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   chibaguy: polom
   chealer: hi chibaguy
   chibaguy: hi chealer
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   LordVan: hi
   <br> anyone here who knows about tiki6 on postgres?
   <br> luciash, ping?
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   chibaguy: <u>LordVan</u>: postgres is no longer supported. Several times attempts were made to get somebody with postgres skills to fix bugs and maintain it, but nobody volunteered.
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   chibaguy: Somebody worked on it for a while, but apparently didn't have time to continue.
   <br> The postres community was approached, but no luck there either.
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   CIA-82: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r33774 10/branches/7.x/styles/jqui.css: [FIX] jqui: Remove huge line-height in logo module
   lphuberdeau: jonnybradley, I will have some time today if you want to go through the list of tracker issues
   <br> ah, confusion, on svn but not irc!
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   fabricius: polom
   <br> is s.b. working on doc.tiki.org right now =&gt; upgrading or so?
   <br> site is down - no connected to the database
   <br> not
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   fabricius: ah back running
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   LordVan: chibaguy, i know i was just hopeful cuz i read the database independence page on dev.tiki.org .. that sounded bit more optimistic
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   lphuberdeau: database independence was dropped a few versions ago
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   lphuberdeau: actually, it was dropped a really long time ago, but people finally admitted it a few versions ago
   LordVan: yeah it sucks though i prefer postgresql to mysql
   <br> what is the main issue anway? single vs double quotes ?
   <br> BLOBs?
   lphuberdeau: SQL incompatibilities, mixed performance issues, feature set
   LordVan: what was the 'split' of tiki (a couple of versions back) that has like core modules and plugins seperate called again?
   <br> i think they used postgres as main db
   lphuberdeau: you mean twiki?
   LordVan: hmm don't remember .. hmm
   <br> *thinks*
   <br> it was more modular - as opposite to one package for all with tiki
   <br> in my case i do like modular, but for low maintainance the one package for everything is very appealing ;)
   <br> since i'm just talking about a couple of personal / club pages where i don'T get paid anything ;)
   <br> one of the reasons why i chose tiki over that other one
   <br> back then -- my site is still running tiki 4.1 i think on postgres
   <br> but now that i guess - unless i do it myself, which i don't have the time for - tiki on postgresql is no option ..
   <br> is there a way to take data from a postgresql tiki (4.1) install and move it to mysql?
   lphuberdeau: really surprised you had it working on 4.1
   LordVan: :D
   <br> startrek.or.at ;)
   <br> well anyway nm
   <br> i guess i'll upgrade and move to mysql OR amybe play with plone a bit
   <br> ls
   <br> ops ^^
   <br> and anyway the 'split' that i meant was twiki yes thanks ;)
   lphuberdeau: we're glad they forked off, foswiki is much better off now and there is less name confusion
   LordVan: foswiki?
   lphuberdeau: the forked twiki with all of the community now
   LordVan: bleh more confusion (cuz more different ones) i never heard of foswiki before
   <br> but one thing i notices was that in #twiki hardly anyone answered -&gt; another point for tikiwiki back then
   <br> but yeah twiki page seems .. rather commercial
   <br> things like don't ask the devs install,.. questions it does not come with support .. hmmm
   -: LordVan don't like that
   lphuberdeau: twiki is a one man show now or pretty much
   LordVan: O.o .. gotta be one very busy man
   chibaguy: LordVan, a Tiki 'fork' was Bitweaver, if that's the one you mean.
   lphuberdeau: oh bitweaver, forgot about that one
   LordVan: chibaguy, yeah that was the other one that i had a look at back then
   <br> i do quite like my tiki (4.1) install
   <br> btw drupal -&gt; tiki is not really 'possible with reasonable effort is it?'
   chibaguy: There's no import script.
   lphuberdeau: there is no automated migration, and it really depends on what drupal plugins you use anyway
   LordVan: k cuz i'm not too happy with my drupal atm
   <br> upgrading with all those plugins as seperate downloads is a pain
   <br> gotta relogg ;) brb
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   chibaguy: g'night all.
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   LordVan: somehow bitweaver don't seem  too active either..
   -: LordVan doesn't get the reasons for all the forks anymore..
   LordVan: what was the reason for bitweaver to fork?
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   LordVan: gonna check out wikimatrix ;) out of curiousity at least
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   chealer: polom
   <br> <u>LordVan</u>: see http://www.bitweaver.org/wiki/bitweaver+and+TikiWiki
   <br> <u>LordVan</u>: DB abstraction had many issues left, but the one that standed out was indeed BLOBs, see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/14080
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   chealer: <u>LordVan</u>: see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/14109/match=bytea for an overview
   LordVan: thanks
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