#tikiwiki 2011-03-09,Wed

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Jdogg	q WHO #WHO WHO * Has anyone successfully setup status change automatically with trackers? I am not able to get this to wok?	[00:09]
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honeygirl	help [<plugin>] [<command>]	[00:25]
Tiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot .	[00:25]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3811 - - Link in Task messages sent are broken - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3811	[01:21]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3812 - - order and filter Tasks by user (that the task was send to) - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3812	[01:31]
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chibaguy	fabricius: "Logout" should actually be two words (only computer geeks make it one word, I think), so "log out" should be in dictionaries.	[02:05]
chealer	fabricius: Déconnexion or Se déconnecter	[02:10]
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chealer	Does anyone have Edit templates working? the admin screen for Smarty templates I get a memory exhausted error on either trunk or 5.x actually does anyone have it working on PHP 5.3.3 - 5.3.5?	[03:30]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r33289 10/trunk/ (51 files in 51 dirs): [FIX] "Log out" should be two words.	[03:58]
chibaguy	Commit message should be "'Logout' should be two words."	[04:03]
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chibaguy	chibaguy wondering how the BBB discussion went, was only logged in early before anything started.	[05:43]
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	chibaguy is looking forward to BBB being able to record and play back conferences. :-)	[06:11]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Custom Home - Using the template & changing the page title - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40685	[09:04]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Strange problem with wiki links - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40688	[10:26]
luciash	polom hi chibaguy	[10:28]
chibaguy	hi luciash	[10:29]
luciash	for some reason the tikifest ppl decided to make it on http://tiki.bigbluebutton.org	[10:29]
chibaguy	Was BBB working ok later on? ah, switched servers?	[10:29]
luciash	it went pretty fine there except the new freeswitch feature sound detection level is set too high, so listeners were unable to hear what the audience asks (because it auto-switched the mic off)	[10:30]
chibaguy	oh	[10:31]
luciash	fred presented something about the recording feature in deevelopment	[10:34]
chibaguy	oh, that's good. I think it's pretty important for people to see/hear sessions later on.	[10:35]
luciash	yep, now you can only workaround using some screencast recording software	[10:36]
	bbl, lunch time	[10:43]
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	re	[10:59]
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chibaguy	I wish the plugin alias docs were more complete. I made a plugin alias, but I want to add an argument, to filter the tracker items. so far, no luck.	[11:15]
luciash	chibaguy: there was some example, which is used on dev.t.o	[11:15]
chibaguy	ok, I'll check.	[11:16]
luciash	OT: do you think this is a good option ? (free SSL certificate): https://www.startssl.com/?app=1	[11:17]
chibaguy	I really don't know anything about SSL certificates, unfortunately. chibaguy finds that awareness of new unknowns increases faster than acquisition of knowledge, resulting in steep, steady decline in personal knowledge to total information ratio. ;-)	[11:21]
luciash	heheh, same here :-p it's a too fast world nowadays	[11:24]
chibaguy	yeah, the only comfort is that it's true for everybody, unless they aren't absorbing any new information.	[11:25]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Some beginner questions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40690	[11:26]
chibaguy	Do you want to offer https on a site? The plugin alias admin page seems quite flakey to me. "Change preferences" doesn't save new data; only carriage return key does. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.	[11:27]
luciash	yep	[11:32]
chibaguy	Not to mention having things like 3 "Parameters" forms and not knowing which is for what, etc.	[11:32]
luciash	reverse engineering ;)	[11:33]
chibaguy	Hm, well, I still can't get my plugin to filter results; all items in the tracker are shown. Still trying to figure it out.	[11:34]
	Seems like you should be able to have something like "color=blue" as a plugin argument, and then all tracker items that have color blue would be displayed. ...assuming you have a tracker field "color" with a possible value "blue", and I assume you would enter it as a parameter on the plugin alias admin page.	[11:39]
luciash	chibaguy: if u can point me somewhere, i can have a look	[11:40]
chibaguy	mm, still on my localhost so far.	[11:40]
luciash	chibaguy: shouldn't it be filterfield="XX" exactvalue="blue" ? XX = number	[11:41]
chibaguy	oh, ok. I'll try that.	[11:43]
	hm, I can't add a new plugin argument. I see at dev.t.o, filterfield is an argument in "Simple Plugin Arguments" but when I enter that in "New Argument" and hit return, the page refreshes with just the previous existing arguments only.	[11:49]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r33290 10/trunk/lang/en-uk/language.php: [ENH] British English now almost 100% translated (to get better stats result, you know ;))	[11:51]
luciash	do u use ajax ?	[11:51]
chibaguy	yep, it's on. but I turned it off, to check.	[11:52]
luciash	and no difference ? is it trunk or 6 btw ?	[11:57]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Some beginner questions - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40690 New Forum Posts: Strange problem with wiki links - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40688 New Forum Posts: Custom Home - Using the template & changing the page title - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40685	[11:57]
chibaguy	Ok, new arguments are being saved now. 6	[11:58]
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luciash	ok, cool	[12:02]
chibaguy	...but the argument in the wiki plugin isn't having an effect yet.	[12:06]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Some beginner questions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40690 New Forum Posts: Strange problem with wiki links - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40688 New Forum Posts: Custom Home - Using the template & changing the page title - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40685	[12:07]
chibaguy	btw, I thought "Use different URL as homepage:" could be used to specify a wiki page (not homepage) as the site index. It doesn't seem to work. (was telling forum poster above that it could be done)	[12:09]
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luciash	chibaguy: u can use any valid URL in there so you can use HomePage too (if you have .htaccess SEFURL enabled) or tiki-index.php?page=HomePage	[12:14]
chibaguy	I'm trying at zukakakina.com, and it always goes to HomePage, even if I set the URL to another wiki page.	[12:15]
luciash	but if it is not necessary if you set the wiki homepage on Admin > Wiki panel	[12:16]
chibaguy	The user wants to set the site index to another wiki page, not HomePage.	[12:16]
luciash	he/she should set it on the Wiki admin panel then	[12:16]
chibaguy	The docs say it should work (and it used to) but in 6.2 I'm having some trouble. (not working)	[12:17]
luciash	ah	[12:17]
chibaguy	I used the full url, cleared cache, logged out, etc. On the bright side, some images are showing up in file gallery that weren't displaying for a couple of Tiki updates. ;-)	[12:17]
luciash	:D	[12:18]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r33291 10/trunk/lang/en-uk/language.php: [FIX] British English: wrench => spanner	[12:21]
chibaguy	heh, it's interesting to see a czech doing the british english language file. ;-) good job	[12:24]
ricks99	"spanner"??	[12:24]
chibaguy	yep	[12:24]
luciash	:)	[12:25]
chibaguy	chibaguy is reminded of john lennon's book "a spaniard in the works"	[12:25]
luciash	we learned mainly british english in the school i learned american english mostly on the internet	[12:25]
ricks99	ricks99 is going to start a Southern American tiki translation... ricks99 ... "click down yawnder to continue"...	[12:26]
chibaguy	http://www.eyeofhawaii.com/Pidgin/pidgin.htm Hawaiian pidgin would be good for some "local guys" site. but would need to be done authentically or would come across really lame. of course Hawaiian itself would be neat. http://www.olelo.hawaii.edu/ Is "wrench" in the language files (was this ricks99's question)? "Click on the spanner icon"?	[12:27]
ricks99	is "spanner" really "wrench" in UK?	[12:34]
luciash	ricks99: yes	[12:34]
ricks99	ricks99 needs to get out more...	[12:34]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r33292 10/trunk/lang/en-uk/language.php: [FIX] British English: -ize => -ise	[12:34]
luciash	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrench	[12:35]
chibaguy	I'm guessing because its jaws span across the nut or bolt head, but really don't know.	[12:35]
ricks99	interesting	[12:36]
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luciash	http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/wrench?view=uk although i believe lot of ppl already know the US wrench term	[12:37]
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luciash	http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/spanner?view=uk kinda funny :) "chiefly British"	[12:38]
chibaguy	heh, totally British, I would say. anyway, no americans say "spanner" unless they're "acting British".	[12:40]
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luciash	heheh :D should we translate "cookies" to "biscuits" ? ;)	[12:43]
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chibaguy	heh, yeah, do it, do it. ;-) (not really)	[12:44]
luciash	LOL	[12:45]
chibaguy	but if you could put a lang/en-uk/custom.php on, say, jonnyb's dev site, that'd be pretty funny.	[12:48]
luciash	i wonder if britons say "Spreadsheets" for example hahah	[12:48]
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luciash	seems that yes these oxford dictionaries seem useful ;)	[12:50]
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chibaguy	eating now. bbl.	[13:03]
luciash	bibi	[13:04]
	bbl too	[13:18]
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sylvieg	:-( in tiki6   aer interpreted in preview but not in view for a non html page - preview is bugged :-( in fact ..   is saved in teh database into &nbsp;	[13:51]
	hmm .. preview does not use htmpurifier but save uses it?	[14:02]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Problems displaying any calendar in TikiWiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=40702	[14:28]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Article as home page - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40704	[14:38]
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dcedilotte	Polom!	[15:04]
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dcedilotte	ls * wrong window. Sorry.	[15:08]
luciash	:)	[15:09]
Yonixxx	this is biscuit window ! ;)	[15:19]
luciash	biscuit window ?	[15:20]
ricks99	ricks99 suddently hungry	[15:20]
luciash	ricks99: is suddently british ? :)	[15:21]
ricks99	ahem SOUTHERN british, y'all	[15:21]
luciash	luciash just got some cookies and a coffee	[15:22]
ricks99	ricks99 thinkig of another bowl of cap'n crunch.	[15:22]
luciash	luciash likez cookies not crunchies ? ;)	[15:22]
ricks99	lol	[15:22]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Forum order - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40710	[15:30]
dcedilotte	Is it possible to update a Tiki install, that was done using a downloaded file, to version 6.2 using svn?	[15:33]
ricks99	y. simply replace the existing files with the SVN files, then run the installer to update your db	[15:34]
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Yonixxx	Sorry for the cookies i have cooked "creme brulee" yesterday… i'm on my way to the fridge	[15:37]
dcedilotte	ricks99: thanks.	[15:37]
ricks99	be sure to back up first. SVN is bleeding edge	[15:38]
luciash	ricks99: branch6 a bleeding edge ? nope :)	[15:40]
ricks99	true. i meant svn trunk	[15:41]
Yonixxx	arf, i know there is an admin option to show or hide "My Tiki" menu… can't find it… :( Anyone ?	[15:51]
luciash	Yonixxx: use the search, luke :) Yonixxx: maybe on General admin panel on the Navigation tab ?	[15:52]
ricks99	i think its on the community or user tab	[15:53]
luciash	Yonixxx: or under Community admin panel	[15:53]
Yonixxx	i tried to search i swear ! :)	[15:53]
luciash	ah, ricks99 beat me now ;)	[15:53]
ricks99	:)	[15:54]
Yonixxx	OMG… find it this time… first item in Community panel, shame on me (but it's not over...)	[15:54]
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chealer	polom	[15:55]
Yonixxx	Hi Chealer … The last time i built a Phonebook i use a tracker. I discover the option: Users Contacts… But the TW documentation is rather empty. Is this option best to build a phonebook based on registered users ?	[15:59]
luciash	Yonixxx: you got keyboard with […] key ? or how do you write it ?	[16:02]
ricks99	alt+0133	[16:03]
luciash	ricks99: are you serious Yoni presses that combination of keys every time ? ;)	[16:04]
Yonixxx	Lu : lol… i tap three time … :D	[16:04]
ricks99	can u say "macro"	[16:04]
luciash	Yonixxx: ah, nice, your IRC client converts it then ricks99: macro :)	[16:04]
ricks99	sigh	[16:06]
chealer	hi Yonixxx. I don't know about Users Contacts	[16:16]
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Yonixxx	Ok i know contact now… it is quite obvious when you activate the right menu. :) i want to set a tracker where registered user can sell/buy/give <——— i can't find a proper expression to name it. add board ??? (look ugly)	[16:41]
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luciash	add board ?	[17:05]
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Yonixxx	… <—— like a craiglist ;)	[17:14]
luciash	sorry, i don't get it :)	[17:19]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r33293 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [MOD] adding a warning following some reported issues. This really should be better checked via the code, but until it is... tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r33294 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-admin_include_features.tpl tiki-admin_include_look.tpl): [MOD] Moving breadcrumb options to experimental admin panel	[17:26]
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Yonixxx	Lu: it seams i'm talking about "Ads Board" or " Classified"	[17:36]
luciash	i don't understand how sell/buy/give goes with "Ads Board" or "Classified" grmbl, change_category module shows regression after latest svn up of proposals branch: id=52 limited to view the category and its children properly few weeks ago... now the module param is ignored and shows all the categories from the top :( it's the "Category identifier" param sylvieg: can you know something about what might change it ?	[17:40]
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luciash	sylvieg: perhaps 33163 ?	[17:48]
	sylvieg: hmm, nope, it must have happened earlier	[17:53]
	the problem is in categlib	[18:05]
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luciash	sylvieg: svn up -r33178 lib/categories/categlib.php works fine sylvieg: r33179 makes the change_category module disappear sylvieg: and your later fixes bring it back but doesn't filter by the specified category ID anymore sylvieg: my module parameters are: id=52 title=Choose+Status sylvieg: under category 52 i have 3 subcategories sylvieg: that's all	[18:10]
sylvieg	perhaps me - I check - btw the consultants page on tiki.org does not work	[18:22]
luciash	sylvieg: ok sylvieg: i don't know why the removal of the ksort affects it	[18:28]
sylvieg	if I have categs like 'À table' et xxxx with the ksort xxx is first - without it is last	[18:35]
luciash	sylvieg: please note that i have many other categories which shouldn't display in the module when i specify id=52	[18:35]
chealer	sylvieg: I also get that if I'm anonymous, but works if I'm registered	[18:35]
luciash	chealer means the consultants page, right ?	[18:36]
sylvieg	chealer: yes idem for me	[18:36]
luciash	sylvieg: i see, but why when i do svn up -r33179 lib/categories/categlib.php (and clean tiki cache to be sure) the module doesn't display anymore at all ? (for me when specifying category id) 33178 works fine displays module and limits to category 52 btw, i have the categories named with english names (not czech with accents) sylvieg: shouldn't the sorting be done by how the categories are structured in categories listing anyway ? sylvieg: and not alphabetically ?	[18:37]
sylvieg	what is exactly your confid mudele categories or module change categories? {MODULE(module=categories) /} working for me	[18:42]
luciash	module change assigned in right column change_category module	[18:47]
chealer	luciash: yes	[18:50]
sylvieg	{MODULE(module=change_category, id=1) /} is working for me and limiting the categ	[18:52]
luciash	sylvieg: can you try in right column and perhaps with id=3 ? sylvieg: {MODULE(module=change_category, id=52) /} doesn't show up for me on wiki page either (with r33179 lib/categories/categlib.php)	[18:53]
sylvieg	btw has somebody the highlighter working on plugins - never worked for me	[18:59]
luciash	what highlighter ?	[18:59]
sylvieg	whane editing a page syntax highlight	[19:00]
luciash	ah, in trunk you mean, no idea	[19:00]
sylvieg	ok luciash I can reproduce - works with id=1 but not with id=10 :-(	[19:00]
luciash	sylvieg: yep :-(	[19:01]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33295 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.title.php: [FIX] notice, and move assignment from condition test	[19:01]
sylvieg	but when I put back ksort the id still does not work	[19:04]
luciash	remember clear tiki cache maybe yep, clearing tiki cache is a must so tu sum it up: 1) svn up -r33178 lib/categories/categlib.php works fine 2) svn up -r33179 lib/categories/categlib.php + clear tiki cache = the module doesn't even show up	[19:04]
sylvieg	I do not have the same conclusion - with or without the ksort, it does not work	[19:09]
luciash	3) svn up -r33295 lib/categories/categlib.php + clear cache = the module shows up again but doesn't limit to the category id sylvieg: i talk about proposals branches btw (33295 is the last rev on proposals)	[19:09]
sylvieg	sylvieg thinking about a no cache debug setting	[19:11]
luciash	+1 (note: all the other files than lib/categories/categlib.php i have svn upped to the latest 33295, just to let u know and make sure it is no other file causing it) sylvieg: if you still cannot make it work... is your category id 10 with global perms ? sylvieg: or was it the cache ?	[19:12]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33296 10/trunk/lib/ajax/autosave.js: [FIX] codemirror: Fix auto_saved content switching	[19:19]
sylvieg	bbl	[19:21]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33297 10/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): [KIL] modules revamp: removing leftover top and "bot" bar prefs	[19:56]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33298 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_include_look.tpl: [MOD] admin look: Reorganise prefs to make more sense, all custom codes together, only theme options in theme tab etc (possibly more to do) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33299 10/trunk/css/admin.css: [MOD] admin look: Better alignment of labels and inputs	[20:21]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33302 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] module prefs: add missing new zones and also make labels align	[20:42]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33303 10/trunk/ (12 files in 7 dirs): [MOD] themegenerator: Rename pref from feature_themegenerator to themegenerator_feature in the new way so that all the relevant prefs are defined in one file (themegenerator.php, not feature.php)	[21:09]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33304 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [QT] rollback 33179 ... need the sort whenn using path	[23:13]
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