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Yesterday I talked about the problem of wikiplugin_bloglist not being aware of the "excerpt" data of blog posts. I solved my own problem by putting a div class="maincontent" in the blog post, and using CSS to hide this when the post appears in the bloglist module, leaving only the first part of the post, effectively the "excerpt."
Now if the site users can remember to add the div, it'll work fine :-).
This has the benefit of using the excerpt format only in the wikiplugin, and not on the view-blog page, where we want the full post to show, not just the excerpt and a read-more link.
( http://friendsofannie.org is the site, bloglist plugin is used at lower left of front page.)
Ideally, wikiplugin_bloglist should have this functionality as an option, so I'll submit a feature request.
I wonder why the calendar hours stop at 20:00.  Doesn't it seem rather arbitrary?I want to add events that are after that time.
hi chibaguy
calendar hours can be set
20:00 is only the default
you can have 0:00 to 23::55
-:
have s.th. to do now - will send you a link or so, where to set this lateron
ah, ok. fabricius. I need to do more doc-searching, I guess. ;-)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35329 10/branches/7.x/tiki-calendar_edit_item.php: [FIX] calendar: Link to correct tab to create calendar
hi all
Polom jonnyb 
How things are going?
chibaguy: .../tiki-admin_calendars.php -> b
sry misstyped again
chibaguy: .../tiki-admin_calendars.php -> scroll down a bit and you see two dropdowns, where you can deside what the start time and the end time of a day would be
Thanks, fabricius. Hi, jonnyb.
sorry guys - was just doing a demo - hi fabricius and chibaguy 
another satisfied potential customer
every time they say "why haven't we heard of you before?"
:-)
there has some action to be done regarding to marketing we finally learned in Strasbourg
and I think we are on a good way
chibaguy: I like the site you mentionted (for Annie)
it's nice to answer all the questions with y

can you search pdfs? yes
does it do mobile? yes
etc
sad if s.b. beloved gets ill and giving hope if there is such a support by friends and family
my girlfriend suffered cancer herself the last couple of month
rally good idea this website
really
hmmm all the time this misstyping - need to do some more practice in typing right ;-)
Thanks, fabricius. We are just doing what we can, to try to help.
Unfortunately, at least in the U.S., medical insurance only covers a part of expenses.
(for many people)
is any related to Gary? (just think cause of the name)
any -> Annie ... I did it again gmmbl
heh. yes, she is my wife's sister.
so it is not a double name of you and your wife, but instead of your wifes family?
if by Gary you mean me.
Gary C-L, guess you are chibaguy ;-)
yep
chibaguy: btw. what kind of module/script did you use for the slideshow on the top of the HomePage?
chibaguy: it's apparently almost exactly what I am looking for for my papatour website
I do not like the solution I use at the moment
too long to load the first picture and not nice enough for the HomePage
and I have to revamp the site now anyway, as it is 2 weeks after the tour
ah, I'll check. I forgot the name.
chibaguy: and btw. have to upgrade to proposals now - should not talk so much but work, if it should be any use for jonnyb_  in context to the 6.4 release
just want to check if some fixes work for that site and had no reliable internetconnection most of the day (especially evenings) in Strasbourg
thx chibaguy 
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35330 10/branches/7.x/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] wysiwyg: Restore tikiimage tool for wysiwyg (was a mistake to disable it i see now, far too useful!)
any other last fixes for 7.1 anyone? have a few minutes spare and internet connection seems stable...
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35331 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [bp/r35330][FIX] wysiwyg: Restore tikiimage tool for wysiwyg (was a mistake to disable it i see now, far too useful!)
fabricius: http://webdeveloperplus.com/jquery/featured-content-slider-using-jquery-ui/
I put it in a wiki page, in an HTML plugin, and then display it in a module in the top_modules zone.
The necessary CSS goes in the L&F custom CSS textarea, and the JS goes in the custom end of body textarea, between {jq}{/jq} tags.
I modified the HTML a little here and there.
There's smarty filter in the module to show the slideshow only on the homepage (and a Japanese version of the homepage) otherwise to show images via {img  randomGalleryId=...}.
I wonder where's the best place to document using outside jquery scripts like this.
I've thought docs.t.o is for Tiki as it ships. Themes.t.o covers modifying Tiki afterward, but is its scope themes only? Hmm, before, I thought mods.to.o, if it were a live Tiki site, would be just the right place, in view of the name.
themes.t.o maybe chibaguy ?
also, one day we should make a much easier way to do this
thx chibaguy 
chibaguy and jonnyb
I think doc would be the best
at least all kind of documentation should be at least linked in doc
if not located there itself
good day
got a fabricius question, installed tiki, applied community profile and activated some features. but still cant find them or can customize them, like chat... anybody can help me?
I was thinking about a "guiding page" longtime - now Rick and the doc team strtaed the guides (wich is not completely what I though about, but I like them pretty much)
so some kind of a "scout" could be added somehow -> where to find what, who what, what where, tips and tricks and so on -> most is existing anyway I am pretty sure
I think mainly some links habe to be tied together and some more added
adding external scripts could become perhabs a fifth guide besides the existing -> what do you think chibaguy and jonnyb?
Machiavelli: I guess chat is not really working well
not good...
Machiavelli: you should find a module with the main application menu (menu 42) somewhere in the left or right column
thx, i'll try
Machiavelli:  from there you should find all the admin panels of general settings and of activated features and access the features themselves
is your site public at the moment?
or local / closed
yes public already
want to mention the link?
jeah, sorry, http://wiwimeetswinfo.square7.ch/
had a hard time finding a hoster, cause strato, where my webshop is hosted, is pretty slow with its sql
Machiavelli:  I understand Tiki's chat module is really resource intensive.
and it isn't maintained, really, so probably won't be improved.
mhm, cant access the Application menu, just can clone it
Machiavelli: auf der linken Seite siehst Du ein Menü, das sollte das besagte "Main Application Menu" sein -> wenn Du als Admin eingelogt bist, dann siehst Du mehr Menüoptionen, so als untersten Menüeintrag "Verwalten" = "Admin"
ah auf deutsch, super, mhm, ja das hab ich, aber wie bekomme ich jetzt den chat z.b. ins panel rein?
Machiavelli: fährst Du mit der Maus auf "Verwalten" öffnet sich ein zweiter Menülevel, wenn Du "Verwalten" anklickst kommst Du auf das "Main Admin Panel"
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35332 10/third_party/codemirror/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] codemirror: Update to 1.0 release
wie meinst DU ins Panel?
den Chat ins Panel?
nicht panel, sorry, in die linke menüleiste
ah als Modul meinst Du
jupp
klarer jetzt
sorry, steh noch bisschen auf dem schlauch heute, ganze nacht tiki installiert
wenn Du mit Tiki anfängst weisst Du ja noch nicht gleich, wie alles benannt ist und wie die Software strukturiert ist
hui
immer hin läuft es - bei manchen Providern etwas hakelig, vorallem wenn der Support nicht gut erreichbar ist, die Einstellungen restriktiv sind etc.
ja für die uni, quasi projektaufgabe, müssen halt ein wiki aufsetzen, und außer tiki hab ich nichts gutes gefunden, weil media und dev wiki kannste nicht gerade gebrauchen
An sich braucht Tiki nicht viel besonderes und wenn man ein wenig geübt ist geht eine Neuinstallation in kam mehr als 10 bis 15 Minuten
Wenn man nicht gerade abegelenktwird ;-)
ja habs gelesen - WIWI 
ja habs gemerkt, bei strato ist es mies langsam, außerdem hab ich da den firmenwebshop, der ist da recht sensibel, deswegen hab ich freehoster gesucht ohne ende, die meisten hatten php execution time probleme
und einen Server kannst DU deshalb nicht gleich mieten
eben
es entstehen zur Zeit möglichkeiten Tiki quasi out of the box zu "mieten"
naja 10 minuten? der upload dauert schon ewig.. hehe
quasi Tikifarmen
nun, mit DSL
das ist ne gute idee, weil tiki ist halt echt gut an funktionen, plugins etc, finds echt klasse, aber einarbeiten ist halt schwierig, aber das sollte keine hürde sein
10 Minuten hab ich noch nie geschafft, weil ich jedesmal, wenn ich es versuche oder demonstrieren will abgelenkt werde durch Fragen oder Anrufe etc.
aber eine 1/2 Stunde ist sehr einfach deutlichst zu unterschreiten incl. download
Einarbeiten ist nur schwierig im Kontext zur Fülle an Funktionen
die Lernkurve ist sehr steil
pass auf, guggsdu mal hier: tiki.org/GLUG
http://tiki.org/GLUG
glaub ich bzw. merk ich ja... ist eig. überdimensioniert für den zweck für den ich es brauch, aber war schon immer so, wenn ich was mach, dann richtig und gu
ah, danke
wir haben unlängst eine "german language user group" installiert, mit Mailingliste
Der Gedanke liegt nahe, dass Tiki etwas überdimensioniert sei, aber Du brauchst für alle Datenbankbasierten Systeme ohnehin eine Datenbank und Du kannst alles was Du von Tiki nicht benötigst ja einfach abgeschaltet lassen
sehr gut, ist auf deutsch alles immernoch angenehmer...
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35333 10/third_party/codemirror/ (18 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] codemirror: Add missing files (as required)
ja, mein problem mom ist das es bis dienstag quasi stehen muss, und meine gruppe, naja sagen wir mal, "normale user" sind
also die kaffeemaschine steht ständig utner strom
Mach doch mal eine Wikiseite auf, auf der Du sie Funktionen auflistest, die Du benötigst und in etwa den Workflow beschreibst und die gewünschte Struktur der Site
also welchem Zweck dient es, was soll wie gemacht werden
Ein nettes Logo wäre auch nicht schlecht :-D
alright, wird gemacht! ja logo ist in arbeit :)
um welche Hochschule geht es denn? irgendwo in der Schweiz?
nein, uni passau
hatte bloß alle deutschen hoster durch und dann in der schweiz gelandet, und speed ist für nen free hoster super
also hab tiki geschätzt 10 mal istalliert gestern, gefühlte 30
und wieso so oft?
ah alle durch
verstehe
ja, problem war meist das php script, zwecks execution time
ich hab mir schonmal überlegt, ob ich nicht einen Service anbieten soll, wo man einen Subaccount auf meinem Server bekommt, um Tiki zu installieren, zu testen, eine Site aufzubauen und dann in Ruhe eine geeigneten Hoster suchen kann
naja, letztlich wahrscheinlich zu viel Aufwand, aber es gibt ja die freien Hoster
Du kannst ja Deinen Hoster, den Du gefunden hast auf die Seite "Wikifriendly Hosts" dazuschreiben
werd ich aufjedenfall machen, war echt anstrengend
Machiavelli: wegen dem Chat würde ich gar kein großes Aufhebens machen und einfach auf IRC setzen - dazu z.B. hier auf Freenode einen Raum registrieren und auf einer Wikiseite deiner Installation das Webfrontend des Freenodeservers einbinden
z.B. auf einer Seite die nur für registrierte User zugänglic ist
hab ich schonmal gemacht und ist simpel
dann hast Du eine vernünftigen Chat, ohne Non-Tecchies auszusperren
ist eig. eine gute idee
ist das chat-modul denn so kompliziert?
jep - ich habe lange rumgemacht und keine vernünftige externe oder interne Lösung gefunden
nö, es gibt wohl gewisse Probleme im Bereich Moderation, Leerung des Chatfensters, Log ...
wichtig ist für mich halt das Wiki an sich, mit intern und public funktion, rechten, etc. und vorallem halt eine Kategorisierung,
das funktioniert natürlich super
das will ich mom über die Kategoriefunktion machen
Rechte würde ich überhaupt über Kategorien steuern und garnicht mit Objektberechtigungen anfangen
Objektberechtigungen?
also letzteres nur im Einzelfall und mit ein wenig Erfahrung, wenn DU Rechte mit Kategorien steuern willst - soinst dureinander
aber, erstmal danke das ich dich löchern darf!
Du kannst im Prinzip jede Permission auf jedes Objekt anwenden
naja, es muss halt einfach bedienbar sein, weil wie du ja weißt, nicht jeder die technik und spielereien mag wie wir, die sind froh wenn sie facebook aufkriegen
ok, bye guys - RMLL all over for 2011 and we have to get out - more later i guess...
Machiavelli: I suggest, that we either switch back to english or move to #tikiwiki-de because most people here do not speak german
not to upset somebody
alright
what do you prefer?
I do not mind
have to do some work anyway, so perhabs we stay here in english 
sounds good to me
or you want some quick hints in german language, than we move, but only for a couple of minutes
if you want to set the stuff up til tuesday, I think you need kind of a crash course
yeah, would be good, but dont want to waste your time or disturb you
so you should write down the structural stuff first - setup your wikipage (maybe in a registered area of your site) and describe your project
if you want, I might have a look at it lateron this evening and then give you some hints, wich features you need and how to set them up
with that it might be easier to come back to the chat and ask more detailed questions, if anything is not working and you do not find it in the documantation (http://doc.tiki.org)
tip: we are doing a huge doc revamp at the moment - see the "hole documentation" in english language, as german structure is a bit odd
would be great, ok, i'll try and check the doc. alright, sounds good to me. thx
I want to remove the structure and just keep the german pages as english translations in the original structure
docs are super, just a bit massive in only one long structure - at the moment some views are not really working, as you might be "thrown out of the structure", because some pages are in more than one.
ok, think can handle that
will be done soon, but at the top of the pages there is a dropdown "view page in structure XYZ" (right structure should be "Documentation+TOC
"
cool
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35334 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl: [bp/r35231][FIX]invite: button also in admin group
polom
wolod
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35335 10/trunk/ (lib/userslib.php templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl): [ENH]group: display in italic groups that are not directly included
 New Forum Posts: PluginColorbox spews code and not images - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41773
 New Forum Posts: Sorting tracker elements - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41772
 New Forum Posts: How to make images from a traker in a pretty tracker template work with colorbox? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41768
hi jonny
hi again - back at Jyhem's
are you guys releasing 7.1 soon (how much time do I have for another commit)?
hi nkoth - it'll be the evening here, so at least 3 or 4 hours
more good things for 7.1 is nice, more hard stuff to vote on for 6.4 would be bad though, we still have a couple of dozen to go through
just 7.1, just need to optionalizize and de-hardcode a couple more advanced cart features
super - thanks
brb
polom
salut marclaporte 
wolod
is there an option not to have the <x>
I thought admins have a perm...
can anyone help with "Custom CSS"?
I have a CSS file I need included before any Tiki CSS gets read ... will adding it in the Custom CSS area achieve that?
I want it to appear in all pages (it's the over-rides for "user-agent" css)
custom css -> it will appear in any page .. not sure when it is loaded - 
custom css appears in HTML methinks
@ jonnyb: finally after a lot of distraction, I made it to install proposals
yay, well done fabricius 
jonnyb: it is right now http://temp.papatour.eu -> I have to copy themes and stuff and when ready relink the original domain to the new tikiroot
checked WYSIWYG on the HomePage -> is now working again
:D
jonnyb: anything particular, I should check straight away before release?
anything else I mean
any of that funny timezone stuff?
(funny as in "ha ha"!)
how does one go about obtaining commit access? (I have both tw.o & sf logins already)
kstingel: "included before any Tiki CSS gets read" sounds to me like to be included in the top of the theme - if you use an original theme, just make a custom theme out of it as you just copy the css-file in the styles folder in the tiki root and rename with "originalname dash custoname dot css" like fivelive.css would become fivealive-someword.css
kstingel: just if I understood well, what you meant
jonnyb: kk, I'll check it
=> somebody with an IE 6 or a windows online?
need a quick check of my css-menus after ticking the timezone detection
fabricius: I have IETester. I can check with IE6.
fabricius: not quite what I meant ... I have "styles/uaoverrides.css" which I want to load so that it gets read first, thus preventing any user-agent problems for all themes
I could do it by editing "header.tpl", but that would require fixing after every upgrade, I'm trying to achieve a singular solution
fabricius: The upper menu's dropdowns seem to drop down behind the second menu. The second menu's third level (menu items that open to the right side of the dropdown items) don't display at all.
Are the themes different for IE6 and for Firefox? IE6 shows The News, and FF shows Papatour.
I think the header space needs to be increased for IE6, to give the upper menu dropdowns space to display.
chibaguy: did you show at http://papatour.eu or http://temp.papatour.eu => prop is on the 2nd one and I am just copying the styles to the new folder
actually all my headerimages are gone and the secondary is white
Oh, I see. I was looking at temp, but loaded first in IE6.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35336 10/branches/7.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] category tree: Store state in cookie and render open or closed server-side
would you might to load again in both browsers and maybe compare with the original site please?
just that I did not miss a major fault on the existing site
yes
If anyone has a 7.x they can easily update could you please check r35336 (bit near to release so would like 2nd opinion)
few chores to do - back soon
fabricius: I loaded the site in both browsers again (papatour.eu).
IE6 has a problem with the upper menu wrapping in two rows, and the bottom row interferes with the top row, so it's hard to see/click the top-row dropdowns.
Also, the Register and Login buttons are up at the top of the page. IE6 doesn't support positioning a div at the bottom of another unless (I think) the height of the containing div is specified. (Maybe not even then. I don't remember exactly.)
doc.tiki.org != fast
On the main menu, the color contrast of the dropdown (child) items isn't good, as it is black text on dark blue background. And again, the third-level items don't display.
In Firefox, the third-level items display, but their top-margin is too large (inherited from the top level of the menu I think). #tiki-top .cssmenu_horiz ul ul needs a magin-top: 0, if I recall correctly.
margin-top
ok chibaguy thx - the most problem with some windows browsers (included some firefox versions) was a memory exhaust error
we desided not to do the IE6 support effort, because keeping the css menus I did not really get done these times I developed the site and a IE6 detction I could not recode myself to swith perspective on detecting IE6
kstingel: There's a Custom HTML <head> Content textarea on the Look and Feel admin page, but I don't know exactly where that loads in <head>.
Main task would be, if there will appear the exhaust error again with proposals, when I activate the timezone detection 
so I do now
chibaguy: neither do I, hence my query ... will go and load it in and then check the source of HomePage
@ chibaguy and jonnyb: the timezone detection is activated on temp.p.eu and on p.eu - would you mind to reload please?
@ chibaguy  now I now about the origin of your nickname ;-)
heh
In IE6, I get a script error: line 29, character 1, "Expected identifier, string or number"
on p.eu or temp.p.eu?
and aaaahrrrrgh
worst case:
moved a folder instead of copying and then deleted it accidentailly
all headerfiles gone
arrghhhh
on the productive site
should not happen
more work now without any time to delay
urgllll
:-|
%&'grmpf!$%
so chibaguy : on wich of both site the error appeared - or on both?
and now memory exhausted error?
on both I think. For sure on papatour.eu, and I think also on temp
ah, no error on temp. at least after reloading in IE6 now.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35337 10/branches/7.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Make optional and add prefs for recording orders advanced cart feature
so no "line 29, character 1, "Expected identifier, string or number" " and no "memory exhausted error" on temp
but "line 29, character 1, "Expected identifier, string or number" " on the original?
what's with the "memory exhausted error" on the original?
sounds good so far apart from my silly deletion action
could you confirm that I understood right chibaguy ?
I didn't get a memory exhausted error on either site.
anyone notice if prefs default does not show in admin panel in tiki7?
jonnyb, I svn-upped branch 7 and it seems ok (I'm looking at tiki-browse_categories.php; I don'treally know what to look for re your commit.
nm, cache
hmm that's weird - on the original one there should be one - Ok thanks chibaguy, I redo the header and look further into it. 
thanks for the time ;-)
sure
hi all - back (getting Jyhem's place ready for the Bastille release 'fest)
fabricius: checking http://temp.papatour.eu now
nkoth: looking forward to getting in to your new advanced cart stuff - i have a confirmed order for an e-commerce site to go live at the end of this year
fabricius: one improvement seems to be on temp.papa i get the english homepage, but german on the live site
time to sleep here. g'night all.
is sourceforge svn down? i can't commit
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35338 10/branches/7.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] More prefs for advanced cart (anonymous shopping and inventory hold timeout)
hmm, ok from command line, maybe aptana problem
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35339 10/trunk/ (19 files in 13 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 35307 to 35337
tikiwiki: Conflicts on db/tiki.sql, lib/setup/prefs.php & lib/prefs/payment.php by using trunk versions
tikiwiki: Manual fixes for new regime to come
hmm, conflict in the prefs bleah
@ jonnyb : from my 6.2 propr
@ jonny : from my 6.2 to my proposals, the design of the module titles changed
@ jonnyb : just to mention it  ... will have to look into that lateron
have to go soon
nkoth: just fixing them - you'll need to check
fabricius: ok, more later
nkoth: Aptana seems to be bad at reporting commit failures. there must be a bug.
just quickly will change OS and check the exhaust thing
brb
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35340 10/trunk/lib/prefs/payment.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] payment: Manual "merge" of pref defaults into the payment prefs file where they live now in trunk.
tikiwiki: nkoth please check i got them right...
who do I speak to to obtain commit access?
kstingel: are you planning to commit a fix?
once I've finished updating, I have a couple of minor fixes I made ... but I also plan on starting Smarty3 templating ...
my previous sites use Smarty3, so it makes it easier to convert if I can update (my) Tiki to be able to use either 2 or 3
have you finished reviewing http://dev.tiki.org/Commit+Code and understand where to commit in terms of branches? Have you approached someone else regarding this before?
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35341 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: 
tikiwiki: [ENH] wysiwyg: Add a perm to allow users to switch - depends on feature_wysiwyg
tikiwiki: Manual implementation of part of r35325 due to different perms structure
I've asked before, but usually been ignored as my query seems to roll out of visible comments too fast
we discussed that Smarty 3 was planned for after Tiki 7.1
I've been playing around with it in Tiki8 ... I thought maybe if no-one was currently working on it, you may want what I've put together thus far
I'm running 6.3, 7.0, 7.1 & trunk(8) on my testing server
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35342 10/branches/3.0/lib/newsletters/nllib.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r30187 | jonnybradley | 2010-10-21 19:18:31 +0200 (Thu, 21 Oct 2010) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r23854][FIX] newsletters: display also the newsletter that have not been sent
ok kstingel, sounds good. let's get you svn access first anyway
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35343 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribegroup.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r31379 | Jyhem | 2010-12-13 11:51:39 +0100 (Mon, 13 Dec 2010) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [FIX] Being in an included group is not incorrect, and can be handled
kstingel: what is your sourceforge username? There is a little ceremony begin now if you are ready
It's basically this: http://dev.tiki.org/3rules
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35344 10/branches/3.0/lib/userslib.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33937 | chealer | 2011-04-13 04:20:58 +0200 (Wed, 13 Apr 2011) | 3 lines
tikiwiki: [bp/r33865][SEC] LDAP: reject invalid empty passwords instead of attempting an unauthenticated bind
tikiwiki: backport untested
kstingel ... I try to keep the same username where possible
kstingel: OK, ceremony begins. Do you agree to respect the environment (as explained in http://dev.tiki.org/3rules) as well as make sure not to commit anything incompatible with the LGPL license.
IRC client just crashed
yes I figured :)
start over: member:kstingel: OK, ceremony begins. Do you agree to respect the environment (as explained in http://dev.tiki.org/3rules) as well as make sure not to commit anything incompatible with the LGPL license.
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35345 10/branches/3.0/db/ (tiki-secdb_3.7_mysql.sql tiki-secdb_3.8_mysql.sql): Preparing 3.9 release - remove old secdb files
I do
Do you agree to commit early and often and in line with http://dev.tiki.org/Where+to+commit?
yes
Do you agree to make things optional (i.e. users should be able to switch off the new features, of course if it's just a simple fix it is not necessary to be optional)?
yes
Welcome! adding account to commit access...
kstingel: done. I've seen you on the devel list, so I suppose you've been reading it so that's good. I suppose you've seen some of the discussions there and do get a flavor of how discussions happen. Sometimes, especially if you are committing something quite significant there can be quite a bit of discussion, that's all part of it. And sometimes a few people may seem rude but it may be just a factor of language sk
or other things so it's best to give the benefit of the doubt. Hope to see you at a Tikifest some time - it's a good way to put a face to people online  :)
Do you agree to take Bob as your lawfully wedded husband, to love and honour him, stand by his side in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health, for as long as you both shall live (except of course when he's being an ass)?
hi kstingel__ welcome!
I do :D
welcome kstingel__
I now pronounce me Karen and Tiki?
how exactly does one join a TikiFest? ... I assumed they were an "in person" event ...
I been waiting to see one in Australia
http://tiki.org/tikifest
well, do you agree to a largely polygamous marriage?
chealer....
that's an understatement in the extreme isn't it? ... and yes
Australia, cool. I haven't heard about many people from Australia unfortunately
It's been a while since I've been to Australia. I'm current in Canada (used to live in Singapore that's when I was in Aust. more often)
kstingel__: good. Long life Karen and Tiki!
I'm in Brisbane ... most webby type people seem to be in Melbourne and Sydney
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35346 10/branches/3.0/ (18 files in 3 dirs): [REL] Preparing 3.9 release
back soon .. X-Chat is v laggy
nkoth: sorry if I broke the ceremonial tone. your line was too funny
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35347 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_addtocart.php: [FIX] Individual payment perms not respecting global perms (may not be the best fix but does fix it), and also remove leftover comments.
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35348 10/branches/3.0/README: [REL] Update README file for 3.9
chealer: lol
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35349 10/branches/3.0/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 3.9
 New Forum Posts: tiki CAS integration - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41777
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35350 10/branches/3.0/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 3.9
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35351 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.9_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.9
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35352 10/tags/3.9/: [REL] Tagging release
jonnyb: ===== Error 0 in 20110713_add_tiki_p_edit_switch_mode_tiki =====
        INSERT INTO `users_permissions` (`permName`, `permDesc`, `level`, `type`, `admin`, `feature_check`) VALUES ('tiki_p_edit_switch_mode', 'Can switch between wiki and WYSIWYG modes while editing', 'editor', 'tiki', NULL, 'feature_wysiwyg')
        Unknown column 'permDesc' in 'field list'
hi chealer - odd, i didn't get that
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35353 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/htmlpurifier_tiki/HTMLPurifier.tiki.php: [FIX] fix 33231 with lucia remarks...
jonnyb: it's a merge issue. users_permissions does not contain a permDesc column anymore in trunk since r34053
(that and other columns)
are you sure that line was merged into trunk? i thought i added into userslib.php as perms don't happen in tiki.sql anymore
oh right - it's the update script - needs deleting
can you do it pls? (in the middle of QT 6.x stuff)
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35354 10/branches/7.x/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [FIX] Missing prefs and file for advanced cart associated events and product exchanges feature
jonnyb: if you say there's no need to have perms in users_permissions anymore, I can
yes please - they're all in a great big php array now
polom
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r35355 10/trunk/installer/schema/20110713_add_tiki_p_edit_switch_mode_tiki.sql: [FIX] Upgrades: "Unknown column 'permDesc' in 'field list'" from merge error in r35339, as instructed by Jonny Bradley (permissions are now only defined in code)
@ jonnyb : I could not reproduce the exhaust error, because I do not heva the appropriate browsers on win 7, as I had on xp - will have to find another computer
fabricius: pizza time here - bbl
ahh good - bon appetit
greetings to Jyhem
all say hi back
greetings to all then :-D
didn't guess more people
hope you all have a good time
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35356 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]MAIL: possible to select multiple groups + preview step
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35357 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mail.php: [ENH]MAIL: param to recurse on includding groups
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35358 10/branches/6.x/tiki-webmail.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33011 | luciash | 2011-02-21 18:57:33 +0100 (Mon, 21 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r32265][FIX] webmail: slightli bettar inglish error messages
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35359 10/branches/6.x/tiki-webmail.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33012 | luciash | 2011-02-21 19:12:46 +0100 (Mon, 21 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33004][FIX] webmail: same fix as r32301 but for the filtered list (unread and flagged msgs) + commented code cleanup
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35360 10/branches/6.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33019 | sylvieg | 2011-02-21 20:52:09 +0100 (Mon, 21 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33017][FIX]ARTICLES: if usePagination, send in the pagination url all the filters
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35361 10/branches/6.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33029 | sylvieg | 2011-02-22 00:48:45 +0100 (Tue, 22 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33028][FIX]tracker: do not duplicate trackerId in url to item view of tracker view (in any case itemId param is enough
tikiwiki: r33034 | jonnybradley | 2011-02-22 13:55:10 +0100 (Tue, 22 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [FIX] index_raw: Process parse_wiki_argvariable before parsing page data so args work inside plugins (works ok in trunk as index_raw is totally different there, so no backport possible)
tikiwiki: r33038 | sylvieg | 2011-02-22 17:45:28 +0100 (Tue, 22 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35362 10/branches/6.x/ (lib/wiki/wikilib.php modules/mod-func-youtube.php): 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33048 | sylvieg | 2011-02-22 20:51:50 +0100 (Tue, 22 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33047][FIX]youtube module: fix 30803: a module is not wiki parsed
tikiwiki: r33056 | chealer | 2011-02-23 09:51:33 +0100 (Wed, 23 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33055][FIX] Wiki: Pages overriding global cache to avoid caching are cached
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35363 10/branches/proposals/6.x/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [QT] Rollback rejected proposition r33060
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35364 10/branches/6.x/ (16 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33063 | chealer | 2011-02-24 07:47:49 +0100 (Thu, 24 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [FIX] French: Admin Login fixes
tikiwiki: r33066 | sylvieg | 2011-02-24 16:38:20 +0100 (Thu, 24 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33065][FIX]trackerfilter: do not overwrite param max if given
tikiwiki: r33067 | nyloth | 2011-02-24 18:18:39 +0100 (Thu, 24 Feb 2011) | 2 lines
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35365 10/branches/7.x/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [FIX] Missing prefs and files for advanced cart gift cert feature
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35366 10/branches/6.x/ (15 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33157 | sylvieg | 2011-02-28 21:51:41 +0100 (Mon, 28 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33156]notice
tikiwiki: r33159 | sylvieg | 2011-02-28 22:11:08 +0100 (Mon, 28 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: rollback 33157
tikiwiki: r33160 | sylvieg | 2011-02-28 22:12:35 +0100 (Mon, 28 Feb 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35367 10/branches/6.x/ (5 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33211 | chibaguy | 2011-03-03 05:41:42 +0100 (Thu, 03 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33210][MOD] Text style shouldn't be hardcoded in the template (<small></small> removed).
tikiwiki: r33213 | chibaguy | 2011-03-03 05:52:59 +0100 (Thu, 03 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33212][FIX] In IE6, narrower right column in fixed-width mode caused modules to not display (fixed-width right-column box width reduced to 178px). Thanks, Marc.
tikiwiki: r33215 | nkoth | 2011-03-03 06:43:54 +0100 (Thu, 03 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35368 10/branches/6.x/tiki-send_newsletters.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33238 | sylvieg | 2011-03-04 18:52:40 +0100 (Fri, 04 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33237][FIX]newsletter: do not add <br> for newsletter using wysiwyg
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35369 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-sitelocbar.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33248 | chibaguy | 2011-03-05 12:08:11 +0100 (Sat, 05 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [] Rollback of r33211. Will resubmit with CSS change as per cvs list discussion.
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35370 10/branches/6.x/ (styles/layout/design.css templates/tiki-sitelocbar.tpl): 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33249 | chibaguy | 2011-03-05 12:17:29 +0100 (Sat, 05 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33210][MOD] Second try (thanks, luci). Text style shouldn't be hardcoded in the template (<small></small> removed, replaced with property in design.css).
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35371 10/branches/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_newsletter_subscriptions.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33273 | sylvieg | 2011-03-07 15:20:07 +0100 (Mon, 07 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33271][FIX]newsletters: cahnge the label to including to follow commit 27707
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35372 10/branches/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33304 | sylvieg | 2011-03-10 00:13:23 +0100 (Thu, 10 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [QT] rollback 33179 ... need the sort whenn using path
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35373 10/branches/7.x/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Final set of prefs for advanced cart features, should be ok for 7.1 now
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35374 10/branches/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: 
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33236 | sylvieg | 2011-03-04 17:26:47 +0100 (Fri, 04 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33235][FIX]categ: try to fix 29936 - that returns no categs in categ tracker fields
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r35375 10/branches/6.x/ (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [QT] Quality Team Backport
tikiwiki: r33306 | sylvieg | 2011-03-10 15:13:07 +0100 (Thu, 10 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: [bp/r33305][FIX]category: better fix for 29936 + 33178. fix change_categ param id + sort with categ name with accent
tikiwiki: r33307 | sylvieg | 2011-03-10 15:20:53 +0100 (Thu, 10 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: oops debug
tikiwiki: r33313 | sylvieg | 2011-03-10 21:36:43 +0100 (Thu, 10 Mar 2011) | 1 line
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r35376 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/tikilib.php: [QT] Rollback rejected proposition r34956
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r35377 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.php: [QT] Rollback rejected proposition r34569
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35378 10/branches/7.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] 7.1RC1: Update version info
jonnyb: I am just about to clean up lib/prefs/payment.php in order to make it easier to merge
I suppose I can commit it to trunk
then when you merge up you can just take the local one
I mrean the repo one
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r35379 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Admin Trackers: AutoIncrement field type itemId parameter description - remove extra space
hi nkoth - i was just about to suggest something like that
are you done for today? (apart from the pref default stuff?)
it's probably less work to fix trunk - after 7.1 there's no more merging (in theory)
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35380 10/trunk/lib/prefs/payment.php: [FIX] Manual merge of defaults from Tiki 7 r35373
:)
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r35381 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-admin_forums.tpl: [QT] Rollback rejected proposition r33612
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r35382 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-admingroups.tpl: [QT] Rollback rejected proposition r33318
jonnyb: i'm done
super, thanks nkoth - doing a last merge now
so no more commit in 7?
tracker in trunk are really broken..
sylvieg: which part? last week it was ok for me
yesterday - I tried to create a simple tracker with 2 field text and email - got about 4 bugs
hi sylvieg1 - if we're ready for 7.1RC1 we should freeze 7.x, yes
:-( or :-) release process is too fast for me
well merging from 7.x to trunk is getting very messy
I suppose the right way is to go from LTS to LTS
and quite a bit has been fixed there now
thx jonnyb YOU DID A LOT OF MERGE
soory caps
:)
sylvieg1: abt trunk tracker, fatal bug or small bug - I just tried with 35240 from last week it is ok. The only problem I had with the new tracker UI was the need to clear browser cahche
so far anyway, I have not done any complex condig uet
...config yet
are you able to change the field type for instance?
whanted to change form email to etxt
I tried to delete a field - no way
a cache problem
I cannot change type (there is no interface for it) but delete ok
by pressing the X
try to create the field again with the same name
oh ok, the red x looks like a problem
actually I think it's bad UI
you have to save after hitting red x
+1 bad UI
no
sorry I did not check who wrote it
The only way I can delete is use the checkbox and then select remove selected
canyou create another field with the same name?
I was not able
it tells me that it already exist
because in fact the field was not properly deleted
.. you got the same problem
just refresh, and you will see the field again - check the checkbox, and then chose "Remove Selected" from the frop down. This worksaround for now
yeh..
release process is too fast
trunk is not ready to be a candidate
sure, it's still early
trunk release won't be for a few months right?
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35383 10/trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 35337 to 35378
We should branch in September for a release in October
which is really soon!
sylvieg1 : which features/parts do you feel need most attention?
tracker
I agree. Anything else?
I'm deploying a rather big site using pretty tracker + unified search right now, by september I should have given it a pretty good beating/testing...
I think each release should focus on code improvment / UI
unified seach with 4000 files works - but perfs are poor
do a query with the word to on doc.tiki.org and you will see
how to debug tiki
for instance
search should have be solved outside perms..
it should have been 2 engines
sorry to see the 6.4 release is so complicated
it's worrying too that there are so many changes
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35385 10/branches/6.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 6.4 release
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35386 10/branches/6.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 6.4
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35387 10/branches/6.x/lang/ (47 files in 47 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 6.4
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35388 10/branches/6.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 6.4
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35389 10/branches/6.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 6.4
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35390 10/branches/6.x/db/tiki-secdb_6.4_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 6.4
47 languages!
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35391 10/tags/6.4/: [REL] Tagging release
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35392 10/branches/7.x/db/tiki-secdb_7.0_mysql.sql: [REL] 7.1RC1: Delete old secdb
polom all
changi, you know anything about file galleries?
or how about you chealer?  (can't remember if I asked)
I'm looking to fix the archives feature with tiki draw.