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| chealer | how could fabricius fail to see the release party going on? | [01:49] |
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| marclaporte | marclaporte cheers sylvieg
marclaporte thinks pop corn is well cooked and we all deserve some rest :-) | [01:53] |
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| Tiki|bot | Info: Get Tiki 7, the latest from Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware - http://info.tiki.org/article167-Get-Tiki-7-the-latest-from-Tiki-Wiki-CMS-Groupware | [02:40] |
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| tnrr | tiki 6.3: what is the easiest way to add a yes/no button in a tracker (i guess i mean what do i put in the function area under radio button maybe?) thanx | [03:25] |
| chealer | tnrr: you put "Yes,No" as choices? | [03:27] |
| tnrr | ah, thank you! | [03:28] |
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| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34881 10/branches/7.x/installer/schema/ (2 files):
tikiwiki: [FIX] tiki_sefurl_regex_out UNIQUE INDEX left tikiwiki: Index would be missing or have wrong length (256) when upgrading from a site installed on Tiki 3 or upgrading from a site previously upgraded to Tiki >=4 (unless it was later upgraded to 7.0). tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34882 10/branches/proposals/6.x/installer/schema/20110610_readd_sefurl_index_left_tiki.sql: [bp/r34881][FIX] cleanup mess with tiki_sefurl_regex_out UNIQUE INDEX left | [05:17] |
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| Bernard1 | You better come home speedy Gonzalessss ! Hi good people ! | [06:36] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34883 10/branches/7.x/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: remove table tiki_poll_votes and column tiki_polls.anonym from r15709. tikiwiki: incompletely removed in r16610 and r16759, erroneously re-added in r31399/r31414 and r34871 tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34884 10/branches/7.x/installer/schema/20110610_revert_poll_additions_tiki.php: [FIX] missing svn:keywords Id. oops | [06:41] |
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| tikiwiki: 03chealer * r34886 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] typo in daysAtLeast name | [08:06] | |
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| Merbster | When writing a plugin. Does tikiwiki ONLY support returning a string with the HTML ?
I have a third party datagrid component. and when I dump it's "display" method into a string and try to look at it just contains the ~np~~/np~ stuff that I addded to disable wiki parsing. So I am assuming they are using either print to output HTML or just plain HTML mixed with PHP, instead of returning the string containing the HTML. | [08:43] |
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| jonnyb | polom | [09:09] |
| stix | How do I change which editor to use by default?
there's something about a new editor in 6.x, so I don't wanna use wysiwyg | [09:13] |
| chealer | hi jonnyb | [09:27] |
| jonnyb | hi chealer | [09:28] |
| Jyhem_w | hi jonny | [09:28] |
| jonnyb | hi Jyhem_w (coo, three Jyhems) | [09:29] |
| Jyhem_w | hey Jonny, you still present ? | [09:38] |
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| Jyhem_w | Jyhem_w down to 2 clones | [09:40] |
| jonnyb | still here Jyhem_w | [09:41] |
| stix | Guys. I am using strasa theme. In 4.2 I had created a custom.css to list items from categories i list-form. In 6.3 it seems like my custom.css is ignored. Why is that? | [09:43] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34887 10/branches/7.x/installer/schema/20110103_include_in_history_tiki.sql: [FIX] Use INSERT IGNORE to reduce installer errors | [09:54] |
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| SJ-Jay | Hey guys, can anyone help me with a questions regarding the user avatars? | [09:57] |
| jonnyb | stix: custom.css should still work in 6.3 - maybe the page structure changed a bit?
hi SJ-Jay - "Wanna ask something? Just ask." :) | [09:58] |
| stix | I found this: "Show one object per line. (default: n)" here http://doc.tiki.org/PluginCategory in stead
just what I have searched for earlier | [09:58] |
| jonnyb | tiki search should be lots better now (in 7.x) | [09:59] |
| stix | how can I take tikiwiki "down for maintenance" ? | [10:07] |
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| jonnyb | there's a pref on admin/general (i think) | [10:08] |
| stix | that's where I am trying to find it | [10:08] |
| jonnyb | try searching for "close" in the admin config search
tiki-admin.php?page=general&cookietab=3&highlight=site_closed in 7.x | [10:09] |
| SJ-Jay | where are the avatars saved? can i copy jpg images that are named after the usernames to the location?
and will tiki known which pictures to use? | [10:09] |
| jonnyb | SJ-Jay: i think you need to upload them via tiki for each user (but not sure)
they can be served "statically" (i.e. from a file) though do a search for avatar in your admin/config search | [10:11] |
| SJ-Jay | yep found it
but what do you mean by serving them statically from a file? | [10:15] |
| jonnyb | instead of "dynamically" out of the database (i guess)
think it was part of the firefox optimisations - so you can put them all on a CDN and reduce load on your database etc | [10:16] |
| sylvieg | hello | [10:18] |
| jonnyb | hi sylvieg | [10:19] |
| sylvieg | do we have redirection for wiki page non found?
found it in admin->general | [10:19] |
| jonnyb | good - thought so :) | [10:20] |
| sylvieg | but it does seem to work :-( | [10:23] |
| jonnyb | sylvieg: maybe you need to set up a 404 error thing on the server
(not sure what i mean by "though" though) try again: (not sure what i mean by "thing" though) | [10:28] |
| luciash | polom | [10:29] |
| jonnyb | hi luciash | [10:30] |
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| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r34888 10/trunk/ (61 files in 51 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 34852 to 34885 tikiwiki: Conflicts: lang/de/language.php and lang/pt-br/language.php resolved using "mine full" | [10:32] |
| jonnyb | reboot - brb | [10:36] |
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| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34889 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/litejazz_tiki_trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] More updating of page-top module area and menus, etc.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34890 10/mods/trunk/themes/litejazz_tiki_7/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Tiki 7 version of LiteJazz theme. | [10:58] |
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| sylvieg | Do we have a tiki7 proposals now? or are we still commiitting to 7 | [11:39] |
| jonnyb | hi sylvieg - straight to 7.x | [11:45] |
| sylvieg | thx | [11:45] |
| jonnyb | no proposals for 7.x at all i think, 8 should be the focus as soon as possible
we'll keep merging as long as possible - probably when that becomes too painful we do 7.1? | [11:45] |
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| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r34891 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-litejazz_tiki_7.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for LiteJazz theme (Tiki 7). | [12:50] |
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| Trebly | <anybody> Hi, I would want to know about the admin parameter "static files" and the url. Which are these static files that seem are able to be located on another url than the current application. | [13:19] |
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| stix | With the same LDAP settings in 4.2 and 6.3 - 6.3 gives all the users "ldap_bind() [function.ldap-bind]: Unable to bind to server: Invalid credentials" upon signing in
what's wrong? | [13:31] |
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| SiL3NC3 | HI All
have installed a new v7(svn-branch) site and cannot login with correct user password ... same problem with a second user manually added ... only if i reset the account password via the "password forgotten"-function, i get in, but after logging out logging in is not working anymore :( any1 an idea? | [14:06] |
| jonnyb | hi SiL3NC3 - not initially - what authentication are you using? | [14:12] |
| SiL3NC3 | tiki | [14:12] |
| jonnyb | hmm - not heard anything like that with 7 so far
"normal" LAMP server? | [14:12] |
| SiL3NC3 | jp
any apache2 modules needed which are not checked by the installer? mcrypt | [14:13] |
| jonnyb | hmmm, maybe | [14:13] |
| SiL3NC3 | can you please gimme a short hint, where to set tiki in offline (maintenance) mode? | [14:15] |
| jonnyb | can you log in as admin at all? | [14:15] |
| SiL3NC3 | only after resetting the password before
(validating via mail-link) strange ... | [14:15] |
| jonnyb | strange it works once... anyway, on admin/general there's a close site" option
(is this on a live site? best usually to do a test upgrade on a copy first i find) | [14:16] |
| SiL3NC3 | this is a fresh installed instance ... few minutes ago ...
for a new site so dont think about data loss ;) there are none yet | [14:18] |
| jonnyb | phew (sorry, you did say that first) | [14:19] |
| SiL3NC3 | ;) | [14:19] |
| jonnyb | do you have the mcrypt mod installed? | [14:20] |
| SiL3NC3 | i dont think so ...
now! :) | [14:20] |
| jonnyb | the other possibility is the php version maybe - 7.x needs 5.2+ but maybe there's something inbetween... | [14:20] |
| SiL3NC3 | ahhh
i see this php version is 5.3.2 i think this is the problem? | [14:21] |
| jonnyb | i don't have any *crypt stuff installed on mine, so it's not that | [14:22] |
| SiL3NC3 | ok (thanks for checking that) | [14:22] |
| luciash | 5.3.2 > 5.2 = OK | [14:22] |
| SiL3NC3 | i think, i read in the docs, that there are some problems using the 5.3
hm | [14:22] |
| jonnyb | locally i'm on 5.3.4 so should be ok
how about database encoding weirdness? anything funny going on there? | [14:22] |
| luciash | SiL3NC3: best is enable php error reporting | [14:23] |
| SiL3NC3 | already done | [14:23] |
| jonnyb | good point luciash - thx | [14:23] |
| luciash | and no errors reported ? | [14:23] |
| SiL3NC3 | but they are not seen at the closed site
:( | [14:23] |
| luciash | just doesn't let you in ? | [14:24] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 dont know how to reset password ...
nope no errors during installation ... | [14:24] |
| luciash | weird, if it is not public site yet, there's no reason to close the site | [14:25] |
| SiL3NC3 | absolutely no problems
wanna see the phpinfo ...? open basedir restrictions to deactivate ... are you guys gone? still there? PHP (5.3.2-1ubuntu4.9) ERROR (E_WARNING): File: lib/smarty/libs/internals/core.get_include_path.php Line: 34 PHP (5.3.2-1ubuntu4.9) ERROR (E_WARNING): File: lib/smarty/libs/internals/core.get_include_path.php Line: 34 | [14:25] |
| jonnyb | here but also busy | [14:33] |
| SiL3NC3 | ah ok ... | [14:33] |
| jonnyb | they sound bad | [14:33] |
| SiL3NC3 | i deleted the line within httpdinclude
but the errors are still coming up hm | [14:33] |
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| jonnyb | doesn't it say what the error is?
hi nkoth | [14:34] |
| nkoth | hi | [14:35] |
| SiL3NC3 | tmp | [14:37] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34892 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/ (64 files in 53 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 34861 to 34888 | [14:38] |
| SiL3NC3 | can this open_basedir stuff trick the login procedure? | [14:41] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34893 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/installer/schema/20110607_batch_update_tracker_item_links_tiki.sql: [KIL] Replaced by a PHP version | [14:42] |
| jonnyb | shouldn't be - did you uncomment the php include path line in htaccess that helps with openbasedir? | [14:42] |
| SiL3NC3 | no, the message still appears (also after restarting apache server)
damn ... i want to start building the site ... it have to be online within a few days ... :( | [14:43] |
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| jonnyb | still no clue as to what the errors are? | [14:44] |
| luciash | it is generally better if open_basedir restrictions are off iirc | [14:45] |
| SiL3NC3 | i think this is a security setting ... let me check the httpd include another time | [14:45] |
| jonnyb | what is the httpd include? | [14:45] |
| SiL3NC3 | the configuration file of the root server ... | [14:46] |
| luciash | also i noticed u use https, do you have https login enabled ? | [14:47] |
| jonnyb | ah, ok | [14:47] |
| SiL3NC3 | maybe i edited the wrong file ...
SiL3NC3 wondering | [14:47] |
| luciash | or can you test without ? | [14:48] |
| lorinc | hi
tw.o is down: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_SL in /var/www/tikiwiki.org/index.php on line 2 | [14:49] |
| Tiki|bot | tw.o or t.o is just a shortcut referring to the official website of the project: http://tiki.org | [14:50] |
| jonnyb | thanks lorinc - that looks "wrong" | [14:51] |
| luciash | someone should poke ohertel | [14:51] |
| jonnyb | luciash: sending a mail | [14:52] |
| luciash | tks | [14:52] |
| SiL3NC3 | http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t158406-parse-error-unexpected-t_sl.html
maybe a whitespace ... | [14:53] |
| jonnyb | http://tiki.org/tiki-index.php seems slightly better - looks like it's been upgraded to 7.0 - hopefully ohertel is on the case... | [14:54] |
| luciash | have to change AT power supply in my router... will be back later | [14:55] |
| lphuberdeau | well, he must have touched something... parse errors don't just magically appear in files | [14:56] |
| jonnyb | i think t.o has a trick index.php (seem to recall) - looks like it's been upgraded but the db updates not done yet
(would be a good time to use the "closed for maintenance" feature :P back soon... | [14:57] |
| nkoth | well can't get in... | [14:58] |
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| nkoth | but actually i think closed for maintenence feature is no help in such situations (it happens after index.php) | [15:01] |
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| nkoth | SiL3NC3: check if your disk is full. check if changing "Encryption method:" in Admin...Login helps, ... | [15:08] |
| SiL3NC3 | so, get rid of the open_basedir stuff (just deactivated)
now the errors are gone but login isnt working at all ... i check the tiki settings ... | [15:09] |
| nkoth | Sil3NC3: this is a new site with no real users yet right? I am not sure if changing that setting affects past users | [15:11] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: right
nkoth: we are talking about fresh installed instance 2users (one added manually for testing) | [15:11] |
| nkoth | also check (just in case but I doubt it) that the passwords you are using meet the settings there, e.g. mi 5 characters | [15:12] |
| SiL3NC3 | md5 need a php5 package to be installed ...
right? no SiL3NC3 gets silly | [15:13] |
| nkoth | I think it doesn;t have to be installed separately | [15:14] |
| SiL3NC3 | also changing to DES crypt - no login | [15:18] |
| nkoth | try tikihash, but anyway when you say no login, does it say "invalid password" or not? | [15:19] |
| SiL3NC3 | nothing ...
just the login box comes up ... no error ... | [15:19] |
| nkoth | the last time this happened to me I was low on disk space | [15:19] |
| SiL3NC3 | i can try a wrong passwort ... if it is of interes | [15:19] |
| nkoth | sure, try that | [15:19] |
| SiL3NC3 | also no error message | [15:20] |
| nkoth | also did you change some of the more idiosyncratic session seetings in PHP ? | [15:20] |
| SiL3NC3 | just "reload"
tiki-login_scr.php | [15:20] |
| nkoth | it looks like a PHP session persistence issue | [15:21] |
| SiL3NC3 | it would be helpful to get $_POST[] data listed in the php errors section | [15:21] |
| nkoth | but you say you can login through forgot pssswrd? | [15:22] |
| SiL3NC3 | Browser Cookies: | [15:22] |
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| SiL3NC3 | runs_before_js_detect
1339249916 | [15:22] |
| marclaporte | polom | [15:22] |
| jonnyb | polomarclaporte | [15:22] |
| SiL3NC3 | what does that mean?
polo ? | [15:23] |
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| jonnyb | short for polom (saving bandwidth :D ) | [15:24] |
| SiL3NC3 | and what much of it ;) | [15:24] |
| jonnyb | hi Trebly_ | [15:25] |
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| SiL3NC3 | do i have to change the password (after changing the crypt setting) ? | [15:25] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb> Hi, Jonny | [15:26] |
| nkoth | SiL3NC3: posibly, but your problem is not this because you should see "Invalid Password" if the pw is wring | [15:26] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 *arrrgh*
okay ... | [15:26] |
| nkoth | try changing the eror reporting to everying including non-admins | [15:27] |
| SiL3NC3 | seems that the script i talking a wrong way ... ?!
already done no more errors are coming up noe now | [15:27] |
| nkoth | I see, right | [15:27] |
| SiL3NC3 | let me check, that all errors are shown up ...
i also do activate the smarty errors, that we see something ;) ahh PHP (5.3.2-1ubuntu4.9) NOTICE (E_NOTICE): File: templates_c/de^%%DD^DD2^DD29EF94%%tiki.tpl.php Line: 191 | [15:28] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb><marclaporte> Hi, I would want to know about the admin parameter "static files" and the url. Which are these static files that seem are able to be located on another url than the current application.
This is in the context of multithreading on server to optimize the treatment time, I have still problems | [15:29] |
| nkoth | Sil3NC3: i doubt the smarty notices mater | [15:29] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: me too | [15:30] |
| nkoth | have you checked disk space yet? | [15:30] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: could be a charset problem ...
nkoth: this is a fresh installed vserver nkoth: no quota settings | [15:30] |
| nkoth | run "df" on the linux command line | [15:31] |
| jonnyb | Trebly: that sounds like the CDN feature - which is all a mystery to me, i'm afraid | [15:31] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: df use 3% | [15:31] |
| nkoth | SiL3NC3: have you installed tiki6 or before on this server? | [15:32] |
| marclaporte | I am updating from pre 7.x to latest 7.x and I see 7 changes in SVN with respect to SQL files. Is this normal? | [15:33] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: nope, installed a 7.x branch svn
nkoth: about 1 hour ago | [15:34] |
| jonnyb | marclaporte: probably - i added a minor fix to one today and i think chealer fixed a couple recently too
just to reduce the ignorable installer errors (not worth adding a new schema) | [15:35] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: running svn update to check for changes | [15:35] |
| nkoth | well, the only other thing I can suggest is to check the file perms on your folders
you wouldn't happen to be running SELinux on this server also right? | [15:36] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: did that setup.sh thingie
nkoth: no changes (the current 7.0 svn version installed) | [15:37] |
| nkoth | I suppose you can also try clearing the Tiki cache and restarting apache but I think you already did this both | [15:38] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: no other results ... :(
but the smarty messages gets much more ! Undefined indexes lots of them | [15:40] |
| nkoth | that's common - not part of the coding standards so it always happen | [15:41] |
| SiL3NC3 | but a strange filename, isnt it? | [15:41] |
| nkoth | cached files | [15:41] |
| SiL3NC3 | File: templates_c/de^%%9E^9E2^9E21ED1B%%mod-login_box.tpl.php
(for exampe) ah ok .. *understand* | [15:41] |
| nkoth | what kind of server OS is this? | [15:42] |
| SiL3NC3 | what about those tiki-tests ? did they can help out ?
ubuntu | [15:42] |
| nkoth | the admin user also cannot login right? (You had to use forgot password?) | [15:43] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: japp | [15:44] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb>You are right and it is for me too a mystery. I have not for the next 3 weeks a good access and I can't make test, my server is alone at 215km from Paris. And I could not well implement Team Viewer and automatic reset of my server, is running (sends information mails) but I can't access. You know that with OVH in shared servers I can't have tools for debug.
I would progress in the time treatment, I have some elements of statistics and it exist, in my opinion, several problems. | [15:44] |
| jonnyb | Trebly: is this to address the really bad performance you were reporting a while ago? (i guess) - i think there must be something else wrong with the server setup to get such slow page loads - CND probably wouldn't fix that
or even CDN :P | [15:46] |
| SiL3NC3 | nkoth: GOT IT! | [15:47] |
| jonnyb | (the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament wouldn't help either)
yay SiL3NC3 - what? | [15:47] |
| SiL3NC3 | so silly i was ...
i have added some lines to the htaccess file to automatically redirect to https ... and stucked the login ... :) | [15:47] |
| nkoth | doh, I see, yes I should have thought of that. | [15:49] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 is cheating itself ... haa haa
thanks guys for staying with me ... and sorry | [15:49] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb was going to suggest SiL3NC3 added something to http://doc.tiki.org/troubleshooting but not sure that's relevant now...
:) | [15:50] |
| SiL3NC3 | nobody is perfect, but we are f**king close ;)
good point to look at ... sorry again dudes | [15:50] |
| nkoth | anyway this is not as bad as the time I spent one day trying to solve total weirdness on my systenm before find out the problem was that the clock had resetted to some ancient time | [15:51] |
| SiL3NC3 | boahhh
thats hard ... | [15:52] |
| jonnyb | we've all lost hours to the "stop it working" option we set the day before and then forgot - part of server admin fun! | [15:52] |
| SiL3NC3 | if you don't have any pressure on what youre working on ... it will indeed is fun ... ;) | [15:53] |
| jonnyb: should i edit the troubleshooting page? (# Have you added any custom entries to the .htaccess file? (remark them and try again))
jonnyb: just have to press save ;) | [15:58] | |
| jonnyb | yes please, sounds like a good tip | [15:58] |
| SiL3NC3 | done
yes, i also think, this is veeeery important place to look at strange behaviors | [15:59] |
| jonnyb | thank you | [16:00] |
| SiL3NC3 | because which setting of this complex htacces causes the problem is not handled by php or error messaging ;)
(so better this file should in most cases be DEFAULT!) *sharpmirrorlooking* i would also add a line at the point "Locked out of Tiki" (because this was my problem) | [16:00] |
| Trebly | <jonnyb> OK, but the problem of bad performance is not only on my server. I have made a lot of test, myself and by a friend (to not use the same ADSL line, to transmit and get).
with 6.x (6.3) or 7.x (7.0b2) when I connect to the homepage for visitors, I get on OVH 0.90s time and on my server 1.7s it is good. If I just login in automatic (cookie) to homepage defined for admins groups the ration of time between OVH and my server is stable but the exec time on OVH increases to 12,5s (on my server 23s). This is too much (and we observe the same time to simply change of page in a wiki). There is a trik somewhere, not in the server parameters but in the tiki parameters that I define into my application. I try to locate it For the moment I have not been successful in Eclipse implementation (no time and can't run on my portable because of lack of memory 2Go on XP). So I could not test if the tools to analyze the treatment time form files generated by Xdebug, and I don't know if they are available on windows. | [16:03] |
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| jonnyb | have you got a lot of modules set up? the calendar is generally very slow for instance | [16:05] |
| jolly_ | can anyone tell me how to enable tiki to permit sign up from others that view the site? | [16:05] |
| jonnyb | in 7.x in admin modules when you mouse over each module it reports the execution time in a tooltip
jolly_: admin/login | [16:06] |
| jolly_ | cant believe i missed that | [16:08] |
| jonnyb | :) sorry that was a bit terse - more here | [16:09] |
| nkoth | The search box on top of doc,tiki.org is not really working in that I have to reclick on search in the search interface to effect the search. I overheard this discussed a couple of days ago by sylvieg/lphuberdeau. Is there a quick fix other than removing the box? | [16:09] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte gets a blank page at http://tiki.org/Domains | [16:09] |
| jonnyb | jolly_: sorry, actually not much more at all there
i like that: "There are other options as well" marclaporte: seems ok to me (logged in) | [16:09] |
| marclaporte | looks like when there is an upgrade, cookies/sessions cause weirdness
marclaporte can't fix footer via https://tiki.org/tiki-admin_modules.php | [16:10] |
| jonnyb | my login there seemed to survive the upgrade (maybe the caches didn't get cleared or something?) | [16:11] |
| marclaporte | perhaps. maybe php installer/shell.php should clear all caches? | [16:12] |
| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 ,too | [16:13] |
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| Trebly | <jonnyb>Yes, I have the calendars, I will make test from now during the next weeks.
Nevertheless I wonder if Future enhancement could not be to make so tiki will hold multithreading. This could, may be, done using ajax. Actually an http request uses only one core of a processor. So if we have multiprocessors, we are just able to answer to multiple requests. Note :The difference between OVH and my server is that I am with a CORE2 quad at 3.0 GHz while OVH is running XEON, the ration is quite giving by benchmarks of processors. I come back to multithread : It is possible that the ajax request could run a new tread on a second core, and so on. Then if for example we use ajax to fill a calendar we get parallelism. The idea is then to always fill modules data and upgrades of these data with ajax features. I began a few month ago to make this to change pages of articles. I had no time to end but I could create new div... ...id for the summary and for pages. So with a calculated id I could get only the content of a page jumping on a lot of treatments. The whole structure of module don't change, just update the text of the page of the article. Very fast. | [16:24] |
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| marclaporte | can someone use the community site as anonymous?
I have a blank page with only this in the source: <div id="bot_logo_code" style="display:block;"> | [16:28] |
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| jonnyb | marclaporte: yes, me too (odd) | [16:30] |
| marclaporte | I suspect I broke it | [16:37] |
| jonnyb | shocking | [16:37] |
| marclaporte | I was trying to clean up footer links which didn't upgrade quite right | [16:38] |
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| jolly_ | ok got the reg open for the public but now theres no content that they can see or add,
pretty much want this as simple for them as wikipedia anyone have a solution? | [16:40] |
| jonnyb | jolly_: you need to set up the permissions - did you use a profile to set this up? (you could try the community one maybe) | [16:47] |
| jolly_ | i have no idea how to get there since i edidted the main page | [16:47] |
| jonnyb | go to admin/profiles | [16:48] |
| jolly_ | should i grab the full profile | [16:49] |
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| SiL3NC3 | SiL3NC3 gets a blank page at http://tiki.org/tiki-forum_rankings.php | [16:55] |
| jonnyb | SiL3NC3: t.o is being upgraded - expect some issues for a while | [16:56] |
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| SiL3NC3 | this issue also exists on the fresh install im working on
btw | [16:57] |
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| Trebly | <jonnyb> I made test to just put away the two calendars (general and events) modules the execution time decreases from 12.5s to 1.5s. So to display the two calendars, it uses quite ten times more than the whole tiki panel treatment.
I do believe that this must be optimzed. I will make test with 7.x and look if something as been made. It was a part of my project, I had no possibility to work on in good condition during winter till know. Do you think that the use of ajax to fill modules is a valid way to update the data of a page separately for each module and to get a multithreading when treatment are heavy ? | [17:00] |
| jonnyb | the calendars need some serious optimisation for sure (by serious i mean funded)
i guess you could use custom modules with ajax stuff in to let the page load around them first - would be an improvement sorry - go to go (cooking duties) more later... | [17:01] |
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| jolly_ | can someone reccomend another wiki script, one that doesnt require so much effort to work like a wiki?
been at this for 8hrs now and im just tired of it | [17:07] |
| ok guess its time to uninstall and find something else. thanks? | [17:14] | |
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| overseer | hey guys, i got two questions
firstly, when im setting up a backup for my tikiwiki installation, should I back up the entire tikiwiki directory? (ie: all the php scripts, and all it's subdirectories) and secondly, how do I go about suggesting a feature? | [17:56] |
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| TheOnlyMerlin | Hello | [18:00] |
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| ohertel | Hello! | [18:06] |
| chealer | polom, hi ohertel! | [18:08] |
| ohertel | so any ideas whats broken with 7.x? blank page on tw.o now. :( | [18:08] |
| chealer | blank pages with "<div id="bot_logo_code" style="display:block;">"
ohertel: do with have error reporting enabled? ohertel: do we have error reporting enabled? | [18:09] |
| ohertel | maybe someone added some shit into the header?
think so. | [18:09] |
| chealer | overseer: use the bugs and wishes tracker on dev.tiki.org
ohertel: what level is it set to? is PHP display_errors enabled (guess not, and I guess we don't want it permanently but this calls for it) | [18:09] |
| ohertel | I think it breaks before. | [18:11] |
| chealer | overseer: there is no need to back up the software unless you customized it. if you lose the stock software, you can simple download it again | [18:11] |
| ohertel | but there is no output in apache or php log. | [18:11] |
| chealer | ohertel: before what? | [18:11] |
| ohertel | before sending out the error data. ^^ | [18:12] |
| chealer | ohertel: the Tiki error reporting? presumably so we should check the PHP configuration, display_errors and error_reporting | [18:13] |
| ohertel | error_reporting = E_ALL | [18:13] |
| damn shit, i hate it if stuff just doesnt work without any error output. | [18:18] | |
| chealer | ohertel: you're not alone. I had that a couple of weeks ago, then the error just went away...
ohertel: so what about display_errors? | [18:19] |
| ohertel | what's this bot_logo_code div from?
The stuff is usually enabled, I didnt change it. | [18:19] |
| chealer | ohertel: if display_errors is usually enabled, that's not great in production | [18:20] |
| ohertel | I think it gets overridden by tiki settings. | [18:20] |
| chealer | ohertel: bot_logo_code is a new user module in Tiki 7
(see patch 20110201) ohertel: it shouldn't. error_reporting but not display_errors | [18:22] |
| ohertel | where do I find that module?
I get errors with an invalid test php: http://tiki.org/x.php but nothing at all from tiki. | [18:25] |
| chealer | ohertel: in tiki_user_modules I guess?
ohertel: comment the set_error_handler() in lib/setup/error_reporting.php | [18:33] |
| ohertel | I think we should add stuff like ./debug.sh on|off to make debugging of a broken/not working easy to handle. | [18:38] |
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| ohertel | Fatal error: Smarty error: [in evaluated template line 1]: syntax error: unrecognized tag: DIV(class="clearfix twfooter")
we got a broken template | [18:46] |
| chealer | HUM - could the DIV plugin be disabled :-? | [18:47] |
| ohertel | Tiki should NOT stop working just because a plugin is disabled ... | [18:47] |
| chealer | preference wikiplugin_div
ohertel: I don't think that's a template, that looks like custom Smarty I would search that in the database | [18:48] |
| ohertel | I disabled user modules manually for now so I can log into tiki. ^^ Where is that in the admin pages again? ;) | [18:50] |
| chealer | ohertel: the trace shows it's in a user module, presumably one in the footer
ohertel: "Your database requires an update to match the current Tiki version" | [18:51] |
| ohertel | hm, 'div' is active ...
It ran all the scripts.... | [18:51] |
| chealer | ohertel: indeed. a module that needs wiki parsing must be only Smarty-parsed
ohertel: are you sure? what does $ php installer/shell.php; output? ohertel: (maybe it tried all but failed on one) | [18:53] |
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| mheller | palomb
I can't log in to dev.tiki.org, so I'm reporting a few problems here | [18:54] |
| chealer | ohertel: the guilty code is in bot_logo_code | [18:55] |
| ohertel | yah, where is that? | [18:55] |
| chealer | ohertel: the user module | [18:55] |
| mheller | Issue: can't login to dev.tiki.org, error is XMLRPC Error: 2 - Invalid return payload: enable debugging to examine incoming payload | [18:55] |
| chealer | ohertel: "Must be wiki parsed." is not checked | [18:56] |
| ohertel | mheller: tw.o has trouble | [18:56] |
| mheller | Issue: {INCLUDE(page=>Dynamic Filter)}{/INCLUDE} doesn't work on https://dev.tiki.org/Search+Bugs | [18:56] |
| chealer | ohertel: checking that should fix, though we'd need to understand why the upgrade caused that (after we figure out the database issue I guess) | [18:57] |
| ohertel | database is up to date now.
Where do I find the user modules now in tiki menu? grrr | [18:57] |
| mheller | Issue: on my site (wiki.alphasoftware.com) running 7.0, there are still PHP notices in lib/core/Perms.php about Undefined index: permName, lines 183 and 227 | [18:59] |
| chealer | mheller: hum. indeed.
yet INCLUDE is enabled. anyone has an idea. syntax seems valid ohertel: still in Admin Modules, second tab | [18:59] |
| ohertel | I have no adminmodules visible, as I disabled the modules stuff so I can log in to tiki.
full url would be nice. :P | [19:00] |
| chealer | ohertel: tiki-admin_modules.php
ohertel: good, thanks. what was it? | [19:00] |
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| ohertel | Ok, works again after enabling wiki parsing.
Hope all is fixed now. | [19:02] |
| chealer | ohertel: thanks. obviously the footer will need some work | [19:03] |
| ohertel | Yah. And a minimal admin-login page would be nice too, without any includes and libs ...
where you just get some single command like: set preferences key x to y... ;) | [19:04] |
| chealer | ohertel: does tiki.org update automatically? there's a pretty ugly forum bug we'll have on 7 now when creating a topic: http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum.php?forumId=3 | [19:06] |
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| ohertel | half manual | [19:06] |
| chealer | hope that will be fixed soon and deployed to tiki.org soon
(super small textarea) | [19:06] |
| ohertel | first I switch branch, then do svn up, and then run update script that sets perms, backups database and imports sqls. | [19:07] |
| chealer | ohertel: "imports sqls"... that means you run installer.php, no?
ohertel: OK, I'll take that as manual :-) some tiki.org sites are updated automatically about every day. ohertel: I'll try to tell you when the forum issue is fixed | [19:08] |
| doh123 | I'm a rather new tiki user and was having some issues, and most of the forums links and such on the website don't appear to be working... and was having some trouble on my website, and wondering where I may be able to get some info... just using normal 6.3 | [19:09] |
| chealer | doh123: forums should work better since about 10 minutes | [19:10] |
| ohertel | doh123: we just need to fix an issue on tw.o. try again. :)
needed | [19:11] |
| doh123 | forums link just links ot a blank page | [19:12] |
| chealer | doh123: could you give an example? | [19:12] |
| doh123 | my main problem is... my buttons on my tiki site addin extra URL info.... and I hav eot manually use URLs
like if I hit to edit a wiki page its going like.... "http://myurl.com/tiki-index.php/tiki-editpage.php?page=Page+Namer" i have to manually remove the tiki-index.php line from the URL to get the edit page to come up right | [19:12] |
| ohertel | sounds weird. | [19:16] |
| doh123 | it was workignf ine for half aday.. i backed the database up and problems started... so I tried making a whole new database and a fresh installed from tiki 6.3 and it keeps doing the same thing | [19:17] |
| ohertel | Hm, do you use the delivered .htaccess, maybe its not working for you? You only need it for the page rewrites anyway... | [19:18] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03rischconsulting * r34894 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]Page selector field broke when transferred to handlers | [19:19] |
| chealer | ohertel: so what was the problem with the database ohertel? | [19:19] |
| ohertel | to shorten something like /tiki-index.php?page=bla to /bla | [19:19] |
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| doh123 | It is GoDaddy.com so I had to set it all up manually SSL, but it worked fine for a day then all of a sudden... the buttons just link wrong. Its usualyl thrugh in an extra /tiki-index.php/ in there on the links or in the admn palens it throws in an extra tiki-admin.php | [19:19] |
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| ohertel | chealer: looks like the command like sql update works different that the one from inside tiki.
have to have a look. | [19:19] |
| chealer | ohertel: you had use shell.php, and using the installer fixed it?
ohertel: you had used shell.php, and using the installer fixed it? | [19:20] |
| ohertel | yep, think so, will look at it. | [19:21] |
| doh123 | its almost like it only shows the wrong URLs if I'm loggd in... anon users looking throught he website all the URL links seem to work fine | [19:25] |
| ohertel | hm, might be something in the preferences maybe. :-/ but I didnt have a look into those for long.
something like page that you get as 'start page' if you are logged in. | [19:26] |
| doh123 | the tiki user forums still won't work for me... it links me to http://tiki.org/forums but its just a blank page | [19:29] |
| ohertel | hm, works for me. :-/
nah, not anymore. grrrr | [19:29] |
| chealer | ohertel: hum, it did break when logging out
still "<div id="bot_logo_code" style="display:block;">" ohertel: could it be cache :-? | [19:30] |
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| doh123 | but anywhere I can find out why my internal links for admin and edting pages are trying ot use the wrong URLs? through in extra /tiki-whatever.php/ parts in the lines? If I manaulyl enter URLs to get everywhere everythign works fine, its just all the buttons that are entering themin wrong | [19:38] |
| ohertel | I don't know where it comes from. :-/
ok. tw.o still bugged. this sucks greatly. | [19:44] |
| chealer | ohertel: could you disable the debug handler again? | [19:48] |
| ohertel | did
still that error again... grrr | [19:48] |
| chealer | ohertel: thanks. so did you try clearing cache? | [19:49] |
| ohertel | did. now cleaning eaccellerator cache too.
doesnt help at all. | [19:50] |
| chealer | ohertel: pff. do we have that code in any other user module? is that user module still set to wiki parsed ??? | [19:52] |
| ohertel | yup, wiki warser still on for it.
parser any other new modules? | [19:53] |
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| ohertel | hm {menu id=1} should get wiki parsed too. no? | [19:55] |
| chealer | ohertel: that's the Smarty menu function | [19:56] |
| ohertel | {rss id=11} is smarty too? | [19:58] |
| chealer | ohertel: Smarty rss function, yes
ohertel: I don't see anything. should we retry? | [20:00] |
| ohertel | currently works for my, whyever.
ah ok, but broken again after cleaning caches. So how can I get more output of which user module is getting loaded? | [20:03] |
| chealer | ohertel: good question. I'm wondering why ModLib->get_user_module_content( ) doesn't show its argument
$data = $this->get_user_module_content( $mod_reference['name'] ); would be nice to see the string. other calls show a string ah but they're include calls, and that's not an actual function | [20:07] |
| ohertel | custom_center_column_header seems to be it. | [20:08] |
| chealer | ohertel: there are xdebug settings to show arguments
ohertel: really. I thought I had check that one ohertel: what's the content? ohertel: xdebug.collect_params http://www.xdebug.org/docs/stack_trace | [20:08] |
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| ohertel | I removed the contents from the module and it seems to work now...
Will try to find out later. ...what'S borked with that. | [20:15] |
| chealer | ohertel: eh. I'm getting the same error. syntax error: unrecognized tag: DIV(class="clearfix twfooter") (Smarty_Compiler.class.php, line 446) in /var/www/tikiwiki.org/lib/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1093 | [20:16] |
| ohertel | grrrrrrrr | [20:17] |
| chealer | chealer discretely passes ohertel a strong beer
how about nuking bot_logo_code for a while? | [20:17] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34895 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 34888 to 34894 | [20:27] |
| ohertel | chealer: working for you now?
I unassigned the module | [20:29] |
| chealer | ohertel: yes, thank you
ohertel: I'm unable to login to dev: "XMLRPC Error: 2 - Invalid return payload: enable debugging to examine incoming payload" I was able to login once earlier, after the community's upgrade | [20:34] |
| ohertel | checking
were there any changes in xmlrpc.php? | [20:45] |
| chealer | ohertel: no idea. are you sure it's not because some debugging setting is till enabled on tiki.org?
s/till/still/ | [20:49] |
| ohertel | ok, got it fixed. | [20:50] |
| chealer | ohertel: thanks | [20:50] |
| ohertel | Somehow the path to access.log for intertiki was changed and the xmlrpc couldnt write the log. | [20:51] |
| chealer | https://dev.tiki.org/Search+Bugs fixed (closing "{/INCLUDE}" instead of "{INCLUDE}") | [20:51] |
| ohertel | chealer: btw. tiki complained about the header in that body module that I cleaned for testing ... didnt like the {* temp removal
beginning in the contents. I have removed the whole {* temp removal ... *} block. | [20:52] |
| chealer | ohertel: yeah... no idea
ohertel: isn't bot_logo_code simply invalid? I see one less closing DIV tag than opening DIVs so indeed, {DIV(class="clearfix twfooter")} is not closed and rendered literally | [20:53] |
| ohertel | ^^
are you fixing it? | [20:55] |
| chealer | ohertel: maybe you should in case it crashes | [20:58] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34896 10/trunk/ (13 files in 7 dirs): [MOD] Storing the itemId in the item link field instead of the lookup value | [20:58] |
| chealer | I figure the closing div should go between the last closing Smarty DIV and the opening HTML div | [20:58] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r34897 10/branches/experimental/foreign-storage/: [KIL] Branch merged | [20:59] |
| ohertel | Yah, just one closing {DIV} missing at the end, right?
wrapping all the other DIV blocks | [20:59] |
| chealer | ohertel: I think so, but I'm not sure if it should go completely at the end or above the HTML blurb
ohertel: presumably the Tiki 6 parser would consider it as completely at the end, so putting it there won't be a regression | [21:00] |
| ohertel | hm, so where do I have to add it again? forgot where it was in at which position. :P | [21:01] |
| chealer | ohertel: I guess adding it completely at the end will do (and if not, it shouldn't crash the site so we'll see) | [21:03] |
| ohertel | hm, seems it works now.
So someone forgetting a {DIV} can break his tiki site easily. Isn't there a way to have warnings instead of errors? That would be way better. | [21:13] |
| chealer | in a Smarty-parsed block, yeah...
ohertel: hum, something's still wrong with that module, some HTML shows raw "Fast, secure and Free Open Source software downloads" />" | [21:15] |
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| chealer | oh, wiki parsing is interpreting SourceForge as CamelCase | [21:18] |
| ohertel | hm... ~np~ might help?
or )) (( ? | [21:19] |
| chealer | ohertel: done | [21:19] |
| ohertel | yah, looks better. ^^ | [21:19] |
| chealer | fixed, assigning bot_logo_code to Anonymous | [21:21] |
| ohertel | ok, i re-enabled the error reporting again, too. Let's see if it behaves now. :) | [21:23] |
| chealer | module edition is taking several minutes :-/
it eventually finished but the module still doesn'T show to Anonymous ohertel: any idea? I suppose you also don't see it? (as anonymous) | [21:25] |
| ohertel | hm...
I see it. Only the Sourceforge link looks different. somehow. | [21:37] |
| CIA-82 | tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r34898 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]tracker: option when importing an existing item to update lastModif + do not change status and created if not sopecified in csv file | [21:44] |
| chealer | ohertel: you do... I don't see it as anonymous on http://tiki.org/Glossary for example, for example in Opera
nor in Iceweasel on the homepage | [21:46] |
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| ohertel | chealer: its the big black box at the bottom, right? I see it on Glossary, too. being not logged in. | [21:57] |
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| marclaporte | Can someone check https://doc.tiki.org/Mobile with a mobile device? I get a blank page on Android | [22:16] |
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| tnrr | is there a one or two page cheatsheet for wiki syntax i can print out? i still like coding things up the long way ;) | [22:38] |
| ohertel | yah, there is... let me check
http://tiki.org/WikiSyntax | [22:42] |
| tnrr | going there now thanx! | [22:43] |
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| DarkCalf | ugh these upgrades are killing me... i dont think ive had a smooth one yet | [23:09] |
| marclaporte | marclaporte feels the pain
from what to what? | [23:17] |
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