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[02:23] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Getting rid of icons - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39824
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[09:53] <coaboa> a "Hi" to the tikiverse 
[10:14] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Colorbox Plugin parameters - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39826
[10:51] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r31379 10/branches/proposals/3.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribegroup.php: [FIX] Being in an included group is not incorrect, and can be handled
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[12:29] <changi|afk> jonnyb: hi
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[12:29] <ricks99> hi all :-)
[12:29] <jonnyb> polom changi|work, ricks99 and all
[12:30] <changi|work> jonnyb: i have a question for jquery master and more precisely checkbox.
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[12:31] <jonnyb> thanks Tiki|bot :)
[12:32] <changi|work> jonnyb: i have a list a 100 checkbox, i want to be able to check some of them in javascript using a specific patern
[12:32] <changi|work> jonnyb: is that possible ? 
[12:32] <changi|work> for example: i want to check all checkbox starting with A
[12:35] <jonnyb> sry changi|work - back
[12:36] <jonnyb> certainly - i'll find you the doc (do you mean id starting with "A", name, contents? they're all possible with different selectors) - 1 mo
[12:36] <changi|work> name starting with A
[12:37] <jonnyb> ok, trry this: http://api.jquery.com/attribute-contains-prefix-selector/
[12:37] <jonnyb> so you want $("input[name|=A]")
[12:38] <jonnyb> you can play with it in the console with $("input[name|=A]").click() for instance
[12:38] <changi|work> jonnyb: yes, in fact i will put some more checkboxs at the top 
[12:38] <Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3711 - - Enhancement for sorting items within structures  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3711
[12:39] <changi|work> does this work with jquery-ui or need i to add full jquery ? 
[12:39] <jonnyb> no, just jQuery
[12:40] <jonnyb> jq-ui are the add on objects like tabs, progress bar, dialog etc
[12:40] <changi|work> ok, i was asking because i already have jquery-ui added in this page
[12:40] <jonnyb> http://jqueryui.com/demos/
[12:41] <changi|work> and a jquery-1.4.2.min.js
[12:41] <changi|work> i that enough ? 
[12:41] <jonnyb> you don't need jquery-ui for anything that's not on http://jqueryui.com/demos/
[12:42] <jonnyb> i.e. the basic $() stuff
[12:42] <changi|work> i already use tabs :)
[12:49] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31381 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/6.x 31374 to 31378
[12:49] <changi|work> jonnyb: now you can i get this work with an array ? 
[12:49] <jonnyb> how do you mean?
[12:50] <jonnyb> on http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki6#Regression_bugs the only one still outstanding is the one about forum links - can anyone explain it to me? (then i'll fix it)
[12:52] <ricks99> @jonnyb: i has to do if the forum thread has multiple pages and the default view is anything *other then* flat
[12:52] <ricks99> no matter the link, Tiki always only shows page 1 of comments
[12:52] <jonnyb> so it doesn't use the page number you mean (i find tiki forums totally baffling and never use them)
[12:53] <jonnyb> ok, i'll investigate - probably a query_auto_args missing
[12:54] <ricks99> i've seen it on this thread in t.o: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=35775&topics_offset=7&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=6
[12:54] <ricks99> the thread is 3 pages long, but notification links always only show page 1
[12:54] <changi|work> jonnyb: should this $('input[value|="www"]').each(function() { this.checked = checked_status; }); work ?
[12:55] <jonnyb> ricks99: ok, so the links on the pages are ok, it's just in the mails?
[12:55] <ricks99> afaik
[12:55] <jonnyb> thx ricks99 
[12:55] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: as far as I know yes, the problem is only in the notification messages send by email
[12:55] <jonnyb> changi|work: what is checked_status
[12:55] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: but I guess we are talkin about two different problems
[12:55] <jonnyb> ho rodrigo_sampaio - thx 2
[12:55] <changi|work> checked
[12:56] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: I was not aware of this problem with pagination
[12:56] <jonnyb> what's the other one?
[12:56] <jonnyb> (lost now)
[12:56] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: in other words, when you receive a notification email the link points you to the first page regardless if the topic has more than one page
[12:56] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: this is the first one
[12:56] <jonnyb> ok
[12:56] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: explained by ricks99 and I was not aware of this one
[12:57] <jonnyb> ricks99: wasn't that exactly what you just said?
[12:57] <jonnyb> "ricks99: the thread is 3 pages long, but notification links always only show page 1"
[12:57] * ricks99 thinks that rodrigo)sampaio & i are talking about the same thing?
[12:57] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: yes, this is the one he explained
[12:58] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: but there is a second one, both are related
[12:58] <jonnyb> ok, i'll try and fix that one...
[12:58] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: I will explain it, I can't type in English that fast :P
[12:58] * ricks99 will drink more coffee and let rodrigo_sampaio explain.
[12:58] <jonnyb> thanks rodrigo_sampaio - no rush...
[12:58] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: the second problem is that the anchor for the forum topic is wrong
[12:59] <jonnyb> i need to make a thread locally that is more than a page long! :P
[12:59] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: no matter if the topic has just one page or more than one page
[12:59] <ricks99> @jonnyb: u can simply change the the # of reccords per page to "2"
[12:59] <changi|work> jonnyb: ok will find out, thank you
[12:59] <rodrigo_sampaio> jonnyb: the expected behavior is that when you click in the link you go directly to the new message instead of the top of the page
[13:00] <jonnyb> hmmm, it sounds like this may not be just a "fix" but forums haven't been written with the concept of more than one page (properly)
[13:00] <ricks99> I thought the expected behavior is to show the full thread -- not simply the message -- but anchored at the new msg?
[13:00] <ricks99> showing the reply out of context is not very helpful (imho)
[13:01] <rodrigo_sampaio> ricks99: yes, you are write. this is what I meant but I said something differently 
[13:02] <rodrigo_sampaio> fixing the anchor should be easy, the pagination, as jonnyb said, I think it is not just a quick fix
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[13:28] <changi|work> jonnyb: found what i need : value*=toto :)
[13:28] <jonnyb> super - sorry, i lost track there
[13:29] <jonnyb> it's all in api.jquery.com though
[13:33] <changi|work> jonnyb: i found it. JQuery is so easy when you have examples :)
[13:34] <changi|work> like tiki :)
[13:34] <jonnyb> hmmm, examples can be wrong though... ;)
[13:34] <jonnyb> the api is the ultimate source
[13:34] <changi|work> was talking about api examples.
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[13:35] <changi|work> on http://api.jquery.com/category/selectors/
[13:35] <jonnyb> phew, as long as you're not using _my_ examples in tiki! :P
[13:35] <jonnyb> once you're more familiar this is quite nice too: http://api.jquery.com/browser/
[13:37] <changi|work> jonnyb: was talking about the confirmation stuff with pkdille, would it be possible to replace it with a popup ? 
[13:38] <jonnyb> some of it used to be in fact (when using xajax)
[13:38] <jonnyb> so yes, it's possible
[13:38] <jonnyb> nicer to use a jquery-ui dialog, i think
[13:38] <changi|work> jonnyb: exactly, i was talking about the jquery-ui one
[13:38] <changi|work> :)
[13:39] <changi|work> jquery is my new friend
[13:39] <jonnyb> :)
[13:39] <jonnyb> "write less, do more" is a great slogan!
[13:41] <changi|work> does jquery allow regexp ? 
[13:41] <lphuberdeau> javascript does that alone
[13:41] <jonnyb> JavaScript itself does - 
[13:42] <jonnyb> :P - morning lphuberdeau 
[13:42] <jonnyb> check out the string functions like match and replace
[13:42] <changi|work> lphuberdeau: morning :)
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[13:46] <jonnyb> ok, sorry all - giving in on the forum stuff - it's all calculated in smarty, life's too short :(
[13:48] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: problem - maybe a bug - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=39828
[13:49] * lphuberdeau heads to the office
[13:51] <jonnyb> one thing has been bugging me (for a few years) - why is the maximum time for wiki_cache 2 hours? why not 2 days, for instance?
[13:52] <jonnyb> as long as it remakes the cache if the page is changed surely it could be practically infinite
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[14:46] <LN_> In tiki 6.0, the editing box of blog posts don't stop loading... somebody knows what going on on my tiki?
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[14:54] <jonnyb> LN_: are you getting javascript errors?
[14:57] <LN_> jonnyb: uncaught exception: [CKEDITOR.resourceManager.add] The resource name "tikiimage" is already registered. (Is it a javascript error?)
[14:58] <jonnyb> yes, that'll be the one
[14:58] <jonnyb> can you update to 6.1 (beta 2?)
[14:58] <jonnyb> or wait until later and 6.1 will be released
[14:59] <LN_> Do you have an idea when the 6.1 will be release?
[14:59] <jonnyb> tonight in theory 
[14:59] <LN_> oooh
[14:59] <LN_> great:)
[15:00] <jonnyb> pretty certian that one should be fixed (whether that fixes your prob or not i'm not sure)
[15:00] <jonnyb> wysiwyg in blog is still a bit patchy
[15:01] <LN_> BTW, you did a great job in the fixing the wysiwyg !! :D 
[15:01] <jonnyb> thanks LN_ (slightly ran out of steam in implementing it properly in every single area)
[15:05] <LN_> jonnyb: That's not important, you did a terrific job where it was mostly important !! 
[15:05] <jonnyb> :)
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[15:12] <changi|work> jonnyb: tonight it's a RC1 ? 
[15:13] <jonnyb> oh yes, of course - probably a good thing, there have been a few fixes
[15:13] <jonnyb> also i have one more cclite one to go in
[15:13] <jonnyb> (so being extra careful!)
[15:18] <ricks99> Q: am i correct in assuming that the Menu type (dynamic, fixed, etc) has no affect when using type=css ?
[15:19] <jonnyb> probably ricks99 - it was fairly patchy in phplm anyway...
[15:19] <jonnyb> i never really understood that code - really convoluted 
[15:19] <ricks99> thats what i thought (and for phplayer, if still used, too). t x for verifciation. :-)
[15:20] <jonnyb> phplayermenus are going in 7 - woo hoo! :)
[15:21] <ricks99> cool. the category browser is being updated to use css? sweeet
[15:21] <jonnyb> has been already (for 5 i think)
[15:21] <jonnyb> not pretty though (yet)
[15:21] <ricks99> ah... :-)
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[15:23] <jonnyb> anyone got any thoughts on: why is the maximum time for wiki_cache 2 hours? why not 2 days, for instance?
[15:27] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r31382 10/branches/6.x/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] cclite payments: Use registry's defined currency if set, not the global pref and use correct registry for transaction on cclite server.
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[15:39] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r31383 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-register.tpl: [FIX] Allow valid email syntax 'display name <email>'
[15:42] <ricks99> isn't there a tracker type for multi-select?
[15:44] <lphuberdeau> jonnyb, 2 hours seems reasonable... if some cache gets stale because of a missing invalidation, at least it won't last too long
[15:54] <lphuberdeau> oooo managed to cut down the indexing time from 50 minutes to 20 minutes
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[16:09] * lphuberdeau just understood why search was this slow on my dump of doc.t.o
[16:10] <lphuberdeau> maxRecords is set to the unrealistic value of 2000
[16:10] <lphuberdeau> some days, I think wiki way site administration is a major failure
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[16:15] <jonnyb> crikey - 2000 items per page?  :O 
[16:15] <lphuberdeau> yes
[16:15] <lphuberdeau> that was essentially causing tiki to... load all the db's data in memory
[16:15] <jonnyb> yes, wiki-admin not the best use of the theory
[16:15] <jonnyb> ouch
[16:16] <jonnyb> and doc.t.o is not a trivial data set
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[16:24] <sylvieg> How do I do with tiki a <a href="javascript:window.print()>Print</a> without haveing ,x> and without writing a plugin?
[16:25] <jonnyb> html plugin sylvieg?
[16:25] <sylvieg> good idea...
[16:26] <sylvieg> no it escapes the javascript :-(
[16:26] <sylvieg> perhaps I am on an old version..
[16:27] <jonnyb> really? ah, do you have allow_html on the page?
[16:27] <jonnyb> i think that has a sanitising problem
[16:27] <sylvieg> I am on an html page...
[16:27] <sylvieg> I will try on on tiki6
[16:28] <sylvieg> Btw - has somebody a good idea
[16:28] <jonnyb> yes, the html plugin etc sometimes gets sanitised in html pages in tiki 6
[16:28] <sylvieg> I need to display output of some tracker fields in a TRACKER via pretty
[16:28] <jonnyb> i've investigated a few times but never found the cause
[16:28] <sylvieg> was thing to use a syntax like {$foutput_1234}
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[16:29] <sylvieg> but ... I am not sure...
[16:29] <sylvieg> {$f_1234|output}
[16:29] <jonnyb> what does |output do?
[16:29] <sylvieg> it will replace the <input of the field with the display of the field
[16:30] <sylvieg> people uses TRACKERITEMFIELD now - that is very slow
[16:30] <sylvieg> I need to find a syntax to do it...
[16:30] <sylvieg> for instance Heel Mrs {$f_1234|output} give me your age {$f_3456}
[16:31] <chealer> polom
[16:31] <sylvieg> that will produce Hello Mr jonnyb, give me your age <input>>>>
[16:32] <jonnyb> hmm, i see - not tried anything like that - you're suggesting adding an  output modifier? sounds like a good way...
[16:32] <jonnyb> polom chealer 
[16:33] <sylvieg> polom
[16:33] <sylvieg> it will not be really a modifier in a smarty way...
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[16:42] <jonnyb> sylvieg: i suppose you could do something nasty with jquery and css, to convert some fields into labels?
[16:44] <jonnyb> would save having to change the tracker code (which usually ends up breaking something you've never heard of)
[17:01] <jonnyb> sylvieg: going back to your <a href="javascript:window.print()>Print</a> issue - you could make the link normally and use the {jq} plugin to apply a click handler
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[17:58] <gooroo> is anyone familiar with using DSNs on TW?
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[18:07] <lphuberdeau> gooroo, somewhat
[18:08] <gooroo> i am trying to create a dsn string to access an AS400 database, but when i run the query, th epage is completely blank... cant even see the tiki page
[18:08] <gooroo> do i need to install a driver?
[18:09] <lphuberdeau> it essentially runs through ADODB, is there a driver for that?
[18:09] <gooroo> there is a client access driver provided by IBM
[18:10] <gooroo> can you give me an example of what the DSN would look like?
[18:11] <gooroo> adodb://user:pass@hostname/databasename   <-- Something like this?
[18:11] <lphuberdeau> no
[18:11] <lphuberdeau> adodb is the database layer
[18:12] <lphuberdeau> your driver probably uses odbc
[18:12] <lphuberdeau> so you need to use adodb's odbc driver
[18:14] <lphuberdeau> but you should know, I don't think this case was ever tested
[18:19] <lphuberdeau> if not through odbc, you can always search for a driver written somewhere or attempt to write one of your own... however, they so seem to average 700 lines of code
[18:21] <gooroo> dont think i will be writing any drivers ;)  Thanks a lot for the help
[18:22] <lphuberdeau> well, it's not really a driver, just an adapter in php
[18:22] <lphuberdeau> assuming there is a php extension for it
[18:22] <gooroo> 1 more question.  do you know why when using the plugin sql, nothing would appear in the window at all?  i cant even  see the menus, header or anything.
[18:23] <lphuberdeau> that's probably because a fatal error happened
[18:23] <gooroo> ahh
[18:23] <lphuberdeau> under admin > general, you should be able to turn on PHP error reporting to see what's going on
[18:25] <gooroo> yup it was fatal
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[19:18] <Bsfez> I update to tw6.1 alpha then i was out of business with a HD failure and i get back to find hundreds of fony registration. someone else ?
[19:18] <Bsfez> just in 4 days
[19:20] <ricks99> is your site under attachK?
[19:21] <lphuberdeau> is captcha enabled?
[19:31] * changi|afk preparing release
[19:33] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31384 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing release
[19:42] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31385 10/branches/6.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 6.1RC1
[19:45] <Qantourisc> Anyone tried graphviz in wiki6 N
[19:49] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31386 10/branches/6.x/lang/ (47 files in 47 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 6.1RC1
[19:50] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31387 10/branches/6.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 6.1RC1
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[19:57] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31389 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki-secdb_6.1_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 6.1RC1
[19:59] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r31391 10/tags/6.1RC1/: [REL] Tagging release
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[20:19] <sylvieg> Can I commit to 6 or I need to wait?
[20:21] <changi|afk> sylvieg: is it a fix ? 
[20:21] <changi|afk> :)
[20:21] <sylvieg> yes
[20:21] <changi|afk> go go go
[20:21] <changi|afk> rc is finished
[20:25] <CIA-79> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r31392 10/branches/6.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: IP does not seem to be a global anymore -> fix uniq for IP
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[21:09] <changi|afk> ladies and gentlemen, 6.1 RC1 is out
[21:11] <coaboa> cool
[21:12] <changi|afk> please try some of the archive file
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[21:53] <Bsfez> "is captcha enabled?"... That's a kind of a question... It was for sure ! Now captcha is not enabled and i can't find the option "Prevent automatic/robot registration:" in the Admin "log-in" section.
[21:53] <Bsfez> hu ???
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[21:54] <coaboa> hi jonny thx again for the "quick fix" regarding the removing of multiple selected files
[21:56] <jonnyb> hi coaboa - no problem, funny how something like that can be missing for so long!
[21:56] <coaboa> needs a stupid person to find it ;-) you can call on me!
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[21:58] * jonnyb wonders how many people's pages got lost before we spotted it
[21:59] <lphuberdeau> some days, I wonder if anyone is using tiki at all
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[22:04] <SEWilco2> Bsfez: Look in Admin Home > Security for anti-robot.
[22:05] <Bsfez> just find it :) tks
[22:05] <jonnyb> lphuberdeau: no, i think they just download it for fun!
[22:06] <luciash> polom polom
[22:06] <Bsfez> i wonder if having login setting and antibot captcha in different section of the admin is a smart move
[22:06] <jonnyb> mind you, i just had to submit a form 7 times to buy my bro-in-law national geographic for xmas... (you'd have thought...)
[22:06] <jonnyb> polom luciash 
[22:06] <luciash> hi jonnyb 
[22:07] <luciash> sylvieg: around still with the JS <x> problem ?
[22:07] <Bsfez> i think this option should be available on both place to be set in a convinient way.
[22:07] <luciash> sylvieg: was it in preview or after save ? i found out the <x> appears sometimes only in preview mode... or was it the other way around ?
[22:10] <luciash> jonnyb: wow, 7 times, that's annoying... i wonder you didn't gave up ;)
[22:10] <jonnyb> luciash: it depends on if allow_html is checked for that page - if it is then _everything_ (including html plugin body) gets xss filtered, so you can't (always) use all html in html pages
[22:11] <jonnyb> luciash: i enjoyed the debug ;)
[22:12] <jonnyb> i was tempted to change it (so if you allow html there's no filtering) but then chickened out
[22:12] <luciash> i wonder what is the trust_html_nput perm for actually, if admin doesn't have it
[22:12] <jonnyb> the {js} or {jq} plugins probably work
[22:13] <luciash> that would be bad move i guess
[22:13] <jonnyb> it's all a bit murky
[22:13] <luciash> better would be if it skipped the html plugin body
[22:13] <jonnyb> non-trivial
[22:14] <jonnyb> anyway, i suspect we all should be downloding and testing the 6.1 RC 1 packages...
[22:14] <jonnyb> :P
[22:14] <luciash> and i wonder why can't we use that perm trust_bla_bla for skipping all that annoying html plugin validation when i am admin
[22:14] <jonnyb> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki%206.x%20-Rigel-/
[22:14] <luciash> hihi
[22:15] <jonnyb> again, auto-trust is very involved (lphuberdeau promises nice things for tiki 7, ay?)
[22:15] <luciash> and we could even use that perm for that "html in menu items controversy" if it really actually worked for anything
[22:16] <lphuberdeau> trust_input was a hack for admins to safely ignore the <x> issues
[22:16] <lphuberdeau> introduced in 2
[22:16] * luciash is not sure if that perm is implemented for anything in Tiki at all
[22:16] <jonnyb> :D
[22:16] * jonnyb tests the tiki-6.1.RC1.zip
[22:16] <luciash> lphuberdeau: does it still work in 6 ?
[22:17] <lphuberdeau> it has absolutely nothing to do with plugin validation, that's just bad documentation that slipped in
[22:17] <lphuberdeau> I have no idea, I think the idea was a failure from the start and I don't even bother supporting it
[22:17] <jonnyb> it's wiki-admin again...
[22:17] <luciash> lphuberdeau: i know it didn't work (and wasn't meant to be) for plugin validation
[22:17] <luciash> lphuberdeau: but couldn't it be used for that too ?
[22:17] <luciash> lphuberdeau: haha
[22:17] <lphuberdeau> there are different technical issues preventing that
[22:18] <luciash> it's just a perm
[22:18] <lphuberdeau> just for the amount of time I wasted explaining the issue, I would have fixed it if it were easy
[22:19] <luciash> i mean it is just a perm to be checked against user in group before saving/previewing
[22:20] <luciash> isn't it ?
[22:20] <lphuberdeau> no
[22:20] <lphuberdeau> absolutely not
[22:20] <Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3712 - - Parsing issues in wiki HTML pages  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3712
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[22:22] <jonnyb> changi|afk: tiki-6.1.RC1 unpacks and installs fine, i expect the others do too - thanks :)
[22:22] <luciash> hm, ok, i understand if some other user comes not having the perm assigned afterwards and edits the page it will become sanitized again, right, but it is not a big issue
[22:23] <luciash> imho
[22:23] <lphuberdeau> there is just no hook in the code, nowhere other than during the actual execution, that you have the information necessary to register the plugin signatures, that's the issue
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[22:30] <Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3713 - - Comment box below wiki page opens too small the first time  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3713
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[22:37] <Gergely> Hi all! long time not see. Would someone try on a tiki web page looking at the non-existing subfolder /a/a? Just logged the issue. I could reproduce on a tiki website luciash mentioned once: kincwood. Not reproducable on dev.tiki.org. Has it been fixed?
[22:39] <coaboa> good night
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[22:40] <luciash> Gergely: what you mean by non-existing subfolder ?
[22:40] <luciash> a/a/ ?
[22:40] <Tiki|bot>  Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3714 - - default tiki setup vulnarable to subfolder links  - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3714
[22:40] <luciash> good night coaboa||away 
[22:41] <Gergely> on the server there is normally no 'a' folder
[22:42] <Gergely> try yourwebpage.com/a/a
[22:42] <Gergely> good night coaboa
[22:43] <luciash> Gergely: i don't understand the problem
[22:43] <luciash> Gergely: what it should do ideally ?
[22:43] <jonnyb> hi Gergely 
[22:43] <Gergely> hi jonnyb
[22:43] <luciash> Gergely: now it just says page a/a doesn't exist
[22:44] <Gergely> that is ideal
[22:44] <Gergely> it does not do that for me
[22:44] <luciash> Gergely: what it does for you ?
[22:44] <Gergely> it loads the page for a long time...
[22:45] <Gergely> and when it stops it shows some parts of the page with white background in a nasty format
[22:45] <Gergely> Firefox/3.6.12
[22:46] <jonnyb> what tiki version Gergely?
[22:46] <luciash> Gergely: hmm, ok, and why is it security related ?
[22:46] <luciash> Gergely: isn't it just nasty look related ? :)
[22:47] <Gergely> well, it is easy to overload the server. it is not a serious issue perhaps
[22:47] <Gergely> I am not sure what the server does actually
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[22:48] <Gergely> tiki version 5.3
[22:48] <Gergely> I have to say I have not tried on a fresh install
[22:49] <jonnyb> i added a pref to add the <base> tag in the <head> in tiki6.1 - might help
[22:50] <Gergely> wow jonnyb. is 6.1 out?
[22:50] <jonnyb> RC 1 is out now
[22:50] <jonnyb> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/files/Tiki%206.x%20-Rigel-/
[22:51] <Gergely> oh, yes. sounds good. I will wait for the 6.1, but thanks for the hint 
[22:54] <Gergely> jonnyb: am i supposed to be able to find the base tag in the dev.tiki.org page source?
[22:55] <jonnyb> Gergely: think it got turned off again while i was fixing it
[22:56] <Gergely> a/a is handled properly, so it must be something else doing the trick
[22:57] <Gergely> does dev.tiki.org have a special htaccess?
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[22:58] <lphuberdeau> small modifications
[22:58] <luciash> Gergely: try allow / in page names
[22:59] <lphuberdeau> mostly additional rewrite rules
[22:59] <luciash> Admin > Wiki i suppose
[22:59] <Gergely> looking...
[23:04] <luciash> Gergely: sorry, it will probably not be that
[23:05] <luciash> Gergely: affects new page creations only afaics
[23:05] <Gergely> ok.
[23:05] <Gergely> stopped looking
[23:08] <Gergely> lphuberdeau: is there a rewrite rule for subfolder urls?
[23:08] <lphuberdeau> example?
[23:09] <Gergely> a/a
[23:09] <lphuberdeau> where do you want that to point?
[23:09] <Gergely> something like page not found
[23:10] <lphuberdeau> tiki will take any remaining URL and send it as a wiki page name essentially
[23:10] <lphuberdeau> 404 is then handled by tiki
[23:11] <Gergely> since when?
[23:11] <lphuberdeau> long time I believe
[23:11] <luciash> Gergely: it is very well possible that you only need to set the RewriteBase
[23:12] <Gergely> 5.1 I had to fill in ErrorDocument 404 /tiki-index.php?page=access+denied
[23:12] <Gergely> RewriteBase / ?
[23:12] <luciash> yep
[23:13] <Gergely> is it enough to do it just once right after RewriteEngine On?
[23:13] <Gergely> because I did that
[23:13] <luciash> Gergely: or add the base tag as jonny suggested to your L&F > General Layout > HEAD code
[23:14] <Gergely> like <base>? sorry, I lack the example
[23:15] <luciash> search google for base html tag
[23:19] <Gergely> tried it. no joy
[23:20] <jonnyb> the trouble with <base> is that it needs the full url (inc page) to work properly
[23:20] <jonnyb> but it might not be that for you Gergely - might be how page not found is being handled
[23:22] <luciash> jonnyb: tried it on kincwood, no joy either
[23:22] <luciash> might be fixed in 6.x but not in 5.x
[23:22] <jonnyb> the fix in 6.x copes with it afaik now
[23:22] <jonnyb> no, 5.x is done now
[23:23] <luciash> i mean adding the <base> tag manually doesn't change the "broken" stylesheet display, but fixes the links at least
[23:23] <luciash> in 5.x
[23:24] <jonnyb> yes, but will break {maketoc} and other ahnchors
[23:24] <jonnyb> anchors
[23:26] <luciash> hmm, must upgrade that site
[23:26] <luciash> running 5.0 still
[23:26] <luciash> any idea why it says new version is available 5.3 but not 6.0 ?
[23:27] <jonnyb> bugs (unreported) :P
[23:27] <Gergely> thank you guys for the effort.   looking forward to 6.1
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[23:28] <Gergely> good night
[23:30] <luciash> jonnyb: hmm, i thought it should work fine nowadays (the latest version detection)
[23:30] <luciash> Gergely: good nite
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[23:31] <chealer> luciash: stable.version is not updated yet. I think 6.1 would be the time to put 6
[23:31] <luciash> chealer: oh ? i have 6.0 as latest in my tikitrunk/doc/stable.version
[23:31] <chealer> luciash: I'm not sure if major updates are proposed the same way as minor updates though
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[23:32] <luciash> and it seems commited for me
[23:32] <chealer> luciash: hum. tiki.org/stable.version has 6.0, but tikiwiki.org/stable.version doesn't.
[23:33] <luciash> aaaaah, that's the problem
[23:33] <chealer> surely old Tiki versions look at the latter.
[23:33] <luciash> Tiki 5 was still referring to tikiwiki.org
[23:33] <luciash> yup yup
[23:33] <chealer> I don't understand the discrepancy
[23:33] <luciash> changi|afk: when you come back to k, can you please update that one ?
[23:34] <luciash> chealer: missing rewrite rule
[23:34] <luciash> i suppose
[23:34] <luciash> on t.o
[23:41] <luciash> hmm, there's something wrong on tiki.org with utf-8
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[23:41] <luciash> cannot save page escription or structure alias in czech
[23:42] <luciash> tried to save "Obsah tiki.org v češtině" but turned out as "Obsah tiki.org v ?eštin?"
[23:42] <luciash> *description
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