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ricks99 | looks like doc.t.o is bkac | [00:06] |
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fabricius | yes ricks99
but itś a bit odd - seems as in the middle of a revamp | [00:28] |
ricks99 | there's a major re-indexing ongoing. other sites were down ealier today | [00:29] |
fabricius | if you do not know the page names it gets a bit uneasy | [00:29] |
ricks99 | ? | [00:29] |
fabricius | I am not sure, but I think, that structures are broken somehow
was agonising today, how to get the german translation in | [00:30] |
ricks99 | no. it is because some of the pages are in multiple structures. so, if you open the page without the structure ID, there structure drop down is emply --- you need to seledct the structue | [00:31] |
fabricius | I would prefer just to use one multilingual structure - respectively one for each guide | [00:31] |
ricks99 | no. there's only a single structure -- simple translate the pages 1:1
dont make a new structure | [00:32] |
fabricius | I know, but for example with the german start page (Documantation -> Documentation,de) ist seems strange
it seems, that there is a structure with the same name than the page name | [00:33] |
ricks99 | there are 2 new (revamp) guids. I'd start with those:
http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki+Installation+Guide&structure=Tiki+Installation+Guide http://doc.tiki.org/Tiki+Reference+Guide | [00:33] |
fabricius | I do not strat additional structures - want to keep iut simple and follow you, until I see s.th. to discuss
have seen that I am agonising on a specific point at the very beginning of the documentation | [00:34] |
ricks99 | ricks99 can get back to tiki doc, now that Smarties is published :-)
ah. i can't help with German, but ping me if you have issues | [00:35] |
fabricius | the general stuff - all what you did send me today seems very clear
it seems not only to be german s.th. with the structures is odd - very different than yesterday and all the last year | [00:35] |
ricks99 | structure is different than last year, yes. But should be same as yesterday. We started during TikiFest Boston
But then, doc site is running Tiki7beta (I think) so things might be "flakey" for a bit | [00:37] |
fabricius | perhabs I didn't realise it earlier on, because I work mostly in english
the real problem is following: | [00:39] |
ricks99 | ricks99 wonders what the german equivalent for "flakey" is... seltsam ? | [00:40] |
fabricius | depends on how you mean flakey - do you mean "unsound" or "undependable"
seltsam would more be "weird" or "curious" or "strange" so flakey in the sense of undependable would be "unzuverlässig" and flakey in the sense of strange would be "seltsam" | [00:42] |
ricks99 | "undependable" | [00:45] |
fabricius | but good point | [00:45] |
ricks99 | ooooohhhh "01unzuverlässig" I like that :-) | [00:45] |
fabricius | so back to the structure ...
in english version all would behave like you mention it but if I switch to german, then go to "all the documentation" you'll find a german translation of "Documentation" named "Dokumentation" sorry, delete the two sentences that are the startpages, thats fine I meant "Documentation+TOC" and it's translation "documentation,de" | [00:46] |
ricks99 | in the revamp, there wont be a "All documentaiton" structure
the idea is... | [00:49] |
fabricius | mom pleas
I found that translation today and I had to realise, that this translation seems to be in a different structure than "Documentation+TOC" but multilingual structures is activated | [00:50] |
ricks99 | The Documentation+TOC structure is old -- prior to the revamp | [00:51] |
fabricius | might it be, that Tiki translates the structure name aswell, if the page has the same name as the structure? | [00:51] |
ricks99 | the root of the struture is a wiki page named identically to the structure | [00:52] |
fabricius | what I am wondering is, that the structure of the german page is clearly shown in the drop down menu, but does not exist in tiki-admin_structures
so the structure name is translated aswell? looks like would explain | [00:52] |
ricks99 | I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand. You only need to translate each wiki page *in* the structure
You shouldn't have to change or edit the structure at all | [00:54] |
fabricius | ricks99: no worry, I did not do any different, I just found a previous translated page and I am wondering ...
so in this translation there is a wikiplugin {TOC} - shouldn't this wikiplugin show the same pages than the english original? if available the german versions and if not the english versions? | [00:55] |
ricks99 | yes, *if* the site lang is DE | [00:57] |
fabricius | And THAT'S the point -> this is not fitting together
the translation only shows a fraction of the pages of the original hmmm I'll check, if the parameters are the same in the original than in the translation | [00:58] |
ricks99 | what page (url) are you looking at | [00:59] |
fabricius | http://doc.tiki.org/Documentation+TOC | [01:00] |
ricks99 | that is the old structure
it is not part of the re-vamp Try this, it will make things much clearer... | [01:00] |
fabricius | I think so | [01:02] |
ricks99 | 1. log out of doc.t.o (so that your personal prefs will not mix things up).
2. Go to http://doc.tiki.org/Tik+Installation+Guide 3. Notice that the entire {toc} is in English (the site default language). 4. Now, switch the language to French. 5. Notice that some of the pages in the {toc} are in French (others remain in English because they have not been translated yet). But it is all in the same / single / one structure does that make sense? | [01:03] |
fabricius | dunno
it makes sense and it work with german same than english err french only two things, I do not yet understand: 1) why is that different than with the old structure, where it should be the same 2) on the top of the page "Documentation+Toc" and so on you do have a "structures dropdown but on the Tiki+Installation+Guide the backlinks | [01:07] |
ricks99 | 1) the old structure was created in 1.x and continually upgraded. In older Tiki, there was no "multilingual structure" feature | [01:11] |
fabricius | ahh
makes thing odd or strange or flakey | [01:11] |
ricks99 | 01unzuverlässig :) | [01:12] |
fabricius | and the startpage of the installation guide is only in one structure | [01:12] |
ricks99 | 2) if a page belongs to multiple structures, and if you open the page from a URL that does not include the structure, Tiki opens the page with a "blank" structure. As we continue the revamp and move pages out of the old structure, this will no longer be an issue. Each page will be in only 1 structure | [01:13] |
fabricius | so if thats all right understood now, I would think it would be the best generally allow only one structure per page for the documentation | [01:13] |
ricks99 | Things are still "in flux" right now | [01:13] |
fabricius | ahhh that's very very good | [01:13] |
ricks99 | "im Wandel" ? | [01:14] |
fabricius | Each page will be in only 1 structure - exactly my conclusion, so just take my +1 afterwords, even if I missed Boston and it would be too late anyway | [01:14] |
ricks99 | Are things more clear now? | [01:15] |
fabricius | yes I thank you very much | [01:15] |
ricks99 | no problem. Thanks for the translations | [01:15] |
fabricius | I was thinking in this direction, but somehow have been at the start of the detective work - just saw the mess in front of the house, while you and the others have been cleaning up inside since a while
in flux: im Wandel or in Entwicklung ... Entwicklung would be development ... literally flux means s.th. like streaming | [01:17] |
ricks99 | Excellent. I think we're all on the same page now. :-) | [01:19] |
fabricius | I think so aswell
I did chat with Gregor a couple of times now on those issues he (we) was thinking to translate somehow better in the new structures How we (Gregor and me) could best enqueue in the doc revamp team not to mess up things? What would you suggest? do you take pages out of the old structures and rearange them in only one structure for each, so we could translate in the new guides just to understand your workflow | [01:19] |
ricks99 | intially, no. because we didn't want to "break" the exiting structure (remember, all the Tiki help links point to the existing/old structure).....
so unfortunately, we'll have 2 strucgtures (old and new) for a while, as we work forward. | [01:24] |
fabricius | ok | [01:25] |
ricks99 | when we're "done" we'll edit the "old" pages in the "old" structuer and place a redirect to the new page in the "new" structure. | [01:25] |
fabricius | so the new pages are renamed copies or completely new written documents? | [01:26] |
ricks99 | the new pages are completely new pages. we cut/paste content, as needed. again, i didn't want to risk "breaking" any existing links. | [01:26] |
fabricius | I mean, do you mostly cut/paste all and just overview or do you mostly rewrite and cut/paste just a litle bit?
anyway it seems most appropriate to translate only in the new guides I say we should make up a remarker, a not or a post-it for that just to prevent people to translate at the wrong side? would you agree? fabricius goes for a smoke bb in 5 minutes | [01:28] |
ricks99 | there used to be a custom center column... but it got "lost" during the upgrade i think..
ricks99 goes to get a drink... | [01:30] |
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josha | is it possible to register users manually via a script easily? or is there some pre-fabricated way of doing that? | [03:01] |
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ricks99|away | @josha: are you using some sort of external authentication (CAS, etc) from which you want to pre-load users? | [03:06] |
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josha | ricks99: no, i am integrating with a custom php app i have written. i want to be able to register remove tiki users based on actions in this other app
ricks99: it looks like i can fairly easily just insert them in the db though ricks99: i was just digging through the schema and it doesn't look like there is anything special that i need to do really | [03:22] |
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Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Installation Issue 6.3 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=41328 | [06:47] |
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jonnyb | polom | [09:34] |
anyone fancy 7.0RC1? | [09:43] | |
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chibaguy | polom | [09:48] |
jonnyb | polom chibaguy | [09:48] |
chibaguy | hi jonnyb | [09:48] |
jonnyb | any 7.0 blockers still for you? can't see any on dev.t.o/t7 | [09:49] |
chibaguy | No, I don't think so. | [09:49] |
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fabricius | hi jonnyb | [10:02] |
jonnyb | hi fabricius | [10:02] |
fabricius | I am making up a new small site for one of our local groups - installed a while ago with 6.1
actually I am customizing the template a bit - itś just a short term solution based on our old design, because some stuff isn't clarified regarding to the new national design why not using 7.0 RC1 ? I have some database versions problem, I cannot get rid of - Tiki tells me that the db version is not fitting and I should upgrade the database, what I did three times yesterday | [10:03] |
jonnyb | please do use 7.x, especially if you can use if via svn - that way you can easily update any fixes
not sure i follow about the db "not fitting" | [10:07] |
fabricius | I am still not familiar with svn -- too diferent for me -- I still believe, I would need s.b. to give me a hand for the first steps
ah ... a sec please Database Version Problem -> Your database requires an update to match the current Tiki version. Please proceed to the installer. ... | [10:09] |
jonnyb | and when you do you get errors, yes? | [10:12] |
fabricius | yes
plenty of them | [10:12] |
jonnyb | you need to click the thing that says "show errors" and click the checkboxes of ones that are ignorable | [10:12] |
fabricius | nearly 300 errors | [10:13] |
jonnyb | can you put them in pastebin?
300!? | [10:13] |
fabricius | 285 actually | [10:13] |
jonnyb | sql errors?
where did this db come from? | [10:13] |
fabricius | in the installer -upgrade dialogue
It was a new db for Tiki 6.1 and I have just a bit content in it - building up new | [10:13] |
jonnyb | i've never seen that many errors (since tiki 2 or 3 i think)
sounds like something's gone very wrong can you paste them somewhere please? | [10:15] |
fabricius | I had similar situations before, while mostly when I do a fresh installation or an clean upgrade I get 0 errors | [10:16] |
jonnyb | at the moment i only get two, which were caused by the accounting stuff | [10:16] |
fabricius | huh ... paste all the faults you mean? -> for some of the faults I must scroll down in the small boxes, guess most of them I do not need
I could try to get them out and show tham on a html page or s.th. similar, then give you a link you mean like this? that you can see the error messages? or I take out one or two and paste them here [off] | [10:17] |
jonnyb | copy the errors and go here: http://pastebin.com - paste them into the box and then paste the url back here? | [10:19] |
fabricius | ok | [10:19] |
http://pastebin.com/qTuBvij2
cool website - didn know it - will use that more often, thanks | [10:26] | |
jonnyb | weird there are so many
any with "already exists" or "duplicate column" in can be checked and ignored or "Duplicate entry" have you somehow changed your database manually? looks like tiki_schema has been emptied at some point? | [10:29] |
fabricius | wouldn't they appear atthe next upgrade again? | [10:30] |
jonnyb | no, one you ignore them they're added to the list of "already done" updates | [10:31] |
luciash | polom | [10:31] |
fabricius | moloq | [10:31] |
luciash | my first coffee today | [10:31] |
jonnyb | p.luciash | [10:31] |
Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Classified posting work (5856) - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=41329 | [10:32] |
fabricius | so you would not see any danger for me to continue using this database? | [10:32] |
jonnyb | fabricius: if you can i would start again with a clean install - seems very odd that you have all there spurious errors | [10:32] |
fabricius | ok
that's a clear message it is no problem | [10:32] |
jonnyb | well, if it's not something you did in phpmyadmin or something it just seems very odd - all those updates have been run, but it didn't remember somehow | [10:33] |
fabricius | didn yet start with the content, but would have today | [10:33] |
jonnyb | ok, weird - start afresh then | [10:33] |
fabricius | so I do a new start
thx | [10:34] |
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jonnyb | so you're running 7.0beta2?
cos 7.0RC1 should be out quite soon... | [10:34] |
fabricius | I could start with 6.2 or 6.3, cause I need that little style template as fall back solution for anothe group - then upgrade directly to 7.0beta2
but if it would be any help for you, I could also start with 7.0RC1 today ah sorry mixed up the two versions other way round | [10:36] |
jonnyb | up to you, feedback about both would be welcome :) | [10:38] |
fabricius | start with 7.0beta2 today if you need feedback or upgrade to 7.0RC1 from 6.2 in a couple of days | [10:38] |
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fabricius | Is there any style ported to 7.x already? I guess fivealive might be alright working on 7 ?
I tried a 7.0beta1 some time before and at least fivealive seemed ok fabricius gets a coffee now, will brb | [10:40] |
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CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34602 10/branches/7.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] tracker plugin: Add special creator/modifier fields to tracker form if they're not specified in the field list tikiwiki: Currently they show in the form, unlike in Tiki 6, but at least the data will get saved (Tiki 8 will address presentation) | [10:53] |
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luciash | anybody merging 7 to trunk or should i port my fix in 7 to trunk ? | [11:14] |
jonnyb | hi luciash - you could do it :) | [11:19] |
luciash | now i see it's already done
fine if it was merged and i want to bp to 6 branch, do i specify rev number of the original fix in 7 or the rev of the merge ? | [11:20] |
jonnyb | the more people that can do it the better it is
http://dev.tiki.org/SVNTips#Update_from_Stable_branches it's the "fix conflict" bit that occasionally is a pain... | [11:20] |
luciash | yes
but now i need to know what rev num to specify if i am backporting to 6 from branch 7 and not from tunk as usual | [11:24] |
jonnyb | use the original commit rev (in 7.x) | [11:28] |
luciash | cool, thx | [11:29] |
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qb | cheers, is there any way to make tiki able to parse camelCase, as for default it seems to work only with CamelCase (first char has to be upper) | [11:32] |
CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03luciash * r34603 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-browse_freetags.tpl: [bp/r34505][FIX] Freetags: the clear button link onclick attribute needed "return false" to prevent going away from the page (while it just should clear the form input) | [11:33] |
luciash | qb: i fear u'd need to modify the parser in lib/tikilib.php
s/parser/"parser"/ | [11:33] |
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ricks99 | polom y'all | [11:37] |
qb | luciash, thanks, I will take closer look there | [11:37] |
jonnyb | hi ricks99 | [11:37] |
luciash | heya ricks99 | [11:37] |
ricks99 | anyone see the email I sent yesterday... regarding the problem with "&" in menu URLs (on doc.t.o) | [11:37] |
luciash | someone switched off fulltext search on doc ?
i saw that ricks99 | [11:38] |
jonnyb | ricks99: sounds like chealer's department to me :P | [11:39] |
ricks99 | can that be fixed before rc ?
kinda major issue? ricks99 thought it was a jonnyb-issue :-) | [11:39] |
luciash | chealer's escaping unit | [11:39] |
jonnyb | :) | [11:39] |
luciash | or squad ? ;) | [11:39] |
ricks99 | i'
i'll add to dev.t.o/tiki7 page, i guess | [11:40] |
luciash | ricks99: i also have something to edit tehre, editing it now ?
s/tehre/there/ | [11:41] |
ricks99 | no. go ahead. in fact, you can add my item if you want | [11:41] |
jonnyb | ricks99: i'm not getting & escaped on my menu item here, neither the url (correct) nor the label (incorrect) | [11:44] |
ricks99 | on an upgrade? | [11:45] |
jonnyb | no, just added a new one | [11:45] |
ricks99 | ricks99 wonders what is differnt on doc.t.o then
its an upgrade issue | [11:45] |
luciash | does this work for you ? → http://themes.tiki.org/Themes?find=theme&search=Search&exact_match=# | [11:46] |
jonnyb | maybe the pref menus_item_names_raw is on there (off here) | [11:46] |
luciash | in Chrome | [11:46] |
ricks99 | checking....but then it wouldn't have worked in 6 | [11:46] |
luciash | pls if u can test | [11:46] |
jonnyb | luciash: not showing any search results for me | [11:46] |
luciash | jonnyb: can u reinput in the search field and hit enter ? | [11:47] |
ricks99 | @jonnyb: y, it was off, turning on & checking | [11:47] |
jonnyb | yes, and it posts ok, but no results page | [11:47] |
luciash | jonnyb: that's the issue i meantioned for doc, but on doc it had changed in the meanwhile to tiki-searchindex search which works
jonnyb: i meantioned on the Tiki7 page | [11:48] |
ricks99 | @jonnyb: nope, still broken (on upgrade)
a blocker (imho) | [11:48] |
jonnyb | they should both be using the new unified search thing now, no? | [11:48] |
luciash | i think mysql fulltext search is the thing
which is off now on doc | [11:48] |
jonnyb | that should be off now, i thought | [11:49] |
luciash | yep, but it wasn't on the upgrade causing this search disfunction
which is now reproducible on themes | [11:49] |
jonnyb | checking settings on themes | [11:49] |
luciash | it is completely weird issue to me as gary told me yesterday it worked for him in Opera in any case | [11:50] |
jonnyb | looks right, maybe the index needs rebuiling - shall i click it?
rebuilding | [11:50] |
luciash | mysql fulltext is off on themes ? | [11:50] |
jonnyb | yup | [11:50] |
chibaguy | still tracking down the search problem?
very mysterious | [11:50] |
jonnyb | works when logged in for me
but as anon i don't get the "search" "titles" buttons of the autocomplete list | [11:52] |
luciash | jonnyb: also weird is on my localhost the buttons pop-up if i input something in the field and autocomplete works, but not on themes | [11:53] |
jonnyb | as anonymous? | [11:53] |
CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34604 10/branches/7.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Encourage header and footer content to widen when middle has wide content. | [11:53] |
luciash | as anoynmous on themes
on localhost i didn't try as anonymous, just a mom | [11:53] |
jonnyb | same on doc - ok logged in, bad as anon
fine locally though | [11:54] |
luciash | on localhost branch 7 it works for me as anonymous fine
sends me to http://localhost/tikibranch7/tiki-searchresults.php?find=test&boolean=on&boolean_last=y&search=Search&exact_match= though so my fulltextsearch seems on searchresults means mysql fulltext search, right ? | [11:55] |
jonnyb | i got sent to tiki-searchindex.php on localhost, my fulltext search is off
yup | [11:56] |
luciash | okie, so it seems to work fine for both cases on our localhosts
so is something breaking JS for it in between ? is the search completely JS dependent now ? i mean, shouldn't the search input field work even by hitting just enter on the field with JS off (extreme cases) ? | [11:56] |
jonnyb | no, the form should work without js still
isn't there a list pages perm? can't see one on themes (tiki_p_search is ok for anon there) | [11:58] |
luciash | so i wonder, why in the anon case on themes, it doesn't do action on the form sending to tiki-searchindex.php, but uses only the ?... part on the currently presented page instead ? | [11:59] |
jonnyb | and the same on doc.t.o
maybe more coffee will help... brb | [11:59] |
luciash | by the "?... part" i mean the "?find=theme&search=Search&exact_match=#"
yep, might be :D ricks99: sorry, didn't get to the Tiki7 page editing yet ;) bbl | [12:00] |
chibaguy | luciash (when you are back), I don't know what you mean by "it doesn't do action on the form sending to tiki-searchindex.php..." I get search results on tiki-searchindex.php when searching as anon at themes. Is that different from your experience? | [12:02] |
luciash | re :)
chibaguy: yes, me (and jonny) has different experience with WebKit browsers chibaguy: it works for you on enter key in Opera, right ? | [12:02] |
chibaguy | yes
btw, I just found at themes.t.o I forgot the closing {DIV} in the footer module. that' why the php error about smarty tag (bad copy/paste). | [12:07] |
jonnyb | error gone now chibaguy - ta | [12:09] |
luciash | chibaguy: ah, good catch
luciash added something to https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki7#Demonstratable_bugs | [12:09] |
Utopiah | hi #tikiwiki | [12:21] |
jonnyb | hi Utopiah | [12:21] |
Utopiah | so I just watched FLOSSS Weekly #146 with Marc Laporte wanting to know what tikiwiki is all about | [12:21] |
jonnyb | luciash: i'm geting the same search problem on themes.t.o in firefox | [12:21] |
Utopiah | I know a bit about wikis and have been using PmWiki for few years | [12:22] |
jonnyb | Utopiah: i still haven't got round to watching that - oops! :P | [12:22] |
Utopiah | so ... would it be fair to say it's a knowledge management web "distribution"?
jonnyb: well...it's a bit long :-# | [12:22] |
jonnyb | i gave up during the guy's intro - he went on for ages! | [12:23] |
ricks99 | Tiki is (IMHO) a wiki-based CMS. How's that? Short and sweet | [12:23] |
luciash | Utopiah: Tiki can be almost anything u can imagine running in your browser window | [12:23] |
Utopiah | ricks99: yes but I have to compare it a bit with what I know and for example PmWiki is minimalist,there is the bare diff and few options then the rest is delegated to plugins
jonnyb: right, you can skip to min5 or sth | [12:23] |
jonnyb | jonnyb hopes someone's taking notes for the new exhibition stand banner wording | [12:24] |
ricks99 | @Utophiah: If you want to compare just the wiki functionality, try wikimatrix.org
But Tiki is (much) more than "just" a wiki | [12:24] |
Utopiah | ricks99: well according to the interview that wouldnt be useful since it has everything built-in ;)
(reading http://dev.tiki.org/Hello+World ) | [12:25] |
luciash | Utopiah: that's for devs if you want to join us ;) | [12:29] |
Utopiah | luciash: yes, well I dont know yet that's why Im asking those questions :p | [12:29] |
jonnyb | looks like the search module issue is caused by the cacheing - set it to 0 on themes and it seems to work now... | [12:31] |
CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34605 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-user_cssmenu.tpl: [FIX]menu: do not put a link if there is no url on the section | [12:31] |
luciash | jonnyb: cacheing of what ? the module ? | [12:32] |
jonnyb | yes | [12:32] |
luciash | oh
jonnyb: yea, it works now ! seems Opera goes around the problem somehow providing its own caching mechanisms | [12:32] |
jonnyb | coo - weird | [12:33] |
luciash | coo coo, definitely :-p
jonnyb: will u strikethrough it on Tiki7 dev page ? | [12:34] |
jonnyb | just put the cache setting back on and it breaks it again - even after clearing the temp/cache (odd) | [12:37] |
luciash | hmm, seems modules caching bug ? or combination ? maybe with minify ? | [12:38] |
jonnyb | i think when the module is cached any js added to headerlib doesn't get cached also, although locally it seems to work... | [12:39] |
CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34606 10/branches/7.x/templates/modules/mod-search.tpl.nocache: [FIX] search module: Add nocache file as search requires javascript to be added via {jq} tags in the template which doesn't (yet) get cached for anonymous | [12:51] |
luciash | cool ! | [12:51] |
jonnyb | when i get more time i'll work out a way to cache the js as well,but that'll do for now
ok, i have to get back to my non-tiki stuff (all about pixels and memory leaks, what fun!) ricks99: hopefully chealer will be along soon, i'm sure he'll be keen to look into the menu encoding thing :P | [12:52] |
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luciash | jonnyb: thank you and enjoy your pixels | [13:10] |
jonnyb | thx - it's strange, haven't done anything non-web for years! | [13:11] |
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luciash | chibaguy: right column doesn't look right → http://themes.tiki.org/tiki-switch_theme.php?theme=clubcard.css
jfyi i see it's not updated since version 4 | [13:18] |
chibaguy | luciash, I need to make notes for that theme. It was designed for only two columns (left and center) in fixed-width mode. | [13:23] |
CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34607 10/branches/7.x/ (css/calendar.css templates/tiki-calendar_calmode.tpl): [FIX]calendar: calendar.css a caltable class + align middle the week number not to be aligned with day | [13:23] |
chibaguy | three columns are ok when full width | [13:24] |
luciash | ah
okie, or different perspective | [13:24] |
chibaguy | yeah, something like that. I did the wider three col version as a theme option originally, but figured it could work with the regular theme when full width. I should test it again probably. | [13:25] |
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luciash | chibaguy: made the carousel show on complete page load | [13:33] |
chibaguy | ah, ok, I was about to ask, when I saw you changed the page. | [13:34] |
luciash | chibaguy: it was weird when it displayed all in a huge wide row | [13:34] |
chibaguy | yeah, that was strange. So now it waits until all the carousel images are loaded? | [13:34] |
luciash | yup, until whole page loads as it does with every jquery block in the bottom of the html body on document.load
the trick is i did display: none by default for the carousel and show it then when it loads cheap trick ;) | [13:36] |
chibaguy | ah much nicer now, thanks. | [13:39] |
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luciash | now i wonder why every matching result of the search is there listed 4-times :-p →
http://themes.tiki.org/tiki-searchindex.php?find=strasa&search=Search&exact_match= | [13:41] |
lphuberdeau | luciash, good question there, go under admin > search and rebuild the index to see if that fixes it | [13:42] |
luciash | ok | [13:42] |
lphuberdeau | changi built the index yesterday and we ran into some issues, perhaps it didn't fully clean up between attempts | [13:43] |
luciash | i guess jonny already tried today but i will give it a shot anyway
rebuilding now | [13:43] |
lphuberdeau | should be just a few seconds on that site | [13:44] |
luciash | done | [13:44] |
lphuberdeau | the site does not respond at all from here strangely enough
ah, firefox restart fixed it | [13:46] |
luciash | yep, same here.... seems it has some problems after rebuilding the index
huh, really ? | [13:47] |
lphuberdeau | wow, those results look strange
it parsed some of em | [13:48] |
luciash | Chrome here... i wonder why would i need to restart my browser just because someone rebuilds his search index ;) | [13:49] |
lphuberdeau | firefox acts up like that
but chrome's dev tools don't come any close to firebug I also hate the user experience in chrome for some reason | [13:49] |
luciash | trying to restart my Chrome now | [13:50] |
fabricius | have to go - wish you all a nice day
fabricius checks out now | [13:55] |
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luciash | i wonder who invented that clever thing that after restarting my browser tiki doesn't remember me anymore
restarting Chrome didn't help ... the search is unresponsive now | [13:56] |
amette | A guy who wanted to make browsers privacy aware and called it a "Session Cookie" ;) | [13:58] |
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Bernard | Hey Amette ! :) | [13:59] |
luciash | amette: heh, but normal is that other browsers remember me well if i opt-in to :-p
err, s/browsers/sites/ | [13:59] |
Bernard | Hi All | [13:59] |
luciash | the remember me checkbox is only doing half-job if it requires me keeping my browser open for days to remember me
hi Bernard :) well, seems whole themes.t.o is kinda unresponsive now Internal Server Error :-p | [14:01] |
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amette | luciash: yeah, it looks like a broken feature, but kind of isn't
heya Bernard :) | [14:10] |
luciash | amette: i understand your privacy concerns but for home private non-travelling machines it is not useful "feature" but an annoying "bug" | [14:13] |
marclaporte | polom | [14:13] |
luciash | hi marc :) | [14:13] |
amette | luciash: yeah, I agree.. can't you set your cookies to not be purged after browser closing? and actually: how do the other sites do it that you use?
heya marc :) | [14:20] |
luciash | no idea, but Google, Facebook, etc. remembers me just fine even when i re-open my browser later | [14:21] |
amette | hmmm... I have the feeling that they do it only sometimes... I know that I need to re-login every now and then... | [14:22] |
luciash | anyway, it doesn't happen when i restart my browser as it does with Tiki :-/ | [14:22] |
amette | fact, yes :) | [14:22] |
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CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r34608 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: French translations done on i18n.tiki.org
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CIA-87 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34612 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-view_tracker.php): [MOD] Removing category leftovers in insert form | [16:38] |
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chealer | polom | [17:07] |
ricks99 | @chealer: i noticed an issue w/ Tiki7 on doc.t.o where, after upgrade, "&" in menu URLs were changed to & and the menu links now are broken
is this a parsing issue that you're familiar with? | [17:17] |
chealer | hi ricks99. yes, I was able to see it. but I never saw the problem before. the module is new and I'm not familiar with menu code, I just quickly escaped normal menus a while ago
the escaping is done in tiki-user_cssmenu.tpl and controlled by a preference | [17:23] |
ricks99 | works fine when creating a new menu item. but the module on doc was created in 6, then upgraded to 7 | [17:24] |
chealer | ricks99: hum, really...
ricks99: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/31608 says that menustructure was added to trunk 5 months ago | [17:24] |
ricks99 | y. i added it to doc when it was running 6 | [17:26] |
chealer | ricks99: OK, nyloth backported it in http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/32173 so it was in proposals/6.x indeed.
ricks99: good question then... | [17:27] |
marclaporte | marclaporte wants to use menustructure for suite.tiki.org but then, the forum link wouldn't be on the menu
Maybe a redirect would solve that... | [17:27] |
ricks99 | i added it as a blocker... just my $0.02 | [17:28] |
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chealer | ricks99: I see the same problem in proposals/6.x. are you sure it appeared with the upgrade? | [17:40] |
ricks99 | afaik it used to work on doc. i just noticed it recently on doc tiki7 | [17:40] |
chealer | ricks99: well in any case it must not be a blocker if it's not a regression | [17:47] |
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sylvieg | with the 'new' fetchAll how do I do a left join? | [19:03] |
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lphuberdeau | sylvieg: it does not do joins, only handles simple queries | [20:19] |
sylvieg | is it better to use the old function if a join is needed - or to add params to fetchAll? | [20:24] |
lphuberdeau | sed to do joins
it's not supposed to do joins, so you need to use the old functions it should not do joins either | [20:25] |
sylvieg | ok thx | [20:28] |
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lmnt | still trying to get ldap authentication to work with active directory - tried tiki 5.0 and tiki 6.0 - i get the same result
logging shows "bind successful" but the login screen gives me "invalid username or password" logging on the ldap server seems to indicate the bind is actual not successful i have run the troubleshooting script at http://doc.tiki.org/LDAP+authentication#Debugging and it seems to work i also have another php based app on the same machine that has a similar ldap setup and it works as well... any insight would be appreciated... ldap server is windows 2003 server AD | [20:56] |
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marclaporte | lmnt : what does the troubleshooting script answer? | [21:44] |
lmnt | well it just doesnt give me any errors
at least none that I am catching... it looks like it runs and then closes the connection | [21:45] |
marclaporte | I think script needs to be better with a description of what is happening | [21:46] |
lmnt | ok i did have to change one thing in the script this line: $dn = 'cn=username,dc=domain,dc=tld'; to $dn = 'cn=username,cn=users,dc=domain,dc=tld';.
if I run it without the added cn=users i get an AcceptSecurityContext error but I'm not sure how to relate that information to the setting in the tiki ldap setup fields... | [21:49] |
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marclaporte | lmnt : can you update wiki page with this improvement to the script? | [22:03] |
lmnt | facepalm - I didnt have create user if not in tiki checked... ug | [22:04] |
marclaporte | hehe
you got farther than I did with that script :-) | [22:04] |
lmnt | i just skipped right over that bold lettered statement in the documentation... lol | [22:05] |
marclaporte | go to go. Good luck! | [22:07] |
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