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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03xen216 * r34755 10/branches/7.x/styles/jqui.css: [FIX] added min-height to #topbar_modules to avoid overlapping elements in some cases	[05:08]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34756 10/branches/7.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Default minimum height in case only login, etc. (absolutely positioned) is assigned.	[06:37]
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TNRR	tiki 6.3: what's the easiest way to embed a music player on the side menu thru the modules? thanx	[09:20]
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chibaguy	polom Apparently it isn't possible to create a new directory in the tiki files and link to its contents from a wiki page? At least not when short urls is on. Tiki treats the directory name as a page name.	[10:25]
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chibaguy	Well, it could also be a server issue for me.	[10:31]
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chibaguy	..because of its being a pointed-to domain in a subdirectory of the main domain.	[11:27]
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changi\|away	chibaguy: on which website ?	[12:01]
chibaguy	changi\|away: on my own site, not public yet.	[12:15]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34757 10/branches/7.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_category.php: [FIX] category plugin: Allow "plus" characters required for multiple object types tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34758 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_category.php: [bp/r34757][FIX] category plugin: Allow "plus" characters required for multiple object types	[13:20]
chibaguy	I wonder how to get the "normal" history version comparison of a wiki page. The page content is inside an HTML plugin, but i want to see where I added some div tags. None of the diff view options (even advanced) shows the actual html syntax, so is fairly useless. Seems like the context of an HTML plugin should show as syntax, not as final display, in at least one of the diff options.	[13:30]
jonnyb	hi chibaguy	[13:36]
chibaguy	hi jonnyb	[13:36]
jonnyb	not seen that problem - doesn't the "normal" side-by-side diff show it? (as encoded html source)	[13:37]
chibaguy	Would "normal" be "Side-by-side diff"?	[13:39]
jonnyb	i thought so, normal for wiki pages	[13:39]
chibaguy	me too. I've got {HTML(wiki="0")}some html syntax, etc. {HTML} in a wiki page, and no actual syntax shows in the diffs, of anything within the plugin. I went through all the diff options. The site is several-days-old tiki 7. I'll try in the current branch files.	[13:39]
jonnyb	hmm, that sounds like it's changed somewhere - in the parser probably	[13:46]
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chibaguy	It seems ok in my local svn branch 7, so I'll update the problem-site files. Hopefully a false alarm.	[13:52]
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Manna	Hello all. Please, how do I change a child category to a parent ccategory?	[13:56]
jonnyb	hi Manna - on category admin, you can change the parent cat to "top"	[13:57]
Manna	what does that do to a child category?	[13:58]
jonnyb	all categories are child categories (children of "top") it just moves the category around in the category tree	[13:59]
Manna	ok, so I move the category to "Top" and it is no longer a child of another category?	[14:00]
jonnyb	yup then adding children to that would make it a parent	[14:00]
Manna	okay. thank you. One more Q, if you don't mind.	[14:01]
jonnyb	(although children can be parents too)	[14:01]
Manna	How do I un-inheret permissions form one grou to another? "from one group to another"	[14:01]
jonnyb	generally there's no "deny" mechanism in tiki perms, you can only "grant" permissions	[14:03]
Manna	So I would have t re do the group from scratch?	[14:03]
jonnyb	so if a group inherits from another it generally will get get more perms granted probably just change the inheritance, i think	[14:03]
Manna	okay. How would I do that?	[14:04]
jonnyb	in group admin (edit the group)	[14:05]
Manna	then click on what?	[14:05]
jonnyb	have you seen this? http://doc.tiki.org/groups and the page on permissions too what you click on depends on what you've already set up, i'm afraid	[14:06]
Manna	yes. That's what I've been seeing. In the original set up I had a button that said something like "group inherits permissions from" and a tick bocx. I am looking for a way to undo that. the admin groups section does not have it.	[14:07]
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jonnyb	when i edit a group in tiki-admingroups.php i see a list of groups titled: "Inherit permissions directly from following groups."	[14:13]
Manna	let me check for that....brb I have taht in a title but not in a place I can manipulate it. what am I over looking? It's not in the "object permissions llit" either 'list'	[14:14]
jonnyb	no, in admin groups click on the name of the group you want to edit	[14:19]
Manna	going there... Ah! I found it. Thank you. Tiki is such a maze! I can take it from here. Thanks again.	[14:21]
jonnyb	super - good luck!	[14:22]
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jonnyb	does anyone understand the category plugin?	[14:33]
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Manna	Question on login. Is it possible to set it up so that a user can log in with their email, password, and a code I give them...and another user can log in with their email, password, and a different code I give them, and each be taken to a seperate group/section?	[14:50]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34759 10/branches/7.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] categories: Fix getting multiple categories in "and" mode and stop ignoring maxRecords in get_categoryobjects (previous workaround)	[14:59]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34761 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: tikiwiki: [bp/r34759+60][FIX] categories: Fix getting multiple categories in "and" mode and stop ignoring maxRecords in get_categoryobjects (previous workaround) tikiwiki: Also partial bp/r32018 to handle an array of types	[15:31]
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Manna	Hello. please, How do I get teh admin page fromshowing up on evry body's log in? I mean the admin menu. It is showing up for registerd users	[16:03]
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jonnyb	Manna: it's a module - use the modules admin groups setting for that one	[16:05]
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Manna	jonnyb: thank you!	[16:05]
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Manna	I have assigned the Mnu modules to their respective groups, yet all three are showing up in a regestered login. The Guest Menu is only showing up for anonymous users-good. but when a guest registers they get the guest menu, the registered menu, and the admin menu.. What am I missing?	[16:14]
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Manna	in the admin menu parameters it says 'flip=y". What does that mean?	[16:19]
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xavi	polom anyone who succeeded using tracker item rating in 6.x?	[16:20]
jonnyb	hi xavi - no, not me - first time i used them was when updating them for 7	[16:21]
xavi	it doesn't seem to work for me in a new tiki (based on proposls_6x) :-/, but I gues it has been working for ages in dev.t.o using tiki6... hi jonnyb ok, thanks	[16:21]
jonnyb	i think there are two types in 6.x - it was all very messy	[16:22]
xavi	we are organizing better the in camps in squares in Barcelona and many other cities in Catalonia (at least) and I made a proposals of site with tiki6 with trackers to allow a decentralized way of aggregating proposals, and allowing the crowds (!) to vote on them.-... but the voting doesn't seem to work (even if it worked, afair, in dev.t.o/tracker5 ) anyway... "mi gozo en un pozo" (as we use to say)	[16:23]
jonnyb	:)	[16:24]
xavi	how are things going in UK/London? do you also have some campers in some squares in the city?	[16:24]
jonnyb	good thanks - warm here	[16:25]
xavi	:-)	[16:25]
jonnyb	"campers"?	[16:25]
xavi	warm today also here (after a rainy week) :-)	[16:25]
jonnyb	not really	[16:25]
xavi	hold on... http://takethesquare.net/ mmmm, and yes, there seem to be some occupied squares in UK. See: http://www.thetechnoant.info/campmap/	[16:25]
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Manna	Hello, please, I have assigned the Menu modules to their respective groups, yet all three are showing up in a registered login. The Guest Menu is only showing up for anonymous users-good. but when a guest registers they get the guest menu, the registered menu, and the admin menu.. What am I missing?	[16:43]
xavi	Manna: did you read the documentation about menus and modules? see https://doc.tiki.org/Menus and https://doc.tiki.org/Modules just in case	[16:43]
Manna	yes.	[16:44]
xavi	did you try as a non-admin registered user?	[16:45]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r34763 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl: [bp/31188]Added the share this feature to list file gallery	[16:45]
xavi	(I recall there is a setting somewhere that if enabled, it forces to show all modules to admin users)	[16:45]
Manna	they say to assign the menu modules to groups. Ihve done that	[16:45]
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Manna	I logged out and logged back in with a non-admin address to check.	[16:45]
xavi	jonnyb! the problem dissapears when I switch lang to English! :-/ @jonnyb: I guess there is some javascript weirdness due to apostrophes. Help! can you have a quick look?	[16:46]
jonnyb	ok - you have a url?	[16:47]
xavi	http://unaltremonespossible.org/Propostes @jonnyb: sorry, it's not in english (the content)	[16:47]
Manna	xavi: I logged in as a non-admin, yes	[16:48]
xavi	Manna: and?	[16:48]
Manna	xavi: I got all three menus	[16:48]
xavi	jonnyb: just switch lang (module on the right hand side, bottom). With english, the vote is shown, with catalan, it isn't	[16:49]
jonnyb	yes i see - odd	[16:49]
xavi	xavi doing a recap on Manna's problem Manna: let's see: admin menu: you should only select the "admin" group to that module, so that only admins can see that module this wya, when a registered (non-admin) logs in, he/she won't see that module	[16:49]
jonnyb	xavi: it's not a javascript problem - so not the usual {tr} quotes issue	[16:52]
xavi	and also, check that here: tiki-admin.php?page=module , you have this option disabled: Display modules to all groups always	[16:52]
Manna	xavi: I did that. . and I only selected 'registered' for the registered menu module, and I only selected 'anonymous' for the guest menu.	[16:52]
xavi	Manna: and for the module with the admin menu?	[16:53]
Manna	xavi: where will I find that "tiki-admin.php?page=module " is that in the modules section?	[16:53]
xavi	Manna, what's your url?	[16:53]
Manna	http://feelitreallyworks.terrificideas.net/ xavi: and I only selected admins for the application module	[16:54]
jonnyb	Manna: have you been to http://feelitreallyworks.terrificideas.net/tiki-admin.php?page=module ? you can get there from the main admin page too	[16:57]
Manna	going there now	[16:58]
jonnyb	xavi: looks like ratings don't work in anything apart from english	[16:58]
xavi	yes, jonny, I got the same impression :-(	[16:59]
jonnyb	can you try it in 7.x?	[16:59]
xavi	nope, sorry (I don't have that timeÇ). I should have been at the meeting today ... (if I hadn't found these issues) well, I can do a quick test on dev.t.o	[16:59]
Manna	xavi: got hte page up. nothing is checked.	[17:00]
xavi	Manna: sorry, no idea. I tried to register to your site, but email didn't arrive yet, and getting busy here. Sorry, and good luck.	[17:00]
jonnyb	ok, sorry i also can't get into 6.x trackers now - it's never trivial :(	[17:00]
Manna	xavi: have a miraculous day!	[17:01]
xavi	jonnyb, no problem. thks, same for jonnyb :-)	[17:01]
	jonnyb, it works in Tiki7 (in dev.t.o at least, once set in Catalan also), so unluckily, it seems specific from tiki6, which means that there are high chances that no one dares about it... :-/ s/dares about it/cares about it s/no one/just too few coders	[17:06]
jonnyb	it does seem odd no one's spotted this before	[17:07]
xavi	mmm, imagine the amount of things to spot on Tiki 7 yet....	[17:08]
jonnyb	jonnyb tries not to	[17:08]
xavi	that's why I do not plan to update in many months, if I can..., unluckily (I can't cope with the issues, and not knowing enough to fix them myself)	[17:08]
Jyhem	Hey guys!	[17:09]
xavi	and the good coders are too busy coding new features.... for the next big version (too frequently, imho) hi Jyhem	[17:09]
Manna	Hello, again. I just discovered that not only are the registered users getting the admin menu, they are also getting the full admin permissions! I looked in the 'users' section and they are only in the default registered group yet have full admin prmissions.	[17:09]
Jyhem	Jyhem agrees versions are too frequent	[17:09]
xavi	Jyhem: +1	[17:10]
jonnyb	if you can work out a better way i'd agree too	[17:10]
xavi	Manna: read this: https://doc.tiki.org/Permissions & revise your perms in your site (global and object's perms)	[17:10]
jonnyb	hi Jyhem	[17:10]
xavi	I offer money for coders willing to fix those annoying bugs in 6.x LTS	[17:11]
chibaguy	hello Jyhem	[17:11]
xavi	hi chibaguy !	[17:11]
Manna	xavi: thank you. will do.	[17:11]
chibaguy	hi xavi	[17:11]
xavi	but most coders are too busy with 7.x, and soon, with 8.x, etc. (and LTS seems to be mostly unattended)	[17:11]
Jyhem	@Manna : check that you don't have Anonymous as sub-group of Registered, or worse: Admins included in Registered hi chibaguy, Jonny, Xavi	[17:12]
chibaguy	about tiki 7 being rough, I think that was expected from the beginning, and that tiki 6 would be for most live sites. of course the bugs that come up that aren't part of the new features or revamps are a bummer.	[17:13]
	I was surprised to see a page appear in the menu that shouldn't have, according to the page's access permission, in a tiki 7 site. I need to update the site and try again.	[17:18]
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chibaguy	otoh, it's painful to work on site header things in tiki version older than 7 now.	[17:20]
xavi	:-D	[17:22]
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xavi	wohoo, chibaguy getting cloned! jonnyb, shall I do the same for you, so that we can have the help of 2 jonnyb?	[17:24]
chibaguytoo	xavi, I hope you make jonnyb's clone more productive than mine is. ;-)	[17:25]
xavi	;-)	[17:26]
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chibaguytoo	see, the guy just quit. I'll have to take over.	[17:26]
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jonnyb	:)	[17:27]
chibaguy	hard to get good clones these days	[17:27]
xavi	:-)	[17:31]
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Jyhem	then again, I'm sure you get them for free, so you can't complain :-)	[17:48]
xavi	jonnyb, I reconsidered my options... and I think that I will try a tiki7 with this site of mine	[17:48]
jonnyb	yay! you'll enjoy it i'm sure well, mostly :P	[17:48]
xavi	since that voting seems to work there... and that site is just a proposal... (even if I fear that there must be much less chances that everything works in Tiki7 than in proposals_6x....) xavi sad because he doesn't have shell access on that host ftp'ing is a slooow process (same for updates, etc.)	[17:48]
chibaguy	Jyhem, yes, that's true.	[17:50]
jonnyb	well, when it comes to trackers there may be a few bits broken worse, but there were so many little inconsistencies in them before that on the whole i think 7 should be an over all improvement	[17:50]
radek82	xavi: not even cpanel?	[17:50]
xavi	radek82: nope	[17:51]
jonnyb	plus, when we do identify a bug it's possible to fix it because there's only one copy of each piece of code now!	[17:51]
radek82	yeah, thats a PITA	[17:51]
xavi	jonnyb: well done, then! however, is plugintrackerlist available in Tiki7???	[17:52]
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xavi	or equivalent, but similarly documented?	[17:53]
jonnyb	yes, i believe so no, all the old plugins are still there i have a feeling there are some edge case pretty tracker issues deep in there somewhere, but i've never managed to track them down for new stuff though we're supposed to use the new {list} plugin, but i've barely had a chance to look at it yet should be about a million times faster than trackerlist	[17:53]
xavi	:-)	[17:54]
jonnyb	bye for now - maybe bbl	[17:55]
xavi	see you jonny	[17:56]
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Bernard	tiki-list_file_gallery.tpl rolledback on 7.x johnny… cu	[17:59]
chealer	polom	[18:01]
jonnyb	hi Bernard - thanks for that hi chealer	[18:04]
chealer	hi jonnyb.	[18:05]
Bernard	jonnyb: np, as i wrote my bad for 7.x. What is your concern about proposal ?	[18:09]
chealer	oops, have to leave already	[18:17]
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fabricius	Polom	[18:31]
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fabricius	fabricius is heading off again ... getting some beer and good music. cheers	[18:49]
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changi	need help what are the png specification for tiki icons ?	[20:17]
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coaboa\|afk	changi: sorry no idea. maybe some information at branding.t.o?	[20:35]
xavi	sylvieg, confirmed that it was it! you last commit (r34767) fixed the issue I noticed on 6.x! thanks heaps! bbl (dinner)	[20:42]
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tnrr	tiki 6.3: i have a tracker on a wiki page which has the tracker and then the list below. the list does not hyperlink. what do i need to do to make the list from the wiki page hyperlink. it does hyperlink from the tracker admin itself. thanx {TRACKERLIST(trackerId=>1,fields=>1:2:4:5, showtitle=>n, showfiledname=>yes, sort_mode=>lastModif_desc, status=>opc)}Notice{TRACKERLIST} is my code for the list on the wiki page if it helps	[23:45]
luciash	tnrr: there is show links or something parameter	[23:54]
tnrr	ok so i need to add this into the trackerlist coding?	[23:54]
luciash	tnrr: click on the little green puzzle icon above or below your wiki page, it will reveal the plugin helper icons then click the one next to your trackerlist plugin	[23:56]
tnrr	ok thanx brb doing such	[23:56]
luciash	it will pop up modal box with all the available params for the plugin	[23:57]
tnrr	that did it thanx! long time no chat haven't spoken since 3.0 days. u did some coding for me on the RR stuff tell whoever that the googlemaps deal IS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!! killer step up!!!	[23:59]

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