewell...doing that now...reinstalling...again...not sure...i am missing something somewhere :( [16:09]
jonnyb_did you merge 6 into your old tiki?
best to do a clean upload of the new one and add in the customisations by hand (dull, but safest) 		[16:09]
jcyrisseno...i did a clean install [16:10]
jonnyb_good - and then added in customised themes etc [16:10]
jcyrissethink i am just missing some of the template files and plugin file
i will know in a couple minutes 		[16:10]
jonnyb_you using ftp? [16:11]
jcyrisseyes
was missing the wikiplugin file and template file
checking to see if this fixed the problem
well, still not working as it did previously....
grrr 		[16:13]
jonnyb_on http://doc.tiki.org/MindMap it says some instructions will appear as to how to install the 3rd party bit, but where? [16:20]
jcyrissewell, i redownloaded it from Soundforge [16:21]
jonnyb_i turned the feature on but can't see any change [16:21]
jcyrisseappears to not be working as it did [16:23]
jonnyb_seems to do something now for me (after adding visorFreemind.swf)
on tiki-mindmap.php 		[16:26]
jcyrissedo you see mindmap plugin listed in the plugin area when editing a page?
so, i must not have the visorFreemind.swf uploaded to the correct area. Where do you have it?
ah...i see...it should be in files/
let me try that
nope. 		[16:29]
jonnyb_jcyrisse: what about on tiki-mindmap.php ? [16:49]
jcyrisseok...here is the deal...at least I think :)
the instructions for where to put the files are not very good...in fact...just wrong 		[16:50]
jonnyb_oh? worked for me (put it in /files) [16:50]
jcyrisseso, i moved files around and got it working...finally. still not seeing the plugin though when editing pages [16:51]
jonnyb_i don't see a mindmap plugin listed on tiki-admin.php?page=features [16:51]
jcyrissewell, that works for whole site mindmap
there is a mindmap feature 		[16:51]
jonnyb_that needs installing too according to http://doc.tiki.org/Mod+mindmap
you can probably copy it (them?) from your old tiki i guess
looks like a php and a tpl at least 		[16:51]
jcyrissewell, i did. and moved things around...it is now viewing in the page
yes...not sure where the php is to be located 		[16:53]
jonnyb_flush the cache?
in lib/wiki-plugins/ 		[16:53]
jcyrisseah...k...it is there [16:54]
chealer"We are experience unusually high traffic. Please check back in a few minutes, or visit http://tiki.org/Home"
the English is a little rough 		[16:55]
jonnyb_indeed - hi chealer [16:56]
chealerhi jonnyb_
I fixed it on info.tiki.org, which is where I got it 		[16:57]
jcyrissejonnyb_: http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-index.php?page=Bethesda+2001
jonnyb_: this instead http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-index.php?page=Bethesda%202001&pagenum=2#TBS_2001_MindMaps 		[16:57]
jonnyb_jcyrisse: sorry, i don't follow [17:01]
jcyrissejonnyb_: just an example of it working in a wikipage using plugin [17:02]
jonnyb_ok, yes the 2nd one seemed to have a mindmap on it [17:02]
jcyrisseit is the wysiwyg editor that the plugin doesnt appear to popup so you can edit it [17:04]
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jcyrisseit is listed, but plugin popup looks like maybe broken? because cant edit it under wysiwyg [17:06]
jonnyb_hmmm - sounds like it, sorry (i got most of them working! ;) )
i should get it working though as i have a client that likes mindmaps... 		[17:07]
jcyrisseyeah....but i cant find it listed on the activate plugin page
so, something missing somewhere 		[17:08]
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jonnyb_it might be a cache thing - try clearing, logging out and in etc [17:11]
jcyrissek [17:11]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30695 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_include_features.tpl: [MOD] admin features: Move wysiwyg into "new" section. Alphabetize experimental, new and interface sections. TODO: general as well? [17:15]
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30696 10/branches/6.x/files/: [SVN] ignore * in /files [17:17]
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30697 10/branches/6.x/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [ENH] autosave: Expose JS code to remove_save to smarty for links that don't submit the form. Usage to come. [17:19]
coaboahi all. Tikifest Berlin was realy inspiring. I can not connetct to live.tiki.org (no room) Is big blue button disabled or is there another server?
identify
;-) 		[17:20]
jcyrissei have been trying all weekend :(...no luck [17:21]
coaboaoh, hoped they managed it inbetween. The place is anyhow way tooo dark fo video [17:23]
luciashpolom [17:24]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30698 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: [ENH] calendar: Deploy {textarea} in item edit form (fixes toolbar, adds autosave and lost edit warning). [17:24]
luciashcoaboa: there are some recorded from the yesterday's afterparty [17:24]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30699 10/branches/6.x/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php: [FIX] calendar: Redirect to calendar page on edit cancel and add $auto_query_args. [17:25]
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jcyrisseso, getting some weird error messages when using shoutbox to post to twitter...it gets posted to twitter, but an error message pops up...where do i post the error message? [17:28]
coaboaluciah: I had too go early as I was with my family at c-base. where can I watch those recording?
tv.tikiorg? 		[17:29]
luciashcoaboa: http://en.justin.tv/blogrebellen [17:30]
jcyrisseis there another area to post the error message instead of this channel? [17:31]
luciashjcyrisse: try http://post-it.net [17:31]
jcyrissei get a "cant find server" message [17:34]
luciashhmm
oops, sorry, i meant paste-it
:)
luciash had only one coffee today 		[17:35]
jcyrisseheh...i understand that....ok...pasted the error message received
k...still havent resolved my mindmap wiki plugin issues :( 		[17:36]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30700 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: [FIX] calendar: return false on all onclick JS [17:48]
jonnyb_jcyrisse: where did you put the files? [17:48]
jcyrisselib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mindmap.php
templates/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mindmap.tpl
lib/mindmap/wikiplugin-mindmap.mm
lib/mindmap/visorFreemind.swf
lib/mindmap/freemindbrowser.jar
lib/mindmap/index.php 		[17:48]
jonnyb_do oyu have a visorFreemind.swf in /files? [17:49]
jcyrisseyes...and copied it there as well
Tikiwiki mod lists that file though in lib/mindmap
and last modified is in 2006
i havent found anything more recent
so, functionally, the display in the pages works 		[17:52]
luciashjcyrisse: u should paste the link of the paste here so we can eventually see the error message [17:53]
jcyrisseah..kk
luciash: http://paste-it.net/public/w1fa761/ 		[17:54]
luciashjcyrisse: is your db uptodate ? [17:55]
jcyrissejonnyb_: so, i see mindmap listed under features, but do not see it listed under plugins [17:56]
luciashno message telling you that you should go to tiki-installer.php on the Admin panel appearing ? [17:56]
jcyrisseluciash: it should be...i just upgraded...let me double check [17:56]
luciashsorry, tiki-install.php [17:57]
jonnyb_if you type (or paste) the plugin source into a wiki page does it work?
what version did you update to 6 from? 		[17:57]
jcyrissejonnyb_: yes, it works
jonnyb_: 5.3...clean folders, upgraded db 		[17:57]
jonnyb_and it appeared on the plugin lists there? (in help and admin/text) [17:58]
jcyrissejonnyb_: it does not appear listed on plugin list to activate/deactivate from admin area. Appears in wysiwyg editor, plugin helper, but appears incorrect....just text...no plugin icon...doesnt look like others, and it doesnt popup a tikiplugin editor..l.
luciash: ok...it says reset or upgrade...guess i will do that...oops 		[18:00]
jonnyb_looks like the plugin needs updating :( [18:03]
jcyrisseluciash: nothing in yellow to say upgrade. i redid it, but still says same thing...Tiki version 6.0 reset or upgrade your database button
jonnyb_: well, that is what i was finally coming up with. heck, i would do that myself if i knew what i was doing 		[18:04]
jonnyb_adding it to my "fix it one day" list :P [18:06]
jcyrissejonnyb_: heh, well, i am game to look into it. i can look...and then run very quickly [18:07]
jonnyb_that would be good - are you on the devels list? [18:07]
jcyrissejonnyb_: no...i am a self taught hacker wannabe
luciash: got same error. i have it set to sitewide twitter...or such...dont know if that means anything 		[18:08]
jonnyb_come and join in - https://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel [18:09]
jcyrissejonnyb_: done :) [18:11]
jonnyb_welcome :) [18:11]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30701 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: [FIX] calendar: One too many return false's and tidy css on div#recurrenceRules
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30702 10/branches/6.x/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] toggle: jQueryify toggle function (was failing on calendar) 		[18:25]
jcyrissejonnyb_: well, off to lunch...will read about dev....and will use the mindmap plugin as an area to start with. [18:30]
luciashjcyrisse: are you on tiki-admin.php or do you see some SQL errors when you do the upgrade in the installer ? [18:30]
jcyrisseluciash: no errors at all on upgrade
luciash: the error occurs when i send the shoutbox message to twitter app 		[18:31]
luciashthe error message "Unknown column 'tweetId' in 'field list'" means it is missing the column in the tiki_shoutbox table [18:31]
jcyrisseluciash: i dont see any error messages anywhere on tiki admin
luciash: missing tweetId column? 		[18:32]
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luciashwhat u can do is go to your mysql db (using phpMyAdmin probably) and try to add this column manually [18:33]
jcyrisseluciash: looking at it now...looks like i have msgId, message, timestamp, user, and hash
luciash: those are the only fields i see 		[18:34]
luciashare you able to add that column manually ? tweetId [18:35]
jcyrisseluciash: what would the parameters?...yes....i can [18:36]
luciashi suppose it should be simmilar to the msgId [18:36]
jcyrisseluciash: would i allow null?
luciash: looks like it sets up a second primary key? 		[18:37]
luciashyes
yes, allow null 		[18:38]
jcyrisseluciash: ok, so only field not set for allow null is msgId [18:38]
luciashyup [18:38]
jcyrisseluciash: ok....lets see what kind of damage i did
luciash: SUCCESS!
luciash: wonder why the table didnt upgrade? 		[18:39]
luciashmight be a bug or missing upgrade schema sql [18:43]
jcyrisseluciash: looking at tiki.sql and find the following: `tweetId` bigint(20) unsigned NOT NULL,
luciash: so not sure why it wouldnt have updated. should i modify the field to NOT NULL and bigint (20) instead of int? 		[18:54]
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jcyrisseluciash: modified field to bigint 20 but got error when trying to set to NOT NULL. maybe that was the problem?? anyway, changed field tweetId to bigint (20) and ALLOW NULL. [19:01]
luciashjcyrisse: ah, yes, maybe it fails when trying to set to not null on upgrades where there already are items which obviously must be null at the time the column is being added
jcyrisse: i wouldn't set it to null personally, no idea who wrote that sql piece 		[19:07]
jcyrisseluciash: well, i dunno...but even when I tried to do so, and set the default as "unsigned" it wouldnt allow me to do that
luciash: the database editor
luciash: Error message it "Invalid default value for 'tweetId' 		[19:08]
luciashi dunno either, if it works for you, let it be :) [19:12]
jcyrisseluciash: :) [19:13]
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mikebearyThat sounds very interesting jcyrisse
Are you still on? 		[20:57]
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mikebearymikebeary Anyone know how to use the username pattern function when setting up the login section?
mikebeary I want to allow only .edu email addresses 		[21:52]
jcyrissemikebeary: yup....back.... [21:58]
mikebearyjcyrisse: are you in med school? [22:01]
jcyrissemikebeary: oh my...i am much older...graduated from med school in 1983 :)...but you make me feel like a youngster now...lol [22:03]
mikebearyjcyrisse: lol. Well I'm 34 and going for an associates on my way to med school. I'm sure i won't feel like a youngster once I graduate [22:04]
jcyrissemikebeary: heh....you will lose a bit of sleep, to be sure...wish you much luck! [22:05]
mikebearyjcyrisse: proposed an idea to Missouri community college association for an idea for a tiered wiki that all colleges share
jcyrisse: they went for it so I'm making it now. I thought maybe you were making some kind of academic wiki 		[22:06]
jcyrissemikebeary: that would be a great tool...
mikebeary: well, as such...i have one...is for professionals in cytopathology
mikebeary: my peripheral brain really...but others find use for it....Tikiwiki just is perfect for academics and medical professionals...they just dont all know it!
what would be a good plugin to use as a template? any suggestions?
for making a plugin? 		[22:07]
mikebearyjcyrisse:fascinating. My idea would be for students to go to the wiki on the state level and be exposed to club activities on that level, then navigate down to their college level and then to their campus level
jcyrisse: doc, are you saying not everyone is aware that tiki is perfect for academics? 		[22:09]
jcyrissemikebeary: heh..yup [22:10]
mikebearyjcyrisse: doc could you give me a statement here addressing missoui community colleges that you believe tiki is a great tool for academics and you encourage clubs at all colleges in missouri to use tiki?
jcyrisse: I share your sentiments completely
jcyrisse: I wish I could promote use of your wiki in the same way, but perhaps if this system really flies that would be a good example to show 		[22:11]
jcyrissemikebeary: i think the open nature of the software and community, the variety of features, and now interaction with facebook and twitter, it is a perfect match [22:13]
mikebearyjcyrisse: I want to put a quote from a medical doctor that uses tiki wiki for academic purposes [22:14]
jcyrissemikebeary: i am a believer of "if you build it, they will come"
mikebeary: you could use the site as an example of how it could be used, no problem. 		[22:14]
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mikebearyjcyrisse: your site? [22:16]
jcyrissemikebeary: http://cytopathnet.org [22:16]
mikebearyMine is http://www.collegecollab.org
Can I quote your comments on our wiki? 		[22:17]
jcyrissemikebeary: sure [22:18]
mikebearyjcyrisse: thanks, I think it'll strengthen peoples confidence in tikiwiki
jcyrisse: I totally agree with you, people who don't know have no idea of the full potential of tikiwiki
mikebeary: there's so many tools that foster unimpeded collaboration between people 		[22:20]
jcyrissemikebeary: from a personal sidenote, you will see the use for yourself during your med school studies [22:23]
mikebearyjcyrisse: mikebeary mikebeary: there's so many tools that foster unimpeded collaboration between people
I wonder I med schools are using something like that 		[22:23]
jcyrissemikebeary: i suspect some do, or some variant, ie. Drupal or Docuwiki or other one. [22:24]
mikebearyjcyrisse: I gotta find out if wash u uses it.
jcyrisse: how awesome would it be to collaborate with them. Anyway, i like your tracking idea for a module 		[22:25]
jcyrissemikebeary: :) [22:27]
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mikebearyjcyrisse: hey, youre using random images! The random image module returns an error for me "preference was not set: feature galleries" [22:30]
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daniamHello. Here is: I wish to change the logo icon we see in the url tool bar, would you know howto or where do I place the thumbnail in which file? I have a print screen of what I want to accomplish in the TW file galery at: [dl176|urlShow.jpg] can you help me? [22:31]
mikebearyWhat's the tw file gallery?
Tikiwiki duh ok
How Do I get there?
Is that the miscellaneous file gallery? 		[22:32]
chealerhi daniam. it's called favicon. I did recently but only once and don't remember exactly but there may be a setting for that in the admin panel [22:36]
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mikebearyAnyone know why my random picture module is telling me "preference not set: feature_galleries"? [22:38]
daniamTks Chealer. Gilles MM: sorry can't help [22:44]
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mikebearymikebeary Anyone know why my random picture module is telling me "preference not set: feature_galleries"?
Actually, my website just shows a blank screen now. Can someone help me fix it?
Nothing I do makes it come back up. All I did is set all my homepage modules to anonymous 		[22:54]
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daniammikebeary, can i suggest you post your question on the mail - list? Do you have the instructions to register and post your questions on sourceforge? If not, here they are: First go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=64258 and register. Then mail to: tikiwiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net There, it's quite impossible not to get help. [23:06]
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chealermikebeary: I imagine you need to turn on image galleries [23:18]
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chealermikebeary: there's presumably a fatal PHP error. you'd need to check Apache error logs and maybe turn on PHP error reporting.
bbl 		[23:19]
mikebearyError log says file not found 404.shtml
File not found login.php
Oh yeah I tried to manually go to login.php 		[23:20]
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mikebearyThanks I mailed the list
Yeah I don't think it's a php error
It doesn't return an error when i try to go to the site again 		[23:28]
daniamIn the forum, when I reply to a post I get an error msg: $_POST["thread_sort_mode"]. Any suggestion? [23:33]
mikebearyHow do i connect to my mysql database? What's my host? Is in the format: www.domain.com!
? 		[23:40]
Nvm. I'm in, can someone tell me where in the database I can change module permissions? [23:46]
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mikebearyGot it. Fixed it [23:49]
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