#tikiwiki 2011-03-10,Thu

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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Tracker item fields dependancy - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40716 New Forum Posts: User tracker field -> link to the user email or TW internal message system. - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40715 New Forum Posts: blank screens with tiki 6.2 - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=40712	[00:47]
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chealer	hi qwebirc41348 hi qwebirc41348 hi qwebirc41348	[03:09]
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chealer	hi qwebirc41348	[03:09]
qwebirc55399	hi chealer	[03:09]
chealer	sorry just testing	[03:09]
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jonnyb	polom qwebirc55399	[03:10]
qwebirc55399	chealer: what kind of name is that? jonnyb: there is a typo in your nmae	[03:11]
jonnyb	typo?	[03:14]
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chibaguy	polom In branch 6x, IE6 is getting a rule from css/calendar-print.css on all pages: #middle {padding: 0px !important}. I don't know where the logic is to load that CSS file, but somehow IE6 gets it all the time.	[09:20]
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luciash	hi chibaguy	[09:40]
chibaguy	hi luciash	[09:45]
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luciash	imho those css files should be loaded only on demand when printing as we don't have such clever implementation to use @print (which wouldn't work in IE6 anyway i think)	[10:07]
chibaguy	ah, now I see calendar-print.css is being loaded by FF too. along with calendar.css	[10:16]
luciash	yup	[10:17]
chibaguy	maybe it's usually harmless, but calendar-print.css has #middle {padding: 0 !important} so it could overpower other css rules.	[10:19]
luciash	that's for sure	[10:20]
chibaguy	but you are right that these should be loaded only when actually needed. I noticed, btw, that _minified_ js is 500kb. not minified is 1MB incredible mainly, jquery-ui is a beast.	[10:21]
	in trunk, minified js comes to 590.5 KB.	[10:34]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Standard Table not displayed in R6.2 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40720	[10:42]
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luciash	chibaguy: that's terribly lot	[11:27]
chibaguy	yeah, even nowdays with fast connections, that seems like a lot of overhead. 6-8 times more js than other CMS type sites I checked.	[11:32]
luciash	what about minified CSS ? how much is that ?	[11:34]
chibaguy	In branch 6, I see two minified CSS files: one is 104.9KB and one is 105.1KB. I don't know why two. In trunk, one file, about 105KB. Hmm, minified CSS from themes.t.o is only 19.2 KB Is my localhost not minimizing well? Does that vary from one server to another? JS from themes.t.o is also smaller, at 187KB. JS from info.t.o: 188KB, JS from doc.t.o: 255KB, JS from t.o: 242KB, JS from dev.t.o: 249KB. minified CSS from each *.t.o site: about 20KB. Except there are two files being served from info.t.o, each 20.6KB. So my huge localhost figures aren't typical, fortunately.	[11:37]
luciash	hmm, does it include the Custom CSS from L&F perhaps ?	[11:48]
chibaguy	No, both files seem to be minified from the same starting data. I see the body selector and rules in both, for exampe. example. but the order of selectors is different.	[11:50]
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sylvieg	I have a problem I am supposed to pick up rodrigo at the aiport at to go to the tikihouse - but I can not find is flight US1800 What is US US airways?	[12:17]
ricks99	probabaly	[12:18]
luciash	http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1800	[12:19]
ricks99	awe?	[12:19]
luciash	r u sure about the flight ID ?	[12:19]
sylvieg	awe or US?	[12:19]
luciash	http://info.flightmapper.net/flight?q=US_Airways_US_1800	[12:20]
sylvieg	but charlotte et not boston	[12:20]
luciash	says Boston, should be it ?	[12:20]
sylvieg	http://tiki.org/TikiFestBoston7	[12:20]
ricks99	gets into boston 5:26	[12:20]
sylvieg	rodrigo arrives at 11:56	[12:21]
luciash	sylvieg: yep, sorry, the first one was wrong	[12:21]
ricks99	sylvieg: i just got daniels email... will you be able to pick me up on Monday?	[12:21]
luciash	ah, hmm	[12:21]
sylvieg	:-( school time ... I should have check yesterday I can but first I need to solve rodrigo flight and he has no cell phone...	[12:21]
ricks99	i'll email you details. k? looks like rodrigo flight is currently on timne: http://flights.usairways.com/FlightStatus.aspx?fs_by=FlightNumber&fs_num=1800-PBI,1800-CLT&fs_date=2011-03-10	[12:22]
luciash	sylvieg: i think it goes through Charlotte	[12:24]
ricks99	yes. west palm beach -> charlotte -> boston	[12:25]
luciash	at least the returning flight suggests so: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1489 ricks99: right :)	[12:25]
ricks99	had i known, i could have driven to charlotte to say hi :-)	[12:25]
luciash	sylvieg: so this seems to be correct → http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1800 sylvieg: he's not yet in Charlotte	[12:27]
ricks99	yes. he arrives boston gate B8 at 11:56am http://flights.usairways.com/FlightStatus.aspx?fs_by=FlightNumber&fs_num=1800&fs_date=2011-03-10	[12:28]
luciash	sylvieg: it is scheduled above highlighted to fly to Boston at 9:45AM EST sylvieg: so u got plenty of time still ;)	[12:28]
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sylvieg	back you are genius guys I do not understand why I do not see the flight on the airport site ... whatever	[12:37]
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sylvieg	sylvieg putting rick flight information on my calendar	[12:40]
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ricks99	ack. 403 forbidden error when trying to edit a tiki.org page :(	[13:03]
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sylvieg	do we have a function in tiki that takes away the accent?	[13:14]
luciash	yes, i think so the one chibaguy had to correct recently while accidentaly saving the file with non-utf8	[13:28]
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sylvieg	found one take_away_accent in tikilib	[13:43]
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bobo	hello anybody there?	[14:00]
ricks99	i am	[14:01]
bobo	sorry not very familiar with irc I have a problem concerning profiles profile-repo to be more precise Apparently I can't connect to the standard http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/profile I never get green. network-connectivity/name-resolution are ok on commandline	[14:01]
ricks99	try http://profiles.tiki.org/	[14:02]
bobo	I even tried to give apache a shell and coujd lynx to the profile-repo	[14:03]
ricks99	or check your prox and or firewall settings	[14:03]
bobo	I use no proxy and no outgouing firewall	[14:04]
ricks99	can you ping http://profiles.tiki.org/	[14:04]
bobo	the webserver itself has routed access to the internet. lynx to it yes ping: ok	[14:04]
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ricks99	what tiki version are you running?	[14:05]
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bobo	4.3	[14:06]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33305 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX]category: better fix for 29936 + 33178. fix change_categ param id + sort with categ name with accent	[14:06]
matthwy	hi, problem with wiki. + don't indent text	[14:06]
ricks99	ah. that's pretty old and no longer supported. can you upgrade to the current 6.2? i'm able to conntect to the profiles repository with no problems	[14:06]
matthwy	version 6.2	[14:07]
bobo	hm. will try it somewhere else on the server.	[14:07]
luciash	matthwy: hi, what's ur problem ?	[14:07]
bobo	Any experience with keeping content doing an upgrade such huge?	[14:07]
matthwy	on wiki the character + don't indent text	[14:08]
ricks99	@bobo: just be sure to back up files & db first. check release notes, too, especially the db encoding @bobo: other than that, I have encountered no issues running upgrades	[14:08]
bobo	ok. will have a look in this direction. Thank's a lot, ricks99 !!	[14:09]
ricks99	you're welcome	[14:09]
luciash	matthwy: i don't understand	[14:09]
ricks99	@matthwy: it only indents when part of a list (bulleted or numbered) and cannot have any blank lines between	[14:10]
luciash	matthwy: + is used to continue the text on next line under ordered or unordered list (indicated by * or # on the previous line)	[14:10]
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matthwy	@luciash: I try to use tiki to manage a wiki. I need to create a new page with some text that is indented (an index). The special character that I should use is +, but the text don't indent.	[14:11]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33306 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [bp/r33305][FIX]category: better fix for 29936 + 33178. fix change_categ param id + sort with categ name with accent	[14:13]
ricks99	@matthwy: the + only indents when part of a list (as luciash said). prehaps you want to use the "definition list" tags instead	[14:13]
sylvieg	luciash: can you try 33306? thx	[14:13]
luciash	matthwy: for index (toc) use {maketoc} on the page (i will create the toc automatically from headings on the page) matthwy: see http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki+Syntax for more info matthwy: or here: http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Text&structure=Documentation+TOC#Indent	[14:13]
matthwy	@luciash: thanks a lot.	[14:15]
luciash	sylvieg: i don't have trunk ready to test that	[14:17]
sylvieg	and a proposal 6.x?	[14:17]
luciash	sylvieg: i have tested it on proposals branch so far but if you're patient i can test it later today	[14:17]
sylvieg	I commited also in proposal	[14:18]
luciash	ah let me check then	[14:18]
sylvieg	not sure I got all the case... in fact I do notm undersand lindon commit...	[14:19]
luciash	sylvieg: ooooh, seems you left some debug print there sylvieg: but the fix seem to work in general	[14:19]
sylvieg	oops	[14:20]
luciash	sylvieg: pls remove the debug print and it will be perfect :)	[14:20]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33307 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: oops debug	[14:21]
sylvieg	the QT will kill me ;-)	[14:21]
CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33308 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: oops debug	[14:21]
luciash	sylvieg: :D :D :D sylvieg: thank you for the fix	[14:22]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33309 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Removed unneeded installer variables tikiwiki: [FIX] Detect in tiki-show_page_raw.tpl if is a slideshow and turned off header which would take ownership of slideshow	[15:02]
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shotintoeternity	Hey everyone, how's it going? First time Tiki installer and had a question about international characters I am seeing international characters showing up as question marks Went into phpMyAdmin and changed the collation to utf8_general But I'm still seeing it	[15:57]
ricks99	did you change the actual db tables too? and does the connection info from tiki use UTF? see faqs for details http://doc.tiki.org/tiki+faqs there are 3 items to check: the DB, the tabldes, and the connection collation	[15:58]
shotintoeternity	Hey ricks99, thanks for your help I haven't checked the tables yet What's the best way to check them? Also, how do I check the connection info?	[16:00]
ricks99	phpmyadmin	[16:01]
shotintoeternity	Got it... I'm in phpMyAdmin So if I go to Which table?	[16:01]
ricks99	all tables should be utf	[16:02]
shotintoeternity	Is there a way to set all tables to UTF automatically? Or do I have to manually go through each one?	[16:02]
ricks99	you might find this useful: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips how did you create the db?	[16:03]
shotintoeternity	I did a Fantastico install	[16:03]
ricks99	ah... not sure how fantastico defines the db	[16:04]
shotintoeternity	Got it Is there any way to reinstall the database but keep the existing information?	[16:04]
ricks99	you can re-run the installer. select UPGRADE	[16:05]
shotintoeternity	Would this PHP script work? <?php $db = mysql_connect('localhost','myuser_mydbuser','mypassword'); if(!$db) echo "Cannot connect to the database - incorrect details"; mysql_select_db('myuser_mydbname'); $result=mysql_query('show tables'); while($tables = mysql_fetch_array($result)) { foreach ($tables as $key => $value) { mysql_query("ALTER TABLE $value COLLATE utf8_general_ci"); }} echo "The collation of your database has been successfully changed!"; I'm trying to find the upgrade option in Fantastico, but it doesn't look like it's there Is this something I could upgrade manually?	[16:07]
ricks99	Y. go to tiki-install.php	[16:08]
shotintoeternity	I'm a complete n00b at this Got it	[16:08]
ricks99	in the upgrade, there is an option to update the db and tables see http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips be sure to backup first	[16:08]
shotintoeternity	Nice Thanks a lot for your help! Really appreciate it	[16:10]
ricks99	you're welcome happy tiki-ing	[16:10]
shotintoeternity	Thanks :)	[16:11]
	Had one more question I got tiki-install.php working To clarify, it was always working, but I got access to it Tried to upgrade the database But there was no option to change to UTF-8 encoding	[16:20]
ricks99	did u already change the encoding for the db via phpmyadmin?	[16:24]
shotintoeternity	I changed the collation on it It's utf8_general Should I change something else?	[16:29]
ricks99	ok. if you changed the DB manually, the tiki installer may not realize that the tables are wrong. A few options: 1. change the DB back (to match the actual tables) and re-run the tiki-install.php..... 2. Manually change all the TABLES to UTF..... 3. change the DB back to match the actual tables, then manually change your ../db/local.php file to match the actual DB encoding EOL	[16:31]
shotintoeternity	It worked! Went through step #1. Thank you so much. :) I'll try to be back here someday to help	[16:36]
ricks99	have fun	[16:36]
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chealer	Marc's cat waving	[16:58]
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luciash	chealer: where was the cat waving ?	[19:23]
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chealer	luciash: it was waving to the channel. he had a long message coming, just missing an enter :-)	[19:25]
luciash	chealer: ah, still in mtl ? chealer: i imagined the cat waving while the car with you leaving to boston ;)	[19:26]
chealer	luciash: hehe. this place is missing windows for that. leaving this night :-)	[19:28]
luciash	cool	[19:29]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33311 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] A bunch more fixes for slideshow tikiwiki: [ADD] textside to slideshow plugin tikiwiki: [FIX] Fixes for replacing selected text from codemirror and checking for attributes tikiwiki: [ADD] listitemhighlightcolor that will highlight and resize li objects if given a color	[20:10]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33312 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: typo tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33313 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: typo	[20:36]
sylvieg	rodrigo still not there - hope the internet problem is solved in the tiki house	[20:38]
chealer	sylvieg: you're at the airport?	[20:39]
sylvieg	I was	[20:39]
chealer	sylvieg: and you didn't see Rodrigo?	[20:39]
sylvieg	yes I drove Rodrigo from the airport to the tikihouse	[20:39]
chealer	sylvieg: oh OK, he's still not in the IRC channel chealer hopes too	[20:40]
sylvieg	yes the router was working .. but the account in verizon was invalid - something like you did not pay the bill...	[20:40]
chealer	yay	[20:42]
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CIA-83	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33314 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX]category: to have a pagination if a lot of wiki pages tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33315 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-admin_categories.php: [bp/r33314]FIX]category: to have a pagination if a lot of wiki pages	[21:34]
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sylvieg	sylvieg will get 2 white boards for teh tikifest	[23:03]
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luciash	and one more whiteboard in the bigbluebutton ;)	[23:29]
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