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HiPro is now known as mlpvolt mlpvolt: heya
i'm thinking of workspaces and profiles
is there anything special that would prevent a workspace profile from being created?
meaning a profile that makes a datachannel, and the datachannel makes the workspace. marclaporte: project management profile is a bit like that ***: ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
chanelym has joined #tikiwiki chanelym: Hello ***: chanelym has quit IRC (Client Quit) mlpvolt: so is it possible to set up a datachannel via a profile?
yes its is almost all wiki of course. except for the actually defining it as a datachannel. marclaporte: yes look at project management profile as an example mlpvolt: i see
well if i have all the component pieces and the data channel handler exists then, well, will see about making this a this weekend project. ***: mlpvolt has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110303194838])
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can anybody help me i m facing this problem You don't have permission to access /tikiwiki/tiki-admin.php on this server CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r33505 10/trunk/tiki-accounting_stack.php: [FIX] Don't use sizeof use count instead - quality.tiki.org ***: Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki shahid_: You don't have permission to access /tikiwiki/tiki-admin.php on this server i received this message when i apply for comppany intranet profile. ***: Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)
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LN has joined #tikiwiki chealer: polom luciash: polom ***: RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: polom all luciash: lla molop RobertPlummer: lphuberdeau: You up for a chat?
or whomever
luciash: Hey!
In the future we talked about writing a new type of parser for Wiki syntax in Tiki. And I've search (it feels like) the entire web looking for something comparable to Jison for PHP, But I haven't found as well built (and Jison is in pre Beta!). I think we may be back to server side javascript. That being said, has anyone ran across anything capable of doing that?
I found Esxx - http://esxx.org/download.html - But it is Java based, so you have to install it. luciash: RobertPlummer: in the future ? hmm, u mean in the past, right ? ;) RobertPlummer: Right, sorry
We talked about writing it possibly for 8, so both actually.
In the future (future tense) we talked (past tense) luciash: we cannot rely on anything java based RobertPlummer: Perhaps I was talking about this conversation
lol luciash: :) RobertPlummer: Exactly!
I just don't understand why there isn't a PHP language parser!
Or a javascript to php converter luciash: there is, xml RobertPlummer: Explain....
I think this is what we are trying to do: http://sourceforge.net/projects/j4p5/
But it looks to be very slow. CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r33508 10/trunk/css/admin.css: [FIX] Duplicate definition - quality.tiki.org luciash: i don't get exactly what parser means... earlier i thought: parser ? it's just bunch of regexps ! but then i learned, it has to be something with defined DTD... with some rules as XML is RobertPlummer: luciash: A parser simply looks at something to determine what it is and how to use it.
There are all kinds of parser, we use tons of them in Tiki, what we want specifically is a "language parser" lphuberdeau: good morning
we can't use server-side javascript, no way that will run on shared hosts RobertPlummer: lphuberdeau: we can if it is a php class. lphuberdeau: good luck finding one RobertPlummer: j4php5
http://sourceforge.net/projects/j4p5/ lphuberdeau: have never seen it, it is not updated in a year
and license is wrong (GPL) luciash: so i am unsure how to write it... some years ago i suggested in tiki we could store whole pages "as-is" in pure xhtml (it's xml so it could be exported to anything easily using xslt) and do the parsing while editing the page (as opposite what we do now - "parsing" on page display) but that wasn't considered as good idea RobertPlummer: I think what we can do there is generate a php equivalent to js, and possibly modify it to freeze the php, or output the php that it has interpreted the js from.
luciash: That is right, there are to many server side things that need to happen for that to be an alternative. ***: kiilo has joined #tikiwiki lphuberdeau: the problem is mostly that the output depends on who sees it
there are user preferences at play and many plugins will use information that changes over time
oh, last project update was a bug report, last code change is in 2005 RobertPlummer: yup
scary!
Perhaps it is stable?
(loading it up)
If we just use the output of this thing, than there will be no need to put it in Tiki as a supported project. ***: Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki lphuberdeau: I don't think it's a good idea to rely on a project that had a single author that is now gone
stable or not luciash: lphuberdeau: eek -: luciash hides luciash: ;)
well, i am not gone yet
and gary is a backup guy :) RobertPlummer: Yea, it's no good. -: luciash points out on lite css RobertPlummer: So from this point, how do you guys feel we should proceed? luciash: RobertPlummer: i really don't know ***: jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki
sylvieg has left jonnyb: last day 'fest poloms luciash: RobertPlummer: i would probably start with making the tikilib kinda lighter and put the parsing functions in separate libs
hi jonnyb lphuberdeau: yeah, moving everything parser-related outside of tikilib is definitely a good first step RobertPlummer: I think so too, but which parser? lphuberdeau: without changing the parser RobertPlummer: I almost want to write a simple parser for Jison that parsed PHP from javascript, and write it all in javascript. That way, written once, done.
And because we have the javascript parser we can start to do some really cool UI stuff for the users lphuberdeau: agreed, it would be nice ***: Yonixxx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) RobertPlummer: lphuberdeau: nice as in, "cool lets do it", or nice like "That would be nice, also time-travel would be nice"? lphuberdeau: I think we would need time travel to do it now or in a near future RobertPlummer: lol
You have to start somewhere lphuberdeau: it's just one of those things, server side javascript is gaining momentum, surely someone will do the legwork for us and in the future it will be more reasonable
the parser is too critical, we can't really rely on experimental javascript executing librairies for that
and as far as bison/jison parsers go, I have not seen any project in PHP that seem mature ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33509 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Rename methods to avoid confusion jonnyb: i missed the beginning of this conversation but we're not planning on doing any major refactoring of tikilib before 7.x branch, are we? lphuberdeau: after branching I would say
enough moving parts as it is RobertPlummer: We are talking about 8, possibly 9.
There is still a bunch of research before anything can even happen.
jonnyb: How is your blood pressure so close to 7? ***: ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki ricks99: last tikifest day... :( CIA-83: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r33510 10/trunk/ (30 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Moving classes to separate files lphuberdeau: kind of looking forward to sleeping during the bus ride back home ***: Yonixxx has joined #tikiwiki
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and bring the frying pan :P chealer: jonnyb: yeah, I don't see another time that would make more sense jonnyb: super chealer: the frying pan is the huge one? can do jonnyb: not so huge - about 14" diameter ***: RobertPlummer has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) jonnyb: ok, last meeting of TikiFestBoston7 starting any time now... ***: ricks99 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) luciash: jonnyb: enjoy
still no bbb i suppose chealer: indeed ***: RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki RobertPlummer: I'm back! luciash: indeed
:) RobertPlummer: Thanks guys for giving suggestions about the parser bit, I know it is not fun to talk about....
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take both :-) jonnyb: super thanks, will do later...
ok, quitting now - need 100% brain ***: jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: jonnyb) ricks99: no problem
@all: updated doc snapshots on http://tiki.org/doctwo+Revamp ***: nkoth_ has joined #tikiwiki
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My svn client is acting funny....
nm, I looked at the log...
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