#tikiwiki 2011-02-09,Wed

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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r32519 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): typos	[00:06]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r32520 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: typo	[00:24]
marclaporte	http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Trackers+Revamp&sort_mode=lastModif_asc System error.The following error message was returned:Unknown column 'lastModif' in 'order clause'	[00:25]
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marclaporte	found in google result	[00:25]
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deadcom	hey tiki people... This error is happening ona new installation of 6.1: Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 90 seconds exceeded in tikilibcoreZendSession.php on line 480	[01:16]
marclaporte	on Windows?	[01:17]
deadcom	it's happening when I try and create a new article [01:17] <deadcom> yeah IIS	[01:17]
radek82	theres your problem iis	[01:17]
deadcom	no choice :/	[01:17]
marclaporte	which version of IIS?	[01:17]
deadcom	i have to run asp.net on the same host	[01:18]
marclaporte	Did you install via WebPI?	[01:18]
deadcom	im not actualy sure i didn't do the install myself.. im asking on behalf of the person that did why do you ask?	[01:19]
	I was in here last night and I asked about an error i had using tiki 5.3... I was given the advice to upgrade to 6.1, so that's what was done today (by another fellow)	[01:24]
chealer	deadcom: when is it happening?	[01:27]
deadcom	Hey Bob, I’m having an issue with saving a new wiki page, I can create the page, I just can’t save it. When I do it gives me the following error ‘The page cannot be found The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.’ I’m logged in as admin so tiki permissions shouldn’t be an issue… on the ftp I have read/write permissions set (but not execute) When I try and create a new article it gives me an error: ‘Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 90 seconds exceeded in D:WebRootDomainsnwtspeciesatrisk.cawwwroottikilibcoreZendSession.php on line 480’ Can you have a look and see what might be the issue? All the login and passwords should be the same as before Thanks! ^^ that's the email i just got... sorry about flooding	[01:28]
chealer	marclaporte: hum. any idea if/where we have links to that?	[01:30]
radek82	guys, trackerlist is truncating some of my textarea fields, can i force it to show the full field? or do i need to go to tpl?	[01:30]
chealer	deadcom: can you reproduce these problems?	[01:31]
marclaporte	chealer: I don't understand the question radek82: truncate at how many chars?	[01:31]
radek82	50 or so 1. Boil 48 Liters of Water 2. Turn off heat & add malt extracts, g... 64	[01:32]
chealer	marclaporte: that URL, where did Google get it?	[01:33]
deadcom	chealer: I'm just attempting to.. standby :)	[01:33]
chealer	marclaporte: I can reproduce on my local 6.x install. /var/www/tiki/6.x/lib/wiki/wikilib.php : 464 -> query(array ( 'query' => ''select `user`,`attId`,`page`,`filename`,`filesize`,`filetype`,`hits`,`created`,`comment` from `tiki_wiki_attachments` where `page`=? order by `lastModif` asc'', 'values' => 'array (0 => 'Instructions')', 'numrows' => '-1', 'offset' => '0', 'reporterrors' => '', ))	[01:33]
	I'll be half afk	[01:38]
deadcom	chealer: ok, I'm getting a different error, I get 'Page Cannot be Displayed' when I try to create a new wiki page.... right when I hit Save. Doesn't time out, just goes immediately to page cannot be displayed. the url is /tiki/New+page+TEST on the page that fails	[01:39]
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deadcom	chealer: did you happen to get my last msg?	[01:55]
marclaporte	chealer: search for "Trackers Revamp" deadcom: do you have ShortURLs activated? if so, turn those off	[01:58]
deadcom	and give oyu the url again?	[02:00]
	ok i give up, i can't figure out how to set that ShortURLs thing	[02:07]
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marclaporte	go to tiki-admin.php and search "short URL"	[02:10]
deadcom	good thinking	[02:11]
marclaporte	So many features that we had to add a search engine	[02:12]
radek82	marclaporte, did you get a chance to listen to the UBB government review?	[02:14]
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deadcom	marclaporte: I switched off short urls it appears my pages are saving now.... ^____^	[02:16]
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marclaporte	radek82: nooe, what happened deadcom: can you document that?	[02:35]
deadcom	how would i go about that?	[02:35]
marclaporte	write that info where it would have helped you I guess on Install IIS page maybe chealer is in a good mood :-) and good a check for IIS and prevent ShortURLs of being activated when using IIS	[02:36]
deadcom	hmm, im totally new to tiki wiki (as of about 2 days ago) is there a knowledgebase you are refering to?	[02:39]
marclaporte	deadcom: sorry for rocky start	[02:39]
deadcom	lol, no, i was originally tasked to move the wiki to a new server it didn't transfer too well, i imagine a big part of the problem was the short urls thing... anyway, we now have the new version installed after upgrading	[02:39]
marclaporte	oh, perhaps it was Apache before?	[02:40]
deadcom	yes it was	[02:40]
marclaporte	ahhhhhh ok, so it's a rarer occurence....	[02:40]
deadcom	my job is actually more to integrate this asp.net application (endangered species infobase) into the tiki wikki so i was hoping I could plant it in an iframe on a page... do you know if there is anything preventing me from achieving that? an iframe within the tiki site, that is	[02:42]
radek82	marclaporte, some long suppressed issues finally got aired, it sounds like the government is taking this seriously, thursday is the big day, its the day of bell and the incumbents	[02:43]
marclaporte	http://doc.tiki.org/PluginIframe	[02:43]
deadcom	very nice!! thanks so much :)))	[02:43]
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marclaporte	deadcom: dedicated to you: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Troubleshooting&history_offset=0&diff_style=sidediff&diff_style=sidediff&show_all_versions=y&compare=Compare&newver=0&oldver=12&tra_lang=sq&paginate=on&history_pagesize=50	[02:52]
deadcom	deadcom registers that's awesome.. hey you made a typo, not to be a grammar nazi	[02:53]
marclaporte	ok, fix it!	[02:54]
radek82	hrrm, i broke a tracker :( getting internal server error	[03:08]
deadcom	marclaporte: fixed it	[03:14]
radek82	my db upgrade finally caught up with me i think, when i click on a tracker item, it takes me to homepage on a fresh install the same tracker setup works fine	[03:15]
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chealer	I'm back	[03:46]
	marclaporte: but do you have any idea where Google found that link?	[03:56]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: How can I convert and upload manuals/Data sheets into Structures/wiki's? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40369	[04:10]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32521 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX] check_feature(): don't give 503 error because a feature is missing and don't ask to login	[04:50]
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ajakkes_	Hi I need my tikiwiki to keep older file versions when i replace them with a new version. How do i do that?	[07:36]
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	It looks like its working when i add a subfolder with achive 0 as a property	[07:59]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r32522 10/trunk/ (12 files in 3 dirs): [REF] Simplified log-in popup. Still needs some work and cleaning up.	[11:00]
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jonnyb	polom du jour	[11:20]
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luciash	polom	[11:23]
jonnyb	hi luciash	[11:23]
xavi	polom jonnyb luciash and all	[11:23]
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jonnyb	hi xavi - how's things?	[11:24]
xavi	he he , a bit busy these days (just started my 3rd course yesterday) and how are you doing? ragrding my work at uni with Tiki and PluginR, I'm right now somewhat prevented to use all the new improvements that robertplummer made to trunk, since smarty templates in wiki pages don't workin trunk since that change from nyloth so I'm working in proposals/6x for work, without the improvements (so far) that I've paid for... :-/ that's partly why I'm suggesting that codemirror and those little things added to spreadsheets can be added to proposals/6x at some point in the near future (after 6.2, whenever... for 6.3, 6.4 or whenever, that getting in proposals/6x branch at some point)	[11:25]
jonnyb	yes, that change definitely didn't preserve (or even respect) the environment	[11:29]
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xavi	yes, I agree with that opinion	[11:30]
jonnyb	nyloth said he'd add a pref when he can...	[11:30]
chibaguy	pooloom	[11:30]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy	[11:30]
chibaguy	hi jonnyb	[11:30]
xavi	yes, that's why I'm waiting for that... (looking forward to his improvement of his previous commit) hi chibaguy	[11:30]
chibaguy	and hi xavi	[11:30]
jonnyb	i'm thinking of using trunk now for a couple of new tiki sites - can't face not having the modules everywhere and the theme generator (even if it's more of a theme tweaker currently) xavi: so he's the bottleneck for both that and 6.2 :P best be nice to him!	[11:31]
chibaguy	I know what you mean, jonnyb, but the module parameters aren't quite working, are they?	[11:32]
xavi	he he, yes, jonnyb :-)	[11:32]
jonnyb	no? like what chibaguy? i fixed the theme one	[11:32]
xavi	chibaguy: a quick question for you: I was looking for hte page about using divs instead ofsplit to have columns in a page	[11:33]
jonnyb	(the code just wasn't there)	[11:33]
xavi	and I couldn't find it on themes.t.o yesterday any link?	[11:33]
chibaguy	jonnyb, I'll try clearing all my modules and parameters and starting fresh. Right now I have a mismatch between what is shown in the module edit form (which is correct in the db) and what is shown in the assigned modules column.	[11:34]
jonnyb	really? could be a cache thing	[11:35]
chibaguy	....maybe due to configuring over several updates or something. well, I'll start fresh and give it all a try again.	[11:35]
jonnyb	my popup module edit form was definitely buggy at some points, so may have messed stuff up	[11:35]
chibaguy	xavi, it was called "floated box" or something like that.	[11:35]
xavi	ok, I'll search again thks	[11:35]
jonnyb	at least it's quite quick now to re-create them all	[11:36]
xavi	and if I find it, I'll ad a link to that page from some other linked page from the homepage	[11:36]
chibaguy	http://themes.tiki.org/Floated+box+demo	[11:36]
xavi	ah, thks chibaguy !	[11:36]
chibaguy	Actually, i'd like to have a more comprehensive 'grid system' for tiki 7. Not much css needed actually. it'd be useful in wiki text areas and the horizontal module areas. etc and maybe would enable more nicely styled pages. I'll make a demo page somewhere and see what people think.	[11:37]
luciash	nice, i'll be 300 000 hours old pretty soon and i've done nothing significant for "the better world" yet :-p chibaguy: floated columns are cool, only disadvantage is you cannot calculate them easily to have the same heights as with table based split plugin	[11:39]
	ok, i'll be quiet again ;)	[11:45]
xavi	:-) thanks for tip, luciash chibaguy: I added the link to the horizontal menu in themes.t.o new pages like that, you can link them to ((Tricks)), so that they are dyanmically displayed from that page (added to the menu also) hth	[11:46]
luciash	that disadvantage could be maybe "cured" using jQuery height calculation	[11:47]
xavi	split plugin is buggy: when combined with plugin code, you get <br/> shown in the content of the plugin code displayed... :-/	[11:47]
luciash	oh :(	[11:48]
xavi	example: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginR#Example_5:_adding_params_to_the_graphs	[11:48]
luciash	the link ends with the colon in my irssi :( but i know how to workaround ;)	[11:50]
chibaguy	jonnyb, here's a problem I see: I delete a menu from topbar modules and clear the cache...	[11:52]
jonnyb	hmm? (i'm still replying to your email about renaming module(s))	[11:53]
chibaguy	...then I assign a new Menu module and fill in the parameters. When it shows up in the assigned modules, it has parameters "mode=popup" and "nobox=y" These are parameters I've used for the login form. I don't know what happened to the menu parameters I input. clearing the cache doesn't help.	[11:53]
luciash	oh, it's really hard to login with Chromium via the popup login box	[11:54]
chibaguy	luciash, do you mean in tiki 6? or trunk?	[11:57]
luciash	on doc.t.o currently	[11:57]
jonnyb	chibaguy: ok, i'll try and recreate (in a few mins, need to clear current stack)	[11:58]
luciash	chibaguy: don't worry about that... might be Chromium bug	[11:58]
chibaguy	luciash, i have srware iron (chromium) and it seems to be ok. the popup is in focus as long as the mouse is over it.	[11:59]
luciash	chibaguy: it did disappear with every typed letter for me chibaguy: until i started typing really fast :-p	[12:00]
chibaguy	luciash, I need to redo your fivealive login popup details. I kinda wiped them away in my 'simplifying' effort. no problem for chromium here. are you using it on linux or windows?	[12:00]
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luciash	linux chibaguy: my details ? feel free to do them better :) i kinda gave up after struggling with different width of the "Login" tra strings in different languages	[12:02]
chibaguy	well, the radius corners anyway ah	[12:04]
luciash	hmm, the radius corners were not introduced by me iirc	[12:04]
chibaguy	ok	[12:05]
luciash	or were they ? :-p so long ;)	[12:05]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32523 10/trunk/lib/prefs/user.php: [FIX]doc: fix link. thx Nelson tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32524 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/prefs/user.php: [bp/r32523][FIX]doc: fix link. thx Nelson	[12:06]
luciash	xavi: somehow the aliases don't work on that page	[12:10]
xavi	oups, confirmed, luciash : http://doc.tiki.org/PluginRR not found :-/ alias links are buggy still, and also on doc.t.o (I thought they were only in some of my sites)	[12:12]
luciash	it worked for me... maybe some pref is missing ? iirc it needs backlinks, semantic links, ... something else ?	[12:13]
chibaguy	jonnyb, assigning a menu module to page top (first time ever I assigned one there) worked ok. But assigning it to topbar, where there have been many menu assignments, always gets messed up, with old info showing instead.	[12:14]
luciash	xavi: Semantic links is off on d.t.o	[12:15]
xavi	??? I wonder why...	[12:15]
jonnyb	but if you unassigned the stuff in the topbar it will have gone - there's no "history" of that stuff	[12:15]
xavi	maybe a side effect of automatic updates to db?...	[12:15]
luciash	xavi: no idea	[12:15]
xavi	neither do I	[12:15]
chibaguy	jonnyb, that's the mystery, all right.	[12:16]
xavi	can you re-enalbe if you are already there?	[12:16]
luciash	xavi: sure	[12:16]
xavi	thks :-)	[12:16]
jonnyb	chibaguy: the only special thing about dragging a new module into the top or the bottom is that it automaticcaly adds nobox=y to the params	[12:16]
luciash	xavi: done	[12:17]
jonnyb	oh yes - see what you mean (you did topbar didn't you chibaguy? :P )	[12:18]
chibaguy	I'm not dragging, I'm assigning using the select gadget under "Assign new module". But I enter the usual menu parameters and when I save, the page comes back with "theme=xtratoveil.css nobox=y" only, which is incomplete and wrong (I didn't indicate a theme).	[12:19]
jonnyb	same thing happend for drag for me - search wiki ended up with remember=y	[12:20]
luciash	xavi: see, still don't work... there is some stupid dependency on another feature i think	[12:20]
chibaguy	hmm.	[12:20]
jonnyb	ok, i'll debug sometime (when i'm not already debugging something else)	[12:20]
chibaguy	apparently. Ok, thanks.	[12:20]
luciash	xavi: i bet it is "Similar (like pages)" xavi: lets try this	[12:21]
xavi	yes, it must be this: afaik, you need backlinks on, and similar pages on (I wonder why this last one, since then you get the similar pages link somewhere in the page, afair, even if youu don't want it)	[12:24]
luciash	xavi: omg, still not working :-/	[12:25]
xavi	arghhhh, feature banning is defective in a 5.x site in one server, but I could reproduce the same missbehavior in a tiki6 (proposals/6.2...) in another different tiki site! once I add a rule, if I click to edit it, the rule is deleted! :-/ dropping a line at dev.t.o/tiki6	[12:28]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[12:29]
jonnyb	hi ricks99	[12:29]
ricks99	hiya jonnyb	[12:31]
xavi	hi ricks99	[12:34]
ricks99	hi xavi	[12:35]
luciash	xavi: ah, an idea, maybe it is missing the alias defined in Semantic alias admin panel xavi: nope, wrong idea, it is there :-/ xavi: i don't get it... it even shows usage of the alias on that panel... so why it is not working for your PluginRR is a mystery for me	[12:38]
	xavi: why on the other pages it works though ? http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Tiki4&source=0 vs http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=PluginR&source=0	[12:46]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32525 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] modules: hide modules disabled due to prefs required, add toggle checkbox to show them again.	[12:49]
luciash	seems the same to me xavi: don't tell me i need to clear Tiki cache ! :-p	[12:49]
xavi	I have no clue, luciash (that's the same conclusion I got every time I tried to identify a pattern with this issue/bug with alias link.... and I've invested many hours in the last year for such nuisance). So , as far as I?m concerned, I learned to live with it :-/ and disable the fature is needed, or use again the redirect plugin, etc. redirect never fails :-)	[12:51]
luciash	xavi: redirect fails for me in one case :-p	[12:53]
xavi	:-)	[12:53]
luciash	ok, going to clear Tiki cache and see or give up	[12:53]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3788 - - proposals/6x: Edit a Banning rule deletes the rule! - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3788	[12:53]
luciash	xavi: nope, clearing Tiki cache doesn't help... i give up with this PluginR aliases on doc.t.o	[12:54]
xavi	if it only was with this page... wise decision, anyway! (when something is beyond our skills) argh... changi\|away , can we have dev.t.o upgraded to work on proposals/6x please?	[12:55]
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xavi	this time, search results were good in dev.t.o (good!), but links to items are defective because of SEF... and that bug was fixed by sylveg weeks ago in proposals (afaik) luciash: fyi, my first report of that rare issue with semantic links: https://dev.tiki.org/item3027 and still open	[12:58]
luciash	ah, thx	[13:05]
xavi	btw, https://dev.tiki.org/Semantic&highlight=semantic%20link produces wrong display of the page (left column in the middle, and no center column) ok, enough bug reporting for today, back to other work	[13:05]
luciash	c u xavi	[13:06]
xavi	he he, back to other work related to Tiki & PluginR :-) so I'll still be around a few hours	[13:06]
luciash	ah :-p	[13:06]
xavi	:-)	[13:06]
luciash	u know the experience is u usually say that and vanish immediately ;)	[13:07]
xavi	:-D oh well, attempting to delete several forums at once produced a system error... :-( (using proposals/6x) Incorrect key file for table './xavi_08/tiki_comments.MYI'; try to repair it... anyway... I'll do one by one, or by any means (I need these things done today) aha, only the first forum was deleted :-/ and deleting one by one triggers the same error...	[13:20]
luciash	try to repair	[13:24]
xavi	he he, that's where I am now :-)	[13:24]
chibaguy	funny that https://dev.tiki.org/Semantic&highlight=semantic%20link breaks the page but https://dev.tiki.org/Semantic is ok	[13:25]
xavi	??????? for some reason, I have two tables with charset latin1 still!!!	[13:25]
	and after the charset is convervetd to utf-8, I detected another issue: deleting several threads at once in one forum is not working either	[13:32]
chibaguy	the dev page with highlight is broken in opera, but ok in ff	[13:33]
xavi	ok, something nice: after fixing the (ẅeird & unnexpected) issues with latin1 charset in two tables (commens and search index), deleting several forums at once works smoothly again! ;-) mmm, chibaguy: display is broken for me in ff 3.6.13 (GNU/Linux)	[13:34]
chibaguy	heh	[13:35]
xavi	and ok in chrome	[13:35]
chibaguy	funny	[13:35]
xavi	oups, nope. Ok in chrome as anonymous, broken once logged in (user "xavi") he he, and same behavior in ff	[13:35]
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luciash	what is the difference betwen group (shared) and personal mail box in web mail ? technically	[13:44]
xavi	mmm, no idea for sure. group might mean what is needed for the GroupMail feature... I did document it a bit somewhere years ago somewhere in doc.t.o I mean	[13:50]
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luciash	xavi: ok, i'll try to dig it out, tnx hmm, there is no sent "folder" in the web mail ?	[13:52]
jonnyb	off out - bbl (tomorrow maybe)	[13:53]
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ricks99	Q: in tiki 6, i have "open page as structure" enabled. but if a page belongs to multiple strcutures, tiki opesn the page reglar (not in any structure). how can i set the "default" structure for a page? seems like a bug (to me) other than that, i'm really enjoying tiki 7	[14:09]
luciash	xavi: i thought u have added some option to add page to a structure (not only create structure from page)... wasn't it so ?	[14:12]
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ricks99	@luciash: was that structure q for me? or xavi?	[14:19]
luciash	ricks99: for xavi	[14:22]
ricks99	k. tx	[14:23]
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xavi	back reading the backlog	[14:28]
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xavi	ricks99: well, not me, someone elese (sylvieg I think) fixed the issue which prevented to add pages from the wiki page bar	[14:29]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3789 - - Lack of default, when a page belongs to multiple structures - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3789	[14:29]
xavi	it works nicely in proposals/6x again since a few weeks and I guess, that also in trunk, but I haven't tried	[14:29]
ricks99	y, that is fixed. my question is different	[14:29]
radek82	anyone report issues with trackers when doing major upgrades? im having issues with not being able to edit tracker items after upgrade	[14:29]
xavi	ah, ok, ricks99 , regarding your initial question, no idea maybe it's not coded yet	[14:30]
luciash	radek82: hopefully u didn't use "mirrored trackers" (or how was it called) before	[14:31]
xavi	radek82: upgrade from which version to which version?	[14:31]
radek82	from 4.2 to 6.1 luciash: linked trackers? cause i did	[14:31]
xavi	radek82: double check category permissions	[14:31]
radek82	xavi: i did, what happens when i click on a tracker item is it takes me to homepage im going to do a fresh install and migrate everything by hand	[14:32]
xavi	radek82: mirror tracekrs are a deprecated feature... if you don't know what hey are, 99% or chances that you didnt use them	[14:32]
luciash	radek82: no i mean "mirror trackers" (each tracker had it's own database table) which was later deprecated for some reason	[14:32]
lphuberdeau	the reason is that they were entirely broken	[14:32]
xavi	radek82: are you using sef urls?	[14:32]
radek82	xavi: yes	[14:32]
luciash	radek82: u need to compare and update your .htaccess file	[14:33]
xavi	lphuberdeau: that's simply not true, but that's another issue, and I don't want to defend mirror trackers (they were defecetive in some parts, but not entirely broken)	[14:33]
luciash	radek82: there was some SEFURLs related fix	[14:33]
radek82	luciash: is it rolled into 6.1 ?	[14:33]
xavi	lphuberdeau: fyi, I still have some mirror trackers (unluckily... long story) working in a tiki 3.x site	[14:33]
lphuberdeau	xavi, they had forked from the other trackers because they required too much duplication	[14:33]
xavi	yes, I know	[14:34]
luciash	and if u use "redirect on error" enabled, then it probably redirects you to homepage when page "itemXXX" not found)	[14:34]
xavi	I know (I've suffered the whole process... and still suffering in one site)	[14:34]
luciash	radek82: ^	[14:34]
radek82	luciash: hrrm, lemme have a look, thanks	[14:35]
luciash	radek82: when itemXXX should be actualy SEFURL rewrite rule in .htaccess	[14:35]
xavi	radek82: use proposals/6x (the issue with tracekrs and sefurl has been fixed in proposals a few weeks ago) or wait until 6.2	[14:36]
radek82	ahh, ok so its 6.2 how long till 6.2?	[14:36]
luciash	next week	[14:36]
radek82	ok, i can do other stuff till next week	[14:36]
luciash	:)	[14:37]
radek82	you think 6.2 is production ready? i thought it was my database upgrade cause i have a 6.1 fresh install, and everything works, hrrm, lemme check if that fresh one uses SEF URLS	[14:37]
xavi	radek82: my experience is that proposals/6x is more "production ready" than 6.1	[14:37]
luciash	6.2 proposals is fine for me too	[14:38]
radek82	confirmed SEF URL's as cause thanks guys :)	[14:41]
xavi	:-) np thanks to sylvieg for fixing it ! :-)	[14:42]
radek82	im still gonna do a fresh 6.2 install and migrate manually this thing has been updated too many times for a production box i figure once every 2 years isn't so bad to rebuild it	[14:44]
xavi	radek82: please, pay attention to the documentation on upgrading from previous to 5.1 to after 5.1 (encoding issue) follow these steps and you should be fine with the upgrade:	[14:45]
radek82	xavi: UTF? i did this is production so i read very carefully i still have good ol 4.2 incase i muck something up :P	[14:46]
xavi	http://doc.tiki.org/Upgrade#Fix_the_encoding_issue	[14:46]
radek82	yep, thats the one	[14:47]
xavi	I would suggest that you don't attempt to fix the encoding issue by hand (there are 3 different things to fix, and one of them is not clear how to do by hand) luckily lphuberdeau solved the whole issue by means of improving the tiki-install.php script! :-)	[14:47]
radek82	yes xavi i ran the upgrade through tiki-install as the docs mentioned im no cowboy :)	[14:48]
xavi	the 3 steps I mean, not just run the tiki-install.php anyway, good if you don't have issues after the upgrade with file download corrpution, etc. xavi back to work in other things	[14:48]
radek82	:)	[14:56]
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philippeback	Hi Gang Got a Tiki installed for an internal support team at one of my clients in Belgium. LDAP-Connected.	[18:43]
marclaporte	congrats philippeback!	[18:45]
philippeback	Also went to FOSDEM this week end, Tiki tshirt and all and gave around some promosheets Next year, we must secure a slot. Too bad I was drowning in work and didn't noticed the date until too late...	[18:45]
marclaporte	how many promo sheets?	[18:46]
philippeback	I had 50, remains 20 or so	[18:47]
marclaporte	This is very good!	[18:47]
philippeback	Also went to the KDE and Mozilla booths to show off Tiki. With the mozilla people I showed the i18n site and translation facility in Tiki. A i18n guy from mozilla was there and he had some kind of blast showing thaT. Tiki was quite known but capabilities not so much.	[18:48]
chealer	polom sounds great philippeback :-)	[18:52]
philippeback	Promoteam in action :-) And this one is about to go live: http://tiki.socius.be/Start Fully custom look, remade menus with CSS, fully translated in dutch/flemish. Uses trackers, user tracker, CMS, Tiki, Tags, Galleries, Images, ... even some event registration code I've added. This one will be a highly visible site since it deals with the work of adults in the whole flemish region.	[18:53]
chealer	so "log in" is dutch/flemish. I'm not as ignorant as I thought :-) philippeback: great look indeed	[18:56]
philippeback	yeah sure. Look is done by RamDesign, a local firm. Now that they are tiki-aware, I'll have work for them :-)	[18:57]
marclaporte	philippeback: super!	[18:58]
philippeback	Investment is paying off :-) I have started doing videos on my blog and I'll do some on Tiki. In fact, Tiki is going to be my plaform for supporting my coaching work. Is there any progress on the LMS and DMS fronts lately? How's DMS going?	[18:59]
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philippeback	From the promoteam perspective, I do find that we have to crack open the business decision makers nut. And I think I can have the look to do that. BTW, who uses a Mac to work on Tiki ? I used my PC so far but the Mac may provide some interesting integrations with media creation.	[19:02]
marclaporte	DMS: I feel with WebDAV and file galleries, we are quite good. Some use of category transitions with files would be interesting.	[19:04]
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marclaporte	LMS: I think most of the base elements are there, but it needs to be packaged up	[19:04]
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chealer	philippeback: too many people :-) Nelson, Jonny, maybe Xavi	[19:10]
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philippeback	@chealer: thx. Good to know. @marclaporte: yep. I will have to work with DMS features because there is a ton of doc to store and index in that project with the internal Tiki. I'll do a check tomorrow. But I realize that when I do help people get up to speed, things go fast. When left to their own devices, they stall. Maybe should we think about some kind of hosted Tiki facility. Anybody willing to contribute funding?	[19:16]
ricks99	ricks99 coming in late... reading back log... need to revive/revisit http://tiki.org/Tiki+Webinars maybe host a monthly "welcome to tiki" show & tell. publicize like crazy to attract/energize user community	[19:21]
philippeback	Yes @ricks99 I am going to write this trackers article and get it to you. BTW, check http://youtube.com/philippeback for some vids I did (these were on modeling but will give you and idea on voice and style)	[19:24]
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chealer	ricks99: did you get mails sent to info@tiki.org about Tiki Service Prodivers? providers, even	[19:29]
ricks99	havent checked. but y, they get routed to me	[19:30]
chealer	ricks99: I was wondering what 3rd party integration means	[19:30]
ricks99	purposely vague.. for example, i want to integrate EventBrite with Tiki's calendar. i would categorize the cclite stuff as 3rd party integration.	[19:31]
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ricks99	bbb etc that was the idea, anyway	[19:31]
chealer	ricks99: OK. maybe that should be grouped with Custom Programming	[19:33]
ricks99	i see 'custom programming' as... writing a custom module, extending a tiki feature, etc. my main goal was to simply make the listings "look" more "professional" fwiw. i didnt think a simple bulleted list of consultants sent the right image i had sent out a quesitonnaire several months earlier trying to get feedback for categories.	[19:33]
chealer	yes, I didn't mean they should be merged, just listed side by side	[19:35]
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ricks99	ahh.. thats easy	[19:35]
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chealer	ricks99: how, all links to consultants seem to point to Xavi's	[19:37]
ricks99	?	[19:37]
chealer	I suppose &itemId=? is being ignored because there is no question mark	[19:37]
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chealer	ricks99: for example, your link brings to Xavi's page: http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant&itemId=1029	[19:38]
ricks99	hm... odd if im logged in, its fine	[19:38]
chealer	hum, the itemId isn't ignored. I don't understand at first sight	[19:39]
ricks99	better now?	[19:41]
chealer	ricks99: hum, somewhat but it's still not normal. it worked when I logged in (I was originally anonymous), but now it's not OK back as anonymous	[19:42]
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chealer	I get a list of all consultants	[19:42]
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chealer	the URL changed, it's a question mark instead of a &	[19:43]
ricks99	sometimes the page is being cached i noticed even though i specify NO cache start a new search, seems working to me	[19:43]
chealer	ricks99: hum, looks like it always gets cached, and Xavi got cached ricks99: now I got myself cached	[19:45]
ricks99	it uses a wiki page as pretty tracker template. I wonder if i have a cache turned on for the template page.... verifying/turning off all wiki page-specific cahes caches	[19:46]
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ricks99	seems ok now for me. u?	[19:50]
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ricks99	https://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1075 opens ur profile page, as expected (for me) and page is not cached (again, as expected)	[19:51]
chealer	hum, just got 2 crashes on info :-(	[19:51]
ricks99	odd. i'm on (and logged in) no issues for me	[19:52]
chealer	ricks99: it persists (as anonymous) it seems I'm cached	[19:52]
ricks99	cached locally on ur browser maybe? working for me (as anon). both your NAME link and MORE link open the correct profile page.	[19:53]
chealer	ricks99: hum, it continues but it seems more strange now. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't	[19:55]
ricks99	(although info.t.o now seems to be running at a glacially slow pace)	[19:55]
chealer	I don't think it's cached on the browser, they're different URLs too	[19:55]
ricks99	ah frack think i see it ricks99 is a freakin' idiot sometimes...	[19:57]
chealer	ricks99: you think you know what's wrong?	[19:57]
ricks99	y 1 sec...	[19:58]
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ricks99	back i believe its fixed now. just did several searches as anon and logged in. links correctly opened	[20:06]
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xavi	polom quick question how cna I scape html tags in smarty templates?	[20:36]
sylvieg	>... ???	[20:37]
xavi	I have some R code in a text area field in a tracker... ah, good! thanks for tip sylvieg I knew it had to be easy... :-)	[20:37]
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xavi	mmm but the thing is that I have this code in a tracker field:	[20:38]
sylvieg	I bet it does not work :-(	[20:38]
xavi	targets<-read.table(file=file.path(dataDir, targetsFileName), header=T, sep=" ") and when show that in a wiki page (trackerlist plugin using a wiki page as template, etc, in proposals/6x)...	[20:39]
luciash	xavi: ~gt~	[20:39]
xavi	... it breaks just after "targets"	[20:39]
sylvieg	what type is the field? textarea?	[20:39]
xavi	so, it seems that "<-" breaks the display of the content of that field but that is real R syntax, which is stored in text area field in a tracker... so my question is: how can I allow users to write or paste real R code in a text area, and have that code properly displayed in a wiki page?	[20:40]
luciash	ah, u need to put \|escape modifier on that $f_XX then in the PTT wiki page	[20:41]
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sylvieg	{$f_xxx\|escape:html} ??? see http://www.smarty.net/docsv2/en/language.modifier.escape.tpl	[20:42]
luciash	yes	[20:42]
xavi	ah, great! thanks!!! xavi testing it	[20:42]
sylvieg	luciash: welcome in the QT team	[20:43]
luciash	sylvieg: ah, so is it official ? :) thanks	[20:44]
sylvieg	sylvieg can not follow devel list, commit lkist too many posts... if somebody soens not trust you in tiki ... nobody can be trusted ;-)	[20:44]
luciash	i should add myself on the wiki somewhere i guess g	[20:44]
sylvieg	s/soens/does	[20:44]
xavi	congrats luciash for that new role, btw	[20:48]
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marclaporte	yay luci!	[20:49]
xavi	well, that kind of partly worked {$f_xxx\|escape:html}. I see , in addition, that I need to escape wiki somehow also I mean, this syntax in that text area: stopifnot(require(limma, lib.loc = mylib)) which is also R syntax, gets converted into some weird <a href> tag <p> stopifnotlimma, lib.loc = mylib<a href="tiki-editpage.php?page=limma%2C+lib.loc+%3D+mylib" title="Create page: limma, lib.loc = mylib" class="wiki wikinew require">?</a>	[20:49]
sylvieg	{literal}???	[20:50]
luciash	xavi: hehe, that's the alias syntax ;)	[20:50]
xavi	well, I tried literal in the template, but that prevented the {$f_xxx\|escape:html} from being parsed yes, luciash, I thought so :-) ok, I'll go the easy way (disabling alias links)	[20:50]
luciash	xavi: can u nest it ?	[20:51]
xavi	anyway, besides that, I got some other line broken this syntax: targets <- read.table(file=file.path(dataDir, targetsFileName), header=T, sep=" ") .... ah well, it might also be due to alias links... ok, I'll disable it first bbl (dinner time). Hopefully, I'll test later	[20:52]
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xavi	back quickly sylvieg, fyi: I also tried adding the {literal} r syntax {/literal} tags inside the text area content , and not in the wiki page template but no success: the first literal tag is shown in the wiki page but not the second...	[21:04]
sylvieg	fast food...	[21:06]
xavi	because it stops with the <- syntax he he nope, dinner not ready yet (I just had the table ready - I'm not the cook today :-) )	[21:06]
luciash	perhaps we need to add :wiki to the escape modifier then ;)	[21:06]
sylvieg	and <- breaks also ??	[21:07]
xavi	didn't try: I'll try right now	[21:07]
luciash	sylvieg: it is the problem now (( )) sylvieg: i guess the escape:html worked fine for the first problem with <-	[21:07]
sylvieg	parsing changes each release - hard to follow	[21:08]
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luciash	xavi: did u try to put {CODE()}...{CODE} around the {$f_XXX\|escape} ?	[21:09]
xavi	~lt~ worked to avoid the problem with < however, nowadays I have the content display limited " targets <- read.table(file=file.path(dataDir, t..." notice the "..." displayed	[21:09]
luciash	or ~np~...~/np~	[21:10]
xavi	ok, I'l try also what you say, luciash, with the plugin code in smarty syntax at the smarty template	[21:10]
luciash	that does the list type	[21:10]
xavi	np didn't work, I tried already bbl (dinner)	[21:11]
luciash	yea, i also noticed ~np~ is broken nowadays... another regression	[21:11]
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sylvieg	luciash: a good way to converge perhaps is to put all the broken parsing in the test unit	[21:26]
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philippeback	See you for now. Bye.	[21:28]
luciash	bye philippeback	[21:28]
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luciash	sylvieg: i don't know how to	[21:28]
RavenC	Tiki 6.1 - Q: Did some test entries into a bug tracker. Time to clean house to use now. Deleted one entry, no issue, went to delete second entry and received Error: Sea Surfing (CSRF) detected. Operation blocked. Any ideas ?	[21:28]
luciash	close the other browser window or disable the feature CSRF	[21:29]
sylvieg	luciash: look at lib/test/TikiLib/WikiParserTest.php	[21:29]
RavenC	ok, thanks luciash :)	[21:30]
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lmnt	How does the profile repository setup work? I am having trouble accessing it behind a firewall and need to know what I need to open to allow it to work? tiki version 6, fresh install	[21:32]
marclaporte	lmnt: I will try now	[21:33]
lmnt	i installed on another server outside of where i am now and it works at my current location i have a web filter and a firewall, i have cleared access in both for the machine tw6 is installed on but still it wont connect	[21:33]
chealer	RavenC: did you have several browser windows/tabs open at the same time?	[21:36]
marclaporte	lmnt: I just tested a profile and it works	[21:38]
RavenC	no, actually just the current one i reloaded the page and was able to delete the rest without issue	[21:38]
marclaporte	lmnt: so, yes, likely firewall issue	[21:40]
lmnt	i can see in the logs of the web filter that initially it was blocked, but now it is being allowed so I know its not the webfilter double checking firewall...	[21:40]
marclaporte	try this page: http://profiles.tiki.org/profiles	[21:41]
lmnt	That fixed it, I put that in the repository setup on the advanced tab and now I have a green dot! thx! I had an extra "/" at the end	[21:42]
marclaporte	ah lmnt: that should have been the default, no?	[21:42]
lmnt	yes i believe so, I might have changed it before I cleared the access in the webfilter and firewall	[21:44]
marclaporte	ok good point, I will add a note	[21:46]
lmnt	thanks for the help	[21:47]
marclaporte	lmnt: there is already a reset to defaut there my pleasure	[21:49]
sylvieg	somebody broke the tabs in trunk with darkroom... there tabs are too large	[21:50]
marclaporte	fixed width is not working for me in trunk with default theme	[21:50]
sylvieg	trunk is bumpy these days.. does somebody remember where teh setting of all perms to y when tiki_p_admin is on? is done? found it lib/setup/perms.php	[21:53]
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xavi	back	[22:07]
luciash	wb	[22:07]
xavi	testing plugin code inside the smarty wiki page template thks	[22:08]
luciash	did anyone experience where tiki after saving something (a wiki page, admin panel, ...) it every time does blank page and after reload it saves correctly ? reload and resubmits it is it's like "i won't save that, it's too much! ... ok, if you really really want it, i will save it" :-p	[22:08]
xavi	no idea how can I allow more content from the text area field (from a tracker) to be displayed in a wiki page by means of the trackerlist plugin? it currently cuts the content after a few lines	[22:14]
luciash	disable the type="list" param remove	[22:16]
xavi	ok, testing it...	[22:16]
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xavi	luciash: I don't have that param trackerlist plugin is as follows: s/TRACKERLIST}/{TRACKERLIST}	[22:18]
luciash	ah, hmm, is that copypaste ?	[22:20]
xavi	yes	[22:20]
luciash	hmm, so how got that syntax error there in ? ;)	[22:20]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32539 10/trunk/ (db/tiki.sql installer/schema/20110209_p_list_users_tiki.sql): [FIX]users: tiki_p_list_users is now used outside the feature	[22:20]
luciash	nevermind, i don't know thatn, the truncation is usually done when you put that list or whatever param in there s/thatn/than/	[22:21]
xavi	he he, the {TRACKERLIST} was in a scond line, and I just copied into the same line as the rest to paste iton irc (and I made a mistake at copy & pasting time)	[22:21]
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luciash	:) xavi: don't u use \|truncate modifier on the field ?	[22:21]
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luciash	xavi: or don't u limit it in the options of the field in tracker fields setup ?	[22:23]
xavi	aha, that looks like the reason... :-) you have a very fresh head at this time of the day still! great!	[22:24]
luciash	heheh :) it's my working mid-day ;)	[22:24]
xavi	:-) xavi waving at luciash you got it, that's it (params of the tracekr field definition) thanks! :-)	[22:25]
luciash	ur welcome	[22:28]
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xavi	sylvieg and luciash: last question for today: how can I avoid wiki parsing in that content displayed from a text area field in a wiki page with trackerlist by means of a smarty template in a wiki page? I can avoid (foo( bar )) from being considered a wiki link by adding some space between "))"... ... but the R code to paste has many comments , which start with "#" (or "###"), and thus, they are parsed as numbered headings or something else (spaces), but not left as comments...	[22:54]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r32540 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [MOD] change permission level for allowing use of the wiki import in the editor	[22:56]
xavi	I wish there was a param in trackerlist plugin (or elsewhere) to prevent wiki parsing...	[22:56]
luciash	xavi: that CODE plugin didn't work ?	[22:56]
xavi	I tried with ~np~ ~/np~ but it didn't work	[22:56]
luciash	bt CODE ? but	[22:56]
xavi	and plugin code was not being parsed...	[22:56]
luciash	what do u mean ?	[22:57]
xavi	I tried with {literal}{CODE()}{/literal} r syntax {literal}{CODE}{/literal} but it didn't work (plugin code tags were shown)	[22:57]
luciash	no i meant without literal sure if u put them in literal, they will not parse	[22:57]
xavi	and in smarty syntax didn't work either... (I don't remember why): {wikiplugin _name=code} r syntax {wikiplugin} ah, ok, testing then to add plugin code tags inside the textarea tracker field content...	[22:58]
luciash	i meant {CODE()}{$f_XX\|escape:html}{CODE}	[22:59]
xavi	he he, that didn't work the best, luciash: many html tags were shown but thnks to all your comments, I got the easiest solution: which is adding {CODE()} r syntax {CODE} inside the textarea field in the tracker and escaping html in the smarty that works nicely! thanks for all your feedback! time for bed, after I got some solution for this issue g'night and thanks again :-)	[23:03]
luciash	xavi: what about this ? → {capture name="bar" assign="foo"}{$f_XX\|escape:html}{/capture}{CODE()}{$foo}... ? ok	[23:05]
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luciash	but then your users need to insert it manually ? impatient guys :-p	[23:05]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r32541 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [MOD] change permission level for allowing use of the wiki import in the editor - trunk v32540	[23:06]
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xavi	polom-back jquery question... if anyone mastering jquery is around... I did write this example: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJQ#Example_1 and it worked nicely however, I'm trying to use it in a very similar use case (with drop down + other instead of just text fields) and I don't seem to get it working.... Page is... https://161.116.82.31/tiki/BasicPipe+Section+14	[23:52]
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xavi	if any jquery master around, i can provide an account for you to see the html generated, etc. and/or the jquery code used even if it's pretty much the same as in the example: one checkbox which controls the display of either a text area (if checked) and many drop down+other (if unchecked) until the end of the page xavi has a meeting tomorrow with my research group, and I was trying to have everything working as much as possible	[23:56]
luciash	lemme have a look	[23:58]
xavi	ok, thks	[23:58]

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