#tikiwiki 2011-05-11,Wed

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dcedilotte	Polom!	[00:04]
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noodlepringle	hey people Is anyone about at the moment? I just had a question about external authentication with tiki wiki 6.3 It seems that PAM auth is broken (at least with PHP5 included with Debian Etch) And tiki no longer supports IMAP authentication - I was wondering if there were any other methods which could tie into our PAM based auth system currently?	[01:18]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Danish translation - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=13&comments_parentId=41206	[02:41]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r34375 10/branches/7.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Text.php: [FIX] Prevent extra n from appearing at then of pretty tracker var output tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r34376 10/branches/7.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Text.php: [FIX] Redo (corrected) Prevent extra n from appearing at then of pretty tracker var output	[03:04]
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coaboa	good morning all	[08:20]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: How to include another project or website under tikiwiki? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41208 New Forum Posts: How to include another project or website under tikiwiki? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41207	[09:21]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Different home page for non registered - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41209	[09:51]
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jonnyb	polom (finally)	[12:14]
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jonnyb	I	[13:03]
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CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34377 10/branches/7.x/styles/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Twist theme updated for Tiki 7.	[13:50]
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stix	I am having some problems sending out a newsletter. And all I get is something about that it failed and "array". Can I see a php-error-log? Or enable showing of php-errors maybe	[14:33]
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stix	can I set an smtp-server somewhere?	[14:42]
ricks99	@stix: turn on error reporting in admin: general see docs for details	[14:46]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34378 10/branches/7.x/styles/twist.css: [NEW] Twist theme updated for Tiki 7.	[14:56]
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luciash	polom-before-evening	[15:27]
jonnyb	polom-is-it-that-time-already!	[15:27]
luciash	:) terrible, got up about 2pm today	[15:27]
jonnyb	shocking! :) i was thinking 9:30 was a bit lazy (lots to do)	[15:28]
luciash	not that shocking when we consider i was getting to bed around 5am ;)	[15:32]
jonnyb	true	[15:34]
chealer	polom chealer finalizes early wakeup	[15:46]
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RavenC	polom all	[16:06]
	Question: TW6.3 - is it possible to have a menu item, which references an outside website, to open in a new tab or window? If so, what would be the syntax used, and would that be in the URL: of the menu option	[16:11]
sylvieg	RavenC: try an url like http;//mydomain targ="xxxx and do not forget to allow html in menu in admin->general s/targ/target	[16:22]
RavenC	http://mydomain.com target="new" ?	[16:22]
sylvieg	without the ending "	[16:23]
RavenC	ok, thanks for the help Sylvieg!	[16:23]
sylvieg	.. in fact it puts the url without escaping - so you can play around it had worked... no sure it is still working	[16:23]
RavenC	it tried putting the whole thing as a url...	[16:24]
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Nils^	hello. Can I use a form to create forum threads? I want a super-fast way for users (even anonymous) to wish for features in my software on the frontpage. But I want to gather and discuss them in a forum.	[16:28]
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sylvieg	RavenC: seems t work for me in tiki7 - do not forgot to check the 2 prefs	[16:43]
luciash	RavenC: it's documented somewhere Nils^: could be, just inspect the form normally used to create forum threads and copy paste to your own form	[16:46]
RavenC	menus_item_names_raw under admin/general/nav ?	[16:48]
luciash	Nils^: you can also allow them to create wiki pages and enable "Discuss pages in forums" feature RavenC: yep	[16:49]
RavenC	it is set.... so, i have https://mydomain.net/ target="new and when clicked the browser url shows https://mydomain.net/ target=	[16:52]
luciash	RavenC: you need this → https://mydomain.net/" target="new RavenC: or rather _new	[16:56]
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RavenC	double quote at the end of the .net/ ?	[16:57]
luciash	yes	[16:57]
RavenC	anything before the url	[16:57]
luciash	nope	[16:57]
RavenC	my irc shows a box.. :) ok perfect Thanks Sylvieg AND luciash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	[16:57]
luciash	Tiki is perfect tool :-p	[16:58]
RavenC	agreed, RavenC is a less than perfect tool....	[16:59]
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RavenC	I find I get lost most easily on syntax... seemingly everywhere	[16:59]
luciash	it's only the learning curve Tiki is not perfectly user friendly but if you know how, it is perfect tool ;) RavenC: this one was a trick, so don't worry you didn't know	[16:59]
RavenC	hehehe. That makes me feel a little better. But I certainly would be lost without all of you!	[17:01]
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dcedilotte	Polom!	[18:20]
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dcedilotte	Can anybody tell me how the hash is calculated for the filegals? Does it take any info from the server into account? (ie: if we transfer the site to our customer, shouldn't he be able to access the images in the filegal without any issues?)	[18:33]
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Nils^	hm, strange. I created a tracker with one textfield and anonymous users don't see the text entry field. I enabled all permissions except "can admin tracker" for anoymous users. Only if I switch on "can admin" the textfield appears. 5.3 tikiwik 6.3 I mean	[19:05]
CIA-76	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34379 10/branches/7.x/lib/wiki/editlib.php: [FIX] editlib: Missing global and parameter	[19:08]
jonnyb	Nils^: have you tried adding more fields? (could be a bug) dcedilotte: i think it should be fine but you probably worked that out by now ;) off out now, more tomorrow	[19:11]
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Nils^	lol... I switched on "Editable only by admins". I thought this was editing after an item was written	[19:15]
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dcedilotte	jonnyb: Well, I'm still not sure about the salt being specific to a server. I still can't get the data out of the DB, yet, there is data for the fileId that is not displaying on my customer's server. That site was in perfect working condition when we took the trim backup.	[19:29]
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changi	polom back from Linux Solution in paris	[19:39]
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chealer	hi changi	[19:47]
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changi	chealer: chealer: hi chealer: doc is now on Tiki 7.x but a lot of customisation to do all horiz menu disappear	[19:56]
chealer	changi: cool! thanks changi: I seem to see horizontal menus. like the one on the black bar?	[19:57]
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changi	both are back now	[20:00]
chealer	changi: OK, what did you need to do?	[20:00]
changi	Admin modules -> add menu + param the module like marc had to do on themes another problem is on the homepage smarty tag are not translate to html like {DIV(float="right" chealer: an idea ?	[20:00]
chealer	changi: definitely. I don't know, I remember there were similar issues on themes too bad jonnyb is gone ooh, themes.tiki.org is not looking good for now huh, GET minified_65dbe2871d0c686a025acf3dbc35091f.css 404 Not Found cdn.doc.tiki.org that's on themes	[20:03]
changi	clear cache ?	[20:06]
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chealer	themes is failing to get minified CSS and JS from cdn.doc.tiki.org changi: no idea why it would help, but it can't be worst at this point...	[20:06]
changi	chealer: misconfiguration i think it should get cdn from themes and not from doc	[20:08]
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Broadgate	Hello? Help! :) I'm trying to run a fiction critique site, using the blogs for stories and comments for critique.	[20:11]
luciash	hi Broadgate	[20:11]
Broadgate	Trouble is, there seems to be some kind of maximum length on blog comments. Is there any way around that? Hi luciash. I'm running 6.2	[20:11]
luciash	Broadgate: try the Comments or Blogs admin panel	[20:13]
Broadgate	Don't see anything there. It says how many I can list on a page, but I don't see a length limit.	[20:14]
luciash	hmmm	[20:16]
Broadgate	I should say that the TEXT is still in the database, but it's only displaying a fraction of it.	[20:17]
chealer	changi: marclaporte had changed cdn 14 minutes ago	[20:17]
changi	? chealer: change to cdn.doc.tiki.org or to themes ?	[20:17]
chealer	changi: to doc	[20:18]
luciash	Broadgate: ah, it's truncated by smarty template probably then...	[20:19]
changi	chealer: ah	[20:19]
Broadgate	oh damn. It's the Eatlon theme. profile, I mean.	[20:19]
chealer	changi: hum, looks like chibaguy hacked a workaround for the Themes HomePage (version 88)	[20:22]
changi	chealer: is it possible to do it on doc ?	[20:23]
luciash	Broadgate: can we have a look ?	[20:24]
changi	dogfood dogfood i'll send an email to marc maybe he know how to fix it	[20:25]
chealer	changi: CDN or the HomePage fix?	[20:26]
changi	cdn is fixed, i put cdn.themes.tiki.org which is working Homepage, is for marc :)	[20:27]
chealer	changi: yes, I saw, thank you changi: do you have an idea why we have a Plugin execution pending approval in Keywords module?	[20:27]
changi	no, and i was not able to approve it js problem	[20:28]
chealer	ah, http://doc.tiki.org/Keywords	[20:30]
changi	have to go	[20:31]
chealer	changi: broken layout. you think it's a JS problem? do you get an error?	[20:31]
changi	not in chrome i think it a JS problem	[20:31]
chealer	changi: in the sense that the button doesn't work...yes	[20:31]
changi	was having this problem last time a was using jquery with my beautifull tabs	[20:31]
chealer	changi: OK, thank you	[20:31]
changi	s/a/I/	[20:32]
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marclaporte	polom http://doc.tiki.org/Keywords strange	[21:10]
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chealer	HTML is broken on all doc pages	[21:16]
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marclaporte	ouch	[21:31]
chealer	for example http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-admin_links.php	[21:31]
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chealer	OK, the problem seems to be in the right column. I'll try to gently amputate it	[21:40]
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chealer	hiding the Keywords module fixed it	[21:41]
luciash	chealer: viewing as anon it's still broken layout for me on the Keywords page browser Chrome is the module (or is it a plugin) broken in 7 ?	[21:45]
chealer	OK, fixed. odd issue, but problem: {HTML()}<div style="overflow:auto;height:400px">{HTML} got unapproved with upgrade	[21:46]
luciash	wow, what happened to plugin parsing ? → http://doc.tiki.org/Documentation	[21:47]
chealer	luciash: that's what we're trying to fix. luciash: that's a wiki page which is used in a module that I just hidden to debug luciash: something similar happened upgrading themes.tiki.org, on the HomePage	[21:48]
luciash	{HTML()}<div style="overflow:auto;height:400px">{HTML} is clearly not valid HTML well, i see	[21:48]
chealer	Keywords module restored	[21:51]
luciash	but why it is not in {HTML(wiki=y)}...{HTML} as a whole ?	[21:51]
chealer	I [re-]added the plugin approval issue on the Tiki7 page	[21:58]
marclaporte	marclaporte wonders why https://doc.tiki.org/Features is in croatian (was it like that before upgrade?)	[22:00]
chealer	there might be something about plugin arguments on the homepage. must argument values be quoted?	[22:04]
	OK, I count 23 opening DIV-s on the HomePage and only 20 closing DIV-s. now who wants to fix it? :-)	[22:09]
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Broadgate	Hullo there. I got some help a couple of hours ago with an odd problem which seemed to be truncating comment posts after a blog entry. So, as a test, I put the same text into a blog post itself ... and oddly, the same thing happened. I thought it might be a pagination issue, so I applied pagnination, and that worked on the blog entry: the whole text was now readable. Tried to add pages on the comment. Couldn't do it.	[22:14]
luciash	what does the text contain ?	[22:16]
Broadgate	Then I did a 65 paragraph Lorem Ipsum. That worked fine in the blog AND the comment! The text that caused the problem was this: "__. She was a force of nature, [[almost __<- not needed__]. You'd only seen her through the glass of your cell, of course, but even then the air had [[rightly __<- don't see what you mean by 'rightly'__] crackled with electrics."	[22:16]
luciash	might be it contains some characters which are considered as wiki syntax and it causes the trimming for some reason	[22:17]
Broadgate	That looks like what happened. The really odd thing is that it's intermittent.	[22:17]
luciash	the text starts with bold syntax but it doesn't close it later then	[22:18]
Broadgate	The "[[ __<--] " string sometimes threw everything after "__" out.	[22:18]
luciash	__	[22:18]
Broadgate	Ah -- that's actually closing off an earlier piece of bold. "__[[bring subject to start of sentence; continuity - character doesn't have access to papers?]__. She was a force of nature, [[almost __<- not needed__]"	[22:19]
luciash	ah, ok where it trimms ?	[22:20]
Broadgate	The next odd thing is that I tried a mixture of different sentences. And, now, anytime I use "__<" it will throw the text away. Even though sometimes in the previous text, it doesn't.	[22:21]
luciash	ah, i see, it considers it to be a start of HTML tag do you have HTML allowed ? you should use ← instead maybe	[22:21]
Broadgate	I do have it allowed, but that's not the problem, because there are lots of instances in the text where it's quite happy to have <- in it.	[22:22]
luciash	or disable allowance of HTML in wiki syntax areas	[22:22]
Broadgate	Good idea, just in case. Thanks luciash.	[22:23]
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Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #3880 - - Smarty Template indicator: add a note for tiki.tpl and error.tpl after the doctype - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3880	[22:34]
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chealer	meh, Google cache isn't helping much to figure out how /Documentation is supposed to look	[23:47]
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RobertPlummer	polom chealer polom all chealer, any way you know to join 2 trackers together and export as csv?	[23:48]
chealer	hi RobertPlummer RobertPlummer: I really don't know what you mean by joining 2 trackers together. something like foreign keys?	[23:52]
RobertPlummer	like sql join on, but for a field in a tracker	[23:54]
chealer	RobertPlummer: if you're asking how to do that from a user point of view, I would be surprised if there was a way. if you're asking how to implement it, I don't know trackers code	[23:56]
RobertPlummer	No, that was all I needed. chealer, you da man! Does anyone remember that really cool data manipulation system that was mentioned at tikifest NYNY 2010? I think it started with a d....	[23:57]
chealer	RobertPlummer: hehe. I saw an issue with CodeMirror today in the doc.tiki.org homepage. I made some changes so that CodeMirror shows the code properly. the code is still invalid but it now shows OK in CodeMirror. I had to quote many plugin argument values. do you know if that's required? RobertPlummer: Doctrine, I imagine?	[23:59]

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