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| luciash | it's not easy to preview... preview profile (or apply temporarily) is not implemented part of the feature yet (there might be something in works in the development trunk tho) | [00:00] |
| majuk | Ok, just wondering. Thanks for your input | [00:00] |
| luciash | u can only review the profile YAML code | [00:00] |
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| luciash | "manually" | [00:00] |
| majuk | Yea, I see that, but it doesn't mean a whole lot to me really. | [00:00] |
| luciash | some profiles has more to add in the descriptions and comments in the wiki pages | [00:01] |
| majuk | I'm a sys admin, setting up this to track our facility deployments out of necessity | [00:01] |
| luciash | but some profiles are just plain "undocumented" YAML | [00:01] |
| majuk | I suppose I'll resort to just doing it. Such is life in the world of open source.
:D | [00:02] |
| luciash | :)
did u try apply the Pretty Tracker nested demo ? profile i don't know exactly what u mean by company deployment but ... | [00:02] |
| majuk | Basically, I am making a form to track networking and site information.
Because it's usually a mess when everyone talks and no one writes anything down. "Do they have their own wireless?" is a question I am tired of scrambling to answer. Among others. Anyway, I'll check out Pretty Tracker | [00:04] |
| luciash | http://profiles.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Pretty_Tracker_Nested_Demo | [00:07] |
| majuk | Can't say I know what to do with this page.
But thanks again anyway | [00:09] |
| luciash | the link is just to review
to apply go to Admin > Profiles and look for its name | [00:14] |
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| luciash | wb marclaporte
how do u feel ? any better ? | [00:20] |
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| marclaporte | better, but still not well | [00:21] |
| luciash | k, step by step :) | [00:21] |
| marclaporte | :-) | [00:25] |
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| ricks99 | polom y'all | [10:58] |
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| Trebly | <jonnyb>Hi, I have know a server which is able to deliver a 7x page (loaded with calendars) in 10 to 15s. so I can show a development before commit and the sources into the exprerimental branch. I will send the address after last test (auth limited) | [12:07] |
| jonnyb | hi Trebly - did you get your conflicts sorted out?
i'm really sort of time this week (for a change!) - why not commit to the experimental branch and i'll have a look? | [12:11] |
| luciash | polom
10 to 15s is pretty lot | [12:17] |
| jonnyb | yes, i was wondering if that's a problem or solution...
i've seen worse (and better) polom luciash | [12:18] |
| luciash | jonnyb: yup, happy after noon | [12:19] |
| jonnyb | don't say scary things like that - still need more coffee (internal timezone somewhere mid-atlantic)
:) | [12:19] |
| luciash | :D
jonnyb: after coffee - got a q on u: i experience content loss in wysiwyg editor when i switch the tab to set category and go back to the first tab in 6.2 - is it known issue to u ? chrome browser | [12:20] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Pb affichage sous menu de structure - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=40860 | [12:27] |
| jonnyb | re
no, not spotted that at all luciash although there are quite a few issues still with cke - sadly no time/budget to look at them at the mo | [12:30] |
| luciash | first i thought it happens only with autosave, but then i switched autosave off and it did it again... so my only workaround now is to switch off tabs feature globally | [12:33] |
| jonnyb | bizarre
only in chrome? | [12:33] |
| luciash | i will re-check in FF | [12:33] |
| jonnyb | checking safari here
anything in particular to look for? (total content loss you mean?) seems fine here | [12:34] |
| luciash | yes. i have one page saved in wysiwyg
when i re-edit and switch to another tab and back, the content in the wysiwyg area is gone | [12:36] |
| jonnyb | coo, not nice
added to list - is this 6.x only? | [12:36] |
| luciash | no idea, i tested in 6 so far
did u reproduce ? wanna check on my site ? | [12:38] |
| jonnyb | sorry - deadlines | [12:44] |
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| luciash | jonnyb: FF does the same
jonnyb: the Wysiwyg profile was applied btw, if that matters jonnyb: and btw, can we remove the development notice yet ? | [12:54] |
| jonnyb | doesn't sound like it... :( | [12:55] |
| luciash | ok (i mean the development notice which appears on editing page if i disable some feature which is needed for the Wysiwyg profile) | [12:57] |
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| lphuberdeau | well, those features are needed to get wysiwyg to work properly | [13:20] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r33574 10/trunk/styles/coelesce.css: fix commented section | [13:22] |
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| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: how do I do not to have 'A and B' not interpreted as a AND query in unified search? | [13:28] |
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| lphuberdeau | how would you want it to be interpreted? | [13:30] |
| luciash | lphuberdeau: why is autosave needed to make wysiwyg work properly ? | [13:30] |
| sylvieg | to look for a and string..
it is only I want to document the syntax.. | [13:30] |
| lphuberdeau | luciash: I have no clue, but that profile contains flags that make wysiwyg work, removing stuff may cause trouble
all of the syntax is documented in tests | [13:31] |
| jonnyb | wysiwyg uses autosave to process plugins and to switch to and from source view | [13:31] |
| sylvieg | ok I can do a "and" tester | [13:32] |
| lphuberdeau | and on dev.tiki.org/Unified+Search (although someone stroke out the OR matching, which is not true/implemented) | [13:32] |
| sylvieg | thx - yes who stroke out OR?
I agree it is wrong | [13:34] |
| lphuberdeau | probably marc | [13:34] |
| luciash | jonnyb: ah, tks | [13:35] |
| lphuberdeau | lib/test/core/Search/Expr/ParserTest.php | [13:35] |
| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: also I put the boost on title, etc.. that is not well implemented - need to be on object basis - but I can not have it works as it is now? Is the boost redefined somewhere? | [13:38] |
| lphuberdeau | what do you mean?
right now, there is no weighting on anything | [13:38] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb> I will do, but it's easier to have first an url to look at the result and commit to the exprerimental branch to see what I have done.
I am not completely ready, this because during three month I had near 140s to generate a page which made the development very slow (I got 10 factor). During this time a lot of files concerned by my changes have been modified and the merges crashes my work (particularly css and tpl). I am looking for the way to change the merge into a conflict if files are css or tpl. Simultaneously I test Eclipse with aptana (as plugin) using the server as development platform. This takes time, it was the priority and I need to use my server while before I was using my portable till 5.2. | [13:39] |
| sylvieg | I want to boost the title for instance to have a term in a title more important thatn a term in a content | [13:39] |
| lphuberdeau | it's not "now well implemented", it's "not implemented" | [13:39] |
| sylvieg | so I added in Lucene.php fieldBoost
but before I implement it correctly I need to have it works | [13:40] |
| lphuberdeau | the main issue you will run into is that a normal search does not actually search in the title field | [13:41] |
| sylvieg | ahaha... my test seems to search on title
(name og a page) | [13:42] |
| lphuberdeau | it searches in the 'contents' field, which is aggregated at index time
and contains the title in there | [13:42] |
| sylvieg | :-( I did not see thath | [13:42] |
| lphuberdeau | the default behavior of searching all fields in the lucene implementation caused major timeouts
however, the fieldboost still has a use to nullify the ranking provided by permissions matched | [13:43] |
| sylvieg | So you use it? | [13:45] |
| lphuberdeau | have not seen the code, but something like that was needed, just ran out of time | [13:45] |
| sylvieg | so is it possible to implement a boosting on page name for instance? | [13:46] |
| lphuberdeau | it's query-dependent | [13:47] |
| sylvieg | query?
it should be in the index | [13:47] |
| lphuberdeau | well, if you boost the title field but not search on it, you have an issue | [13:48] |
| ripero | Are there any plans to integrate flattr buttons to tiki? | [13:49] |
| lphuberdeau | so you need to adapt your query for something to happen
ripero: no plans afaik | [13:49] |
| ripero | lphuberdeau: ok, thanks | [13:49] |
| sylvieg | if content page and page name have been indexed separetly - no need for the query to know soemthing | [13:50] |
| ripero | (sorry for the interruption) | [13:50] |
| lphuberdeau | as I said, a normal query will not hit all fields
thus not consider many of them | [13:50] |
| sylvieg | I did not find out slow down when indexing multiple fields
if the fields are not stored in lucene perhaps I can reintroduce this notion? | [13:52] |
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| lphuberdeau | hte searching on all fields is slow, not the indexing
http://blog.lphuberdeau.com/wordpress/2010/12/sensible-defaults/ | [14:02] |
| sylvieg | but the boost on a title improves a lot a search | [14:03] |
| lphuberdeau | going from searching all fields to searching content in an aggregating, I went from timeout after 60 seconds to subsecond results | [14:04] |
| sylvieg | on my 5000 files Indexing and search was acceptable ... | [14:04] |
| lphuberdeau | do you have the amount of fields indexed in the unified search? | [14:05] |
| sylvieg | perhaps 1/4 slower that yours only | [14:05] |
| lphuberdeau | you can search in title as well if you want to, but you need to build your search query accordingly to specify you really want that field handled independentlyl
then your weighting will be considered | [14:06] |
| sylvieg | I do not want the search independently. I want to have a document with A as title returns before a document with A as the data | [14:10] |
| lphuberdeau | (query in contents) or (query in title), single search query that will affect your weighting
effectively, it does not affect results, but when it goes to the ranking phase, it will give additional weight to words in title if you ask it to Search_Query is where the expressions get built from | [14:11] |
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| meh... trackerfilter plugin really needs a lot of work I think
not sure I understand all it does | [14:28] | |
| jonnyb | don't expect anyone does lphuberdeau | [14:34] |
| lphuberdeau | text filters seem to work
however date filtering fails but marc mentioned that might have failed before | [14:34] |
| jonnyb | yes, i never got dates to work properly in trackers | [14:37] |
| lphuberdeau | ah, that's one
got a quick way to check drop lists? if those work, I would leave it as-is for now | [14:38] |
| jonnyb | think i have a trackerfilter test page on my trunk here... | [14:39] |
| lphuberdeau | made some changes yesterday, but text searching still worked afterwards | [14:40] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb svn up's | [14:42] |
| lphuberdeau | sylvieg: if you want to, I can handle the term boosting and query building, it was on my list anyway
and it does not require too much work | [14:43] |
| sylvieg | do you plan to do as 2 queries title:A and A | [14:49] |
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| lphuberdeau | the index will not be modified
so yes (title:A or A) actually title:A being a natural subset of A, this does not affect the filtering | [14:57] |
| jonnyb | lphuberdeau: the trackerfilter dropdowns still work for me on r33574 | [14:58] |
| lphuberdeau | jonnyb: awesome, if you look at the code, you might understand why I am surprised | [14:59] |
| jonnyb | hoping to get back to trackers soon - tomorrow probably/hopefully | [14:59] |
| lphuberdeau | well, I might be done until there are bug reports
I cleaned out the leftovers and transitional stuff yesterday | [15:01] |
| jonnyb | yes, saw that (filenames only)
probably worth doing a mail to devels to ask for feedback | [15:02] |
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| majuk_ | Hey fellas. I can't seem to figure out how to go about installing Pretty Tracker. Little help? | [15:10] |
| ricks99 | http://doc.tiki.org/pretty+tracker
whats the issue? might also be helpful: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Creating+Pretty+Trackers | [15:11] |
| majuk_ | I don't even know where to begin.
That doc page seems to cover what it can do, not how to get it on my deployment of TikiWiki Or maybe I'm thoroughly missing somehting | [15:13] |
| ricks99 | do u have a tracker? | [15:15] |
| majuk_ | Yes. | [15:15] |
| ricks99 | this primer may help http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Creating+Pretty+Trackers | [15:16] |
| majuk_ | Ah, so it's just extra parameters for [trackerlist] then?
Ok, I'm kinda getting it. I so very much hate programming. | [15:18] |
| ricks99 | yest, that's one example with trackerlist | [15:19] |
| majuk_ | ricks99, Thanks for your help. | [15:20] |
| ricks99 | you're welcome | [15:20] |
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| chealer | polom | [15:47] |
| Trebly | <marclaporte>I send you a mail with ref for login on my share for SQL of fr site | [15:48] |
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| Trebly | <jonnyb> I don't find where the attributes of the module "menu" can be set ?
(I had for test sometime ago add the icons option, I don't find how to change the aspect of the whole menu) | [16:30] |
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| jonnyb | Trebly: on tiki-admin_menus.php?
or tiki-admin.php?page=general&cookietab=3 maybe? | [16:32] |
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| Raevn | Hello All: Looking for pointersto the right resources. Two problems (hopefuly not related).
1. Simple Scripts will not upgrade me. wiki thinks it's V6.1. Script says V5.1, no can do. I'll do what I can to manually upgrade but I don't have root on the shared server. (Bluehost) 2. Site default login page identifies as a 32-digit hex number (e.g., "06bfd54091f945963455a93a76ff4240") which creates a new page with that GUID value. Thanks in advance. ~Raevn Hello All: Looking for pointers to the right resources. Two problems (hopefuly not related). | [17:12] |
| lphuberdeau | did you update manually at some point?
I think this would be a question for the simplescripts support otherwise | [17:16] |
| Raevn | No. Upgraded V5.1 to V6.1 in one jump back in Jan | [17:16] |
| lphuberdeau | I don't know how they keep track of the updates | [17:17] |
| Raevn | DID, however add the really cool WYSIWYG editor from V6.x so things might be mixed up | [17:17] |
| lphuberdeau | ah, right | [17:18] |
| jonnyb | Raevn: the long hex pagename is a bug (adding to list) | [17:18] |
| Raevn | Nor do I and it's SimpleScripts that's likely the problem- not something I can expect help for. | [17:18] |
| lphuberdeau | you should be able to perform the upgrade manually
you don't need very high privileges to get tiki to run | [17:18] |
| Raevn | Thanks JonnyB, that's good to hear. | [17:19] |
| jonnyb | that list is getting a bit long now... :P | [17:19] |
| Raevn | Thanks LPHuberdeaux, I'll break out my*nix training wheels and go for it. I suppose it means I'm manual upgrades forever after :P | [17:20] |
| lphuberdeau | essentially, it's just about extracting the incremental update files in the tiki directory and running the installer for any database patch | [17:22] |
| Raevn | So, I go get the 6.2 version. Drop it all into the tiki folder let it replace as needed and then go run the installer again. OK, I'll be back when I lose track of the installer URL: Thanks.
...backup, sprinkle, stir vigorously, bake for one installation cycle and voila! | [17:25] |
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| Trebly | <jonnyb< I don't know who take care of this : the access authorization.
I wish to add the authtype basic (mini) to access to various url on my demo site. I made it but in my dev computer the question for access is never asked, but for the others it is always refused : what is the use in the htaccess of # Apache does not pass Authorization header to CGI scripts # Rewrite rules for passing authorisation in CGI or FGI mode RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) RewriteRule ^(.*) - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%1] not clear for me | [17:59] |
| jonnyb | sorry Trebly - i usually have to google for it | [18:04] |
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| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: queries like "PHP Framework"^4 else are not handle properly as weel as (PHP Framework)^4 xxxx | [19:35] |
| lphuberdeau | that's lucene syntax, tiki does not accept those as input | [19:44] |
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| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: another problem to cumulate everything in contents is that the highlight displays this cumul | [20:05] |
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| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r33576 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix svn properties | [20:35] |
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| RobertPlummer | polom all
Is it possible to export tracker as yaml? | [20:36] |
| sylvieg | to import yes with the profile - to export .. not sure
lphuberdeau: do you think that for Marc remarks about the OR/AND the best is to do a checkbox where the content is put in an and query beause behavior that moves from AND to OR silently is not very well understood | [20:44] |
| RobertPlummer | anyone else on exporting as a profile or yaml? | [20:52] |
| sylvieg | it will be very easy to export yaml with the old export feature
as it si a tpl but now ... it is hard coded | [20:53] |
| RobertPlummer | where is it? | [20:53] |
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| sylvieg | one is in tiki-export_tracker.php
the new one is in .. jonnyb? | [20:55] |
| RobertPlummer | that is all zip and other, none = yaml. | [20:56] |
| sylvieg | btw lphuberdeau: do we have a method for exporting a filed?
field and a method for input filter | [20:57] |
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| sylvieg | it is a tpl - cahnge the tpl and it will be yaml
but it is very slow | [20:57] |
| RobertPlummer | Which tpl
? line 42 of tiki-admin_trackers.php looks to be what I want. | [20:58] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r33578 10/trunk/styles/tikinewt.css: Remove duplicate class definition | [20:59] |
| RobertPlummer | success in trunk!
tiki-admin_trackers.php?trackerId=7&exportTrackerProfile=y woohooo! | [21:02] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg does not follow all the commit | [21:04] |
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| lphuberdeau | about and/or, I think it's very context dependent, you can always specify explicitly and or or, but I think having or by default makes sense as the result ranking is going to keep the best ones on top anyway | [21:57] |
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| jonnyb | molop | [22:05] |
| rodrigo_sampaio | lphuberdeau: what is the advantage of using the new TikiLib::lib() method? avoid calling global and require_once once everywhere or there is something else? | [22:18] |
| lphuberdeau | that's pretty much it
however, there is a side benefit that after a while, we might be able to grep for global and see the globals that need killing | [22:19] |
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| rodrigo_sampaio | lphuberdeau: ok, thanks | [22:22] |
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| luciash | pollyp | [22:32] |
| jonnyb | hi rodrigo_sampaio - you get home ok?
(i'm guessing) | [22:33] |
| luciash | nope, it's a ghost
:) | [22:34] |
| jonnyb | the downside of the TikiLib::lib thing is Aptana has no idea what's in there, so no code completion etc :(
:) | [22:34] |
| luciash | thought u switched 2 net beans | [22:35] |
| jonnyb | hey, he might still be in the airport (they have free wifi)
same | [22:35] |
| luciash | ah
:) or :( | [22:35] |
| jonnyb | i switched back to aptana during the 'fest cos 'beans was locking up for 10 seconds each time i typed something (into trackrlib)
:D | [22:36] |
| luciash | kewl | [22:36] |
| jonnyb | but now i'm back on the beans as i haven;t found time to re-jig all my local sites (hot key confusion) | [22:37] |
| luciash | RobertPlummer: nice, i think i will find use for that JSON export
RobertPlummer: or YAML | [22:38] |
| RobertPlummer | Yea, the yaml thing is awesome! | [22:39] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33579 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-cart.php: [ADD] Ability to use gift certs in cart module | [22:39] |
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| sylvieg | lphuberdeau: I agree with you with the or /and - it is whu I think it could be a checkbox .. to make everubody happy
.. without the typo... sylvieg hopes chealer's keyboard will solve my bad typo ;=) | [22:47] |
| lphuberdeau | I'd rather wait to see them unhappy, that feature was requested only because the previous ranking was horrible
(was sort by 1 actually) | [22:48] |
| jonnyb | we all hope that sylvieg :) | [22:49] |
| sylvieg | I think it is a rela need to have a and and have a nice lucene search
I think people are crazy because lucene ranking will be enough but they want to know... | [22:49] |
| lphuberdeau | let them see it first | [22:51] |
| sylvieg | the bad behavior in tiki .. 6.. was to automatically do an or when and was not working | [22:51] |
| lphuberdeau | I don't think adding yet an other option speculating on past failures is a good thing | [22:51] |
| sylvieg | I think they need more that first | [22:51] |
| jonnyb | here's my little boston vid: http://tv.tiki.org/A+note+for+Marc+from+boston | [22:52] |
| sylvieg | sylvieg does not think lucene search is so ggod | [22:52] |
| lphuberdeau | it's not the best, but it's one we can get to work everywhere | [22:53] |
| sylvieg | jonnyb +100
at least I can visit the house | [22:53] |
| jonnyb | :) | [22:54] |
| sylvieg | ohoh you clean the 2- floor
a hudge house | [22:54] |
| jonnyb | it was the TikiPalace! | [22:56] |
| sylvieg | :-)
ohoh will we see jonny naked? It was a nice house.. | [22:56] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb makes no comment | [22:58] |
| sylvieg | we need to investigate brien's renting in portugal
brian | [22:58] |
| jonnyb | indeed - tikifests 2012 beckon | [22:59] |
| sylvieg | the problem is .. where .. My cousin has a couple of renting houses - we can have for a very lower rate - but it is in Normandy not close to an airport | [23:04] |
| jonnyb | is near to eurostar though, no?
& tvg | [23:05] |
| sylvieg | not really
buit I am sure he will give us the place - if we pay the cleaning suppose we nee a bus | [23:06] |
| jonnyb | Le Touquet has an aerodrome - we could all go in our private jets! :) | [23:07] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33580 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/js/parsetikisyntax.js: [FIX] Ignour spaces between plugin attributes in Wiki syntax. | [23:10] |
| sylvieg | we need to find out lodging sponsors .. | [23:10] |
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| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r33581 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/js/parsetikisyntax.js: [FIX] More attribute separation detection fixes | [23:35] |
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| jonnyb | yay, go RobertPlummer, go! :) | [23:42] |
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