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[03:43] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34544 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Quick edit module: merge categId parameter in addcategId. addcategId is more flexible
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[09:46] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: switching user settings ... / user tracker - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41294
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[10:13] <jonnyb> po7om
[10:19] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34546 10/branches/7.x/installer/schema/20101230_create_top_modules_tiki.php: [FIX] modules: Set newly created top modules to have no group (were assigned to Anonymous so may be hidden from registered and/or admins)
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[10:37] <SiL3NC3> hi there, just set up a tiki site and got stange result while editing the user settings. when i checked the options for allowing other users to send a message (and more checkboxes), the country setting (choosen country) will be set to default (no selection) and the user account is st to private. after changing back the country settings, the checkboxes are all deactived and no message could be send anymore to this user ... any idea
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[10:38] <jonnyb> SiL3NC3: sounds like bugs - which tiki version, 6.3?
[10:39] <SiL3NC3> right
[10:39] <SiL3NC3> what can i do? edit the mysql tables manually and set this there?
[10:39] <jonnyb> and this is on tiki-admin.php?page=community ?
[10:40] <jonnyb> or in the user prefs page?
[10:40] <SiL3NC3> (tiki-user_preferences.php
[10:41] <jonnyb> hmm, don't recall it being that bad - any javascript errors? or php errors (bottom of the page)
[10:41] <SiL3NC3> PHP (5.2.4-2ubuntu5.15) NOTICE (E_NOTICE): File: tiki-user_preferences.php Line: 146 Type: Undefined index: mailCharset
[10:42] <SiL3NC3> by altering the country back ... (checkboxes gets all deactivated)
[10:43] <SiL3NC3> after saving the checkbox editing ...
[10:43] <SiL3NC3> PHP (5.2.4-2ubuntu5.15) NOTICE (E_NOTICE): File: tiki-user_preferences.php Line: 120 Type: Undefined index: user_information PHP (5.2.4-2ubuntu5.15) NOTICE (E_NOTICE): File: tiki-user_preferences.php Line: 195 Type: Undefined index: country
[10:43] <SiL3NC3> looks like, that some settings missing ...
[10:43] <SiL3NC3> i also tried to edit with <tabs off>
[10:44] <SiL3NC3> same problem
[10:45] <jonnyb> NOTICE's should be fine, shouldn't break anything like this
[10:45] <SiL3NC3> really? are not the complete settings posted ony the changes?
[10:46] <SiL3NC3> only changes?
[10:46] <SiL3NC3> havent checked the scripts so far
[10:47] <jonnyb> everything gets posted back at once, changed and unchanged
[10:52] <SiL3NC3> can i set somewhere up, to get $_REQUEST contents within the error messages?
[10:52] <SiL3NC3> so i can find out, what data is transfered
[10:54] <jonnyb> do you code?
[10:54] <jonnyb> familiar with xdebug etc?
[10:55] <SiL3NC3> very basic
[10:55] <SiL3NC3> did some cms flat-file coding ...
[10:58] <SiL3NC3> but i'm new to xdebug
[11:05] <SiL3NC3> checking the docs ... :)
[11:10] <chealer> jonnyb: no group, eh? waking up, but won't that only show to admins?
[11:10] <luciash> polom after noon
[11:11] <jonnyb> morning chealer - afternoon luciash 
[11:11] <luciash> almost morning for me as well ;)
[11:11] <jonnyb> no, now in modules not specifying any group for a module means it gets shown to all
[11:11] <luciash> heya guys
[11:12] <jonnyb> select Admins if you want it to only show to Admins (seems more logical)
[11:12] <jonnyb> if anyone can help out further with https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki7+Dev+upgrade+notes that would be nice! :)
[11:13] <chealer> jonnyb: oh, OK. and Anonymous may not be OK depending on "Hide Anonymous Only Modules from Registered Users". http://doc.tiki.org/Module+Admin
[11:13] <jonnyb> indeed
[11:14] <jonnyb> hopefully everything should do what it says now
[11:14] <jonnyb> will no doubt cause a little upgrade pain...
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[11:17] <jonnyb> SiL3NC3: i can confirm we have bugs in 6.x/tiki-user_preferences.php, but sorry can't get into it now - maybe chealer can shed some light on it?
[11:17] <SiL3NC3> maybe update to 7.0 beta?
[11:18] <jonnyb> no, seems to be the same - country gets set to "other" when you edit stuff in the other tab
[11:18] <SiL3NC3> oh
[11:19] <jonnyb> in fact editing anything in one tab resets the stuff in the other :(
[11:20] <jonnyb> cos they're two different forms - chealer: can you remember why? I seem to recall we discussed this some time ago (long time ago)
[11:20] <chealer> will need to be further in the wake up sequence to answer that
[11:20] <jonnyb> :)
[11:21] <SiL3NC3> it also results in this problem, if you disable the tabs (for that)
[11:22] <SiL3NC3> very strange
[11:23] <jonnyb> SiL3NC3: definitely a bad bug, needs fixing for 7.0 and then we can do the same fix for 6.x (6.4)
[11:24] <SiL3NC3> cool
[11:24] <SiL3NC3> so first of all, i found my place to be ! :)
[11:24] <SiL3NC3> to get bugs reported ...
[11:24] <jonnyb> yay! welcome
[11:24] <SiL3NC3> we are working on a mature portal for an experimental projekt
[11:24] <SiL3NC3> maaaany user planned and a big structure
[11:25] <jonnyb> i'm amazed no one's noticed this one before
[11:25] <jonnyb> pretty critical
[11:25] <SiL3NC3> at the moment i'm building the site by myself, but if there can be any it folkz added it will grow
[11:25] <SiL3NC3> jonnyb: yes, it is
[11:26] <luciash> jonnyb: i thought u fixed it once already
[11:26] <jonnyb> indeed - stuff gets broken though...
[11:26] <jonnyb> part of the overhead of being "open" :)
[11:26] <SiL3NC3> :)
[11:26] <luciash> is it really broken in 6.4 SVN ?
[11:27] <jonnyb> seems to be, and 6.3 release somehow
[11:27] <SiL3NC3> are there any german developers in your crew, so i can communicate a bit easier ...
[11:28] <jonnyb> yes a few - coaboa is one (greetings)
[11:29] <SiL3NC3> nice
[11:29] <SiL3NC3> this will help getting into translating issues as well to get tiki 100% german
[11:29] <SiL3NC3> I'm happy about getting here ! :)
[11:30] <jonnyb> another good place to communicate is the developers email list...
[11:30] <SiL3NC3> quite at the same answering speed like at irc?
[11:30] <jonnyb> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=64258
[11:31] <jonnyb> no, obviously it can take a day or two to get replies, but a couple of hundred people get the message
[11:31] <jonnyb> i have a feeling there might be a German IRC group somewhere (not my area, i'm in the UK)
[11:31] <SiL3NC3> okay, i'll have a look at it
[11:32] <SiL3NC3> THIS you be perfect!
[11:33] <jonnyb> you should probably check out http://de.tiki.org too
[11:34] <SiL3NC3> already done, but the forums are not really visited, imho
[11:34] <SiL3NC3> maybe we should create a german dev team, if not already existing
[11:35] <SiL3NC3> pls, excuse me. wasnt talking english for a longer time ... (if anything sounds wired) ;)
[11:37] <SiL3NC3> just want to bring me in ...
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[11:39] <jonnyb> no problem SiL3NC3-de, you're clear enough!
[11:40] <SiL3NC3-de> i like this tiki "thingie" and love that this was release open source, a big thanks to all contributors worldwide
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[11:41] <SiL3NC3-de> i'm with IT and the internet for many years, got in touch with many cms systems, but never with tiki (since 3 weeks ago) ...
[11:41] <SiL3NC3-de> :)
[11:41] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34547 10/branches/7.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Text.php: 
[11:41] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: [FIX] trackers: Parse value for TextArea fields (including multilungual values), but not Text
[11:41] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: Also fix small pre/post typo correction on append text
[11:41] <jonnyb> and apart from that user prefs bug, how are you finding it?
[11:42] <SiL3NC3-de> brilliant!
[11:42] <jonnyb> I would suggest if you don't need to launch within the next week or two and it's a totally fresh project, i would use 7.x (from svn if you can) as that's where all the bug fixing and energy (at least mine) is going at the moment
[11:43] <SiL3NC3-de> i love it off the first local installation. i can see power of functions, permissions, ... huuhh. all i really need ...
[11:43] <jonnyb> so for instance, if i can fix this prefs thing you can just svn up and your site will be mended
[11:44] <jonnyb> lots of nice new things in 7 (and feedback is eagerly anticipated)
[11:44] <jonnyb> brb
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[11:47] <SiL3NC3-de> i will report any bug or problem, promised! :) this update to SVN sounds interesting ... will give it a try.
[11:48] <jonnyb> you found http://dev.tiki.org/svntips i guess?
[11:49] <SiL3NC3-de> thank you .. all links welcome ... ;)
[11:51] <SiL3NC3-de> any bugtracker link?
[11:59] <jonnyb> http://dev.tiki.org/Search+Bugs
[12:21] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34549 10/branches/7.x/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.php: [FIX] trackers: Remove obsolete warning
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[12:25] <RavenC> polom
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[12:26] <jonnyb> hi RavenC 
[12:26] <jonnyb> + qb :)
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[12:28] <qb> cheers, anyone knows how to display current version number in wikipage content? My users use wkhtmltopdf to printout documentation, and they need to know if it is still current.
[12:29] <jonnyb> the page version? (revision)
[12:29] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34550 10/trunk/lib/ (prefs/max.php prefs/min.php setup/prefs.php): [FIX] Defaults not defined at the right place
[12:30] <qb> exacly
[12:30] <qb> current revision
[12:30] <jonnyb> hmm, good question - maybe with the {smarty} plugin?
[12:31] <jonnyb> chealer: you awake yet? I merged the user prefs forms into one and it seems fine, can you remember why they were split in the first place?
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[12:37] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34551 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl: [FIX] user prefs: Merge the first two tabs into one form, otherwise things on the hidden tab get reset to their defaults, making the page unusable (thanks SiL3NC3-de)
[12:41] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34552 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl: [bp/r34551][FIX] user prefs: Merge the first two tabs into one form, otherwise things on the hidden tab get reset to their defaults, making the page unusable (thanks SiL3NC3-de)
[12:46] * chealer completes wakeup sequence.
[12:46] <chealer> polom
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[12:46] <jonnyb> hi chealer - i did the fix for user prefs on 7 and 6, sent a mail to both lists asking for testing...
[12:47] <jonnyb> good poloms marclaporte 
[12:48] <marclaporte> :-)
[12:53] <chealer> jonnyb: I definitely can't remember having discussed why tabs are in different forms. the only thing I do remember is that the split in tabs is itself rather recent.
[12:53] <RavenC> Decided to revisit the failed pretty trackers attempt I made a couple of weeks ago.  Was sitting there staring at doc.tw.o for two hours when the lightbulb FINALLY came on!
[12:53] <jonnyb> was for 6.0 i think - maybe it was someone else, but i do remember (partially) a conversation about why it was left like that...
[12:54] * RavenC overlooks the "easy" way too often
[12:54] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34553 10/trunk/ (9 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 34519 to 34551
[12:57] <jonnyb> ok all, really have to do some other jobs - will be lurking...
[12:59] <chealer> jonnyb: the new form (7.x) is invalid (as the previous one, of course), although I'm not sure why "End tag fieldset seen, but there were open elements."
[13:00] <jonnyb> must admit i haven't been checking validity for a while, just getting stuff functional first! :)
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[13:01] <chealer> there was a form inside a fieldset...
[13:03] <qb> I just saw that I print page to pdf by wkhtmltopdf I will lost all images on that page, is there some fix for this?
[13:06] <chealer> so now the form is opened in the first fieldset and closed in the second fieldset
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[13:18] <chealer> SiL3NC3-de: please speak here unless you have a reason to talk personally
[13:20] <SiL3NC3-de> the reason is german?
[13:20] <SiL3NC3-de> kann ich hier auch deutsch reden?
[13:21] <chealer> SiL3NC3-de: the only language this channel speaks reasonably well is English
[13:22] <SiL3NC3-de> so this could be a reason for private chat?
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[13:26] <chealer> SiL3NC3-de: I don't understand German. what is the problem?
[13:28] <SiL3NC3-de> not really a problem ... just want to get in touch with german dev. maybe got it wrong ...
[13:28] <chealer> jonnyb: so yeah, can't have a single form inside the fieldset. the way it's done in Edit page is that the form encompasses the whole tabset, but that can't be done here because the third tab has a different form.
[13:29] <chealer> I'm afraid this needs a bit bigger adaptation. maybe the third tab should have its own screen.
[13:30] <jonnyb> at least you can save stuff now, let's hope for a better fix for 7.1
[13:30] <chealer> SiL3NC3-de: the only German developers I recognize here are amette and coaboa.
[13:31] <SiL3NC3-de> okay, there is the failure ... the name was coaboa ... not chealer, so pls excuse me
[13:31] <chealer> ah, no problem SiL3NC3-de
[13:38] <marclaporte> qb I don't know, never used that feature, sorry
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[13:53] <RavenC> In a date/time tracker field, you can specify [datetime] as "d" to only allow a date, and "dt" for date and time.  would a "t" be vaild to only do time ?
[13:54] <marclaporte> try it!
[13:54] <marclaporte> if not, add a feature request for trackers v8
[13:54] <marclaporte> Tiki v8, that sounds good, actually :-)
[13:55] * RavenC thumps forehead...  Wow!  I could have had a V8
[13:55] <RavenC> will try it Marc, thanks
[13:55] * marclaporte 's personal is still at Tiki 1.9.x
[13:55] * marclaporte 's personal site is still at Tiki 1.9.x
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[13:57] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34554 10/trunk/categorize_list.php: [FIX] Categories: only consider cat_categories for new objects. Fixes Quick edit module changing categories of already existing pages (Ref: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.cvs/63812 )
[14:18] <RavenC> fyi...  date/time tracker field ...  "t" does work to create a time field...  :)
[15:10] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34555 10/branches/7.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [FIX]TRACKERFILTER: preserve order of fields of the filter param
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[15:14] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34556 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerfilter.php: [bp/r34555][FIX]TRACKERFILTER: preserve order of fields of the filter param
[15:35] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: File Links Missing - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=20&comments_parentId=41296
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[15:55] <qb> cheers, how to allow attachents bigger than 2mb ? - in "file upload" below wiki page
[16:01] <qb> I changed "Maximum size for each attachment" but it is in webmail section and and seems not affect file uploads
[16:01] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34557 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-quick_edit.php: [FIX] Quick Edit: incomplete merge from r34553
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[16:07] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34558 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] Edit page: undefined variables notices (from r27746)
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[16:11] <sylvieg> qb: http://doc.tiki.org/File+Gallery+Config&structure=Documentation+TOC#Setting_the_maximum_upload_size.
[16:16] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34559 10/branches/7.x/templates/modules/mod-quick_edit.tpl: [FIX] Quick Edit module: Custom header template parameter (from r27746)
[16:18] <qb> changed and working!, thanks sylvieg! cheers
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[16:24] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34560 10/branches/7.x/templates/modules/mod-quick_edit.tpl: [FIX] HTML special characters encoding
[16:25] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34561 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-quick_edit.php: [FIX] Quick edit module: filter size parameter as an integer
[16:44] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34562 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Login box module: Undefined index mode notices
[16:53] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34563 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-upcoming_events.tpl: [FIX] Upcoming events module: "Undefined offset: 0" notice when there are no events coming (from r26150)
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[17:30] <RavenC> I have a tracker "Id 10" that has a link item from tracker "Id 9", all works fine.  Trying to create a basic {TRACKER on a wiki page for tracker "Id10".  It all works fine if I leave out the link item field.  If I include it, the page blows on preview (or save for that matter).  Is there a workaround for this ?
[17:31] <marclaporte> polom
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[17:40] <rodrigo_sampaio1> polom marclaporte
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[17:54] <RavenC> ugh... giving up on pretty trackers (again)
[18:28] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34565 10/branches/7.x/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Strip out lucene special characters from tokens to avoid unpredictable crashes
[18:33] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34566 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 34551 to 34565
[19:01] <CIA-87> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34567 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] Edit page cache warning: formulation (from r34504)
[19:39] <marclaporte> preview diff in latest proposals 6.x: I think we still have some issues
[19:47] <chealer> oh, we have diff preview? cool!
[19:47] <chealer> none of the previews work for me in my 7.x
[19:54] <chealer> hum, it worked at first but not after changing preview type (even switching back to diff)
[19:55] <chealer> reproduced
[19:56] <chealer> works again when clicking Preview again
[19:58] <chealer> same thing in Opera and Iceweasel (Firefox)
[20:20] <marclaporte> hmmmm
[20:20] <marclaporte> behavior for 6 and 7 is the same?
[20:22] <chealer> marclaporte: I don't know, I have different type of preview in my proposals/6.x and my 7.x. The 7.x uses the AJAX thing I believe. preview currently generally works in my proposals/6.x.
[20:29] <sylvieg> +1 for chealer it is good you posted about the cache
[21:00] <RavenC> Have a ncie evening everyone
[21:00] <RavenC> ^nice too  :)
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[21:22] <SiL3NC3-de> hi there again, with a small question. can i setup tiki to only use the wysiwyg editor without the wikisyntax (or do i have to use html pages function)?
[21:23] <SiL3NC3-de> what are your tips about using the wysiwyg solution ...
[21:28] <rodrigo_sampaio1> hi SiL3NC3-de, you want to have the wysiwyg editor as the default editor for wiki pages? if so, that is possible. there is a option in Admin -> WYSIWYG to mark it as default
[21:28] <rodrigo_sampaio1> SiL3NC3-de: I never used the wysiwyg so I can't help you much. All I can say is don't trust the conversion between wysiwyg and wiki syntax. it doesn't work.
[21:33] <SiL3NC3-de> i think about, thanks. but can i use wiki pages with direct html content?
[21:33] <SiL3NC3-de> or do i have to use the wikisyntax
[21:34] <SiL3NC3-de> i would all in all prefer html instead of wikisyntax
[21:34] <SiL3NC3-de> strict, if possible
[21:46] <SiL3NC3-de> okay, to set some module functions handling with the wiki editor is much easier .. the option to switch would be helpful (to administrators)
[21:47] <SiL3NC3-de> thx for your response
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