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chealerlindon_: did you make more progress on the timezone issue? [02:06]
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lindon_chealer: no, got pulled away and now trying to finish up other stuff [02:07]
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chealerlindon_: OK, I'm starting to look at code [02:10]
lindon_excellent - good to have a real coder look at this one! [02:10]
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30963 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_vote.php: Adding options to plugin info for plugin edit window [03:13]
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30964 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_userlist.php: Adding options to plugin info for plugin edit window [03:19]
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30965 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_userlink.php: Add tra and some rewording for plugin info for plugin edit window
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30966 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_usercount.php: Add tra and some rewording for plugin info used in plugin edit window
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30967 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_translated.php: Add tra and default in plugin info used in plugin edit window and pluginmanager
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30968 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_transclude.php: Add tra and other minor changes to plugin info used by plugin edit window and pluginmanger [03:44]
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30969 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trade.php: Add defaults and other cleanup of plugin info used in plugin edit window and plugin manager [03:53]
tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30970 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackertimeline.php: Add options and other clean up of plugin info for use in plugin edit window and plugin manager [04:02]
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30971 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerstat.php: Add options and other clean-up for plugin info used in plugin edit window and plugin manager [04:27]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Tikiwiki and Lotus Notes - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39693 [08:24]
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30972 10/branches/6.x/templates/wiki_edit_actions.tpl: [FIX] ajax preview: Preview button now refreshes preview when clicked a second time. Also doesn't open in-page preview if popup preview window is open. [10:55]
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Po0dleHi, I turned javascript off, and now I can't see how to turn it back on
Oh I got it, I thnik
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chibaguyI wonder why there's a scrollbar on Fivealive branch 6 now, 200px extra page width or so indicated. I thought it was due to the login popup's dropdown width or something, but moving that to the page center doesn't make a difference. [11:07]
jonnybhi chibaguy [11:08]
chibaguyhi jonnyb. I like the cssmenu dropdowns' page margin awareness :-) [11:09]
jonnyb:)
not perfect, but the menus disappear if you move them too far to the left
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chibaguyI probably need to adjust the CSS some. [11:09]
jonnybmost odd - not a z-index thing, or margins/padding afaict
where's this 200px extra width? seems ok locally in safari
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chibaguyhow do you mean, about moving the menus to the left? do you mean the dropdown ul, or the whole thing, or what?
oh, I see it in firefox locally in branch 6, just svn-upped, in fivealive only, so thought it's due to the login cssmenu dropdown or something.
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jonnybwow - turning feature_menusfolderstyle off is amazingly ugly! [11:11]
chibaguyhmm, I haven't tried that in a long time. like opening the dusty door in the attic. [11:12]
jonnyby, the dropdown ul on menus in the right hand col [11:12]
chibaguyoh, ok. [11:12]
jonnybhow do you make the app menu use css menus? [11:12]
chibaguyI made a user module and assigned the app menu id, along with the css vert syntax, etc. [11:13]
jonnybchangi|away: how "away" are you today? [11:13]
chibaguyiow like a user-made menu. [11:13]
jonnyboh right (should be easier than that by now, surely?) ;) [11:15]
chibaguyjonnyb, i assume what you did also makes the menu dropdowns rise, when you're near the bottom of the page? [11:15]
jonnybyy [11:15]
chibaguyneat [11:15]
jonnyband from the top if you scroll
there's bound to be one condition i've missed though... (golden pixel for whoever finds it!)
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chibaguywell, if the dropdown rises up through z-indexes to display itself from under overlapping stuff I'll be really impressed. ;-)
I turned off the login box and still get the scrollbar in my local install, so that theory is apparently wron.
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jonnybsuperfish seems to set the z-index to 700 and something, should be in front of most stuff [11:20]
chibaguyright, I once made a list of z-indexes (there's a surprising number of them in Tiki). I should do that again some time.
The scrollbar is coming from something in the footer it seems.
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jonnybyou know how to have fun, chibaguy! [11:21]
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chibaguyah, it's in my local custom css.
a width defined for something else happened to coincide with a div in the footer.
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30973 10/trunk/ (11 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 30961 to 30972 [11:24]
chibaguyyep, the fun never ends around here. :-)
I guess "container" isn't a very safe name for a div that's supposed to be unique ;-) .
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jonnyb:) [11:29]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3685 - - Use of HTML into sub-title of site since 6.x, for a solution - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3685 [11:30]
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ricks99hi all :-) [12:24]
chibaguyhi ricks99 [12:27]
ricks99hi gary [12:29]
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chibaguyricks99, you might be able to temporarily fix info.tiki.org's wide-page problem in ie8 by turning on shadow divs to put table tags around the center column. I haven't tried it and don't know if it'd work, or what it might mess up. [12:59]
ricks99did u see my post? it happens only when viewing cached wiki pages [13:00]
chibaguyI don't know what the cause or fix is, though. [13:01]
ricks99when i click the refresh/reload button for a cached wiki page, the page reloads just fine (in IE 7 & 8)
IE 8 )
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chibaguyI have a similar problem with css and opera. The menu css generally doesn't have an effect on the first page load. [13:02]
ricks99are you using wiki page caching? [13:02]
chibaguy(when css minify is off, I should add)
I haven't notice
...er haven't noticed the ie8 problem myself
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ricks99the only page on info.t.o that using caching is the home page [13:03]
chibaguyI'm not even sure offhand if wiki page caching is currently on or off
ok, I need to check some more to see if there's any other pattern for problem pages, etc.
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ricks99on info.t.o both minify and use single file are one
are *on
i bet that's the issue...
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chibaguyI thought it was related to tables in pages, as the article plugin uses them at least in some settings, and I saw the problem on a page at dev using split. [13:05]
ricks99ricks99 thinks it is due to wiki page caching and minification... [13:06]
chibaguyquite possibly, so I wonder what the solution is besides changing those settings.
or why those things cause it.
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ricks99i can reliable reproduce on info & dev w/ ie
clicking the green refresh arrow clears the cache and reloads the page correctly
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chibaguydoes page content make any difference?
specifically, does having a table in wikitext make a difference, I'm wondering?
the problem pages I saw did have a table, but I don't know yet if that was coincidense.
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ricks99dont think so [13:09]
chibaguyok [13:10]
ricks99i turned off wiki page caching and now there are no issues [13:10]
chibaguyhm.
funny that just that property is affected.
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ricks99odd indeed [13:12]
chibaguymore comparing, etc. needed I guess.
In a few days I'll have more time to test what I can.
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ricks99ricks99 doesn't know enough about wiki page cahcing to even begin to test :( [13:13]
chibaguyI was just thinking about comparing with firebug, page sources, loading from net, etc.
nothing very sophisticated
a problem on these wide-page situations is that it's hard (for me anyway) to tell what's a cause and what's an effect.
but page parts can be turned off selectively and usually the culprit can be isolated.
if it's a page component that's causing a problem
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ricks99the fact that reloading the page clears it up, tells me that Tiki is not caching the complete information correctly
but other then that, i have no suggestions
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chibaguyinteresting how browsers seem to handle it differently too
but not surprising
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gta74hi all! I'm helping to translate tiki into german (interactive translation). But there are a lot of strings, that are untranslateable via the interface. E.g. a lot ob help texts/warnings (bubble info). Anyone can tell me, ho to help translating these texts? [14:08]
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gta74And by the way: any chance that someone can fix this error on i18n.tiki.org: "Missing dependency. Obtain visorFreemind.swf and upload it in files/." The error occurs on http://i18n.tiki.org/tiki-mindmap.php, thx in advance [14:16]
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lphuberdeausylvieg: ping [14:35]
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lphuberdeausylvieg: about to work on the content source for trackers and now I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to identify which fields should be searcheable as full text, per value and which ones should be sortable
any basic rules for this?
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sylviegthere is a setting searcheable [14:51]
lphuberdeauwhat kind of search is that for? [14:56]
sylviegin tiki-view_tracdkers.php - there is a search box [14:56]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3686 - - Translation Drop Down not Available in Wiki Structures and other language anomalies - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3686 [15:04]
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Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3687 - - Doesn´t update Tags in new topic forums - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3687 [15:44]
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lphuberdeauis there a reference somewhere between those 1-character codes and the field types for tracker fields? [15:50]
ricks99other then digging through the tpl & php? not sure
could also simply look at the genrated HTML source of the drop list for the field type
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lphuberdeaugenerated output works
if there was a top-10 worst decisions made in tiki, those codes have got to be part of it
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ricks99+1 [15:57]
sylviegref is in trackerlib.php [15:59]
Tiki|botInfo: Tiki Featured in FLOSS Weekly Interview - http://info.tiki.org/article125-Tiki-Featured-in-FLOSS-Weekly-Interview [15:59]
sylviegcomplain to mose for that [15:59]
lphuberdeauI don't think he would do anything about it [16:06]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r30974 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Adding content source for tracker items [16:17]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: installation fails to find PEAR.php - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=39697 [16:22]
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chealerpolom [16:46]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30975 10/branches/6.x/lib/articles/artlib.php: [FIX] articles: tikidomain missing global
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30976 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] fglas: Fix fgal explorer tree when the root gallery id is not 1 (thanks Geoff)
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chealerjonnyb: I found the culprit for the timezone problem [16:58]
jonnybhi chealer - yay! what was it? [16:58]
chealerjonnyb: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/6.x/lib/tikilib.php?r1=30089&r2=30088&pathrev=30089
jonnyb: at least the most easily blamable commit :-)
jonnyb: but it seems there was a preexisting problem that this just made worse. get_display_timezone() does fallback to UTC if the timezone it's given is deemed invalid. that's what it's doing with America/Montreal and apparently all others
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jonnybhmmm, a php version thing maybe? [17:00]
chealerjonnyb: I seem to remember we had many variations of timezones not long ago, like EST, CET, GMT, no? [17:01]
jonnybyes, it's a bit of a mess [17:01]
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chealerjonnyb: I have it on PHP 5.3.3 and lindon had it on his and ourwiki.net, which must use at best PHP 5.2 [17:02]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: News - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39701 [17:02]
chealerso I don't think so
jonnyb: before the commit the invalid check would only be done if $_user was set, now it's done everytime
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jonnybso TikiDate::TimezoneIsValidId doesn't work? [17:03]
chealerI didn't find (after a quick search) places that call it with $_user other than false to test how it was working before [17:04]
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chealerjonnyb: yeah... it's either that or we're not calling it properly [17:04]
jonnybah, ok - seems to be comparing Europe/London (etc) with the abbreviations (utc, gmt etc)
there's a fix here: http://php.net/manual/en/function.timezone-abbreviations-list.php#97472
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chealerjonnyb: but TimezoneIsValidId didn't change in a long time. yes [17:08]
jonnybbut it looks heavy
it's always been wrong then
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chealerjonnyb: the functions are undocumented of course but I would say there's a problem in the function name timezoneIsValid*Id* if it checks abbreviations [17:11]
jonnybwhy? what's an "id" in this context?
sounds like the abbreviation to me
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chealerjonnyb: see the functions in http://www.php.net/manual/en/class.datetimezone.php
there are listAbbreviations and listIdentifiers
it's currently given an identifier (like America/Montreal) but it checks if it's an abbreviation
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jonnybindeed - so should check for both?
if not an abbreviation, then check the identifiers?
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chealerjonnyb: ah. that could be an easy fix [17:13]
jonnybjust seeing how many references there are to that function [17:14]
chealeryes...
the functions calling it are called from several places
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jonnybnot many - i see 4
safest for it to do both tests though, just in case
in case there are user prefs set to abbreviations out there
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chealerjonnyb: yes, and if there are only 4 callers we could rename it timezoneIsValid (no "Id") [17:16]
jonnybwell, Id could be short for "identifier" i guess [17:16]
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chealerjonnyb: yes, but it will also check abbreviations [17:17]
jonnybcan you do it? [17:17]
chealerjonnyb: yes [17:17]
jonnyblovely - thanks]
(makes sense as you have a good test set up, y?)
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03cdrwhite * r30977 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Fixed handling of AUTOINCREMENT columns and cleanupAmount in accountinglib [17:19]
chealerjonnyb: it's trivial, but yes [17:19]
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luciashpolom polom
ricks99: i have a theory/idea about the caching/minify problem... it seems to me, that when the smarty caching is generated or when the minified file is created, it gets some whitespace (maybe not just plain space) characters in, which some browsers can handle just fine and others do not cope with it correctly or someting like that
ricks99: i believe css minify into one file switching off could make also difference for that wiki page caching problem
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ricks99sounds like a good theory. ive disabled the page cache for the info HomePage in the meantime. Issue still occurs on dev. [18:02]
lphuberdeauissues interacting between page cache and minify are more likely to be around css files being included by some plugins in the page
page cache does not keep track of those
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luciashwould be good to investigate the compiled (cached) smarty file and the minified css file "manually"
lphuberdeau: alo problem with CSS minify into one file seems to me that the css is not respecting the "unminified" order of the css files originally included in HEAD and doesn't cascade completely properly then
s/alo/also/
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lphuberdeaupretty sure the order is correct [18:06]
luciashlphuberdeau: hm, any idea why would tabs appear differently then for minified/unminified css ? [18:08]
lphuberdeaubroken css causing minify to break it?
only difference is that the files being included within css are being prepended
typically, that's only layout/design and they are at the very top
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luciashi think the problem can be with @import [18:09]
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luciashwhen you glue all css files together in one minified file, it is wrong to have @import in the middle of the file... it is against CSS validity
it may appear only aboe all rules in css file
above
so it is fine when having more css files but not fine when minifiing into one
also glueing all css mixing those intended for screen and those intended for print doesn't make sense
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30978 10/branches/6.x/ (lib/stats/statslib.php templates/tiki-stats.tpl): [FIX] stats: 'started' needs to be a timestamp int, not a string for the php functions (so format the date string in the tpl) [18:30]
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CIA-79tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r30979 10/branches/6.x/lib/notifications/notificationemaillib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] notification: Switch wiki notification to use TikiMail the same as everything else as tiki_send_admin_mail was causing corrupted "From" addressed on some servers (thanks again Geoff).
tikiwiki: TODO: This was the last reference to maillib/tiki_send_admin_mail() so that should be reviewed (and removed) after 6.1
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jonnybhi rodrigo_sampaio - got another mediawiki importer problem... you about? [19:13]
rodrigo_sampaiohi jonnyb
jonnyb: what is the problem?
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jonnybit's url links with single quotes in
seems to blow up the parser
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jonnybhere's a real one from WP - [http://www2.tbo.com ''The Tampa Tribune'' (TBO.com).]
i've tried (randomly) removing the quotes from the regexps in lib/pear/Text/Wiki/Parse/Mediawiki/Url.php but no joy (so far - day 3)
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i5513hi, I'm trying to make visible for all people (anonymous people) my blog, that is in tikiwiki 6.0,
anonymous people only can see title and how many articles has
(and number of visitors , when blog was created ...) but NOT posts
when I loggin, I can see my posts
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jonnybrodrigo_sampaio: maybe the string itself is breaking - i'll try some add_slashes() maybe... [19:18]
i5513I tried to configure permissions from admin pannel, but I dont found where I'm failing
has you got any idea about ? thanks!
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jonnybi5513: have you found tiki-objectpermissions.php [19:18]
rodrigo_sampaiojonnyb: sorry but I can't help much now. busy with another project. please fill a bug report here http://pear.php.net/package/Text_Wiki so at least we don't forgot about the problem.
jonnyb: I did a quick quest using just Text_Wiki
jonnyb: I don't know why but apparently Text_Wiki is correctly replacing the two quotes with a token
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i5513jonnyb yes I found it [19:20]
rodrigo_sampaiojonnyb: after all two quotes is the syntax for italic
jonnyb: but it is not replacing the token with the equivalent Tiki syntax for italic
jonnyb: no idea why
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i5513Can read blogs (tiki_p_read_blog) is assigned to all groups [19:20]
rodrigo_sampaiojonnyb: sorry, can't help you more than that this week [19:21]
jonnybrodrigo_sampaio: ok, no worries - thanks (was just wondering if you'd seen it)
i5513: do you have any specific permissions on the blog?
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rodrigo_sampaiojonnyb: no, I was not aware that this is valid Mediawiki syntax (that you can format text inside link description) [19:22]
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jonnybseems to be now :) [19:22]
i5513in tiki-list_object_permissions.php doesn't appear blog
but I don't know if there is another page where I can see that
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Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3688 - - Unable to submit new password for user in user admin - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3688 [19:26]
i5513I can't see tiki_p_view (from http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Anonymous+Permissions)
I suppose that is for 5.0
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jonnybrodrigo_sampaio: bug submitted: http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=18092 (hope it's enough) [19:32]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r30980 10/branches/6.x/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [ENH] Make optional the ability to choose published date for Blog post. It is still on by default. [19:32]
rodrigo_sampaiojonnyb: thanks! [19:33]
mlpvolthey all, looking for ideas how to fit a caption into the colorbox slideshow. - ideally a textfield from the tracker. [19:36]
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jonnybhey, rodrigo_sampaio - seem to have fixed it (in my usual random sort of way) - telling it to process Url before Emphasis seems to work! :) [19:52]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r30981 10/branches/6.x/styles/coelesce.css: [ENH] Take 29401 into account and get back previous expected postfooter layout for coelesce [19:53]
jonnybhmm, just breaks a bit further down the page :( [19:54]
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i5513somebody with tikiwiki 6.0 could confirm to me about tiki_p_view existence ? I can read about in http://doc.tiki.org/Permissions but I can't find it :( [20:25]
ricks99in wiki section
it is in my tiki 6
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dcedilotteif I add a flash video to a wiki page, in tiki 3.0, is it possible to add something like target="_blank" to have it pop up in a new window? [20:29]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r30982 10/branches/6.x/styles/coelesce.css: [ENH] Improve coelesce layout for modules 'last blog post' and 'most popular tags' [20:30]
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i5513the problem was upgrading from 1.9 ... this ittem didn't appear
I will try to migrate my blog from one to other, I hope this will be simple enough
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lindonbchealer: i see in the chat log that you isolated the timezone problem
excellent!
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RavenCpolom
Never used tiki on a hosted server before. Tiki is running fine. Dumb question of the year: How do I make the index.html or index.php "point" to tiki-index.php ??
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lphuberdeautiki comes with it's own index.php
just kill the index.html
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RavenCaaaah! [21:52]
CIA-79tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r30983 10/branches/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerprefill.php: Add default fields and other cleanup to plugin info for use in plugin edit popup and plugin manager [21:52]
RavenCthank you thank you thank you!
Worked like a charm. Thanks for the help Iphuberdeau !
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i5513Finally I found my problem:
I had to update tiki_blog_posts set priv='n';
All priv was setted to 'NULL' ( I was upgrading from 1.9 to 6.0)
Really a lazy day !
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