[00:07] *** redflo has left [00:09] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [00:15] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [00:31] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [00:43] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [00:44] on behalf of the TikiPalace, thank you sylvieg ;-) [00:45] +100 [00:45] delicious [00:47] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [00:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [00:51] from the tower jail, thank you for letting us out for the dinner [00:52] lol [01:00] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:12] hehe [01:29] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33496 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] trackers: move page selector field to handler (plugin/pretty tracker behaviour still to be fully tested) [01:35] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33497 10/trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [KIL] has no other occurences in the code [01:47] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r33498 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] trackers: Move user preference field to handler [02:19] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r33500 10/third_party/jquery/treeTable/ (MIT-LICENSE MIT_LICENSE): forgotten rename in treeTable update [02:20] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33501 10/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] trackers: move in group field to handler [02:36] *** rodrigo_sampaio1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [02:50] *** PrezKennedy has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [02:57] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r33502 10/trunk/templates/tiki.tpl: [02:57] tikiwiki: [FIX] div#tiki-center should contain all the center-column content (page-top [02:57] tikiwiki: modules were excluded but page-bottom modules were included, etc.; having [02:57] tikiwiki: everything in makes applying page-center styling easier, reduces redundant [02:57] tikiwiki: rules, etc.) [03:08] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r33503 10/trunk/styles/ (6 files): [FIX] Redundant rules not needed for individual items (.share, .tellafriend, etc.) put into div#tiki-center; other improvements. [03:12] tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r33504 10/trunk/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] Reattach column show|hide icons to columns. [03:33] *** HiPro has joined #tikiwiki [03:33] *** HiPro is now known as mlpvolt [03:35] heya [03:35] i'm thinking of workspaces and profiles [03:36] is there anything special that would prevent a workspace profile from being created? [03:37] meaning a profile that makes a datachannel, and the datachannel makes the workspace. [03:48] project management profile is a bit like that [04:25] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [04:49] *** chanelym has joined #tikiwiki [04:49] Hello [04:50] *** chanelym has quit IRC (Client Quit) [04:54] so is it possible to set up a datachannel via a profile? [04:54] yes its is almost all wiki of course. except for the actually defining it as a datachannel. [05:11] yes look at project management profile as an example [05:14] i see [05:20] well if i have all the component pieces and the data channel handler exists then, well, will see about making this a this weekend project. [05:20] *** mlpvolt has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110303194838]) [05:40] *** nkoth has quit IRC (Quit: nkoth) [05:40] awesome! [07:31] *** brianlmerritt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [07:50] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [08:29] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [08:57] *** Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki [09:24] *** Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [09:45] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [09:48] New Forum Posts: managing groups and permissions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40815 [10:30] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:33] *** shahid_ has joined #tikiwiki [10:33] You don't have permission to access /tikiwiki/tiki-admin.php on this server [10:34] can anybody help me i m facing this problem You don't have permission to access /tikiwiki/tiki-admin.php on this server [10:34] tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r33505 10/trunk/tiki-accounting_stack.php: [FIX] Don't use sizeof use count instead - quality.tiki.org [10:34] *** Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki [10:38] You don't have permission to access /tikiwiki/tiki-admin.php on this server i received this message when i apply for comppany intranet profile. [10:53] *** Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [11:06] *** shahid_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [11:19] *** LN has joined #tikiwiki [11:28] *** kiilo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [11:56] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33506 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackeritemfield.php: '[FIX]TRACKERITEMFIELD: perm denied if not in an allowed group [11:58] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33507 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackeritemfield.php: [bp/r33506][FIX]TRACKERITEMFIELD: perm denied if not in an allowed group [12:16] *** LN has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:44] *** LN has joined #tikiwiki [12:51] polom [13:00] polom [13:07] *** RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki [13:10] polom all [13:11] lla molop [13:11] lphuberdeau: You up for a chat? [13:11] or whomever [13:11] luciash: Hey! [13:13] In the future we talked about writing a new type of parser for Wiki syntax in Tiki. And I've search (it feels like) the entire web looking for something comparable to Jison for PHP, But I haven't found as well built (and Jison is in pre Beta!). I think we may be back to server side javascript. That being said, has anyone ran across anything capable of doing that? [13:15] I found Esxx - http://esxx.org/download.html - But it is Java based, so you have to install it. [13:16] RobertPlummer: in the future ? hmm, u mean in the past, right ? ;) [13:16] Right, sorry [13:16] We talked about writing it possibly for 8, so both actually. [13:17] In the future (future tense) we talked (past tense) [13:17] we cannot rely on anything java based [13:17] Perhaps I was talking about this conversation [13:17] lol [13:17] :) [13:17] Exactly! [13:18] I just don't understand why there isn't a PHP language parser! [13:18] Or a javascript to php converter [13:18] there is, xml [13:19] Explain.... [13:19] I think this is what we are trying to do: http://sourceforge.net/projects/j4p5/ [13:20] But it looks to be very slow. [13:20] tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r33508 10/trunk/css/admin.css: [FIX] Duplicate definition - quality.tiki.org [13:20] i don't get exactly what parser means... earlier i thought: parser ? it's just bunch of regexps ! but then i learned, it has to be something with defined DTD... with some rules as XML is [13:21] luciash: A parser simply looks at something to determine what it is and how to use it. [13:22] There are all kinds of parser, we use tons of them in Tiki, what we want specifically is a "language parser" [13:22] good morning [13:23] we can't use server-side javascript, no way that will run on shared hosts [13:23] lphuberdeau: we can if it is a php class. [13:24] good luck finding one [13:24] j4php5 [13:24] http://sourceforge.net/projects/j4p5/ [13:25] have never seen it, it is not updated in a year [13:26] and license is wrong (GPL) [13:26] so i am unsure how to write it... some years ago i suggested in tiki we could store whole pages "as-is" in pure xhtml (it's xml so it could be exported to anything easily using xslt) and do the parsing while editing the page (as opposite what we do now - "parsing" on page display) but that wasn't considered as good idea [13:26] I think what we can do there is generate a php equivalent to js, and possibly modify it to freeze the php, or output the php that it has interpreted the js from. [13:26] luciash: That is right, there are to many server side things that need to happen for that to be an alternative. [13:27] *** kiilo has joined #tikiwiki [13:27] the problem is mostly that the output depends on who sees it [13:27] there are user preferences at play and many plugins will use information that changes over time [13:28] oh, last project update was a bug report, last code change is in 2005 [13:28] yup [13:28] scary! [13:28] Perhaps it is stable? [13:28] (loading it up) [13:29] If we just use the output of this thing, than there will be no need to put it in Tiki as a supported project. [13:30] *** Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki [13:31] I don't think it's a good idea to rely on a project that had a single author that is now gone [13:31] stable or not [13:31] lphuberdeau: eek [13:31] * luciash hides [13:31] ;) [13:32] well, i am not gone yet [13:33] and gary is a backup guy :) [13:33] Yea, it's no good. [13:33] * luciash points out on lite css [13:33] So from this point, how do you guys feel we should proceed? [13:35] RobertPlummer: i really don't know [13:35] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [13:35] *** sylvieg has left [13:36] last day 'fest poloms [13:36] RobertPlummer: i would probably start with making the tikilib kinda lighter and put the parsing functions in separate libs [13:36] hi jonnyb [13:37] yeah, moving everything parser-related outside of tikilib is definitely a good first step [13:37] I think so too, but which parser? [13:37] without changing the parser [13:38] I almost want to write a simple parser for Jison that parsed PHP from javascript, and write it all in javascript. That way, written once, done. [13:38] And because we have the javascript parser we can start to do some really cool UI stuff for the users [13:39] agreed, it would be nice [13:40] *** Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [13:40] lphuberdeau: nice as in, "cool lets do it", or nice like "That would be nice, also time-travel would be nice"? [13:41] I think we would need time travel to do it now or in a near future [13:41] lol [13:41] You have to start somewhere [13:42] it's just one of those things, server side javascript is gaining momentum, surely someone will do the legwork for us and in the future it will be more reasonable [13:43] the parser is too critical, we can't really rely on experimental javascript executing librairies for that [13:43] and as far as bison/jison parsers go, I have not seen any project in PHP that seem mature [13:44] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [13:46] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33509 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Rename methods to avoid confusion [13:47] i missed the beginning of this conversation but we're not planning on doing any major refactoring of tikilib before 7.x branch, are we? [13:47] after branching I would say [13:47] enough moving parts as it is [13:51] We are talking about 8, possibly 9. [13:51] There is still a bunch of research before anything can even happen. [13:52] jonnyb: How is your blood pressure so close to 7? [13:59] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [14:03] last tikifest day... :( [14:06] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33510 10/trunk/ (30 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Moving classes to separate files [14:06] kind of looking forward to sleeping during the bus ride back home [14:08] *** Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki [14:13] *** nkoth has joined #tikiwiki [14:24] 10 o'clock meeting at 11:00 ok? [14:25] sounds good [14:31] *** dcedilotte has joined #tikiwiki [14:31] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33511 10/trunk/tiki-calendar_export_ical.php: [FIX]calendar: wysiwyg + tiki_p_view_events should be enough to export an event [14:32] *** brianlmerritt has joined #tikiwiki [14:34] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33512 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-calendar_export_ical.php: [bp/r33511]FIX]calendar: wysiwyg + tiki_p_view_events should be enough to export an event [14:36] jonnyb: well, we have to pick a time, don't we [14:37] how about 11:00 chealer? [14:37] and bring the frying pan :P [14:39] jonnyb: yeah, I don't see another time that would make more sense [14:39] super [14:39] the frying pan is the huge one? can do [14:40] not so huge - about 14" diameter [14:44] *** RobertPlummer has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [14:57] ok, last meeting of TikiFestBoston7 starting any time now... [15:01] *** ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [15:05] jonnyb: enjoy [15:05] still no bbb i suppose [15:07] indeed [15:07] *** RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki [15:08] I'm back! [15:09] indeed [15:09] :) [15:11] Thanks guys for giving suggestions about the parser bit, I know it is not fun to talk about.... [15:11] Switching to Bug smashing mode! [15:21] *** RobertPlummer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:26] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [15:39] *** Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [15:47] *** redflo has left [15:49] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33513 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Abstract.php: [FIX]tracker: some templates used by renderTemplate needs item in smarty [16:00] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb) [16:06] Q: when creating a menu option, is there no way to use wiki page + strucutre? or do i need to use URL syntax? [16:11] URL syntax [16:12] that's what I was afraid of :( [16:12] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [16:12] calling unit 1 - there are a few extra sausages here if anyone's peckish [16:13] how 'bout throwing them in the chili pot? [16:13] * ricks99 thinking of lunch in a bit... [16:13] good plan - there are a few more spicy ones down there we could fry also [16:14] tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r33514 10/trunk/styles/ (4 files in 2 dirs): de-duplicate some css class definitions [16:17] before everyone leaves boston, if any tikifesters want e-book copies of Tiki Essentials (the best selling tiki book of all time) just let me know... [16:22] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r33515 10/trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] trackers: Move freetags field to handler [16:24] yes please ricks99 - how? via usb stick? [16:24] y, i have it on usb (epub and kindle) come down any time [16:25] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:25] hmmm, will either of them work on mac stuff? [16:25] epub will work on any (nearly) viewer - nook, ipad, etc. Kindle MOBI is Amazon specific [16:25] take both :-) [16:27] super thanks, will do later... [16:28] ok, quitting now - need 100% brain [16:28] *** jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb) [16:30] no problem [16:32] @all: updated doc snapshots on http://tiki.org/doctwo+Revamp [16:36] *** nkoth_ has joined #tikiwiki [16:36] *** nkoth__ has joined #tikiwiki [16:39] *** nkoth has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:39] *** nkoth__ is now known as nkoth [16:40] *** nkoth_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:48] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r33516 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker.tpl: missing closing {/if} [16:55] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33517 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): move radio field to handler [17:10] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:27] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33518 10/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] jscalendar handler [17:34] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33519 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker.tpl: [FIX] Parse error (sorry) [17:53] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [17:55] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [18:22] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33520 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Action handler [18:32] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3823 - - trackerlist plugin with popup kills any browser - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3823 [18:34] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [18:54] *** LN has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:10] New Forum Posts: Anchor tag not displaying correctly for one group - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=40816 [19:18] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.renoise.com/) [19:21] *** brianlmerritt has left [19:35] tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r33521 10/trunk/css/ (admin.css calendar.css cssmenus.css freetags.css metrics.css): reindent and remove some commented code on some css files [19:41] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33522 10/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [MOD] Stars and rating handlers [19:55] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33523 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [FIX]missing list_mode [20:01] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33524 10/trunk/ (lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_slideshow.php tiki-slideshow.php): [ADD] Theme support for slideshow [20:04] *** Tiki|bot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [20:05] *** Tiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki [20:09] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33525 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_slideshow.php: [FIX] Css fixes to include the menu/title bar inverted with header colors [20:15] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33526 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_slideshow.php: [20:15] tikiwiki: [FIX] theme start looked a little funny [20:15] tikiwiki: [FIX] Added css of header to anchors, so you know they are there [20:17] *** RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki [20:17] polom all, have my commits went through? [20:17] My svn client is acting funny.... [20:18] nm, I looked at the log... [20:18] they did [20:22] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33527 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_slideshow.php: [MOD] Changed the styling for anchors to only be those found in slideshow (oops!) [20:34] *** RobertPlummer has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [20:35] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33528 10/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] trackers: move header field to handler (now uses jQuery to manipulate the DOM as fields now can be placed anywhere) [20:38] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r33529 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] trackers: Move computed field to handler (missing file) [20:44] New Forum Posts: Como criar RSS para uma página wiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=9&comments_parentId=40820 [20:51] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r33530 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] trackers: move web services field to handler (pretty tracker broken) [21:00] *** dcedilotte has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:23] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r33531 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/WebService.php: [FIX] Should not have wiki syntax in web services template - avoid np appearing [21:23] *** Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki [21:25] *** uSlacker|2 has joined #tikiwiki [21:35] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [21:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [21:38] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33532 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] Disable the calculated field by default and only allow to enable it when usage is attempted (intentionally not in admin panels) [21:42] tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r33533 10/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] trackers: Move usergroups field to handler (missing file) [21:46] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r33534 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] greaterequal and other comparisons doing only string comparison resulting in 11 being smaller than 9 [21:50] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r33535 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [bp/r33534][FIX] greaterequal and other comparisons doing only string comparison resulting in 11 being smaller than 9 [22:16] *** kiilo has left [22:22] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r33536 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): user subscription to handler: not working yet [22:25] *** Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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