#tikiwiki 2011-06-08,Wed

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marclaporte	release release release! I smell burnt popcorn	[02:52]
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chealer	hehehe marclaporte: it seems for tiki.org the only sites left to upgrade to 7.x that we actually want to upgrade are branding and live	[03:51]
marclaporte	http://tiki.org/When+to+release+-+think+popcorn marclaporte just made Blockbuster popcorn 3 minutes 15-20 seconds more and it would have tasted bad (I think(	[03:55]
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marclaporte	branding can be a good 6.x LTS dogfood	[03:57]
chealer	marclaporte: OK, so that leaves live, and actually I completely forgot community (but I don't think we'll manage to upgrade community before the release)	[03:59]
marclaporte	ok what about info?	[03:59]
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chealer	marclaporte: rick said he wanted it to stay on 6, to keep it dogfood	[05:06]
marclaporte	ok	[05:06]
	chealer : like this? http://tiki.org/Domains	[05:13]
chealer	marclaporte: oh, that's great. I hadn't notiiced the link to that page	[05:19]
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Dwight	Hello I am using the memberpayment plugin. I am getting the error "The group does not have a membership term. Go to Admin > Groups to specify a term for this group by automatically unassigning users after a certain number of days" even though the term is set to 365	[09:55]
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SiL	hi there could i use the svn trunk for a productive site?	[12:05]
lphuberdeau	depends you need a good backup procedure and a test environment to test updates before doing them, it's mostly stable, but there can be some quirks	[12:07]
SiL	how should i set up a new site ... with the ability to get fixes into it easily	[12:08]
lphuberdeau	install with svn brb	[12:08]
SiL	from 6.x or trunk	[12:08]
lphuberdeau	trunk is 8	[12:09]
SiL	ah .. then i should use the tiki7 ... have to think about a bit more ... is there a svn for the upcoming tiki7? is this the 6.x ?	[12:09]
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SiL	should i use two different directories for svn and productive files ? and update them manually?	[12:20]
lphuberdeau	that would make it harder	[12:25]
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luciash	hi	[12:29]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34822 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 34821	[12:31]
chibaguy	I was wondering about the best strategy for using svn to update live sites, also. check out into the live directory? or have svn separate and export to the live directory?	[12:33]
lphuberdeau	most of the sites I work on just checkout the live directory	[12:34]
luciash	chibaguy: my strategy is 1) backup db 2) svn up --ignore-externals	[12:34]
lphuberdeau	if you have minor adjustments, it makes it easier luciash, I wouldn't use --ignore-externals on a production install	[12:34]
luciash	lphuberdeau: why ?	[12:35]
lphuberdeau	the code may well depend on changes in the externals ignoring externals is a good tip in dev to save time, but there can be repercussions	[12:35]
luciash	hmm, but it can cause also troubles when externals change and tiki is not ready to that ?	[12:36]
lphuberdeau	most of the externals are stored on tiki itself	[12:36]
luciash	like with the last jquery stuff update	[12:37]
lphuberdeau	otherwise they are on stable branches	[12:37]
luciash	which robert had to revert then	[12:37]
lphuberdeau	I didn't follow-up on that issue	[12:37]
fabricius	polom	[12:37]
luciash	hi fab	[12:38]
chibaguy	btw, hi luciash and lphuberdeau, and thanks for the info.	[12:39]
fabricius	hi luci	[12:39]
lphuberdeau	chibaguy: trim does a full backup (file+db), lock the site, update, unlock	[12:39]
luciash	chibaguy: well, it depends, sometimes i svn up only specific files i need with -rXXXXX chibaguy: on sensitive customized sites luciash never tried trim yet probably should ;)	[12:39]
lphuberdeau	well, not that you need to, but it does automate a few tedious things	[12:42]
chibaguy	ok, lots to experiment with :-). Not high-traffic sites, so I can play around some.	[12:43]
lphuberdeau	I don't use it as much to maintain live sites as to grab copies of sites and restore them in a test environment	[12:43]
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fabricius	is there any possibility, to get Tiki calendar events "taken" out of a Tiki installation for ex. by google calendars, without exporting and importing eachevent manually?	[12:55]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34823 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] Missing default for sefurl	[12:55]
fabricius	@ marclaporte: recently I've seen, that the french Tikisite requests for help in respect of hosting, gardening etc. - what is the problem?	[12:56]
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SiL	thank you guys for all information, will read the log and place a projekt plan for updating this tiki site ...	[13:13]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34824 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Modifying the item link field to store the itemId instead of the linked value for edit/display	[13:21]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34825 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-tracker_http_request.php: [FIX]tracker: dynamic field with hebrew value need not to be encoded to return the correct selected value in view item	[13:52]
lphuberdeau	does the "items link" have an other purpose beyond being the "reverse item link"?	[14:04]
sylvieg	I do nto understand btw lphuberdeau: the mandatory in dynamic list is broken in 7	[14:05]
lphuberdeau	jonny did that one and really, it's too late to fix anything in 7	[14:09]
sylvieg	ok sorry - fixed in the way ..	[14:09]
lphuberdeau	otherwise 8 will be released before 7	[14:10]
sylvieg	where do I commit? happy that the last one was only 6 is there a 7 proposals yet?	[14:10]
lphuberdeau	I don't think so that would arrive after 7.1 I'm looking at wikiplugin_tracker, could you explain me what line 1189:1192 is for? (ref trunk) I'm changing what item link stores in value to be the itemId instead of the value from the remote field	[14:12]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34826 10/branches/7.x/tiki-tracker_http_request.php: [FIX]tracker: fix optional/mandatory dynamic field	[14:14]
sylvieg	how the sort sort will work?	[14:15]
lphuberdeau	it would seem like it fetches the thing to store to initialize the form, but I can't really figure it out	[14:15]
sylvieg	sylvieg doing svn up	[14:16]
lphuberdeau	to sort, it should be possible to do a single join	[14:16]
sylvieg	it is why the value was there I suppose - to be able to sort or to use it as reference	[14:16]
lphuberdeau	right now, everything related to those field takes 3 joins plus there are issues when there are duplicate values... relation is not static	[14:16]
sylvieg	.. if if I use this field as the start of an item link - I need the value not the item - otherwise you will have to do again the 3 join	[14:17]
lphuberdeau	oh figured it... I can just replace that line with a single one ;) what do you mean?	[14:18]
sylvieg	if you begin not to have the real value of a field but the itemId or .. - it will be hard to sort + to use the field as a dynamic field for instance... perhaps the value of such field should be composite itemId and value	[14:19]
lphuberdeau	sorting is not such a hard issue the idea is to have itemId alone to be able to join easily and efficiently dynamic field I don't understand the issue	[14:20]
sylvieg	but what will you do for a dymamic or item link of another tracker that reference this field in the display list	[14:22]
lphuberdeau	I will probably rewrite significant portions of "items list", which will become more efficient with the change it really comes down to linking to a primary key rather than a random field	[14:22]
sylvieg	good luck - it is not simple at all - I remembered to discuss that with mose a long time ago	[14:24]
lphuberdeau	actually, it's almost done ;) edit/view is done, now I just need to deal with the other hacks in the code to get around that issue with the refactoring, it only required 2 files to be changed	[14:24]
sylvieg	witht the sort? with teh problem of display list? computed field if there still exists	[14:25]
lphuberdeau	dealing with those now, I refer to them as hacks collectively	[14:26]
sylvieg	but necessary hack I agree that itemId is a better idea - but what you win now by simplifying will be lost if you want no regression	[14:26]
lphuberdeau	the goal is necessary, not the hack	[14:27]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34827 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/greenblog_tiki_trunk/ (Readme.txt styles/greenblog.css): [FIX] Update module-related rules, etc. tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34828 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (13 files in 5 dirs): [NEW] Tiki 7 version of Faulkner and Green Blog themes.	[14:31]
fabricius	is there any possibility, to get Tiki calendar events "taken" out of a Tiki installation for ex. by google calendars, without exporting and importing eachevent manually?	[14:36]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34829 10/mods/trunk/Packages/ (2 files): [NEW] Package info files for Faulkner and Green Blog themes.	[14:37]
luciash	fabricius: i don't think so	[14:37]
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marclaporte	fabricius : we have no one in charge	[14:50]
fabricius	luciash and all: would that be a feature of common other cms, or more untypically? especially Typo3 marclaporte: I am thinking, if I could help somehow	[14:51]
luciash	fabricius: no idea i don't use other cms recently	[14:51]
marclaporte	http://tiki.org/When+to+release+-+think+popcorn marclaporte had fun writing that	[14:53]
overseer	hey guys. Do you know of a way to change the edit session timeout length ? I tried manually adding a value to the dropdown list in tiki-admin.php?page=wiki but when i selected it, it seemed to not do anything. Any suggestions?	[15:03]
fabricius	sry no idea overseer marclaporte: on the french Tikisite there is a remark, that they need hosting - is that sorted in the meantime	[15:09]
marclaporte	hosting is easy	[15:11]
fabricius	what you mean? easy = sorted or easy = you could do that easily? additionally there is technical and gardening vacant - what is the difference, respectively the responsibilities?	[15:12]
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qb	cheers, could any one tell me how to use different css for fancytable, for example I'm using coelesce theme, but I need some fancytables to be formated like in eatlon because they look much better on prints	[15:16]
fabricius	marclaporte: while the de.t.o seems to be quite good maintained by Oliver, I see a general problem with several forums and article structures	[15:16]
overseer	qb: do you have a public site? can you give me an example of what you want to change?	[15:17]
fabricius	qb: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginFancyTable&structure=Documentation+TOC -> headclass Any valid CSS class Applies class styling to the header rows optional perhabs that helps? or "taking" the related css form eatlon and add it to a coelesce custom version (coelesce-mycustomtheme.css) - at the bottom of the css file - or setup a css option for coelesce	[15:18]
qb	I have somethink like https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B78O3ZN5KEG5OWMwOGZjZWEtNjFlYy00Mjk2LThkOGYtMjViOTllOTZmNWZi&hl=en_US&authkey=CJ3P3LgC https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B78O3ZN5KEG5YTJiOTY0ODctMzM5Ny00NjlmLTgwODMtOGUxYWExNDlhMTYz&hl=en_US&authkey=CP-wuMwJ and need something like https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B78O3ZN5KEG5YTJiOTY0ODctMzM5Ny00NjlmLTgwODMtOGUxYWExNDlhMTYz&hl=en_US&authkey=CP-wuMwJ	[15:25]
overseer	fabricius: I'll let you help qb	[15:27]
qb	oh, in first link there were both links too...	[15:27]
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qb	I just need to have table borders for printing, there is headclass in fancytable, but I don't know how should I use it	[15:29]
HideMe	Can anyone point me toward a doc that will show me howto use anchors?	[15:30]
overseer	HideMe: how do u want to use them? You mean to link to them, or make an anchor on the pagE?	[15:30]
HideMe	overseer, I want to make a page that looks like themes.tiki.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=2 Don't understand how the anchors on the test work.	[15:32]
overseer	so, when you make a heading, using ! or !! or !!!, etc, it makes an anchor	[15:33]
HideMe	yes.	[15:34]
overseer	to link to it, use ALink: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginAlink	[15:35]
HideMe	how are they doing it on regular text? I'll check it out.	[15:35]
overseer	you might also be looking for: http://doc.tiki.org/PluginAname	[15:36]
HideMe	alink is enabled.	[15:37]
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qb	HideMe: or use {maketoc} or {TOC()}{TOC}	[15:40]
HideMe	qb yeah, but then the !header text is huge. I need regular size text. otherwise that'd be perfect	[15:42]
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qb	HideMe: it could be !!!!header - should be regular size I use {maketoc} for such things	[15:47]
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fabricius	qb: so the first pdf is a print "out of coelesce" and for the second you used eatlon?	[15:57]
qb	fabricius: yes, I miss borders I think, but I'm not sure how to add borders only to few of fancytables	[15:59]
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fabricius	aha qb you do not want to change the style of fancy tables generally, but for a certain group of fancy tables ...	[16:16]
qb	fabricius: exacly as some pages have to be printed so tables should be visible, while other tables are only browsed on tiki so should stay without borders as it looks a bit better ... for someone ;p	[16:19]
fabricius	Did you ever think about using the WYSIWYG editor for realising certain stuff? If it's just the tables for printing ... quite easy to use, but not both editors on the same page (no problem on the same site) we have a discussion on the editors running in the mailinglist actually	[16:22]
qb	oh, i will subscribe - i found my way - I inserted <style> for td and th in to html content of this page, and now all tables on it looks like they should when on other pages are without borders	[16:26]
fabricius	hmm that sounds smart - could you explain a little bit more detailed pls (I'd like to store that somewhere in the backyard of my brain - might need it lateron by myself)	[16:28]
qb	I just added {HTML()} <style> td {...} th {...} </style>{HTML} in to tiki source, and all tables on this one page started to use those settinges	[16:35]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34832 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Sorting for item link	[16:41]
fabricius	ah qb smart - thx	[16:46]
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chealer	polom	[17:12]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34833 10/trunk/lib/menubuilder/menulib.php: [ENH]menu: option subMenu to display only the submenus below an option	[17:19]
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sylvieg	did somebody run the indexation on doc.tiki - I can not find thing I am sure there are in	[17:28]
lphuberdeau	changi did	[17:28]
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sylvieg	a query sectionLevel des not find the page ((menu)) - even if I just edited the page.. but "sectionLevel" finds it ahah only when I type it in the top bar strange .. so the module has a problem but not the search	[17:40]
lphuberdeau	oh right, noticed that you kind of need to re-submit	[17:44]
chealer	sylvieg: see http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Tiki7&history_offset=1&diff_style=sidediff&diff_style=sidediff&show_all_versions=y&compare=Compare&newver=241&oldver=240&paginate=on&history_pagesize=50	[17:45]
sylvieg	it should not be hard to fix - first time I saw the problem the params are not the right ones	[17:46]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34835 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Modifying the items list field to work nicely with item link	[17:48]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: did you do or have a plan : how to represent the global characteristic of teh content to be use in the modules. For instance I want the topicId of the current article to show only the module articles with this topic?	[17:57]
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sylvieg	I think I can pick teh smarty topicId - but it is dirty	[17:57]
lphuberdeau	I am missing the beginning of your thoughts there	[17:57]
sylvieg	I want a module in teh column filtering according the contetn of the page ex:I display article1 with topic 1 - I want the module of the right ARTICLES(topic=Id=1) or a filter with the categ of teh object to put a param like topic=+topicId is only dirty	[17:57]
Rwik	Hey, I'm trying to figure out a way to disable (or at least greatly extend) the idle timeout when editing a page. Does anyone know how that could be done?	[17:57]
sylvieg	Rwik: it is mainly a php settings	[17:57]
lphuberdeau	you should be able to call current_object() and you will get the type/id of the object you are viewing from within the module but there is nothing for those kinds of conditions globally	[17:58]
Rwik	I have tried looking through the phps, and have tried making some changes, but I havent had any luck so far. Do you know which php, or what I should change specifically?	[17:58]
sylvieg	a google search http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=32849 Rwik: http://doc.tiki.org/General+Settings look for sessions thx lphuberdeau	[17:58]
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Rwik	so does "session" on that page refer to the edit session?	[18:01]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34836 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Filtering of items list	[18:04]
chealer	Rwik: it refers to Tiki's PHP sessions	[18:04]
lphuberdeau	rwik, enabling autosave should also improve the session duration by keeping the session alive, although I'm not too sure what's the state on that	[18:05]
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Rwik	ok. thanks for the info.	[18:06]
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mlpvolt	hello - tiki7 theme question -how do i change the width of the shadow (UL element i think) on the vertical css menu level1 flyout. seems like it is controlled by an inline style buried way deep. am i missing somehting?	[18:20]
sylvieg	mlpvolt: http://themes.tiki.org/Menu+styling and tehre is another page I think... better: http://themes.tiki.org/Horizontal+menu+text+styling	[18:23]
mlpvolt	there are some tips for css there but in this case the width is being controlled by an inline style somewhere in tiki-user_cssmenu.tpl - and there it is a variable from somewhere else.	[18:33]
	i can't see the inline style in "view source" - wonder why ie developer tools sees it.	[18:43]
chealer	mlpvolt: do you have an example menu where we see that shadow?	[18:46]
mlpvolt	sure - http://216.22.24.67/~highpro/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage	[18:48]
chealer	mlpvolt: Ooh, that's ugly. do we have such a menu on tiki.org? or how do you create one?	[18:50]
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mlpvolt	it is a css menu in a module. the same as fivealive, but vertical. there must be some jquery or something that is sizing the ul	[18:55]
chealer	mlpvolt: isn't that like the application menu module?	[18:59]
mlpvolt	yes it is.	[19:00]
chealer	I don't see any shadow in my application menu	[19:02]
mlpvolt	it should be there - just buried - when i look at a fresh tik7 install the drop shadow is there in the application menu how to recreate - take a fresh install of tiki 7, switch to skeleton theme. where would i find the jquery that is styling the menu?	[19:07]
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chealer	mlpvolt: oh, I do see it in skeleton mlpvolt: I see a 13.75 em mlpvolt: seems to be 11em on yours	[19:14]
mlpvolt	maybe that is after the margin - it must have been somethign that was hardwired for fivealive that needs to be customizable. (or i should give up and make my menuoptions wider. :) thanks chealer - will have to catch you later.	[19:16]
chealer	mlpvolt: I see stuff in tiki-jquery.js // superfish setup (CSS menu effects) if (jqueryTiki.superfish) { $('ul.cssmenu_horiz').supersubs({	[19:19]
changi\|away	are we ready for a 7.0 ?	[19:20]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Trackers - radio buttons to select different views - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41444	[19:25]
	New Forum Posts: Double Click to Edit - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41445	[19:35]
sylvieg	chealer: but I see the jquery is only the display on/off , fading...	[19:36]
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sylvieg	s/see/think	[19:38]
mlpvolt	lib/jquery/superfish/css/superfish.css is that it? gotta run ttyl	[19:38]
chealer	mlpvolt: no, lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js sylvieg: I see minWidth: 11, // minimum width of sub-menus in em units maxWidth: 20, // maximum width of sub-menus in em units CSS menus are buggy in skeleton	[19:43]
sylvieg	sylvieg thinks that css menu and tabs need a little more style in skeleton - Last time I spoke with Gary he told me vecause his style has its own rules...	[20:00]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r34837 10/branches/7.x/installer/schema/20101026_auth_token_add_columns_tiki.sql: [FIX] Difference between fresh install and upgrade from 6	[20:11]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34838 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-articles.php: [ENH]articles: if topicId=0, pick up the topicId of the current object	[20:12]
chealer	changi\|away: jonnyb asked yesterday. I think it's time. there are no fixes nor tiki.org upgrades promised for soon.	[20:22]
changi\|away	chealer: i'm on it but there are still some SQL fix to do from tiki3 to tiki7 we have problem and some update for keys are wrong will do that tomorrow see ya	[20:31]
chealer	changi\|away: do you have that problem upgrading to 6? that patch isn't new http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/24528/trunk/installer/schema/20100118_image_plugins_kill_tiki.php	[20:33]
nkoth	anyone knows which command handler could I specify to index image/png ?	[20:38]
lphuberdeau	that would require ocr	[20:41]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34839 10/trunk/lib/ (core/Services/File/Controller.php filegals/filegallib.php): [ENH] Use cache control headers to reduce bandwidth consumption	[20:41]
lphuberdeau	or do you mean metadata?	[20:41]
nkoth	metadata anyone else here using the "Upload Progress bar (Ajax/Flash (Browser-based)" feature? It doesn't work for me... (in 7.x)	[20:43]
lphuberdeau	for the metadata, lindon might know	[20:51]
nkoth	lphuberdeau: btw my pdfs don't look like they are being indexed, even though I had set pdftotext as the handler. and if I run manual pdftotext on the pdf I do get text.....	[20:52]
lphuberdeau	you shouldn't even need to configure anything for those in 8 beyond installing pdftotext	[20:53]
nkoth	under admin..file galleries... search indexing there is a "Missing Handlers" warning, and application/pdf is one of them with a warning If I enter MIME Type application/pdf System command pdftotext, then the warnin for that disappears	[20:54]
lphuberdeau	strange	[20:55]
nkoth	maybe the apache user can't execute pdftotext or something i jsut discuvered I can enter any garbage command and the warning will disappear	[20:56]
lphuberdeau	did you check if content got loaded up in tiki_files.search_data? also... check what the mime type is in there	[20:58]
nkoth	search_data is blank filetype is application/pdf	[20:59]
lphuberdeau	ok, then it's really pdftotext that can't be called actually, what you see is quite consistant with the behavior it will list missing types if it can't find the default handlers, including pdftotext but if you enter it manuall, it will trust you and shut up I have no special config for file indexing, uploaded a pdf and it indexed	[20:59]
nkoth	no worries I am checking ,	[21:02]
	ok, problem was cache	[21:14]
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sylvieg	fyi it is not because you add an handler than the search-data are refreshed... probably a bug	[21:19]
nkoth	how do i force index of files already in te file gallery after I install the new handler? search_data remain empty for those...	[21:20]
sylvieg	the refresh button after the handler table... sylvieg needs to work on this - because I have timeout regulary on refresh all	[21:25]
nkoth	tks. I thought I saw it somewhere...	[21:27]
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CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34841 10/branches/7.x/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX]category: to avoid flip/flop in category picker in unified search	[21:43]
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fabricius	I have a CSS problem with a custom menu - after a forum post (Tiki 6.3) in the german language Tiki forum I did set up a test-menu-module (CSS menu in custom module Tiki 6.1) whilst the application menu works fine, the custom menus subitems are cut off at the border of the module	[22:06]
luciash	overflow=y	[22:07]
fabricius	I did try some stuff in the css file - thought about ... yes, overflow	[22:07]
luciash	fabricius: try as param of the module	[22:07]
fabricius	in the css? I tried, but I guess I didn get the right selectors ahhhh thanks I will try asap ... NOW	[22:08]
luciash	with CSS you should be able to achieve that too but maybe need !important to override	[22:09]
fabricius	it works oh no, it works	[22:10]
luciash	?	[22:10]
fabricius	nopage=HomePage&overflow=y instead of nopage=HomePage just added &overflow=y and it works	[22:11]
luciash	i don't understand it works vs oh no, it works	[22:11]
fabricius	fabricius is giving a huuuuuuge hug to luciash and heads off to the forum, to tell the german lads who mentioned the problem	[22:12]
luciash	ok :)	[22:13]
fabricius	hehe luciash, that's kind of a funny insider ... we have kind of funny radio gags, where moderators of different stations call companies and make some fool out of s.o. and this one was a saxonian calling to media markt (a dealer of electricals and electronicals) the saxonian clamed, that the new video recorder, he bought before the weekend, still would not work he was so angry, that he wanted to through it out of the window and was reluctant to come back to the market to get help ... story went weird and weirder ... in the end of the day the saxonian (in his broad dialect) realised, that the only button, he did not push the last three days might have been the one switch to make the device running nuuuu nuuuuu I am getting craaaaasyyy the think works .... nu nuuu it wooorks. ...	[22:15]
luciash	i understand now :)	[22:20]
fabricius	it is an approximnate 4 minute youtube clip and every time I hear it, I am rolling on the floor laughing :-D so, now I have to tell the lads - brb	[22:20]
CIA-87	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34842 10/trunk/lib/core/Services/File/Controller.php: [FIX] Invalid preference check tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r34843 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/installer/schema/20110607_batch_update_tracker_item_links_tiki.sql: [ADD] Schema to update all trackers item link values	[22:26]
fabricius	done	[22:33]
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