#tikiwiki 2011-02-16,Wed

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lphuberdeau	you can rollback changes you can use staging & approval to prevent changes from going live without approval you can use permissions to restrict who can edit	[00:42]
Siath	Yeah, just wondering if there was anything out there that would allow you to accept some changes and reject others when compairing. Thanks for answering :)	[00:44]
lphuberdeau	tiki7 also has flagged revisions that allow manual approval of revisions	[00:44]
Siath	Thanks.	[00:48]
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fabricius	polom	[01:20]
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fabricius	luciash: the site is ready now - just switched domain an hour ago => http://papatour.eu (we will stay fixed, as you recommended ;-) )	[01:22]
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Trebly	<everybody> Do it exist a project about viewing the content of a structure using the TOC as menu to display content of wiki pages with ajax ?	[02:01]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Profile using Data Channel - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40452	[02:54]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r32851 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Improve contrast for event text in calendar week view for the darkroom theme	[04:12]
	tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r32852 10/branches/proposals/6.x/styles/darkroom.css: [bp/r32851][FIX] Improve contrast for event text in calendar week view for the darkroom theme	[04:18]
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Kayin_	Can anyone assist me with a layout situation involving Tiki?	[05:45]
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chibaguy	polom	[06:04]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3796 - - Wiki Cache makes part of the page wonky: it's ok when refreshed. - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3796	[06:23]
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chealer	is community on proposals/6.x or "accepted"?	[06:55]
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coaboa	goood morning tikiverse	[08:25]
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coaboa	off: RE moloq: walking through the years of technical improovements: bought several copies of "Thin Lizzy : Life" (Tape, LP, CD), the books from J.R.R. Tolkien, all of the DVD's and now should I by the BluRay Edition again? Rafactoring vs. Supply Chain ;-) buy "User Experience" should be a feature itself. just some thougth after usin a brand new 27" i7 iMac for several days: why the hell thes cut off a reliable package managend ;-) g thes/they	[09:51]
chibaguy	coaboa: maybe music publishers could fight piracy, etc. by selling music with a subscription plan that assures the buyer a new copy whenever the media format changes. So if you buy a BluRay of Thin Lizzy : Life, you would get the next-gen at no charge (and next-next-gen, etc.....)	[10:02]
coaboa	Would be great ;-) but I meant: transforming that to tiki means: Its worth nothing to try to sell Tapes vs. Bluray. -> Tiki should make clear cuts and drop whats after....	[10:06]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: How to make everyone can use sandbox - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40454	[10:06]
coaboa	LTS would be a good "cut marker"	[10:07]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Images resizing in the File Gallery - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40457	[10:59]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32853 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.tabset.php: [ENH] mobile: tabs as a button controlgroup	[11:43]
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	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r32856 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: unique identifier for each wikiplugin r call	[12:19]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[12:48]
jonnyb	hi ricks99	[12:48]
ricks99	hiya jonnyb	[12:50]
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rodrigo_sampaio	jonnyb, lphuberdeau: I manage to fix the problem I was having with the tests yesterday. I was running for a few weeks phpunit 3.5, something have changed in this version, because now running phpunit 3.4 everything seems to work	[13:19]
jonnyb	ok, good to know, thanks rodrigo_sampaio	[13:19]
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lphuberdeau	ah, we'll probably have to fix tests to work under 3.5 someday	[13:25]
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ricks99	anyone ever use http://code.google.com/p/curved-corner/ to get border-radius elements in IE?	[13:34]
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RavenC	polom	[13:34]
lphuberdeau	used some jquery plugin once, mostly annoying you get some flickering effect	[13:35]
ricks99	y, have tried that not pretty	[13:35]
lphuberdeau	IE9 supports border-radius	[13:36]
jonnyb	won't IE 9 do them properly?	[13:36]
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ricks99	y, but i need ie 7&6 support	[13:37]
lphuberdeau	6 support? that's rude	[13:38]
RavenC	RavenC just shuttered seeing the mention of ie6	[13:38]
ricks99	represents 11% of traffic	[13:39]
lphuberdeau	2% down and it can be officially considered marginal? I'm all for making IE6 user's experience miserable so they switch	[13:39]
ricks99	client does not want to alienate 11% of all visitors. thats a big chunk	[13:41]
RavenC	time to retire the NT servers ..... ;)	[13:43]
ricks99	ricks99 still has a win95 pc at home... still chugging along just fine	[13:43]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32857 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-payment_outstanding.php: [FIX] Removing executable property	[13:44]
RavenC	hehehe... here at work, we still have 4 win2k comm servers in use... I think they all have ie6. Of course, they don't have net access so..... RavenC Gettings Ricks a copy of windows 7 for xmas ;)	[13:44]
ricks99	of course, i drive a 19 year old car with 275K miles, so there's no telling...	[13:45]
lphuberdeau	win7 on a machine that dates 1995, that's going to be pretty 275K miles? I was impressed recently when I saw one at 300K km	[13:45]
RavenC	I have windows 7 running on a Pentium II. It smokes compared to win2K that was on it previously	[13:46]
lphuberdeau	but again, winter is a bit harder on cars	[13:46]
RavenC	275k ? wow	[13:46]
ricks99	as long as it works...	[13:47]
lphuberdeau	... and you don't have to drive too far from home	[13:47]
ricks99	... and have a cell phone... just in case	[13:48]
RavenC	my 3 year lease is up in May, got it with the minimum 12k per year... the thing only has 7500 miles on it oh, fwiw, I went live with my TW6.1 Intranet (finally). Major success!! Thanks to all of you of course!	[13:48]
ricks99	congrats	[13:56]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32858 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [MOD] plugin edit: Expose help link (thanks marclaporte)	[14:04]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r32859 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Another try at a fixed-width method that uses one fixed-width container div for most themes but allows exceptions for themes like Fivealive. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32860 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.escape.php: [MOD] smarty escape: Add unescape (rawurldecode) option tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32861 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] modules admin: Make assigned modules rows double clickable, unescape params and add, as yet unused, doc link	[14:07]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32862 10/trunk/modules/ (13 files): [MOD] modules: Add documentation attribute to module with some (documentation)	[14:20]
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SDuensin	Morning.	[14:26]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r32863 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]Get the latest version of the attachment in in a field of the same itemId, and not the first, so that replacing defective files with good ones solve issues. Thanks sylvieg	[14:40]
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jamsu	Hi, I can't access the "Editing & Plugins" page in the admin interface. access.log says error 500, which doesn't help me at all. Happens with no other admin page. Any idea what might cause this? It's an almost untouched new install. Especially weird: Firefox displays one bullet point (HTML sourcecode: 4 lines of whitespace with one <li> tag, that's it).	[14:49]
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RavenC	can you access it directly from the address bar with tiki-admin.php?page=textarea	[14:52]
ricks99	error 500 indicates server misconfig. check your mod_security rules and confirm that all tiki-admin.php are allowed	[14:57]
jamsu	RavenC: That's the only way I'm trying to access it. Is there another way, another URL, to get to the Editing & Plugins tab? ricks99: Yeah, read about that, too. But isn't it weird that this only happens for on specific GET-parameter and not for all admin modules? By the way, I'm not sure if I have access to mod_security, it's a new server with only PLESK, no direct shell access (as I had before). Have to get familiar with PLESK	[15:06]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r32864 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-categories.php: [NEW]categories: ass a param to have the categ linking to a page with its name tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32865 10/trunk/templates/tiki-listpages_content.tpl: [FIX] listpages: Fix odd/even cycle tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32866 10/trunk/ (lib/prefs/mobile.php styles/mobile.css): [ENH] mobile: Styling for tables and a couple of typo fixes	[15:07]
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ricks99	woo hoo. rounded corners on ie via tiki htc file only :-)	[15:31]
SDuensin	Very cool. Been using nifty corners myself.	[15:32]
sylvieg	ricks99: is the jquery to round boxes in IE is in now? or is there another solution?	[15:43]
ricks99	no jquery. a simple htc handler for ie handles ie 6+ and no effect to other browsers just need to add mime handler for htc file and add 1 line to css classes	[15:43]
sylvieg	is it in tiki?	[15:45]
ricks99	not by default but maybe we should. tiki can include gpl, yes?	[15:46]
luciash	not at all	[15:48]
ricks99	:(	[15:48]
sylvieg	I was ready to add something like http://plugins.jquery.com/project/corners - but if you have better...	[15:48]
ricks99	currently playing with: http://css3pie.com	[15:48]
luciash	only lgpl, bsd, mit and public domain or such	[15:48]
ricks99	it is dual licenesed, also apache 2.0 license maybe as a mod then	[15:49]
luciash	apache isn't compatible either	[15:49]
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luciash	they are too restrictive licenses	[15:49]
jonnyb	i thought apache was ok (sure i added something apache recently)	[15:50]
luciash	jonnyb: really ? hmm, maybe i mixed it up with something then...	[15:51]
ricks99	maybe just add it as a "how do i" on themes then, just not bundle with tiki	[15:51]
jonnyb	according to http://tiki.org/License	[15:51]
luciash	maybe AGPL	[15:51]
jonnyb	yes, AGPL is no good for us (kaltura is AGPL and we had to get the include files relicensed, it was dull...)	[15:52]
luciash	but as we're dropping IE6 support for Tiki7 i think it wouldn't make sense to include it in trunk	[15:52]
ricks99	but apache 2.0 is ok? works well on ie7, too	[15:52]
jonnyb	i think so - that page doesn't mention a version	[15:52]
luciash	ah i also thought about removing the iepngfix from trunk as IE7 does it natively (alpha transparency on PNGs)	[15:53]
ricks99	cool thing is, it doesn't require any changes to tiki. just 1 line in htaccess and a few files to include. so easy, even rick did it	[15:53]
luciash	hopefully it will be still valid code	[15:54]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32867 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] mobile: Temporary pref to allow access to latest "Live Code" version of jqm (extra experimental but already found a couple of fixes) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32868 10/trunk/lib/ (setup/mobile.php smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php): [FIX] mobile: Switch off toolbars and auto_save for mobile for now	[16:27]
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TriPeds	hello anyone?	[16:37]
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TriPeds	hello?	[16:55]
codyg	hi	[16:55]
TriPeds	do you know if you can post video using tikiWiki? upload it i mean	[16:55]
codyg	what kind of video?	[16:56]
TriPeds	instructional video its for a medical type wiki	[16:57]
codyg	what format?	[16:57]
TriPeds	.mov or .avi flash even	[16:58]
codyg	i don't know even know what i don't know about tiki, but will try to upload a video. No reason why it shouldn't work. brb	[16:58]
TriPeds	ok ty	[16:58]
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codyg	hmm, i'm getting a plugin execution pending approval thing, but if is sort out the permissions it should work.	[17:06]
luciash	codyg: if u r admin u should be able to approve	[17:08]
codyg	just found it ;)	[17:09]
luciash	codyg: otherwise your group needs tiki_p_approve... something like that ok	[17:09]
codyg	and there is that other thing I lost last week	[17:09]
TriPeds	ok	[17:10]
codyg	hmm... windows wants me to do a firefox plugin in my chrome browser.... lol silly machines	[17:10]
TriPeds	lol	[17:11]
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codyg	did i say it was a .mwv file? it's working on it will likely have to restart browser.. ;( let me fire up ie and see what i get	[17:11]
	it works can wiki page name change?	[17:18]
luciash	yes	[17:32]
codyg	good news through phpmyadmin? cause i can't find it in the ui	[17:33]
luciash	Rename button under every page	[17:35]
codyg	<<<< smaking herself... ouch that one jumped up and bit me luciash this am i read why tiki themes don't wow ... will html5 and css3 improve that situation? it should make rendering a "header" way more sane know i know i can work crud in tiki i'm wondering how i can make it look good looks aren't everything of course but getting the grid right is all good. have you heard of 50 column grids? anything is possible lol	[17:37]
luciash	sure :) sorry that i am not talkative much... must focus on setting up some server config now	[17:43]
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codyg	np luciash, some other time	[17:46]
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ricks99	@codyg: i agree, tiki needs more theme designers, with a creative eye	[18:00]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32869 10/trunk/ (8 files in 8 dirs): [NEW] Initial integration with OpenLayers. Used for the user to change location from user preferences, new module adding markers for all geolocated objects rendered in the page (users only for now).	[18:20]
luciash	marclaporte1: any experience setting up bbb server behind firewal ? i use firehol	[18:22]
lphuberdeau	luciash, you might want to ask that one in the bbb channel	[18:26]
luciash	lphuberdeau: i did already, but there's just few people... idling	[18:30]
lphuberdeau	they also have a users mailing list I believe	[18:31]
luciash	yep	[18:37]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32871 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-locator.php: [ENH] Shorter title	[19:19]
	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32872 10/trunk/ (lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tiki-user_preferences.php): [MOD] Use same format as used in trackers	[19:28]
	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r32873 10/trunk/templates/ (tracker_item_field_input.tpl tracker_item_field_value.tpl): [MOD] Using openlayers for tracker maps, leaving gmap when gmap is enabled and configured	[19:41]
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jonnyb	offnowbbl	[20:17]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r32874 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] mobile: Fixes to links where page need to be loaded without ajax (for now) tikiwiki: Allow the rel attribute in self_link and a couple of other small fixes	[20:18]
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chealer	polom	[20:19]
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luciash	hi chealer anybody using firehol here ?	[20:53]
chealer	hi luciash congratulations for your promotion :-P not me	[20:54]
luciash	thanks, which promotion ? qt ?	[20:54]
chealer	luciash: yes :-)	[20:54]
luciash	when i specify nat destination for specific port, does it matter that on the firewall runs apache on default port ?	[20:56]
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luciash	i need to redirect foo:81 to machine behind firewol, where apache runs on 81 firewall, sorry :) luciash setting up BBB ;)	[20:57]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: New user to Tikiwiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40465	[21:05]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32875 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_banning.tpl: [FIX] Admin Banning: broken rule dates (broken pass of time to html_select_date)	[21:56]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r32876 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_banning.tpl: [bp/r32875][FIX] Admin Banning: broken rule dates (broken pass of time to html_select_date)	[21:58]
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boriscougar	do you know what is the cause for the alertbox (on profiles, admin-mode) that says "Error loading page" and after few attempts i can't access the site until i get a new ip address? !help	[22:50]
honeygirl	help [<plugin>] [<command>]	[22:51]
boriscougar	>help!	[22:51]
Sug4r	'help' could be way of getting some useful (or not so useful but kind of funny) information from me. By me I mean Sug4r, the IRC bot. You can give me commands like >whatis foo to get some facts from my factoids database about foo , >list alias to get list of command aliases i understand, >help alias about to get some help about alias called about and its parameters or /msg Sug4r help (1 more message)	[22:51]
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luciash	boriscougar: no idea, r u behind firewall ?	[23:06]
boriscougar	well i guess no, at least not locally at my home, and on the server i'm not sure	[23:07]
luciash	boriscougar: ok, i only know when i was running Tiki once on my router, it failed to load profiles, but maybe it was another case boriscougar: it must be something else for u	[23:09]
...... (idle for 29mn)
coaboa	gn	[23:38]
***	coaboa is now known as coaboa\|\|away boriscougar_ has joined #tikiwiki boriscougar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)	[23:38]
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