#tikiwiki 2011-02-10,Thu

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Kent_	Can anyone think of what could prevent any user with the perms, even the admin user, from editing or creating wiki pages?	[00:02]
xavi	Kent_: error 500 in the server? I'm not sure if I understand your question or scenario...	[00:05]
Kent_	When anyone tries to edit a page, or create a new one, it just redirects to the HomePage. Nothing else happens. No on can create or edit a page.	[00:06]
xavi	Kent_: just in case, disable the "redirect on error" setting	[00:06]
Kent_	Did that. cleared cache	[00:06]
xavi	did you disable .htacess for a while (for curiosity)? rewrite rules are there...	[00:07]
Kent_	no. I can try	[00:07]
	No help. It clobbers the sef urls of course, but even going to http://debbiehanlonconnection.com/tiki-editpage.php?page=Contact redirects to the HomePage (which 404s because of the sefurl) Although the page itself http://debbiehanlonconnection.com/tiki-index.php?page=Contact presents as normal. Just disappears in a redirect when you click Edit	[00:14]
xavi	did you disable ajax and xajax? (just in case) I mean, what you get is a weird effect that I've never seen before, but looks like some ajax weirdness, or redirection weirdness, or rewrite rule weirdnes... I would suggest that you double check that all your files in teh server are ok (synchronize with your local copy of that tiki version ,etc)	[00:16]
Kent_	Weren't on... Ah so, Ajax turned on by in WSIWYG profile. No help turning off ajax none of the files seem to be modified since last update that I can see. And this just started awhile ago after working on it all day. All year really, so this is pretty distressing.	[00:17]
xavi	Kent_: no idea, sorry. but looking weird for sure Kent_: for curiosity: which tiki version are you at?	[00:32]
Kent_	6.1	[00:33]
xavi	shared hosting? svn or ftp? of ssh I mean or ssh I mean	[00:33]
Kent_	ftp	[00:34]
xavi	did you double check that some file was not missing or corrupted at ftp upload? some ftp programs allows synchronizing (analyzing first) between local and remote and they are very handy to detect weirdnesses in files while doing long ftp uploads, etc	[00:34]
Kent_	nothing has changed since this morning that I can tell except the css file the files were uploaded last month	[00:36]
xavi	except the css file :-) which theme style are you using right now? is this an old one? did you try using some standard theme style from 6.x, and see if the same issue happens? (changing css also changes tpl's in some themes...) was that a clean 6.x intall, or you did upgrade from a previous tiki version?	[00:37]
Kent_	yeah, I've done nothing today but tweak borders and stuff. It's a styled-up News.css	[00:38]
xavi	thenews.css?	[00:38]
Kent_	yes, started with that	[00:39]
xavi	just in case, un-minify .css and un-minify .js (under admin > performance) and ensure that you don't have gzip compression enabled in the same admin panel	[00:39]
Kent_	None of that was on.	[00:40]
xavi	ok	[00:40]
Kent_	and it's the same in FiveAlive	[00:41]
xavi	getting out of ideas then :-7 :-/	[00:41]
Kent_	well, I guess I'll have to reupload the files	[00:44]
chealer	Kent_: could you let us see the problem for ourselves?	[00:48]
Kent_	you bet. One moment	[00:50]
marclaporte	SourceForge has a new look: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/	[00:51]
Kent_	chealer user Tiki pword Wiki6 that user is in technical and admin groups so should be able to do anything	[00:53]
xavi	Kent_: remember to change that later... this chat is logged, and the logs are plublicly available for anyone	[00:55]
Kent_	right ta	[00:56]
chealer	Kent_: can I temporarily disable Search engine-friendly URLs?	[01:03]
Kent_	you bet	[01:03]
chealer	there is a 302 Moved Temporarily redirecting to HomePage Kent_: when did it start to your best knowledge?	[01:06]
Kent_	after dinner ;-) working right up till then	[01:08]
chealer	Kent_: you're the only admin and just worked on CSS files today?	[01:09]
Kent_	I'm the only admin, but I worked on lots today. but didn't modify any php files	[01:10]
chealer	Kent_: do you have backups?	[01:10]
Kent_	I just made a dump of the SQL I can have the server rewound to yesterday but that loses the day.	[01:11]
chealer	Kent_: in which environment does Tiki run?	[01:13]
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Kent_	environment? apache on CENTos	[01:14]
chealer	Kent_: OK. could you backup the current state of the database, go back to yesterday, test and then back to the current? how long would that take you?	[01:15]
Kent_	Not sure. Have to request the rewind. I'm about to try importing it into another db first.	[01:16]
chealer	Kent_: hard to say. I would ask on forums and if nobody knows I would look at an xdebug function trace	[01:30]
Kent_	Thanks chealer. I'm going to hook it up to another tiki database and see if it works. Then see what's what from there.	[01:33]
chealer	Kent_: or get the Tiki database on another install if it's not too big, one where you'll be able to install xdebug	[01:34]
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thraxisp	Hi. My ISP just killed one of my sites because of excessive CPU use on a shared server. The problem looks like a calendar lookup. Is this a known issue in 6.0?	[02:10]
ricks99	are you using gzip or any of the performance options? fwiw, current version is 6.1 -- not 6.0	[02:15]
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thraxisp	ricks99: I think I used the defaults. (I can't check because they cut off all access to the site).	[02:27]
ricks99	not sure. i have several tiki 6.x sites with calendars. some running on shared hosting, too, and have never had excessive cpu issues. can you check the server logs? maybe site was being attacked or spammed?	[02:29]
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thraxisp	That is my plan. I was going to update to 6.1 at the same time. ricks99: thanks.	[02:33]
ricks99	good luck	[02:36]
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Kent_	Well I put another domain on that server and another tiki and it worked, then I imported the db and it was successful, but the problem came with it. So, it's something in the db and I have no idea what.	[03:21]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3790 - - Database engine is inconsistent on hosts with non-MyISAM default engines. - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3790	[05:03]
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creativemetro	hello tiki users! anyone out there? I am looking for help with a few things on my new site. I am new to tiki and have been working hard learning it, but there are still some things I am stuck on. Anyone good with banners?	[12:04]
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creativemetro	allo?	[12:16]
ricks99	Hi creativemetro What is your question?	[12:17]
creativemetro	hi. I am looking for help with banners and a few other things.	[12:17]
ricks99	ok	[12:18]
creativemetro	Using Google analytics, calendar problems, making backups. Can you help?	[12:18]
ricks99	I'll try.	[12:19]
creativemetro	Thanks	[12:19]
ricks99	What are you questions? Have you reviewed the docs	[12:19]
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creativemetro	I have been thorugh many docs, used Tiki for Smarties, but I still need to connect mentally Let's start with setting up Analytics, yes?	[12:20]
ricks99	ok	[12:20]
jonnyb	poloms in the rain	[12:21]
ricks99	ricks99 returns the polum... from the snow	[12:21]
creativemetro	Is there a step-by-step doc for that?	[12:21]
ricks99	Are you using Google Analytics?	[12:21]
creativemetro	Would like to	[12:21]
ricks99	What Tiki version are you using?	[12:22]
creativemetro	6	[12:22]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32544 10/trunk/lib/prefslib.php: [FIX] profiles: Another system modified pref (there will be more)	[12:22]
ricks99	you can simply add the code to Tiki on the Look & Feel page, in the "end of <body> code "area Also, I would upgrade to the latest 6.1	[12:23]
creativemetro	ok. putting the code there is akin to adding it to each page as Google instructs?	[12:23]
YossiN	I try to install tikiwiki via fantastico (cpanel) and it doesn't recore Hebrew text. is it because it's 5.2?	[12:23]
ricks99	I assume you want analytics for the entire site, yes? Not a single page?	[12:23]
creativemetro	Yes	[12:23]
ricks99	yes. It will appear at the end of the <body> for every Tiki page	[12:23]
creativemetro	Thank you. Is that all needed?	[12:24]
ricks99	yes	[12:24]
YossiN	how do I tell TikiWiki to accept Hebrew text (5.2)?	[12:25]
creativemetro	Ok. Next issue is calendar. This is a big feature to my site and I feel limitations. I cannot find a way to repeat events on a monthly basis such as first Friday of the month. Also, can't copy event that may repeat 3 days in a row at different times.	[12:26]
ricks99	When you create an event, you can specify if it repeats	[12:27]
creativemetro	Yes, but the repeat for monthly seems to only be on a date such as 8th of the month. Is there a way to get "second Wednesday"?	[12:28]
ricks99	not sure if that is supported	[12:28]
creativemetro	Secondly, if I repeat an event that happens for three days, but the time changes, I have to re-enter the whole thing and change the time manually, which takes a lot of time. It's not as simple as copying the event and changing the time, nor can it be repeated with different times daily.	[12:29]
ricks99	as designed. a 'reapating' event is assumed to be identical (same time). if at different times, it is a different event	[12:29]
creativemetro	Right, this poses some serious time issues with a community that has lots of events. :( How do I suggest changes to developers?	[12:30]
ricks99	if they're different times, they're different events afaik You can add items to the bug tracker and wish list on dev.tiki.org	[12:30]
creativemetro	Yay! I will. Ok, maybe you can help me to understand how I can use banners for my advertisers.	[12:30]
ricks99	OK	[12:31]
creativemetro	I have theme "business". It may be limiting my usage, but I'd like to use banners to sell ad space.	[12:31]
ricks99	ok Did you create a bannerzone?	[12:32]
creativemetro	I have, but do not understand how it works I had an ad that showed up in a module	[12:32]
ricks99	ok	[12:33]
creativemetro	I want to have ads that aren't bordered by the module Full-size to the edges of the div	[12:33]
ricks99	you can use the nobox param for the module	[12:34]
creativemetro	I don't know how to get rid of the edges. The module manager has this option, but it will not work when used. So, does the theme have some sort of override to the param? Also, how can I find out the actual size of the module area?	[12:34]
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ricks99	are you putting the module in a column? or adding it via the MODULE plugin? If in a column, the width is dependent on the theme. Some themes have wider columns than others the width of the overall columns are specified in the css (#col1, #col2, and #col3 iirc)	[12:35]
creativemetro	I don't understand the difference. This is a variable center column with 2 fixed module columns on right/left. creativemetro.com Perhaps I need some schooling on how banners work. And modules.	[12:36]
ricks99	the width of your left column (where you have the ARTICLES) plugin is defined by #col2 it is 280px (from your theme)	[12:37]
creativemetro	ok, where do you find that?	[12:38]
ricks99	in the css	[12:38]
creativemetro	looking	[12:39]
ricks99	your ADVERTISMENT module is in the right columns (#col3) which is also 280px. but the module has a 25px padding, so the actual width of the module is ~200px you might find http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Which+CSS+Style+to+Edit helpful in determining which CSS style to modify	[12:39]
creativemetro	got it, so if I used nobox it will still have padding and look indented unless I create new class?	[12:40]
ricks99	y, but not sure if nobox param can be used on all modules or only via the MODULE plugin (can't remember, but can try)	[12:41]
creativemetro	right, it doesn't even seem to work with this theme At least, I don't know how. Anyway, I would like to use banners or some tool to create a way for feed to run under the nav bar. Perhaps this is another tool?	[12:41]
ricks99	use the center column content area in the admin: Look & Feel page and add your {bannner ... } there	[12:43]
creativemetro	So, is there a good doc for how to use banners? I just don't understand them yet	[12:45]
ricks99	http://doc.tiki.org/banners	[12:45]
creativemetro	Thanks, but that is so simplistic. I understand usability, but I guess I don't get how to customize "zones", specify content and area of display.	[12:47]
ricks99	a zone is simply a named content area. you need to create an ad, then assign it to a specific zone, then display the zone in Tiki (such as in a module or the custom center column area) Did you create a Zone?	[12:48]
jonnyb	bbl	[12:49]
creativemetro	I was helped to create one. I found a page: http://doc.tiki.org/Banner+Admin&highlight=zones	[12:49]
ricks99	OK. did you create a new banner and assign it to the zone?	[12:50]
creativemetro	Still doesn't give instructions on how to create zone Uuuh, I have only used modules for this	[12:50]
ricks99	http://doc.tiki.org/Banner+Admin#Creating_a_banner_zone explains how to create a banner zone	[12:51]
creativemetro	ah, thanks K, well, I guess I need to devote some time to practicing that. How about backing up my site?	[12:52]
ricks99	http://twessentials.keycontent.org/What+to+Backup	[12:53]
creativemetro	Great. Thank you very much. Are you familiar with the Directory feature?	[12:54]
ricks99	y	[12:55]
creativemetro	I am using under the resources tab of my site and am wanting to sort and "pretty" up the list. Is this possible?	[12:55]
ricks99	can modify the css or add ur own custom styling, as needed	[12:56]
creativemetro	Well, does it work like trackers where you can use plugins to sort and change look?	[12:57]
ricks99	no. but you could use trackers instead of the directory feature. this would allow much greater control	[12:59]
creativemetro	right, that's what I was wondering about. But what is the strong point of directory then?	[13:00]
ricks99	If you simply want a way to collect and present a group of links, it is very quick & easy	[13:01]
creativemetro	I do like that, but need additional sorting and presentation.	[13:01]
ricks99	For example: http://keycontent.org/tiki-directory_browse.php	[13:01]
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creativemetro	Thanks for all your help. I think I need to spend some time on this. Are you on chat often?	[13:02]
ricks99	you can easily sort ur directory http://creativemetro.com/tiki-directory_browse.php?parent=4 yes, you might also consider posting questions to the support fourms, too	[13:02]
creativemetro	I need to have a full list in list mode on the main link and sort list by categories on other sub-tabs I don't want the end user to have to interact with the sort to get shat they want what they want	[13:03]
ricks99	Tiki is highly flexible. you can create menu items however you want	[13:04]
creativemetro	I am using trackers with plugins for other pages, but directory seems to have limitations on sort feature I will keep working on this. And I'm sure I'll be back to chat as well. Thanks for your time!	[13:05]
ricks99	you're welcome	[13:06]
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ricks99	ping chealer are you still having issues on the conslutants list? I've tested on multiple PCs, multiple browsers, multiple ISPs and seems fine now. let me know...	[13:10]
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RavenC	polom	[13:16]
ricks99	wolod	[13:17]
RavenC	lol gonna be one of those days huh ;)	[13:17]
ricks99	just watching the snow	[13:17]
RavenC	seems to be a popular pasttime this year	[13:18]
ricks99	ricks99 hates snow	[13:20]
RavenC	RavenC awoke to 67 degrees this am :p	[13:21]
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SDuensin	Morning.	[14:38]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32545 10/third_party/jquery/ (198 files in 9 dirs): [MOD] jquery.js and jquery-ui.js updates (to 1.5.0 and 1.8.9)	[15:51]
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tompos	hi is there anybody online? I'm trying to install tiki on hardy, but something is wrong After the step "Review the System Requirements" I get an empty white page there is now next step or something On Lucid it's working	[15:52]
jonnyb	hi tompos - which version of tiki? (not spotted a difference like this personally)	[15:54]
tompos	6.1 I tried to change many things,. nothing helped Have you tried on Hardy?	[15:56]
ricks99	did u review the platform-specific install guides?	[15:57]
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jonnyb	not for a long time - been on debian for a while (but thinking if switching back)	[15:57]
radek82	yeah, the white page is a PITA. check your httpd error logs to see whats going on	[15:58]
jonnyb	tompos: do you have anything in your apache error.log?	[15:58]
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tompos	no, I don't where are those guides? I can find only the common guide	[16:01]
ricks99	see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Installation+Guides	[16:03]
luciash	RavenC: 67 degrees out of normal sleeping position ? :D polom everyone	[16:04]
tompos	hehe, that's interesting in the howto: sudo apt-get install sendmail who does use sendmail these days? anyway, there is no new information about the installation job	[16:04]
jonnyb	can you try changing the error reporting settings in your php.ini?	[16:08]
luciash	s/out/off/ (i guess) hi jonnyb luciash going to check QT mails	[16:12]
jonnyb	thx :)	[16:13]
RavenC	@luciash: lol	[16:14]
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tompos	there is none of a error message BTW, this the URL: http://rtfm.co.hu/tiki/tiki-install.php	[16:16]
jonnyb	ok, i see the same WSoD (white screen of death) - but no help it will be a php fatal error and should be logged somewhere unless logging is disabled without the error it's hard to know what else to suggest, sorry i guess you could compare the phpinfo with the one that works (on Lucid?) maybe a lib is missing if you find it let us know so we can catch it	[16:21]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32548 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] preview: Curiously missing JS for magnifier toggle preview button	[16:23]
tompos	if the is a log mjessage, I'll let you know:) thanks	[16:27]
marclaporte	jonnyb: tks for jQuery updates	[16:27]
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jonnyb	no probs - haven't spotted any difference so far (or problems, so that's good)	[16:28]
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marclaporte	jonnyb: before you start on mobile, you saw my mail about feature check for modules being too restrictive?	[16:29]
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jonnyb	yes, getting to that one (have a little themegen issue to fix also)	[16:30]
marclaporte	tks	[16:31]
chealer	polom	[16:34]
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robertplummer	chibaguy: xavi mentioned that you had interest in putting some type of auto scrolling cotent pane in Tiki, is that right? chibaguy: as is shown here - http://zukakakina.com/jShowOff+demo chibaguy: I'm currently working on getting a licence, but what do you think about - http://css-tricks.com/examples/AnythingSlider/ ?	[16:39]
chibaguy	ah, well, I used that as an external script, and xavi and I were saying it'd be neat if it was part of tiki.	[16:41]
robertplummer	I think the anythingslider is kinda the first but much more refined.	[16:41]
jonnyb	polom robertplummer	[16:43]
robertplummer	hey jonnyb	[16:43]
chibaguy	chibaguy waiting for browser to start up again....	[16:43]
robertplummer	(polom)	[16:43]
jonnyb	anythingslider looks good - but i haven't read the code, does it look tiki-fyable? i am a little suspicious that they don't seem to know about proper licensing...	[16:43]
robertplummer	jonnyb: I just tested and commited sheet w/ jQuery 1.5, works great imho.	[16:44]
luciash	robertplummer: why not use the SCROLL wikiplugin ?	[16:44]
jonnyb	super, sorry i didn't check much - mainly ajax stuff	[16:44]
robertplummer	Yea, it bothers me too, but I remember another project that sometime back didn't have any as well, and is now a part of tiki :)	[16:45]
jonnyb	do you see the alleged speed improvements?	[16:45]
luciash	at least from the description of the plugin i thought it si what it does	[16:45]
jonnyb	:)	[16:45]
robertplummer	Yea, it seems a little faster. I've switched sheet over to children rather than find, but I can't really tell. I'm using mostly chrome now since ff went belly up with speed, and it is just fast all the time.	[16:45]
jonnyb	there are probably lots of finds in tiki-jquery.js that could be improved too	[16:46]
chibaguy	I like jshowoff because it is easy to use in the wiki page, and is pretty configurable in terms of controls display, etc.	[16:46]
jonnyb	indeed, same for sarafi	[16:46]
chibaguy	http://ekallevig.com/jshowoff/	[16:47]
robertplummer	sharp!	[16:48]
chibaguy	It was just right for the particular site that wanted that kind of display.	[16:48]
marclaporte	I like the name!	[16:48]
robertplummer	lol	[16:48]
chibaguy	vacommunity.org	[16:48]
robertplummer	it certainly does show it off.... I think they are both good projects, but I still think that anythingslider is more refined.	[16:48]
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robertplummer	But they are so close it really doesn't matter.	[16:49]
chibaguy	robertplummer: by more refined, do you mean the code, or the appearance, or...?	[16:50]
robertplummer	At this time I'm scheduled to integrate both projects, anythingslider for nelson, the other for xavi. I'd like to cut it to one, the more capable and appealing of the 2. chibaguy: yes nelson's will remain private if not proper licence	[16:50]
jonnyb	chibaguy: why is .description defined as display:block in layout.css? it means span.description isn't a span any more... seems less flexible but i guess there's a reason	[16:51]
chibaguy	jonnyb, I don't recall now. there is a #description and a .description but I don't recall the details.	[16:53]
jonnyb	+1 for only having one slideshow plugin - let's kil infinite-carousel too if we can (it was only ever in experimental) jonnyb greps for descriptions	[16:53]
chibaguy	it doesn't matter to me which slideshow is used, the most versatile and the easiest to use in wiki text would be fine for me. I (and other people) can always add another script for a site if necessary.	[16:55]
jonnyb	we can/should add a wiki-plugin (or extend files) to make it nice	[16:55]
radek82	in trackers item link works properly right?	[16:55]
robertplummer	does anyone know of a javascript to php converter? This is not for serverside or userside dom.	[16:55]
radek82	i broke a tracker and can't figure out how	[16:56]
chibaguy	I also like this: http://dev.herr-schuessler.de/jquery/popeye/ http://dev.herr-schuessler.de/jquery/popeye/demo.html more of an inline image viewer	[16:57]
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chibaguy	... with extras	[16:59]
jonnyb	from a brief check i like the look of jshowoff - seems versatile, licensed and professional - but not activity for about a year...	[17:00]
chibaguy	seems like these slideshow scripts tend to be short-term projects, doesn't it?	[17:01]
robertplummer	chibaguy: It is like that with many jquery scripts.	[17:02]
chibaguy	yeah, people seem to do them to solve a problem or something and then move on.	[17:02]
jonnyb	chibaguy: i'm going to remove the description defs from layout, and only define .description in design - #description should be used to functional reasons, rather than styling i think - will rollback if it breaks anything badly...	[17:03]
robertplummer	now that jquery is a part of nearly 50+ of web projects, the new-ness is gone, excitement is exhausted, now it is just work.	[17:03]
chibaguy	jonnyb, that's fine. robertplummer: sorry to hear that ;-)	[17:03]
robertplummer	chibaguy: Just a general statement. I'm still excited!	[17:04]
chibaguy	:-)	[17:04]
robertplummer	jonnyb, have you checked out sheet recently?	[17:04]
chibaguy	time to sleep here. cya all later.	[17:04]
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robertplummer	jonnyb: contextmenus now for top and left bars, working on cell contextmenus too.	[17:05]
jonnyb	cool - must try and catch up on sheet stuff, sorry - distracted :)	[17:06]
robertplummer	jonnyb: stay focused buddy! jonnyb: I was just mentioning it, I'm sure it is a drop in the bucket for you.	[17:06]
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chealer	yes, thanks jonnyb. the jquery update seems good, great if you didn't have to adapt anything. is it completely backwards-compatible?	[17:31]
jonnyb	hi chealer - seems to be ok so far with no changes...	[17:32]
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jonnyb	can anyone remember the issue about comments in installer schema? i just had one not applied starting with two comments...	[18:10]
sylvieg	I do not udnerstand the new abstraction in trackerlib get_field_id_from_type give a db error SELECT `fieldId` FROM `tiki_tracker_fields` WHERE 1=1 AND `trackerId` = '16' AND BINARY `bintype` IN('q', 'k', 'u', 'g', 'I', 'C', 'n', 'j', 'f')	[18:16]
luciash	i never understood abstractions when visiting an art gallery ;)	[18:17]
sylvieg	it is so hard to debug when there is an error now and there is no documentation I suppose	[18:17]
jonnyb	i thought the new db stuff was great sylvieg - not looked at trackers for a while though	[18:18]
sylvieg	I do not like it	[18:18]
jonnyb	:(	[18:18]
sylvieg	no idea if the error is in the abstraction or the use..	[18:19]
jonnyb	brb	[18:19]
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chealer	jonnyb: a schema upgrade script?	[18:20]
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jonnyb	yes 20100114_tiki_actionlog_merge_tiki.sql - the tiki_schema table records it was run (last year) but i don't have the columns it adds... could easily fix my site but would like to find out why it failed	[18:22]
luciash	jonnyb: maybe related to mine, when i didn't get the custom code moved to modules in trunk on upgrade, you remember ?	[18:25]
jonnyb	hmmm, it a worry	[18:25]
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jonnyb	i just deleted the row in schema and re-ran the update and it worked fine - not great...	[18:26]
luciash	jonnyb: s/it/it's/ ?	[18:26]
jonnyb	luciash: hmm?	[18:27]
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YossiN	I need help: I try to install tikiwiki (5.2) with cpanel/fantastico and it doesn't take Hebrew data (it appears to be "???"). on the demo site it works OK. where could be the problem?	[18:27]
jonnyb	oh right - thanks :P	[18:27]
luciash	ok :)	[18:27]
jonnyb	anyway, moving on... (mobile, mmmmmmmmmmmmm!)	[18:28]
luciash	YossiN: is everyithing at your side utf-8 ? mmmmmm :)	[18:28]
chealer	jonnyb: I seem to have it (the client column) on my upgraded sites too	[18:28]
YossiN	what do you mean "everything"? does everything utf8 in opensourcecms.com?	[18:29]
chealer	jonnyb: I seem to remember an issue with comments too, but it's too vague	[18:29]
ricks99	@YossiN: You need to confirm that your database collation is UTF-8	[18:29]
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jonnyb	chealer: yes, i think changi\|away worked it out	[18:30]
YossiN	checking...	[18:30]
luciash	YossiN: yes, your db must be set to utf-8, your default charset on server should be too, etc. you can check when you go to tiki-install.php too	[18:31]
ricks99	@YossiN: check the DB connect, all tables in db, and the charset entry in your db/local.php file. all 3 should be identical UTF-8	[18:31]
YossiN	what directory is tiki-install.php?	[18:31]
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ricks99	@YossiN: tiki-install is in your Tiki home/root	[18:34]
YossiN	looking...	[18:34]
jonnyb	do you think i should add the new mobile stuff as feature_mobile (which was the old hawhaw one) or something else?	[18:35]
YossiN	the database is utf8	[18:36]
chealer	jonnyb: is the module revamps over?	[18:37]
YossiN	to run the tiki-install I need to remove the lock file...	[18:37]
ricks99	You need to check the DB, the tables, and the connection. confirm that all 3 are utf-8. see http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips	[18:37]
jonnyb	probably not - awaiting feedback	[18:37]
sylvieg	jonnyb: it depends what you wnat to do	[18:39]
chealer	jonnyb: as anonymous the page layout is largely broken in my trunk: http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/trunk/tiki-index.php I don't know the cause but it started degrading with the revamp hi ricks99	[18:39]
sylvieg	jonnyb: if I well understand - the only job you have to do when using jquery mobile is the put their classes at the right place	[18:40]
chealer	ricks99: going to re-check the consultants issue	[18:40]
YossiN	where to look in tiki-install.php?	[18:40]
jonnyb	sylvieg: sort of feeling my way at the moment	[18:40]
ricks99	hi chealer. ived tested with multiple pcs/multiple connects seems fine	[18:40]
sylvieg	jonnyb: btw there are still in alpha release - 1 release is in 2 months I think	[18:41]
chealer	ricks99: it's still broken. to reproduce, I first go to http://info.tiki.org/Consultants (in Iceweasel)	[18:41]
ricks99	@YossiN: step 4 of the installer. please see doc: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips	[18:41]
jonnyb	sylvieg: i think it may involve quite a few differences, in tiki.tpl and tiki-jquery.js for instance	[18:42]
ricks99	ricks99 checks the backyard for an 'iceweasel'	[18:42]
sylvieg	jonnyb: yesterdy the guys were asking for new devs for the jquery mobile	[18:42]
jonnyb	sylvieg: which guys?	[18:42]
chealer	ricks99: then I just click Find Tiki Service Providers	[18:42]
ricks99	ok.. so am i...	[18:42]
chealer	ricks99: Iceweasel is basically Debian's name for Firefox	[18:42]
ricks99	ricks99 is windoze guy. has no idea what debian is :-) I see the list of 17 items	[18:43]
sylvieg	jonnyb: scott jehl todd parker	[18:43]
chealer	ricks99: yes, until there that's good ricks99: then, I click with the center button to open your page, and I do the same for mine	[18:43]
ricks99	what exactly did u click	[18:43]
chealer	ricks99: your page comes fine - with you. mine comes but it's about you ricks99: our names (top left)	[18:43]
ricks99	when i click "Philippe Cloutier" i get your page	[18:44]
sylvieg	jonnyb: the link I answer on admin will give in a few days a video of the presentation - it is great	[18:44]
ricks99	i think ur browser is caching something	[18:44]
chealer	the link to http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1029 and http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1075	[18:44]
YossiN	the database connection is UTF8	[18:44]
ricks99	yes, both links work. one is me, one is you	[18:44]
chealer	ricks99: well if my browser is caching, that's still a problem, but I can verify	[18:45]
jonnyb	sylvieg: that sounds good	[18:45]
ricks99	i have win xp, win 7, win vista, ie 7, 8, ff, chrome opera all my combinations worked fine @YossiN: look at your db/local.php file. confirm your charset declaration	[18:45]
YossiN	ricks99: $client_charset = 'utf8' ; tht database tables are utf8_general_ci	[18:46]
ricks99	did u clear all tiki caches?	[18:47]
YossiN	the page encoding is UTF8 what else?	[18:47]
luciash	YossiN: collation	[18:48]
YossiN	collection?	[18:49]
luciash	database collation	[18:49]
chealer	ricks99: it's not browser cache	[18:49]
ricks99	@YossiN: please see the FAQs for complete details, including step-by-step instructions http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki FAQs#Why_is_Tiki_showing_weird_characters_or_other_encoding_issues_ oops	[18:49]
YossiN	the collection was wrong checking	[18:50]
ricks99	http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tiki+FAQs#Why_is_Tiki_showing_weird_characters_or_other_encoding_issues_	[18:50]
chealer	ricks99: I can reproduce easily, but sometimes it works. it seems the quicker you go, the more likely it's wrong. say you switch in less than 3 seconds, you should get the problem	[18:50]
YossiN	yes, the collection was the problem THANKS GUYS	[18:50]
luciash	collation	[18:51]
ricks99	@chealer: easy fix. slow down	[18:51]
luciash	:)	[18:51]
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ricks99	i dont know	[18:51]
luciash	YossiN: good :)	[18:51]
YossiN	luciash & ricks99: you deserve a bottle of beer each of you. should I drink it on your behalf?	[18:52]
luciash	:D	[18:52]
chealer	ricks99: hehe. we could probably go with that advice for now, though sometimes it's quite longer	[18:52]
ricks99	cheers YossiN	[18:53]
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YossiN	bye guys, good to know there is a place where ppl do help ... bye	[18:53]
ricks99	@chealer: can u manually confirm (llok at source) that the links themselves are correct? (the are for me) if the links are generated correctly i have no idea what the issue is	[18:54]
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chealer	ricks99: absolutely, I see the same page for several URLs (itemIds)	[18:56]
ricks99	when you look at the source for the listing (not the profile) all the links are identical??	[18:57]
chealer	ricks99: can you try opening several pages quick? I'm surprised you didn't reproduce on several browsers	[18:57]
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chealer	ricks99: the links are fine, and they open the right URL	[18:57]
ricks99	"they open to the right URL" ????? then what's the issue?	[18:58]
luciash	ricks99, chealer : i have seen that one on another site	[18:59]
chealer	ricks99: the URL doesn't give the right page content	[18:59]
ricks99	which url?	[18:59]
luciash	it was either the wiki caching of the templates or nested trackerlist plugins which caused this weirdness	[18:59]
chealer	luciash: using TRACKERLIST (IIRC)?	[18:59]
luciash	yes	[19:00]
chealer	luciash: interesting. Rick checked the caching yesterday though yesterday the situation was much worst, for anonymous everyone saw Xavi's profile	[19:00]
ricks99	caching on all pages & the wiki tpl is "0"	[19:00]
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chealer	now I guess it's working most of the time	[19:00]
luciash	then he must missed some or it must be nested trackerlist bug	[19:01]
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chealer	luciash: did you solve your problem?	[19:01]
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ricks99	I cannot duplicate. i'm unable to visually understand what is wrong. if tiki is generating the link correctly (ie each person is a different ?trackerId=##) then there shouldnt b an issue, no?	[19:01]
chealer	ricks99: all the URLs for consultants, for example yours	[19:02]
ricks99	my url is 1029	[19:02]
luciash	chealer: yes but unsure how... maybe i needed to add a mising param to explicitly say what user i want to load... i think &tr_user={$f_XX} helped	[19:02]
chealer	ricks99: I just did another test opening Robert's profile then yours. a tab open for Robert with http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1086 displaying his profile ricks99: and a tab opens for you with http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1029 displaying again Robert's profile	[19:03]
ricks99	y http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1086 i get roberts https://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1029 i get me	[19:03]
luciash	chealer: i see ricks on 1029	[19:04]
chealer	ricks99: but if I refresh your page, I see yours, as I should	[19:04]
luciash	chealer: and visited 1086 displaying robert	[19:04]
ricks99	https://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1085 is amette	[19:04]
chealer	luciash: hum. unfortunately I don't know trackers much, in particular plugins	[19:04]
luciash	chealer: logged out (anonymous)	[19:04]
chealer	luciash: yes, it's very important to be logged out	[19:05]
luciash	chealer: so i cannot confirm that issue here	[19:05]
ricks99	http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1044 shows me sylvieg's	[19:05]
luciash	chealer: maybe your iceweasel is caching weird	[19:05]
ricks99	other folks please quickly check ^^^^ links and see who you see.	[19:05]
chealer	yes, in general if you go to a URL it's fine, but not if you just went to a different one ricks99: you're showing https links. are you logged in or not?	[19:05]
luciash	chealer: i just went to roberts and then quickly to ricks and it worked fine chealer: now on 1044 and i see sylvie's	[19:06]
chealer	OK I just reproduced opening the 2 links I pasted on IRC (Robert's and Rick's)	[19:07]
luciash	chealer: sorry, we cannot reproduce	[19:08]
chealer	luciash: I don't think it's cache. the URLs are different luciash: not browser cache, I mean	[19:08]
ricks99	@chealer: just so I fully understand. When you go to http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1086 you see ME -- not robert? but only sometimes?	[19:09]
chealer	luciash: and I verified it with Firebug it's not using cache anyway	[19:09]
ricks99	and only when you switch between pages quickly? and only when linking from the consultants page? not a on a directly url?	[19:09]
chealer	ricks99: only if I saw your profile just before Robert's and yes, it's clear that timing is involved	[19:09]
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ricks99	i'm at a loss	[19:10]
chealer	ricks99: no. as I said, I can reproduce from the links on IRC. but first, are you anonymous or logged in?	[19:10]
ricks99	i have 2 separate browser sessions - 1 logged in, 1 anon cannot reproduce with either	[19:10]
luciash	chealer: we are anonymous, doing the same as you, but all appears fine... believe it or not chealer: only difference is taht i use Opera here	[19:11]
ricks99	ricks99 fingers hurt from switching so quickly...	[19:11]
chealer	ricks99: just use the anon one. here are Robert's link are yours: http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1086 http://info.tiki.org/TikiConsultant?itemId=1029	[19:11]
ricks99	i have ie & ff	[19:11]
luciash	:D	[19:11]
ricks99	1086 opens robert, 1029 shows some ugly guy	[19:12]
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chealer	hum, info menu not displaying great in Opera 11	[19:12]
ricks99	as anon	[19:12]
chealer	ricks99: hehe I'll try reproducing in Opera	[19:12]
ricks99	i'll flush the tiki cache on info.t.o (again)	[19:13]
luciash	bbl, bed-time story time now	[19:13]
chealer	I have no problem reproducing in Opera neither good night luciash, thank you	[19:14]
YossiN	in mytiki contacks, is there a way to set "bolb" field and not only varchar(200)?	[19:14]
chealer	oh, bed-night story time, right :-)	[19:14]
ricks99	if u (and only u?) are having the same issue on multipel browsers, maybe some sort of os level caching?	[19:15]
chealer	I thought that wasn't your usual bed-time time :-)	[19:15]
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chealer	ricks99: I can always do it on the other PC, but I'm 99,99% sure my OS doesn't cache GETs	[19:16]
ricks99	just grasping at straws... i don't know what else.	[19:16]
chealer	ricks99: so, I was going to say, if I just left-click these 2 links, without being slow (say in less than 4 seconds), they both show the same content (the consultant I first clicked)	[19:17]
changi	ricks99: nice page	[19:18]
chealer	YossiN: uh... what are you trying to do?<	[19:18]
ricks99	i think i understand what you are saying. but i (nor luciash) could reproduce :(	[19:18]
YossiN	I need a larger than 255 chars filed for notes...	[19:18]
ricks99	lol (for changi) :-)	[19:18]
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ricks99	brb...	[19:19]
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YossiN	or, maybe there is a better addressbook than the default minitiki one?	[19:20]
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YossiN	any ideas?	[19:21]
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chealer	ricks99\|away: yeah... I just tried on another PC with the good old MSIE 6, reproduced at first attempt	[19:23]
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chealer	YossiN: there is no preference to do that, you would have to do it in the database (phpMyAdmin)	[19:28]
jonnyb	are we compatible with Apache License 2.0?	[19:30]
YossiN	thanks chealer, "no" is an answer too...	[19:31]
chealer	jonnyb: http://tiki.org/License says we can use Apache code	[19:32]
jonnyb	was just wondering if the version number matters i'm going to work on the assumption 2.0 is ok	[19:33]
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chealer	YossiN: I was not sure I had understood your question correctly. preferences to alter a software's database schema are rare, I never saw that. Tiki has none.	[19:34]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32554 10/third_party/jquery/ (17 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] mobile: Adding jquery.mobile (1.0 alpha 3)	[19:50]
ricks99	@chealer... i don't know what else to do or even to try. :-(	[19:51]
chealer	ricks99: thank for the tests, I guess we'll hear if other people are affected	[19:58]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32555 10/trunk/lib/: [SVN] mobile: Link in external for mobileESP	[20:00]
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sylvieg	ricks99: if you have access to the souce - I will put a trace in the plugin to be sure that the itemId that is considered is the good one	[20:20]
ricks99	source? you mean the generated html?	[20:21]
sylvieg	in lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php	[20:23]
ricks99	ah... no. i'm not sure who does have cpanel access	[20:24]
sylvieg	because can be the browser or servar cache - or it can be a bug in the plugin (in this case - need to verif the filter in list_items to see if the itemId is the one on the url)	[20:25]
chealer	ricks99: why are there 2 Tiki.org username fields in the tracker: http://info.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1075&trackerId=6&show=view&reloff=12&cant=17&status=o&trackerId=6&sort_mode=f_42_asc ?	[20:35]
ricks99	the autopopulate is to be used in the future, so that each person can "own" their tracker info for updating	[20:36]
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chealer	ricks99: can I rename the user selector to "Tiki.org username of the last editor of this item"?	[20:42]
radek82	Canadians: http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/ParlVu/asx/asxgen.asx?stream=A007-A-EN-AL thats the live stream of the Governments review of Usage Based Billing	[20:43]
ricks99	for now, sure, the auto-select userid is not currently used/shown anywhere	[20:43]
chealer	radek82: asx? ew, that sounds so Microsoftish	[20:44]
radek82	chealer: its the Government, be happy we don't have to dialin :)	[20:44]
chealer	ricks99: thanks, done	[20:45]
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chealer	I managed to update my consultant information	[20:48]
ricks99	cool	[20:50]
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luciash	how come the logo on the facebook widget is still the 3.x one ?	[20:52]
ricks99	looks correct to me http://tiki.org/networks	[20:55]
luciash	on info	[20:56]
ricks99	ricks99 didnt think there was a fb widget on info...	[20:56]
luciash	in the left "Join Tiki" module it appears from time to time	[20:56]
ricks99	ah.. its just an image -- not the real-time widget probably someone (me) forgot to update it	[20:57]
luciash	ah that explains it	[20:57]
ricks99	my fear was, if we put a live widget in there it could slow things down too much maybe not an issue? http://tiki.org/networks sometimes stalls for me. all the widgets are live	[20:58]
luciash	facebook widget is slowing down, yes	[20:59]
ricks99	k. then i'll leave "as is" will update the icon	[20:59]
luciash	k	[20:59]
ricks99	good catch luciash	[20:59]
luciash	weird, as anon i see no anti-bot code at http://info.tiki.org/Tiki+Service+Provider i see only image border with the alt text "Anti-Bot verification code image"	[21:00]
ricks99	refresh?	[21:01]
luciash	i did	[21:02]
robertplummer_	jonnyb, remember those issues we were having with undoable with sheet? I finally figured it out! woohoo!	[21:02]
luciash	still no image	[21:02]
ricks99	server issues maybe? i dont know	[21:02]
jonnyb	yay, robertplummer_ well done :)	[21:02]
luciash	clicking [Try another code] does nothing too ricks99: ^	[21:02]
ricks99	i see it right-click and select show image	[21:03]
luciash	must be some JS issue maybe http://info.tiki.org/temp/public/49f080b54f0863b29386ccad7c3996ef.captcha.png this is the issue 404	[21:03]
ricks99	well.. i would update the fb image if tiki could tell me where to find fileid 35	[21:05]
luciash	haha, i was struggling to find file by fileId recently too ;)	[21:06]
ricks99	major ui bug	[21:06]
luciash	then i found out that it was loaded from another Tiki server :-p	[21:06]
ricks99	someone else had reported a missing captcha on info, too. very random could not duplicate	[21:06]
luciash	is temp/public/ writable ?	[21:07]
ricks99	you're asking the wrong person	[21:07]
luciash	eh, now i reloaded again and the capcha image is sudenly there yep, confirmed, very random :-p	[21:08]
ricks99	ricks99 wonders if this is somehow related to chearler's issue i assume the directory is fine http://info.tiki.org/temp/public/90fd1cd10cdabdf8d706c5b2812afc2d.captcha.png works for me	[21:08]
luciash	yes, now it works even for many [Try another code] for me	[21:09]
ricks99	can we blame it on Apache (or Tiki)? ;-P	[21:09]
luciash	Apache some random Apache preferably (no racism intended) ;)	[21:09]
ricks99	quick tiki stat... the facebook "button" on info has a 0.24% click rate	[21:16]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32556 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] modules: jQuerify & fix broken icntoggle()	[21:16]
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luciash	ricks99: and compared with the others ?	[21:18]
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ricks99	roughly the same for all	[21:21]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: http://foo.com vs http://www.foo.com - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40399	[21:25]
luciash	ok, i rather understand it ricks99: ppl arrive on info for information about tiki and they don't want to go somewhere else immediately... and when they continue explore, they most likely end on community, doc or dev site and there is the module nomore so no wonder it doesn't receive too much attention or clicks hi xavi	[21:28]
ricks99	lol. i actually thought .2% was actually pretty good :-)	[21:31]
luciash	eh really ?	[21:31]
ricks99	considering it only shows on 10% of all page views and that it is low on the page	[21:32]
luciash	ok, i am not much into those stats so i have no clue what is good and what is bad ;)	[21:32]
ricks99	if it were a "real" ad, y, very low	[21:33]
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luciash	well, it is not that low it is second module from top or third if i don't count the quotes one but i see what u mean by 10% of page views, yup	[21:34]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: How to stop the Category Required notice in wiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40400	[21:35]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r32557 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Some cleanup of module info	[21:57]
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chealer	jonnyb: thanks for the HTML cleanup you did a while ago, that makes validation much less life poisoning	[22:01]
jonnyb	it's a good thing to do... thanks :)	[22:01]
chealer	only 8 errors now ^_^	[22:02]
jonnyb	go gettem chealer!	[22:02]
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chealer	jonnyb: yeah, I had the courage to consider it, but they're not really my domain. treetable and obsolete table attributes that apparently should be replaced with CSS	[22:09]
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chealer	Firebug is not being very helpful. "uncaught exception: Syntax error, unrecognized expression: ~" but no indication of where it comes from	[22:11]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r32558 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_include_module.tpl: modules are not just right & left anymore :-)	[22:22]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r32559 10/trunk/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.php: typo	[22:30]
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luciash	luciash just wasted some minutes playing with the logo to come up with "Tiki Valentine Edition" :-p i know we shouldn't do that ;) wanna share but dunno where	[22:57]
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jonnyb	info.t.o? :P	[23:06]
luciash	i'll put it in the galleries and let rick decide ;)	[23:14]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32560 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [FIX] In some (actually could be many) cases there is a need to have a paragraph tikiwiki: even if the content being parsed is only one line. In Tiki 5 that was the tikiwiki: behavior but someone changed it to not put a paragraph if the content is only tikiwiki: one line to solve some problems I can imagine. But this leads to inconsistencies tikiwiki: in other cases. For example, when parsing an article heading, if the heading has tikiwiki: one line it ends up being not in a para, but it is in a para if there are 2 tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32561 10/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [NEW] mobile: Implementation of prefs and libraries for jquery.mobile - doesn't do much yet tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32562 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/tikilib.php: (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [bp/r32560][FIX] In some (actually could be many) cases there is a need to have tikiwiki: a paragraph even if the content being parsed is only one line. In Tiki 5 that tikiwiki: was the behavior but someone changed it to not put a paragraph if the content is tikiwiki: only one line to solve some problems I can imagine. But this leads to tikiwiki: inconsistencies in other cases. For example, when parsing an article heading, if tikiwiki: the heading has one line it ends up being not in a para, but it is in a para if	[23:20]
	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32563 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_articles.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Specific case of r32560 issue: In some (actually could be many) cases tikiwiki: there is a need to have a paragraph even if the content being parsed is only one tikiwiki: line. In Tiki 5 that was the behavior but someone changed it to not put a tikiwiki: paragraph if the content is only one line to solve some problems, but this cause tikiwiki: inconsistency on other cases... tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32564 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_articles.php: tikiwiki: [bp/r32563][FIX] Requires r32562. Specific case of r32560 issue: In some tikiwiki: (actually could be many) cases there is a need to have a paragraph even if the tikiwiki: content being parsed is only one line. In Tiki 5 that was the behavior but tikiwiki: someone changed it to not put a paragraph if the content is only one line to tikiwiki: solve some problems, but this cause inconsistency on other cases...	[23:29]
luciash	ricks99: ^	[23:39]
ricks99	nice! but "be my valentine" is much more colloquial (at least for USA English). gonna do for all Tiki.org site colors?	[23:40]
luciash	ricks99: u could make a "Show your Tiki love" post on that day ;)	[23:41]
ricks99	you could make a .... :-)	[23:41]
luciash	heheh i know, but "be me" on one line was not enough ;) "be my" but maybe i can try with putting all on one liner no, only valentine color ;)	[23:42]
ricks99	two lines is fine. can get rid of the "!" too ricks99 for rick, valentine color is dark chocolate brown -- not red ;-)	[23:43]
luciash	haha	[23:44]
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luciash	ricks99: ^	[23:55]
ricks99	perfect but why did u upload as a new ID# instead of simply replacing the #99?	[23:55]
luciash	:) no idea feel free to delete	[23:56]
ricks99	i like it	[23:57]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32565 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_watershed.php: [FIX] When format of plugin in info function is set to html, no need to put ~np~ anymore, otherwise it shows to user.	[23:57]
ricks99	let's change the site logo to it. we can be just like google :)	[23:57]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r32566 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_watershed.php: [bp/r32565][FIX] When format of plugin in info function is set to html, no need to put ~np~ anymore, otherwise it shows to user.	[23:58]
luciash	ricks99: haha, on 14th ?	[23:59]
ricks99	yup	[23:59]
luciash	ricks99: we'd need red theme to match ;)	[23:59]

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