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Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3898 - - 7.0b2 Error trying to validate newly uploaded file draft - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3898 [04:09]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r34571 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-admin_transitions.tpl: better doc for transitions [07:29]
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r34572 10/branches/7.x/lib/prefs/header.php: dedicated to Jean-Luc [07:37]
Bernard1Kaltura feature is working for someone ? I can upload, see the video on my account at kaltura.com but i can't display anything in tw (not in wiki page, not in kaltura feature) [07:49]
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chickencowi've just installed tikiwiki on FreeBSD with Lighttpd. it seems to work ok except it ****s up on login, just returning me to the homepage not logged in, or if i try and re-run the installer (where it screws up like with login on the "database credentials" screen). i'm not great at installing server software so maybe i'm missing something obvious? [09:57]
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ricks99polom y'all [10:49]
jonnybhi ricks99 [10:49]
ricks99hiya jonnyb [10:49]
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on community site, the right column modules do not display anymore
they all have perspective=0 		[11:09]
jonnybthink it need an update to proposals/6.x (fairly sure i fixed that one in 6.x a while ago) [11:12]
ricks99k. [11:13]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34573 10/branches/7.x/db/tiki.sql: [FIX] modules: Don't make redundant custom module for the Application Menu [11:55]
Trebly<jonnyb> Hi, a subject that I have not followed at all, but I don't find anything about. I explain it by the mean of an actual need.
The problem is for users of a group (here first presidents of associations) to have an "active guide" to create all around their group with full help : a guide with commands to set-up element of configuration concerning his association.
I named this "association package"
The case is the animator of a group : after registering himself (as group manager - associations) he has to :
1- Create a sub-category 2- Create the group (with defined rights) 3- Create the home page for the group 4- Create a blog and one or several forum (with the sub-category) 5- a wiki structure 6- Articles with pre-defined subjects 7- Create registering of users form etc.
What is the solution for this "Script with function calls with pre-defined parameters into a guide", what's your opinion ? Who can or take care of such subject ? 		[12:00]
jonnybhi Trebly - sounds like "workspaces", i think it's possible
you'd do it with profiles and datachannels
check out http://doc.tiki.org/Data+Channels 		[12:01]
Trebly<jonnyb> Thank's [12:03]
jonnybgood luck, it's not trivial! :) [12:06]
ricks99: this thing about {poll} without a pollId seems odd - the code definitely won't work without an id - it is required apparently [12:16]
ricks99used to work just fine (tiki 4 was last i used it) [12:16]
jonnyblooks like someone changed the behaviour a lot then around tiki 5 (wasn't me :) ) [12:17]
sylviegyes I confirmed was working in older versions [12:17]
ricks99if there's no code, it is supposed to call $polllib->get_random_poll [12:17]
jonnybhi sylvieg [12:17]
sylvieghi [12:17]
ricks99tx for confirmatin sylvieg [12:18]
jonnybthe word random isn't in that plugin [12:18]
ricks99i'm looking at it, line 33
functgion.poll.php
*function 		[12:18]
jonnyband the line that says "missing poll ID for plugin POLL" was added in 2005 by mose [12:19]
ricks99if (empty($id)) { $id = $polllib->get_random_poll("a"); } [12:19]
jonnybi'm looking at wikiplugin_poll.php
i thought you were talking about a wiki plugin...
that's a smarty plugin 		[12:19]
ricks99{poll}
how many poll plugins are there? 		[12:19]
jonnybdepends if it's wiki or smarty parsed
try it in a custom module? 		[12:20]
ricks99ricks99 completely confused now.
i've tried in module and wiki pages 		[12:20]
jonnybdon't blame you [12:20]
ricks99fails in tiki 6 & 7 [12:20]
jonnybin as module with wiki parse off [12:20]
ricks99checking...
with wiki parsing off, i get nothing. 		[12:21]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Trackerlist pluglin with nested plugin in template - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41306 [12:23]
ricks99with parsing on, i get a bunch of html crap, then "missing id for plugin poll" message [12:24]
jonnybsounds quite broken, sorry i don't have time to get into it (had a quick look, it's all rather involved)
but if it's been broken since 5 it's not really a blocker imho 		[12:27]
ricks99didn't mean to have it listed as 'blocker' -- just an issue that i wanted to flag [12:28]
jonnybindeed, i saw that - thanks, but i was hoping to fix it for you - just looks a bit more involved than a simple typo or something [12:32]
ricks99lol, simple typos, i might b able to fix it myslef
:)
did you want to take a stab at the issue with the VERSIONS plugin? 		[12:32]
jonnybthink i did that one didn't i?
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/?rev=34514&view=rev 		[12:34]
ricks99ah.. still listed as open: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2872
i'll confirm & close. tx 		[12:35]
jonnybthx [12:35]
ricks99backport to 6? [12:35]
jonnybnot sure i updated dev.t.o/tiki7 either [12:36]
ricks99will do that too (update the tiki7 page) [12:36]
jonnybis it needed? thought it was a parser change thing [12:36]
ricks99broken in 6.3 [12:36]
jonnybshould be easy to backport though, quite a clean fix and probably no other changes in 7 [12:36]
ricks99tx
ricks99 svn'ing up to confirm...
looks good (in 7). tx jonnyb! 		[12:36]
jonnybbbl [12:41]
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luciash{poll}om [13:47]
Bernard1nice one lu ! [13:47]
luciash*g* [13:47]
ricks99ROTFLMAO [13:47]
luciashhey guys [13:48]
jonnybhi luciash [14:00]
sylviegI have a wrongly encoded database.. the utf encoding is not enough I need a double encoding patch. Do I have to run the patch before or after the utf8 encoding [14:06]
jonnybhmmm, good question sylvieg - make a backup and try both? [14:07]
sylviegi try utf8 adn after double encoding =- seems to work.. trying the other way [14:07]
jonnybshould be after i think (but i always get charset stuff wrong at least once) [14:07]
sylviegme too ;-) [14:07]
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luciashsylvieg: also check your client charset in local.php
yo jonnyb 		[14:39]
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jonnybhi luciash [14:53]
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xavipolom
I'm testing tracker item history in proposals_6x
I recall it was working for me in some site (I don't remember where)...
and nowadays, I don't seem to be able to get anything shown with tiki-tracker_view_history.php?itemId=1 (after some changes have been bade to that item)
I was willing to add some documentation (it seems there is no page about it in doc.t.o)... 		[14:56]
jonnybhi xavi - not used that bit, no idea [14:58]
xavihi jonnyb, no worries [14:58]
jonnybthink that was a sylvieg thing? [14:59]
xavimaybe [14:59]
luciashhi xavi [14:59]
xavihi luciash [14:59]
luciashit works for me in 6.x
if it's broken in proposals it must be recent 		[14:59]
xaviit does work for me somwhere, but I can't make it work in a test tiki 6 on localhost
mmmm 		[15:00]
luciashi will re-check [15:00]
xavixavi checks with tiki6
(non proposals) 		[15:00]
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luciashxavi: wfm [15:05]
xavi? [15:05]
luciashin 6.4 props
works for me 		[15:05]
xaviok
I'll repeat what I do , maybe you notice that I'm missing something (?)
I create a tracker item
I edit the tracker item again, changing some fields (1 text area, and 2 text fields ) and save changes
refresh the tiki-tracker_view_history.php?itemId=1 page
but I see nothing there
:-(
I'm logged in as admin 		[15:05]
luciashbut the item is itemId1 ?
if you create new, the itemId must be new 		[15:07]
xaviwell, itemId=2 [15:08]
luciashok
your db is uptodate ? 		[15:08]
xavigood point... I'll double check [15:08]
it seems db is up to date
and I'm running right now on proposals 6.4 		[15:13]
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jonnybre [15:16]
luciashxavi: strange
jonnyb: wb :) 		[15:17]
jonnybthe monthly reboot :) [15:17]
xavi:-) [15:17]
luciashsylvieg: rating field is type 's' ? [15:19]
jonnybluciash: there are two types! i think * is one [15:20]
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xaviluciash: can you see history of items on dev.t.o?
I can't ... and I guess that the link should be shown in the item list table: http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker.php?trackerId=5
maybe something else has to be "on" 		[15:21]
luciashxavi: on my local it is visible as little db icon in the list and when editing the tracker item [15:22]
xavi"and when editing the tracker item": I don't see that part
I only see the icon in the list view
I'll check at db table...
at db table level, I mean
ok, in dev.t.o, I can see the icon as user with admin rights on the tracker 		[15:23]
luciashon dev i can see the icon [15:25]
xaviI'm testing in dev.t.o
ok, it works in dev.t.o
well, it works somehow in 7.x (even if buggy): duplicated information 8 times or so. Example:
https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-tracker_view_history.php?itemId=426
I just made one change ^
on a few fields 		[15:25]
luciashit lists all changed fields values [15:29]
xavibut tracker history shows each modified field many times
for instance: "115:26 UTCxavidp55Lastmod byNelsonNelson" is repeated many times
and this was expected just once
oh well 		[15:29]
luciashgotta go, bbl [15:31]
xavic u [15:35]
jonnybjust got a nasty on a tracker plugin form - require_once(lib/filegals/filegallib.php) [<a href='function.require-once'>function.require-once</a>]: failed to open stream: Too many open files
anyone ever seen that? 		[15:38]
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xavinope, sorry [15:41]
Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3899 - - tracker item history: displays same information 8 extra times - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3899 [15:50]
xaviok, I have to go
see you all 		[15:58]
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Tiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #3900 - - 6x: apparently unreliable tracker item history: works in some sites, but not on others - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3900 [16:00]
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chealerpolom [16:38]
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rodrigo_sampaiohi chealer [17:01]
chealerhello rodrigo_sampaio [17:01]
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rodrigo_sampaiohi ricks99
ricks99: I have created a very simple script to update language.php files
ricks99: would be great if you could test it and give me some feedback 		[17:17]
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RavenCpolom
if i place html in a wiki page, will it pick up the CSS hrefs from tikiwiki, or would they have to be specified on the wiki page in the html ?
nvm... it picked it up... my typo :)
RavenC needs more coffee 		[17:24]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34574 10/branches/7.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Wiki history: All versions archived even when "History all instead of only page data, description, and change comment" is disabled (r31737 regression) [17:54]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34575 10/branches/7.x/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX]tracker: attachment : if the pref t_use_db is by error not n and not y, long attachments were truncated
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34576 10/branches/7.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] Wiki admin: description of feature_wiki_history_full 		[17:59]
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ricks99Hi rodrigo_samaio: i can take a look later tonite [18:13]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34577 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [bp/r34575][FIX]tracker: attachment : if the pref t_use_db is by error not n and not y, long attachments were truncated [18:14]
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rodrigo_sampaioricks99: ok, I will send the instructions to your e-mail. thanks [18:29]
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MnemeGood afternoon. I am interested in a sort of subscription management plugin. Optimally, this would allow me to bill users a subscription fee to access particular parts of the site, e.g. the wiki but not the forums or blogs (probably by assigning subscribers to a particular group with permissions to access the subscription parts). Is this feature or something close in Tikiwiki, or if not, does anyone know of a plugin that would work [18:34]
jonnybhi Mneme - yes there's something just like that in tiki [18:35]
ricks99i think tiki user credit is what you're looking for
hi jonnyb 		[18:36]
MnemeAhh
Thank you.
http://w.tarazedi.com/ BTW, what are the requirements for submitting a theme? 		[18:36]
jonnybi was thinking of http://doc.tiki.org/PluginMemberPayment [18:37]
ricks99ahh. probably better solution [18:37]
jonnybthere's usually more than one way in tiki
not played with user credits yet 		[18:37]
CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34578 10/trunk/doc/devtools/update_english_strings.php: minor improvement to update_english_strings.php [18:40]
mlpvolthello - plugin member payment, if i recall it joins a member to a group and direct the user to a paypal payment page. That works but manual verification is required that the user actually paid. [18:40]
MnemeMneme contemplates documentation. [18:44]
CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34579 10/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 34565 to 34576 [18:47]
jonnybhi mlpvolt - i thought the paypal sent the authorisation straight back to tiki (well, the code's in there) [18:48]
mlpvoltcould be a later version. im thinking circa tiki5 [18:49]
Mneme6.0 for me. [18:52]
luciashre-polom [18:54]
MnemeOkay. I apologize for the density of my skull, but the documentation is over my head. The PluginMemberPayment seems about what I'm looking for, but I can't exactly figure out how to use it? What would the workflow look like? It looks like it adds a box on a page of your choice that directs a user to PP for instance. Beyond that I'm mystified. [18:55]
mlpvolti'm doing up a simplified schema (drawing) showing all the main divs in a theme layout for tiki 7. somebody stop me if this is already done. :) [18:55]
MnemeJai mlpvolt! *bows* [18:56]
ricks99@mlpvolt: i started one a while ago: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/template+map
dont' think it has been updated for 7 		[18:56]
luciashmlpvolt: it was already done but it is probably outdated so you're welcome to do it again :) [18:58]
ricks99@Mneme: you would need to create a group that has access to the specific tiki areas. then use the plugin to assign folks to that group upon payment [18:58]
MnemeOkay. [19:00]
mlpvoltluci - i know i've done them too in the past, but redoing seems faster than finding at the moment. (i think you did ((theme layout schema)) in doc which still still mostly right. [19:00]
sylviegmlpvolt: of couse you need to have perm or plugin GROUP set un the pages to have the membership efficinet - but no manual interaction is needing. The group assignment is done as sson as the paypal is ok [19:00]
luciashmlpvolt: the one i am talking about is here → http://dev.tiki.org/Templates+Best+Practices&highlight=templates#General_layout_of_a_template:
mlpvolt: i don't remember if there's some on doc site too 		[19:01]
mlpvoltluci: its the same graphic [19:02]
luciashok [19:02]
mlpvoltafaik the tiki 7 layout is the same, but i'm adding the top-bar and page top and page bottom which correspond to the module zones. [19:04]
luciashcool [19:04]
mlpvoltevery module still gets a #module_name id right? [19:05]
luciashhttp://themes.tiki.org/Theme+header+modules
there's some useful info by gary 		[19:06]
RavenCIs there a way to display/link to attachments in a pretty tracker ? [19:14]
luciashsure [19:19]
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luciashRavenC: proof is at
https://doc.tiki.org/Pretty+Tracker 		[19:22]
RavenClucia, I found the best way was to create another field called attachments... easier to reference
thanks 		[19:23]
well, scratch that idea.. it only saves one.... sigh [19:35]
luciashRavenC: iirc u need tracker attachment field type
or maybe that's the one ?
hm 		[19:37]
RavenCLuciash, that is what i created. However, after attaching one file and browse for next, it replaces it to current attachment, does not list two [19:38]
luciashic [19:38]
RavenCif I use the default "display attachments in listing", it takes me to the internal tracker area, which users will get lost in...
no worries, it's monday :) 		[19:39]
MnemeClarification: "attach permissions to this object" does not imply "attach permissions to this wiki page" but rather "attach permissions to the wiki in general", correct? [19:40]
luciashyou could maybe use wiki page type field and attach the files to the created wiki page where the pretty tracker would be displayed
Mneme: i think the first is true
object is the wiki page 		[19:41]
MnemeOkay. [19:41]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34580 10/branches/7.x/lib/blogs/bloglib.php: [FIX] filter content when updating a blog post [20:22]
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mlpvoltin 7, it would appear that the generated CSS id for modules is different depending on which zone the module appears in. [20:46]
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RavenChave a nice evening everyone [20:48]
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mlpvoltso if a module was re-assigned from top-bar to page top it would no longer be #custom_module_name
it would seem to become a .box-custom_module_name 		[20:49]
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tikinoob?
probably not the best place to ask but....
after finishing for the 7th time tiki uploading and setting in my server I get an empty page...
I am pretty sure that files are ok, I do not have direct access to mysql ...
any ideas
???
pliiiiiz 		[21:03]
chealertikinoob: could you show us? [21:09]
tikinoob?? [21:09]
Tiki|bot??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] [21:09]
tikinoobhow? [21:10]
chealertikinoob: is your installation accessible from the Internet? [21:10]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34581 10/branches/7.x/ (4 files): [FIX] restore blog post behavior (allow html) after r34013 fixed parse_data() [21:10]
tikinoobwelcom-project.ipet.gr/tiki-6.3
sry but cant provide user:pass
(production... server) 		[21:11]
chealertikinoob: is PHP error reporting enabled? [21:13]
tikinoobhm good idea I am doing it now. [21:13]
CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34582 10/branches/7.x/lib/blogs/bloglib.php: [FIX] restore blog post excerpt behavior (allow html) after r34013 fixed parse_data() [21:15]
tikinoobjust finished reinstalling and selecting "report all php errors"
again http://welcom-project.ipet.gr/tiki-6.3/tiki-index.php is completely blank 		[21:16]
CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34583 10/branches/7.x/lib/blogs/bloglib.php: [FIX] filter blog post excerpt [21:18]
chealertikinoob: did you check your Apache logs? [21:25]
tikinoobdon't have access to them :(
i only have ftp and a db account 		[21:25]
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tikinoobsame version works perfectly on my pc [21:27]
chealertikinoob: can your modify PHP configuration? enable display_errors [21:27]
CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34584 10/branches/proposals/6.x/ (. lib/blogs/bloglib.php):
tikiwiki: [bp/34580][FIX] filter content when updating a blog post
tikiwiki: [bp/34583][FIX] filter blog post excerpt 		[21:28]
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mlpvoltI posted a tiki 7 theme schema diagram to doc ((theme layout schema)) feel free to improve or correct [21:33]
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tikinoobnope
anyway thanks
tomorrow I am going to get db admin and kick him 		[21:36]
mlpvoltnoob check your server against the stuff listed in the requirements page.
or whomever is the server admin 		[21:37]
chealertikinoob: are you sure you can't see web server logs? [21:43]
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CIA-87tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34585 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 34576 to 34583 [21:45]
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mlpvoltchealer - where can i find installer/schema/20090808_add_wiki_minor_edits_tiki.sql (it is not in latest branch) [22:01]
chealermlpvolt: by latest branch do you think about trunk or what? [22:02]
mlpvolti couldn't find it in 7 [22:03]
chealermlpvolt: it's there for 7: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/browser/branches/7.x/installer/schema/20090808_add_wiki_minor_edits_tiki.sql [22:04]
mlpvoltfunny i couldn't find it in my install.
thanks, i'm sure that will not be the end of the fun for this upgrade. 		[22:04]
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there are a lot of missing columns that weren't added by the installer on this (extreme) upgrade.
1.9.10 -> 7 		[22:29]
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