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[03:09] <chealer> hi qwebirc41348
[03:09] <chealer> hi qwebirc41348
[03:09] <chealer> hi qwebirc41348
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[03:09] <chealer> hi qwebirc41348
[03:09] <qwebirc55399> hi chealer 
[03:09] <chealer> sorry just testing
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[03:10] <jonnyb> polom qwebirc55399 
[03:11] <qwebirc55399> chealer: what kind of name is that?
[03:13] <qwebirc55399> jonnyb: there is a typo in your nmae
[03:14] <jonnyb> typo?
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[09:20] <chibaguy> polom
[09:22] <chibaguy> In branch 6x, IE6 is getting a rule from css/calendar-print.css on all pages: #middle {padding: 0px !important}.
[09:23] <chibaguy> I don't know where the logic is to load that CSS file, but somehow IE6 gets it all the time.
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[09:40] <luciash> hi chibaguy 
[09:45] <chibaguy> hi luciash
[10:07] <luciash> imho those css files should be loaded only on demand when printing
[10:07] <luciash> as we don't have such clever implementation to use @print
[10:07] <luciash> (which wouldn't work in IE6 anyway i think)
[10:16] <chibaguy> ah, now I see calendar-print.css is being loaded by FF too.
[10:17] <chibaguy> along with calendar.css
[10:17] <luciash> yup
[10:19] <chibaguy> maybe it's usually harmless, but calendar-print.css has #middle {padding: 0 !important} so it could overpower other css rules.
[10:20] <luciash> that's for sure
[10:21] <chibaguy> but you are right that these should be loaded only when actually needed.
[10:21] <chibaguy> I noticed, btw, that _minified_ js is 500kb.
[10:22] <chibaguy> not minified is 1MB
[10:22] <chibaguy> incredible
[10:23] <chibaguy> mainly, jquery-ui is a beast.
[10:34] <chibaguy> in trunk, minified js comes to 590.5 KB.
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[11:27] <luciash> chibaguy: that's terribly lot
[11:32] <chibaguy> yeah, even nowdays with fast connections, that seems like a lot of overhead.
[11:34] <chibaguy> 6-8 times more js than other CMS type sites I checked.
[11:34] <luciash> what about minified CSS ?
[11:34] <luciash> how much is that ?
[11:37] <chibaguy> In branch 6, I see two minified CSS files: one is 104.9KB and one is 105.1KB. I don't know why two.
[11:41] <chibaguy> In trunk, one file, about 105KB.
[11:43] <chibaguy> Hmm, minified CSS from themes.t.o is only 19.2 KB
[11:43] <chibaguy> Is my localhost not minimizing well? Does that vary from one server to another?
[11:44] <chibaguy> JS from themes.t.o is also smaller, at 187KB.
[11:46] <chibaguy> JS from info.t.o: 188KB, JS from doc.t.o: 255KB, JS from t.o: 242KB, JS from dev.t.o:  249KB.
[11:48] <chibaguy> minified CSS from each *.t.o site: about 20KB. Except there are two files being served from info.t.o, each 20.6KB.
[11:48] <chibaguy> So my huge localhost figures aren't typical, fortunately.
[11:48] <luciash> hmm, does it include the Custom CSS from L&F perhaps ?
[11:50] <chibaguy> No, both files seem to be minified from the same starting data.
[11:50] <chibaguy> I see the body selector and rules in both, for exampe.
[11:50] <chibaguy> example.
[11:51] <chibaguy> but the order of selectors is different.
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[12:17] <sylvieg> I have a problem I am supposed to pick up rodrigo at the aiport at to go to the tikihouse - but I can not find is flight US1800
[12:18] <sylvieg> What is US US airways?
[12:18] <ricks99> probabaly
[12:19] <luciash> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1800
[12:19] <ricks99> awe?
[12:19] <luciash> r u sure about the flight ID ?
[12:19] <sylvieg> awe or US?
[12:20] <luciash> http://info.flightmapper.net/flight?q=US_Airways_US_1800
[12:20] <sylvieg> but charlotte et not boston
[12:20] <luciash> says Boston, should be it ?
[12:20] <sylvieg> http://tiki.org/TikiFestBoston7
[12:20] <ricks99> gets into boston 5:26
[12:21] <sylvieg> rodrigo arrives at 11:56
[12:21] <luciash> sylvieg: yep, sorry, the first one was wrong
[12:21] <ricks99> sylvieg: i just got daniels email... will you be able to pick me up on Monday?
[12:21] <luciash> ah, hmm
[12:21] <sylvieg> :-( school time ... I should have check yesterday
[12:21] <sylvieg> I can but first I need to solve rodrigo flight
[12:21] <sylvieg> and he has no cell phone...
[12:22] <ricks99> i'll email you details. k?
[12:23] <ricks99> looks like rodrigo flight is currently on timne: http://flights.usairways.com/FlightStatus.aspx?fs_by=FlightNumber&fs_num=1800-PBI,1800-CLT&fs_date=2011-03-10
[12:24] <luciash> sylvieg: i think it goes through Charlotte
[12:25] <ricks99> yes. west palm beach -> charlotte -> boston
[12:25] <luciash> at least the returning flight suggests so: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1489
[12:25] <luciash> ricks99: right :)
[12:25] <ricks99> had i known, i could have driven to charlotte to say hi :-)
[12:27] <luciash> sylvieg: so this seems to be correct → 
[12:27] <luciash> http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1800
[12:28] <luciash> sylvieg: he's not yet in Charlotte
[12:28] <ricks99> yes. he arrives boston gate B8 at 11:56am http://flights.usairways.com/FlightStatus.aspx?fs_by=FlightNumber&fs_num=1800&fs_date=2011-03-10
[12:28] <luciash> sylvieg: it is scheduled above highlighted to fly to Boston at 9:45AM EST
[12:29] <luciash> sylvieg: so u got plenty of time still ;)
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[12:37] <sylvieg> back
[12:38] <sylvieg> you are genius guys
[12:38] <sylvieg> I do not understand why I do not see the flight on the airport site ... whatever
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[12:40] * sylvieg putting rick flight information on my calendar
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[13:03] <ricks99> ack. 403 forbidden error when trying to edit a tiki.org page :(
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[13:14] <sylvieg> do we have a function in tiki that takes away the accent?
[13:28] <luciash> yes, i think so
[13:28] <luciash> the one chibaguy had to correct recently while accidentaly saving the file with non-utf8
[13:43] <sylvieg> found one take_away_accent in tikilib
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[14:00] <bobo> hello
[14:00] <bobo> anybody there?
[14:01] <ricks99> i am
[14:01] <bobo> sorry
[14:01] <bobo> not very familiar with irc
[14:01] <bobo> I have a problem concerning profiles
[14:01] <bobo> profile-repo to be more precise
[14:02] <bobo> Apparently I can't connect to the standard http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/profile 
[14:02] <bobo> I never get green.
[14:02] <bobo> network-connectivity/name-resolution are ok on commandline
[14:02] <ricks99> try http://profiles.tiki.org/
[14:03] <bobo> I even tried to give apache a shell and coujd lynx to the profile-repo
[14:03] <ricks99> or check your prox and or firewall settings
[14:04] <bobo> I use no proxy and no outgouing firewall
[14:04] <ricks99> can you ping http://profiles.tiki.org/
[14:04] <bobo> the webserver itself has routed access to the internet. lynx to it
[14:04] <bobo> yes ping: ok
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[14:05] <ricks99> what tiki version are you running?
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[14:06] <bobo> 4.3
[14:06] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33305 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX]category: better fix for 29936 + 33178. fix change_categ param id + sort with categ name with accent
[14:06] <matthwy> hi, problem with wiki. + don't indent text
[14:06] <ricks99> ah. that's pretty old and no longer supported. can you upgrade to the current 6.2? i'm able to conntect to the profiles repository with no problems
[14:07] <matthwy> version 6.2
[14:07] <bobo> hm. will try it somewhere else on the server.
[14:07] <luciash> matthwy: hi, what's ur problem ?
[14:07] <bobo> Any experience with keeping content doing an upgrade such huge?
[14:08] <matthwy> on wiki the character + don't indent text
[14:08] <ricks99> @bobo: just be sure to back up files & db first. check release notes, too, especially the db encoding
[14:08] <ricks99> @bobo: other than that, I have encountered no issues running upgrades
[14:09] <bobo> ok. will have a look in this direction. Thank's a lot, ricks99 !!
[14:09] <ricks99> you're welcome
[14:09] <luciash> matthwy: i don't understand
[14:10] <ricks99> @matthwy: it only indents when part of a list (bulleted or numbered) and cannot have any blank lines between
[14:10] <luciash> matthwy: + is used to continue the text on next line under ordered or unordered list (indicated by * or # on the previous line)
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[14:11] <matthwy> @luciash: I try to use tiki to manage a wiki. I need to create a new page with some text that is indented (an index). The special character that I should use is +, but the text don't indent.
[14:13] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33306 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [bp/r33305][FIX]category: better fix for 29936 + 33178. fix change_categ param id + sort with categ name with accent
[14:13] <ricks99> @matthwy: the + only indents when part of a list (as luciash said). prehaps you want to use the "definition list" tags instead
[14:13] <sylvieg> luciash: can you try 33306? thx
[14:13] <luciash> matthwy: for index (toc) use {maketoc} on the page (i will create the toc automatically from headings on the page)
[14:14] <luciash> matthwy: see http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki+Syntax for more info
[14:15] <luciash> matthwy: or here: http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Text&structure=Documentation+TOC#Indent
[14:15] <matthwy> @luciash: thanks a lot.
[14:17] <luciash> sylvieg: i don't have trunk ready to test that
[14:17] <sylvieg> and a proposal 6.x?
[14:17] <luciash> sylvieg: i have tested it on proposals branch so far but if you're patient i can test it later today
[14:18] <sylvieg> I commited also in proposal
[14:18] <luciash> ah
[14:18] <luciash> let me check then
[14:19] <sylvieg> not sure I got all the case... in fact I do notm undersand lindon commit...
[14:19] <luciash> sylvieg: ooooh, seems you left some debug print there
[14:20] <luciash> sylvieg: but the fix seem to work in general
[14:20] <sylvieg> oops
[14:20] <luciash> sylvieg: pls remove the debug print and it will be perfect :)
[14:21] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33307 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: oops debug
[14:21] <sylvieg> the QT will kill me ;-)
[14:21] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33308 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: oops debug
[14:22] <luciash> sylvieg: :D :D :D
[14:22] <luciash> sylvieg: thank you for the fix
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[15:02] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [FIX] Removed unneeded installer variables
[15:02] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [FIX] Detect in tiki-show_page_raw.tpl if is a slideshow and turned off header which would take ownership of slideshow
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[15:57] <shotintoeternity> Hey everyone, how's it going?
[15:57] <shotintoeternity> First time Tiki installer and had a question about international characters
[15:57] <shotintoeternity> I am seeing international characters showing up as question marks
[15:58] <shotintoeternity> Went into phpMyAdmin and changed the collation to utf8_general
[15:58] <shotintoeternity> But I'm still seeing it
[15:58] <ricks99> did you change the actual db *tables* too?
[15:58] <ricks99> and does the connection info from tiki use UTF?
[15:59] <ricks99> see faqs for details http://doc.tiki.org/tiki+faqs
[15:59] <ricks99> there are 3 items to check: the DB, the tabldes, and the connection collation
[16:00] <shotintoeternity> Hey ricks99, thanks for your help
[16:00] <shotintoeternity> I haven't checked the tables yet
[16:00] <shotintoeternity> What's the best way to check them? Also, how do I check the connection info?
[16:01] <ricks99> phpmyadmin
[16:01] <shotintoeternity> Got it... I'm in phpMyAdmin
[16:01] <shotintoeternity> So if I go to
[16:01] <shotintoeternity> Which table?
[16:02] <ricks99> all tables should be utf
[16:02] <shotintoeternity> Is there a way to set all tables to UTF automatically?
[16:02] <shotintoeternity> Or do I have to manually go through each one?
[16:03] <ricks99> you might find this useful: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips
[16:03] <ricks99> how did you create the db?
[16:03] <shotintoeternity> I did a Fantastico install
[16:04] <ricks99> ah... not sure how fantastico defines the db
[16:04] <shotintoeternity> Got it
[16:04] <shotintoeternity> Is there any way to reinstall the database but keep the existing information?
[16:05] <ricks99> you can re-run the installer. select UPGRADE
[16:07] <shotintoeternity> Would this PHP script work?
[16:07] <shotintoeternity> <?php $db = mysql_connect('localhost','myuser_mydbuser','mypassword'); if(!$db) echo "Cannot connect to the database - incorrect details"; mysql_select_db('myuser_mydbname'); $result=mysql_query('show tables'); while($tables = mysql_fetch_array($result)) { foreach ($tables as $key => $value) { mysql_query("ALTER TABLE $value COLLATE utf8_general_ci"); }} echo "The collation of your database has been successfully changed!"; 
[16:08] <shotintoeternity> I'm trying to find the upgrade option in Fantastico, but it doesn't look like it's there
[16:08] <shotintoeternity> Is this something I could upgrade manually?
[16:08] <ricks99> Y. go to tiki-install.php
[16:08] <shotintoeternity> I'm a complete n00b at this
[16:08] <shotintoeternity> Got it
[16:08] <ricks99> in the upgrade, there is an option to update the db and tables
[16:08] <ricks99> see http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Essential+Installation+Tips
[16:08] <ricks99> be sure to backup first
[16:10] <shotintoeternity> Nice
[16:10] <shotintoeternity> Thanks a lot for your help!
[16:10] <shotintoeternity> Really appreciate it
[16:10] <ricks99> you're welcome
[16:11] <ricks99> happy tiki-ing
[16:11] <shotintoeternity> Thanks :)
[16:20] <shotintoeternity> Had one more question
[16:20] <shotintoeternity> I got tiki-install.php working
[16:20] <shotintoeternity> To clarify, it was always working, but I got access to it
[16:20] <shotintoeternity> Tried to upgrade the database
[16:21] <shotintoeternity> But there was no option to change to UTF-8 encoding
[16:24] <ricks99> did u already change the encoding for the db via phpmyadmin?
[16:29] <shotintoeternity> I changed the collation on it
[16:30] <shotintoeternity> It's utf8_general
[16:31] <shotintoeternity> Should I change something else?
[16:31] <ricks99> ok. if you changed the *DB* manually, the tiki installer may not realize that the tables are wrong. A few options:
[16:32] <ricks99> 1. change the DB back (to match the actual tables) and re-run the tiki-install.php.....
[16:32] <ricks99> 2. Manually change all the *TABLES* to UTF.....
[16:32] <ricks99> 3. change the DB back to match the actual tables, then manually change your ../db/local.php file to match the actual DB encoding
[16:32] <ricks99> EOL
[16:36] <shotintoeternity> It worked!
[16:36] <shotintoeternity> Went through step #1.
[16:36] <shotintoeternity> Thank you so much. :)
[16:36] <shotintoeternity> I'll try to be back here someday to help
[16:36] <ricks99> have fun
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[16:38] <chealer>                  
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[16:58] <chealer> Marc's cat waving
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[19:23] <luciash> chealer: where was the cat waving ?
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[19:25] <chealer> luciash: it was waving to the channel. he had a long message coming, just missing an enter :-)
[19:26] <luciash> chealer: ah, still in mtl ?
[19:26] <luciash> chealer: i imagined the cat waving while the car with you leaving to boston ;)
[19:28] <chealer> luciash: hehe. this place is missing windows for that. leaving this night :-)
[19:29] <luciash> cool
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[20:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33311 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[20:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [FIX] A bunch more fixes for slideshow
[20:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [ADD] textside to slideshow plugin
[20:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [FIX] Fixes for replacing selected text from codemirror and checking for attributes
[20:10] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: [ADD] listitemhighlightcolor that will highlight and resize li objects if given a color
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[20:36] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33312 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: typo
[20:36] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33313 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: typo
[20:38] <sylvieg> rodrigo still not there - hope the internet problem is solved in the tiki house
[20:39] <chealer> sylvieg: you're at the airport?
[20:39] <sylvieg> I was
[20:39] <chealer> sylvieg: and you didn't see Rodrigo?
[20:39] <sylvieg> yes I drove Rodrigo from the airport to the tikihouse
[20:40] <chealer> sylvieg: oh OK, he's still not in the IRC channel
[20:40] * chealer hopes too
[20:40] <sylvieg> yes the router was working .. but the account in verizon was invalid - something like you did not pay the bill...
[20:42] <chealer> yay
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[21:34] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33314 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX]category: to have a pagination if a lot of wiki pages
[21:35] <CIA-83> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33315 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-admin_categories.php: [bp/r33314]FIX]category: to have a pagination if a lot of wiki pages
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[23:03] * sylvieg will get 2 white boards for teh tikifest
[23:29] <luciash> and one more whiteboard in the bigbluebutton ;)
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