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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: WYSIWYG editor for forum posts - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41045 New Forum Posts: Trouble viewing a YouTube video in a Trackerlist plugin on a Wiki page - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41041 New Forum Posts: PHP errors fsockopen - https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41038	[03:38]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: How to make the top banner not take up so much real estate? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=14&comments_parentId=41048	[05:09]
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LordVan	morning. i got a problem with a site, where the site logo is not shown to anon. any ideas?	[05:42]
chealer	LordVan: could you show the site?	[05:49]
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LordVan	odd but it works if u r registered.. any clue as to why that wouldn be?	[06:06]
chealer	LordVan: could you give an account?	[06:09]
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LordVan	sure just register	[06:10]
Bernard	morning good people !	[06:10]
LordVan	it is not linked publically -> open registration (for now) morning and btw this orange.jpg really isn't there ;) but thats a theme problem, since i just used darkshine. brb - wlan ap swapping for coffee ;)	[06:11]
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chealer	LordVan: what is the site logo?	[06:19]
LordVan	some img outside the tiki folder. don't u see it? afaik ../pics/ should e browseable	[06:20]
chealer	LordVan: I don't see that on the homepage, registered or not	[06:22]
LordVan	hmm odd i see it.. and the site owner too brb -done w coffee ;)	[06:24]
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LordVan	bk chealer, it is in ../pics/Martin_Indien.png (from tiki root)	[06:37]
chealer	LordVan: yes, I don't see it on the homepage	[06:39]
LordVan	weird. any clue why?	[06:39]
chealer	LordVan: no. the account I tried with is chealer	[06:40]
LordVan	yeah i can see it. hmm afaik the siteowner can see it but i duno what permission would cause him to see it and rest not.. if u want to ki can add u to site owner for a few hmm could it have to do with group homepage stuff not tickdd in general settings navigation tab?	[06:40]
chealer	LordVan: I don't see how	[06:43]
LordVan	very odd imho..	[06:44]
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LordVan	u know what i just noticed? the div with id sitelogo is not present when anonymous v odd.. bleh he's not here anymore.. ;) anyway.. back in a bit	[06:46]
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LordVan	chealer, i noticed, that as anonymous user the sitelogo div isn't there at all..	[07:24]
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luciash	polom	[07:52]
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LordVan	hi	[07:56]
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luciash	hi LordVan	[08:13]
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LordVan	bleh .. i still duno why anon users don'T get my sitelogo (<div id="sitelogo" .. is not present at all) or do you happen to know about those things luciash? or anyone for that matter	[08:20]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Requête SQL et affichage - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=41049	[09:15]
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luciash	LordVan: hmm, any special custom code in L&F admin panel ?	[09:32]
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coaboa	hi all	[10:48]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[10:56]
luciash	pooh-lom	[11:02]
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LordVan	luciash, no custom code. fresh install with very little content so far	[11:29]
luciash	LordVan: i think it is because of the theme LordVan: this theme has custom tiki.tpl and/or header.tpl files in templates/styles/themename/ LordVan: and it is possible it doesn't include the sitelogo div at all cases or on purpose	[11:31]
LordVan	hmm luciash, but isn't it an odd - or very special - case where you don't want anonymous to see your site logo?	[11:34]
luciash	LordVan: you can track the tpl file exactly in the source of the page if you enable TPL logging	[11:34]
LordVan	do i enable that in the Look&Feel / Theme settings? - also does it display it on the page or in some log?	[11:35]
luciash	it does display only as HTML comment in the generated page source ctrl + U in FF enable it on the Features admin panel Programmer tab Logging and Reporting the last checkbox there	[11:36]
LordVan	k says i gotta clear template cache .. where do i do that - or just use the clear all caches button at the top right?	[11:38]
luciash	y	[11:41]
LordVan	k i now got <!-- TPL: tiki-ajax_header.tpl --> like comments .. what should i look for? (as admin or anon?)	[11:42]
luciash	styles/darkshine/tiki-site_header.tpl styles/darkshine/tiki-top_bar.tpl check if it contains the sitelogo code and the conditions if any (like if something do something code ...)	[11:43]
LordVan	i don'T see any conditions here, but here's part of the site code - as admin: http://pastebin.com/ihLTFeJc	[11:46]
luciash	ok, i see the sitelogo div is in styles/darkshine/tiki-site_header_options.tpl check that one u can paste that file so i can see the conditions in there	[11:48]
LordVan	k will do in a min that file is not there in styles/darkshie shine ah nm they r in templates/styles ;) btw i did not make any changes to those files so they r same as 6.2 release but anyway: http://lordvan.com/tiki-site_header_options.tpl	[11:57]
luciash	ok, looking you have your logo set to left ? or center ? LordVan: ^ LordVan: i guess all you have to do is to check the checkbox to publish the Custom Site Header	[12:14]
LordVan	i didn'T change default settings ;) i thought custom site header was just this admin button? ha that's it . cool thanks but wouldn'T it be worth considering changing this somehow in the theme that the next person won'T have the same problem?	[12:20]
luciash	i don't blame you ;) the logic just says that to display the logo you need to have the custom site header code published or be an admin in the tpl	[12:22]
LordVan	now you can see my - very creative- site logo luciash, somehow the if conditions don'T make sense to me -- for a default at least :D LordVan disables tpl comment stuff again before he forgets	[12:22]
luciash	LordVan: what you can try is to rename this theme specific tiki-site_header_options.tpl to ...tpl.bak and see if it is working already with the default one (it will use the default one if you rename/remove that specific file) templates/styles/darkshine/tiki-site_header_options.tpl.bak if it doesn't work, just rename back and live with that published checkbox ;)	[12:26]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3847 - - Improve the registration sequence - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3847	[13:27]
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LordVan	luciash, well the published checkbox don'T really bother me i just find it odd	[14:27]
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chibaguy	polom LordVan, that Darkshine logo problem is a bug apparently. I'll fix it for the next release. (Although in Tiki 7 there's no more theme site header .tpl files, so the problem goes away then.) Still, in Tiki 6 it should be fixed. chibaguy really likes doing themes for Tiki 7 more than for Tiki 6.	[14:31]
luciash	hi chibaguy	[14:38]
chibaguy	hi luciash	[14:38]
luciash	ground shaking hard again ?	[14:38]
chibaguy	yes, today's been pretty shaky. http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/ Try clicking the "Previous information" button several times.	[14:39]
luciash	about the theme, it's a little bug but not trivial to solve (if you want the quickadmin for admin you need it enabled but it doesn't have to be necessarily published if you have something else in it, so it was logical, that by default it is not visible / published to non-admins)	[14:41]
chibaguy	oh, I see. I thought it would be simpler than that.	[14:42]
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chibaguy	You know, I think creating themes, etc., will be easier in Tiki 7, due to the simpler site header area (modules instead) but site admins will have more trouble, compared to using the Look and Feel config page.	[14:48]
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chibaguy	Or maybe I'm just not used to the new method yet.	[14:48]
codyg	polom all	[14:49]
chibaguy	hi codyg	[14:49]
codyg	hope its a happy monday! I have a few questions today. Can I send a newsletter to a tracker item that has an email field? in otherwords, can I do a query on a tracker and have a Newsletter sent to the email? Or, for the newsletter, do i need to find a comma deliminated list from somewhere other than a tracker?	[14:50]
chibaguy	Hmm, two areas of Tiki I know least are ... newsletters and trackers. ;-) Hopefully someone else can tell you.	[14:56]
codyg	we would like to keep a tracker of our society's friends and contacts, who not all have user accounts, and getting that comma deliminated from .doc list is problematic. I posted in forums last wednesday, thought i would pop in here today. what part of tiki do you know chibaguy? themes??? ;)	[14:56]
chibaguy	yep	[14:57]
codyg	cool i'm so new to tiki that the themes thing is still a tad overwhelming	[14:57]
chibaguy	what about them?	[14:58]
LordVan	hmm how long is it gonna be for first 7.x release? ;)	[14:58]
codyg	yea, new release, new theme procedures ?? particularly because of the html5 and css3 thing. how come every theme has the same icons?	[14:58]
chibaguy	LordVan: maybe April 30 well, the same icons to keep things easy, probably. A lot of icons can be overridden per theme but there aren't a lot of examples of that.	[14:59]
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chibaguy	Strasa uses its own module open\|close icons, one example.	[15:02]
codyg	i've always wanted an "icon" module, a place to crud system icons. I think, with tracker, I might be able to create my own.	[15:03]
chibaguy	you want to replace most/all of the icons?	[15:03]
codyg	have trackers for forum icons, shoutbox icons, theme icons..	[15:03]
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codyg	not replace, just manage turn them off and on install and delete	[15:04]
chibaguy	well, an easy method now is to just put 16px png files in themename/pics/icons and they'll be used for anything that has an {icon} in a smarty template. just name them the same as the default they replace.	[15:04]
codyg	i'm doing that now	[15:05]
chibaguy	ah	[15:05]
codyg	and renaming files is easy, probably ;) sometimes, with easy, function is limited	[15:05]
chibaguy	I recall there was some talk about an interface for custom icons, maybe a few years ago, but nothing came of it, directly anyway.	[15:06]
codyg	yes, an interface I've been talking about it for a decade. But mostly with myself. lol	[15:06]
chibaguy	another nice thing, kinda related, would be to use sprites instead of the gazillion little image files, but I'm not sure how to combine that with customizability. seems like doing one makes the other harder.	[15:08]
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chibaguy	unless you chose icon sets.	[15:09]
codyg	have, in production, old shoutbox module with over 670 kb of little image files which has it's own manager. those users love that stuff lots of season themes just in the shoutbox	[15:10]
chibaguy	are these part of the "chrome" or are they smileys or what?	[15:11]
codyg	all smilieys of course that old shoutbox is about a decade old too.	[15:12]
chibaguy	the mind boggles	[15:13]
codyg	it totally does that site was pre facebook, but is still active. not so much though	[15:14]
chibaguy	pre-facebook. I remember those days.... well, time to sleep here. bbl.	[15:15]
codyg	those were the real fun days. ;) remember pcboard and wildcat? the day is just beginning here	[15:16]
chibaguy	here too, if past midnight counts.	[15:16]
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codyg	but it is a beautiful day and i should go for a walk it's 8am here where are you?	[15:16]
chibaguy	I didn't get into bbs's much, just usenet really, and then mailing lists. chiba, japan	[15:17]
codyg	ahhh, well very nice to pollom with you chibaguy. sweet dreams.	[15:18]
chibaguy	thanks, codyg. catch you later.	[15:18]
codyg	is a lovely spring morning in the neighbourhood, so i'm going for a walk with the dog. pollom ya later.	[15:20]
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LordVan	chibaguy, thx ;) anyway gtg .. cyas	[15:22]
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chealer	polom is it possible to suspend/disable a user?	[16:42]
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Bernard	Gosh… can someone explain what does mean "Group subscription also subscribes included groups" in newsletter ? ;)	[18:54]
sylvieg	for instance if you have teachers ans students if you send to students you will also send to teachers because teachers includes students	[18:58]
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Bernard	yeahhhhhh…. :) it will take me the night to find the proper translation in hebrew !!!! I have to look in french may be. :)	[19:06]
	Done, thanks Sylvie	[19:13]
sylvieg	has somebody a generic way to display a banner that is a swf on a computer - but a jpeg on a iphone (as iphone has no flash interpretation)?	[19:14]
Bernard	it is a little old but this webste as good leads or link; http://www.bigresource.com/FLASH-Flash-Detection-replacing-with-jpeg-or-gif-Fuv9sDy3x5.html	[19:17]
sylvieg	thx Bernard	[19:22]
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Bernard	ok i found what i used once; <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="motormovie.swf" width="320" height="240"> <param name="movie" value="motormovieswf"> <img src……. > </object> ca devrait toujours marcher	[19:30]
sylvieg	yes seems that img in the block works.. ... suppose I need to entries in a banner - a swf entry and an alternative and replace the 'Flash player non available' by the alternative	[19:31]
Bernard	again this was simple for a few year ago (plain html) may be there more sophisticated now : google -> replacing flash with jpg for non flash user	[19:43]
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Bernard	Sylvie : i recall you use the newsletter feature. On a 6.2 (download package) and 6.2 svn i try to send a test newsletter and at the validation the page stay stuck on "Sending Newsletter …" however i can send or receive emails from the rest of the tw. Trying on tw7.	[20:17]
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luciash	another tikified piece of web → http://ntdtv.cz	[21:10]
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Bernard	Luciash : Congrat ! Disabled Korean musicians inspire Israel ? :)	[21:24]
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fabricius	hello polom	[21:42]
Bernard	Hi Fabricus	[21:43]
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fabricius	started to try Tiki get running on USB - under lin Linux	[21:45]
Bernard	Mmm sound interesting ! I really have a use for this but to much to do right now. Feedback us :)	[21:46]
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fabricius	I will do definitely ... right now I am in some trouble with it, but I am sure, I will get there first step is to get it running under xampp on my ubuntu pc - then the same with the usb key didn get running xampp on the usb key, but runs on the machine itself	[21:56]
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sylvieg	I am looking for a module params page on doc.tiki.org - seems lindon rewrote all this part this we has somebody a backup of doc.. from last week	[22:25]
fabricius	nope	[22:32]
lphuberdeau	not in page history?	[22:34]
fabricius	sylvieg: you are not looking for this: http://doc.tiki.org/Module+Settings+Parameters&structure=Documentation+TOC ??	[22:35]
sylvieg	looking for a page that explain what nopage, page params are doing for a module the page is gone :-( it is true that the interface now deals with the param name .. but the page has a lot more of information	[22:36]
fabricius	but on the page above there is a table (fancy?) with tabs, that explains such stuff #Standard_Parameter_List	[22:38]
sylvieg	yes a PArameters... :-( sp no more docs for older versions :-( aha find the nopage	[22:38]
fabricius	uh thats bad	[22:40]
sylvieg	- strange that the search does not find it	[22:40]
fabricius	ahfound it anyway?	[22:40]
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