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[00:51] <NetworkMan> Can someone help me with ver.7 to create an external link on a menu to open in a new window?
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[01:02] <Spark> hi, is there a way to configure tiki for splitting between cgi-bin and content dirs?
[01:02] <Spark> i need it to get css from / even though the php files are in cgi-bin/
[01:02] <Spark> otherwise i'll need rewrite rules
[01:02] <Spark> and that ends up flakey
[01:05] <nkoth> NetworkMan: do you know jquery?
[01:06] <nkoth> ^ http://css-tricks.com/snippets/jquery/open-external-links-in-new-window/
[01:06] <NetworkMan> jquery...nope.
[01:07] <nkoth> Spark: I think the css needs to be "within" the tikiroot in the usual relative way, otherwise the css won't load
[01:08] <Spark> nkoth: the css has to be in a different root
[01:08] <Spark> because of hte apache configuration
[01:08] <Spark> css, images, js, etc
[01:08] <Spark> if tiki doesn't support that i have to hack it
[01:09] <nkoth> why are the php files in cgi-bin anyway?
[01:10] <Spark> becaus they're cgi scripts
[01:10] <nkoth> I always thought that was for perl scripts or something
[01:12] <Spark> all scripts that are executed by the webserver to generate the page go in cgi-bin
[01:13] <Spark> reading doc.tiki.org, it looks like support for this used to exist
[01:13] <Spark> Server name (for absolute URIs):" -> http://yourserver.com/yoursite/ 
[01:13] <Spark> [Is this obsolete for 2.1? I cannot find any slot on the Admin > General page with a label similar to this, although I see the following two. If someone in the know could update this it would help relative newcomers like me.]
[01:13] <Spark> that's what i need
[01:13] <Spark> but it's not there
[01:15] <nkoth> Spark, sorry I don't know and don't have a server config like this to test with
[01:16] <nkoth> I vaguely remember this was an issue/there was a way back in the old days...(meaning years ago)
[01:20] <NetworkMan>  Can someone help me with ver.7 to create an external link on a menu to open in a new window? Please!!!!!!!!
[01:20] <nkoth> NetworkMan, one sec
[01:20] <nkoth> creating wiki page
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[01:27] <nkoth> NetworkMan:  http://doc.tiki.org/How+to+make+menu+items+open+in+a+new+window
[01:30] <nkoth> actually have you tried http://foo.bar" target="_blank ?
[01:35] <NetworkMan> yes...i tried this already....
[01:35] <nkoth> NetworkMan: I tried it it works... https://doc.tiki.org/Menu#External_Links_in_Menus
[01:43] <NetworkMan> Here is the link I'm using:  https://campusship.ups.com/login/mawesup" target="_blank
[01:43] <nkoth> ok, so far so good
[01:44] <NetworkMan> It is setup as a menu item.  It opens on the current web tab.
[01:44] <nkoth> did you turn on the allow html feature in admin...general (navigation tav)
[01:47] <NetworkMan> That's it ....Thanks....
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[02:26] <Spark> got most of it working
[02:26] <Spark> http://gritengine.woaf.net/cgi-bin/game-engine-wiki/tiki-index.php
[02:26] <Spark> the menus are missing those little triangle arrow things
[02:26] <Spark> perhaps a bug in the javascript?
[02:28] <Spark> it's simply not emitting the span tag for it
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[02:55] <Spark> can't figure it out
[02:55] <Spark> probably a bug
[02:55] <Spark> it ruins the usability of hte page though so needs fixking
[03:00] <Spark> comapre:
[03:00] <Spark> http://gritengine.woaf.net/cgi-bin/game-engine-wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Shadows
[03:00] <Spark> http://gritengine.woaf.net/game-engine-wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Shadows
[03:09] <nkoth> your images are also not showing, the img/wiki_up folder not mapping or allowed to see
[03:16] <Spark> there are no uploaded images yet
[03:16] <Spark> mediawikki does not export them in its xml format
[03:16] <Spark> i'll have to create them manually
[03:17] <Spark> the images will go into the database anyway
[03:17] <Spark> i recall telling it to do that
[03:24] <Spark> it is actually only the admin part that is broken
[03:24] <Spark> so not a big deal really
[03:24] <Spark> the rest of the site doesn't link to cgi-bin/ for some reason
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[07:10] <Spark> self_link is the problem
[07:10] <Spark> it inserts cgi-bin into the link
[07:19] <Spark> it uses PHP_SELF
[07:19] <Spark> which will include the cgi-bin
[07:19] <Spark> maybe it should use REQUEST_URI or something
[07:22] <Spark> i'll just hack it
[07:22] <Spark>     $php_self = str_replace("cgi-bin/", "", $php_self);
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[07:40] <Merbster> Spark, I separated my hack into a file and includeded it the appropiate place, it easies upgrades 
[07:42] <Spark> yeah
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[07:42] <Spark> an upgrade will just trash your include line though
[07:42] <Merbster> Spark, yes, but it's easier to identify where the hack ahs been included
[07:42] <Merbster> because you open your file and do a search for include("yourfile.php");
[07:43] <Merbster> instead of writing the hack directly
[07:43] <Merbster> it also clearly defines where the hack starts and stops, so when you need to disable it or whatever, you're not in doubt where it started etc.
[07:44] <Merbster> also easier for other people if you have collegues etc. ^^
[07:45] <Spark> true
[07:45] <Spark> it seems PHP_SELF is used all over the palce
[07:47] <Spark> is this meant to look like this?  http://gritengine.woaf.net/game-engine-wiki/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=4
[07:48] <Spark> maybe what i should do is change PHP_SELF
[07:49] <Spark> the problem is, sometimes you do need the actual filename
[07:49] <Spark> but sometimes you want the URL that serves the file
[07:49] <Spark> and at the moment they are both implmeneted with PHP_SELF so impossible to distinguish
[07:51] <Spark> what i need to do is locate places where PHP_SELF ends up in a href=, action= or src=
[07:52] <Spark> what would be awesome is if i could get apache to fix all the links in the page
[07:52] <Spark> like mod rewrite, but processing the result of a php script execution
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[07:54] <Merbster> Spark, if this is standard code that is messing up on your server it seems like something is misconfigured
[07:55] <Merbster> I have had no reason to configure tikiwiki in any special way regarding the php_self
[07:56] <Spark> the server setup is standard -- executable stuff in /cgi-bin and content in /
[07:56] <Spark> wordpress works fine
[07:56] <Spark> tiki is just buggy
[07:57] <Spark> i am not looking forward to setting up phpbb
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[08:01] <Merbster> Spark, are you using Apache or IIS?
[08:01] <Merbster> Isn't CGI-Bin a bit old-school? :P
[08:02] <Merbster> Even on the IIS server we use, we use FastCGI for php, yet there is no CGI-bin
[08:02] <Spark> apache
[08:02] <Merbster> and when I had TikiWiki running on apache I did not use the cgi-bin at all
[08:03] <Spark> so you executed the scripts as http-user?
[08:03] <Spark> this is a multi-user system, that would be completely unacceptable from a security pov
[08:03] <Merbster> Spark, I am no expert in server setups. But doesn't apache support multiple domain configuration withouh being dependant on cgi-bins? 
[08:04] <Merbster> I mean, what differentiates the cgi-bin from the user's own homedir?
[08:04] <Merbster> and isn't all files in tikiwiki scripts? - besides ofc. pictures, text etc.
[08:05] <Merbster> to my knowledge there are no "pure" html files in tikiwiki so all files would end up in cgi bin?
[08:06] <Spark> css, js, and images are outside of cgi-bin
[08:06] <Spark> you don't have to call it cgi-bin, but you need one area that contains scripts that are executed setuid, and another area that contains files that are copied to the client, as http-user
[08:07] <Spark> so they have to manifest as 2 different url prefixes, typically / and /cgi-bin/
[08:10] <Spark> i don't have root on this server anyway
[08:10] <Spark> the most common thing to do is not have multi-user systems these days
[08:10] <Spark> then the config can be as insecure as you like
[08:20] <Spark> so how do you do things like searching for orphaned pages
[08:20] <Spark> or broken links
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[08:28] <coaboa> good morning tikiverse
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[08:45] <jonnyb_> hi coaboa 
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[08:59] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35702 10/trunk/tiki-xmlrpc_services.php: [MOD] Modify Path to be clear
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[08:59] <luciash> good morning
[09:00] <jonnyb> hi luciash 
[09:00] <Merbster> Spark, Sounds like you're better at setting up servers than me. I'm just a measly developer :P
[09:02] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35703 10/trunk/tiki-socialnetworks.php: Check feature
[09:02] <luciash> hiya jonnyb
[09:03] <luciash> jonnyb: still travelling ?
[09:03] <jonnyb> yup
[09:03] <luciash> jonnyb: touring europe with your tent ? :)
[09:04] <jonnyb> yes, but working today - staying at a friends near Lyon
[09:04] * luciash was hitch-hiking near lyon when being "young"
[09:04] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35704 10/trunk/tiki-slideshow.php: Check feature
[09:04] <luciash> jonnyb: come to visit us then ! ;)
[09:05] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35705 10/trunk/ (categorize_list.php contribution.php): Check script
[09:05] <jonnyb> next time maybe - going to meet up with my sister & family next week, then home
[09:05] <luciash> jonnyb: our garden has plenty of space for a tent ;)
[09:05] <jonnyb> :D
[09:06] <luciash> jonnyb: and couple of nice pubs in the near by
[09:06] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35706 10/trunk/categorize.php: Check script
[09:06] <luciash> jonnyb: ok, next time then :D
[09:07] <luciash> jonnyb: i was hoping for organizing tikifest this year at our place but it looks like more probably next year
[09:07] <Merbster> Any ideas about where the next tikifest will be?
[09:08] <luciash> Merbster: Montréal Canada iirc
[09:08] <Merbster> hmmm.
[09:09] <Merbster> is the date specified yet?
[09:09] <luciash> Merbster: check out http://tiki.org/TikiFest
[09:10] <Merbster> luciash, thank you :)
[09:11] <Merbster> SJ-Jay and me have been talking abuot maybe attending one of the tikifests, we need to clear it with our boss htough 
[09:17] <luciash> Merbster: u r welcome
[09:18] <Merbster> I hope so, I'd hate to be beaten by a horde of mad tiki devs :P
[09:35] <luciash> lol
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[09:39] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35707 10/branches/7.x/lib/setup/absolute_urls.php: [FIX] html base tag: Use REQUEST_URI if other server vars not set, and don't use it at all if not found as using $base_url instead produces incorrect results on in-page anchors (thanks Sylvie)
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[09:50] <xavi> polom
[09:50] <xavi> jonnyb, about the webdav issue with finder... I don't have a mc handy here at work, but I can offer you to try with our server...
[09:50] <xavi> with a test trunk...
[09:51] <xavi> so that you can know for sure whether it's some sort of issue mac-specific and not server-side issue (missing sopme weird package or whatever)
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[09:57] <sylvieg> jonnyb: thx for the fix - I was sure something could be done but did not have time
[09:57] <jonnyb> hi sylvieg and xavi 
[09:58] <jonnyb> xavi: thanks, but don't worry too much
[09:58] <xavi> ok
[09:58] <jonnyb> hopefully we'll get it all fixed up for 8
[09:59] <xavi> ok
[09:59] <xavi> does it mean "green light" for releasing 7.1, then?
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[10:06] <luciash> hi xavi
[10:06] <xavi> hi luciash
[10:09] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35708 10/branches/7.x/templates/modules/mod-search.tpl: [FIX] search module: More recovery from unified search changes (titles and edit buttons)
[10:10] <jonnyb> xavi, no - i think we should wait for the fixes Stéphane has done in trunk for webdav to be backported, then release 7.1
[10:10] <xavi> jonnyb: well, sorry, yes you are right. I meant once those webdav fixes in trunk are backported to 7.x. I mean, no more blockers or issues delaying 7.1 release?
[10:11] <jonnyb> not as far as i'm concerned - the parsing thing is ongoing (i.e. i'm not fixing it ;) )
[10:12] <xavi> :-)
[10:13] * xavi smelling 7.1-release sometime in the nearfuture...
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[10:37] <Merbster> Does any of you guys know about the webservice plugin's internal workings?
[10:37] <Merbster> I'm currently running it through a debugger and when I test the service from where you register webservices in tikiwiki the parameters sent to the webservice plugin are read.
[10:38] <Merbster> but when I try to send parameters from where I include the webservice plugin (with the registered service) the webservice plugin filters out the values because the parameter is not named service or template.
[10:39] <xavi> Merbster: no idea myself. You'll have to ask "lph" here (when he is back) or at devel list
[10:40] <Merbster> http://pastebin.com/Zvrpt8cH <- this is the function that sets the parameters to " " if it's not defined in that array that contains "service" and "template" ?
[10:40] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35709 10/trunk/ (14 files in 10 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/7.x 35623 to 35708
[10:40] <Merbster> If I find out this is a bug do I really have to setup acess to tiki's svn and everything? or is there an easier way to submit bug fixes?
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[11:00] <Merbster> any regexp ninjas here?
[11:03] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35710 10/trunk/lib/ (TikiWebdav/Backend/File.php filegals/filegallib.php): [FIX] WebDAV really use filename for files...
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[11:15] <Bernard1> I'm trying to connect in TikiW using LDAP (AD). I have activated "Write LDAP debug Information in Tiki Logs:" and i have set in LDAP.php $this->options['debug']       = true;
[11:16] <Bernard1> i try to connect, i have an error invalid username and there is strictly nothing in tiki-syslog.php.
[11:16] <Bernard1> hu !
[11:16] <Merbster> http://pastebin.com/Zvrpt8cH <- Is this code supposed to remove "service" and "template" if they are set as  parameters in the plugin ? (it's only 7 lines)
[11:16] <Merbster> Bernard1, Which tiki version?
[11:16] <Bernard1> 6.4
[11:17] <Merbster> If your LDAP query string is longer than 200 chars TikiWiki fails
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[11:17] <Merbster> the database that saves the query string is limited, and the php code will just chomp off whatever is longer than 200 chars
[11:17] <Merbster> so if your AD description is something like "My very long company name" plus all the other user details, it's quite easy to pass this limitation
[11:18] <Merbster> Bernard1, I made a workaround. But it's based on tiki 6.1 ldap module
[11:18] <Bernard1> ok but this will explain why i don;t see a single information on the log (not even a failed to) ?
[11:18] <Merbster> Bernard1, setting up ldap for loggin can be a bit tricky and currently I don't remember what we did to make it work.
[11:18] <Bernard1> concentrate, let's flow you anger ! :D
[11:19] <Merbster> But I'd check my settings again. Remember if you have installed a transalation package the settings won't be found if you use the english words for it (because some settings are translated and others are not)
[11:20] <Bernard1> OH !
[11:20] <Bernard1> that's interesting about language… let me check
[11:20] <Merbster> Bernard1, if you like I can send you the ldap module I modified, but it's from 6.1 (currently running in 6.3)
[11:20] <Bernard1> be happy bsfez@shocksite.com
[11:21] <Bernard1> this tw was multilinguale pages in hebrew
[11:22] <Bernard1> i changed to en only… still nothing (but my feature change) in the logs…
[11:23] <Bernard1> it is like tw is not even looking the "invalid username" appear right away
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[11:33] <Merbster> Bernard1, you got mail
[11:33] <Bernard1> Merbster: tks
[11:33] <Merbster> Bernard1, I cannot say if this will fix your problem. but the symptons seems like it. In any case, do a backup! :P
[11:34] <Bernard1> sure, i'll let you know
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[12:02] <Merbster> How well are the different modules maintained?
[12:03] <Merbster> I can see that the webservices module is from tiki 3.x has it ever been possible to just throw parameters at a plugin and it will take them without question?
[12:04] <Merbster> I've spent the last 3 hours running this through a debugger and I can find no code path that manages to pass the parameters correctly.
[12:04] <Merbster> except in the registering part under admin. but I define the parameters' values in a form there (whicH I expect are calling the webservice directly, thus going around the standard plugin parameter handling)
[12:05] <jonnyb> Merbster: that's a LPH thing as xavi said, best to mail him via the dev list
[12:05] <Merbster> jonnyb, excuse my ignorance, but dev list ?
[12:06] <jonnyb> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=tikiwiki-devel
[12:06] <jonnyb> it's where most of the discussion about development issues take place
[12:07] <Merbster> I was under the impression it was hanled through the development areas of tikiwiki.org
[12:07] <Merbster> it's the first time I see this sourceforge link :P
[12:08] <jonnyb> you might want to check out this page too: http://dev.tiki.org/TikiDevNewbie
[12:09] <Merbster> I am ashamed to say so but I have never used a mailing list before, I see it as something old fashined. but I guess there's a first for everything :)
[12:09] <jonnyb> some stuff happens on dev.t.o - and here, but the list is best for questions to people who aren't around
[12:09] <Bernard1> Merbster: ok at last i have a "Bind succesful" but still no login
[12:10] <jonnyb> more old fashioned than IRC? :P
[12:10] <Merbster> Bernard1, are you getting entries in the log now?
[12:10] <Bernard1> y
[12:10] <Merbster> Bernard1, I did not configure the AD end of it. So i can't help you with the setup, but when SJ-Jay is back again he might be able to give you some pointers.
[12:11] <Bernard1> from the log with one user i got a bind successful, with another i have invalid credential…. but for both tw say : Invalid username.
[12:11] <Bernard1> k tks
[12:13] <Merbster> jonnyb, dev.t.o is shorthand for what? 
[12:13] <Merbster> dev.tiki.org ?
[12:13] <jonnyb> yup! :)
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[12:14] <Merbster> oh this is nice. :)
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[12:14] <Merbster> hello lphuberdeau :)
[12:16] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, can you tell me how the webservice plugin takes the "user defined" parameters? - the docs says that there's a "param" parameter where you can specify the parameters for the webservice, but I can find no such parameter in the webservice plugin defintion, besides the standard $params var that is in all plugin definitions.
[12:17] <Merbster> I dropped the plugin alias way of going about this and I have defined a webservice template in the webservice registration UI. (which works) 
[12:17] <sylvieg> Bernard1: the AD user is created in tiki - so the user name must satisfy tiki username rukles
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[12:18] <luciash> hi again
[12:18] <luciash> i haven't received any e-mail from the dev list second day already... is it just me ?
[12:19] <Bernard1> Hi Sylvie, this should be ok (firstname lastname en). What i don't get is that i see on the log "Bind successful" but on the second browser TW say invalid username or password.
[12:20] <Merbster> Bernard1, have you tried to switch out the ldap.php file in /lib/auth with the 6.1 version?
[12:20] <Merbster> It was the only way we worked around that problem.
[12:20] <Bernard1> "underway" :)
[12:20] <Merbster> Allthough it's an ugly solution.
[12:24] <Bernard1> got to go
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[12:29] <lphuberdeau> Merbster, plugin aliases are too complex, I'll need to revisit them at some point, I know, as for the webservice plugin, I think it's a parameter that contains one long string with bunch of arguments... has not always been that way, not too sure
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[12:30] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, wikiplugin_webservicelib.php defines only: url, service, template and bodyname
[12:31] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, url will disable the registered webservice and it's defined template (if I understood the docs correctly) and I saw if it was bodyname but it seems it only defines the body as a parameter
[12:31] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, I guess it all boils down to: am I using the plugin incorrectly or should I write a bugfix and submit it?
[12:32] <lphuberdeau> well, if there is a bug, fixing it seems like the right course
[12:33] <Merbster> The only way I can see to fix it is to define wikiplugin_webservice to accept a new parameter that defines the webservice's url parameters and then inserts it' the correct place where it does the webservice query?
[12:34] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, I just wanted to make sure it was a bug and I did not misunderstand something. Yet the documentation defines a "params" parameter that should reiceve the webservice's url parameters in this format: parm1=val&parm2=val&parm3=val etc.
[12:34] <lphuberdeau> looking at the plugin, there is a params parameter
[12:35] <lphuberdeau> which is url-encoded
[12:35] <lphuberdeau> and it gets merged back into the main params value
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[12:36] <lphuberdeau> and those are parameters that are in the webservice URL as far as I can see
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[12:38] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, hwo can it recieve that parameter if it's not defined in wikiplugin_webservice? I can only see the standard parameters array. I assumed I did not have the ability to write to it.
[12:39] <lphuberdeau> testing...
[12:39] <Merbster> I can't help but feel that I'm annoying with all these stupid questions.
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[12:42] <lphuberdeau> just stuff I have not played with in a long time
[12:42] <Merbster> I am thinking about the sheer amount of questions I have been loading off here the last month or so.
[12:43] <ricks99> @Merbster: That's standard Tiki newbie process. :-) Just search the forums to see the 100s of Qs *I* asked when I started.
[12:43] <Merbster> ricks99, thanks, you made me feel alot better ;)
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[12:44] <lphuberdeau> Merbster, we're just counting on you to hang around and take care of the next guy ;)
[12:44] * ricks99 thinks the Tiki dev community is about as open and inviting as I've ever seen in opensource
[12:44] <Merbster> ofcourse I will help as much as I can.
[12:45] <Merbster> I agree ricks99 
[12:45] <Merbster> I hung around the linux community once... now THAT's a aggressive bunch :P
[12:47] * lphuberdeau changes some code to be able to test
[12:49] <lphuberdeau> I just think it would be a good thing that our webservices work with the webservice API
[12:50] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, Do you mean the standard webservice API in PHP ?
[12:51] <lphuberdeau> in tiki
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[12:51] <Merbster> oh.
[12:59] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r35711 10/trunk/lib/ointegratelib.php: [MOD] Get the webservices to go through Zend_Http_Client to benefit from all the authentication magic
[13:01] <luciash> re-polom
[13:01] <luciash> why is it advised not to use space in Tiki Profiles names ?
[13:01] <lphuberdeau> the profile parser can't cope with them
[13:02] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, So should I write a bug fix or am I using the module in an incorrect way?
[13:02] <luciash> lphuberdeau: ah, so should i presume the profile "Countries By Region" is not working even marked as "release" status ?
[13:03] <lphuberdeau> it sure needs to be renamed to work
[13:04] <lphuberdeau> well, it's mostly if you want to reference to it
[13:04] <lphuberdeau> it might work alone
[13:04] <luciash> lphuberdeau: ah, that gives sense now
[13:04] <luciash> lphuberdeau: the developer probably tested it only alone
[13:04] <luciash> i will rename it while on it
[13:05] <lphuberdeau> Merbster: this worked for me
[13:05] <lphuberdeau> {WEBSERVICE(service=listitems params="trackerId=15")}
[13:05] <lphuberdeau> {{$response.trackerId}}
[13:05] <lphuberdeau> {WEBSERVICE}
[13:05] <lphuberdeau> trackerId  being in the response
[13:07] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, I have registered the webservice here: tiki-admin.php?page=webservices
[13:07] <Merbster> and then I define a template there. because I need HTML to present the data
[13:07] <Merbster> I don't know if that makes a difference?
[13:07] <lphuberdeau> you can define the plugin in the registered service too I believe
[13:08] <Merbster> yes that is what I am doing
[13:09] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, I have several input parameters though: here is how I call the webservice plugin: {WEBSERVICE(template=medarbejdsagsoverbliktpl,service=medarbejdsagsoverblik, params="brugerId=A&startDato=01-01-1900 00:00:00&planPerioder=4&medarbejderId=A")/}
[13:10] <Merbster> Do I have to define which template I want to use or can it figure that out by itself I have I defined a template where I registered the webservice?
[13:10] <lphuberdeau> the template name should do
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[13:12] <Merbster> I don't see the params' value anywhere in the code that handles the parameters.
[13:12] <Merbster> like wikiplugin_webservice.php doesn't pass it to the rest of the plugin.
[13:14] <lphuberdeau> I can confirm it does, because the issue I have now is with rendering, result comes back as expected
[13:14] <lphuberdeau> at least, in trunk
[13:14] <Merbster> This is tiki 6.3 though.
[13:14] <Merbster> i have looked at the wishlist/buglist for webservices plugin and I found no reported bugs.
[13:16] <lphuberdeau> I can't help you with 6.3, too far back for me to worry about
[13:16] <Merbster> So if I upgrade to 6.4 you will help me?
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[13:18] <lphuberdeau> I don't handle 6.x
[13:19] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, ok. well thanks for your help so far.
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[13:20] <lphuberdeau> I confirm everything works as expected in trunk
[13:20] <lphuberdeau> only detail I hung on was that when you register a template, it uses the normal {$smarty} delimiters instead of the {{$double}} ones used from the plugin
[13:21] <Merbster> I get a result from the webservice
[13:21] <Merbster> but the parameters I try to send to the webservice doesn't go trhough
[13:21] <Merbster> So I get a result from the webservice telling me I supplied invalid parameters for it
[13:21] <lphuberdeau> try taking the webservice plugin from trunk
[13:22] <Merbster> I will look at the different versions and see if I can backport the changes.
[13:23] <lphuberdeau> it does not look like it changed so much, but it's likely that some parameter handling changed
[13:24] <Merbster> ok.
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[13:36] <luciash> what is the quickest way to check which rev number is the released Tiki version ? i want to svn up exactly to the revision Tiki 6.4 was released with
[13:37] <lphuberdeau> switch to tags/6.4
[13:37] <luciash> svn switch ?
[13:37] <lphuberdeau> yes
[13:37] <luciash> okie, thx
[13:38] <lphuberdeau> you get tags for all releases, betas, release candidates, ... everything that gets packaged, because packaging is done from the tag
[13:45] <luciash> cool
[13:45] <luciash> looks like it is r35711 :)
[13:47] <lphuberdeau> no, that's the latest rev ;)
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[13:48] <chibaguy> polom
[13:50] <jonnyb> hi chibaguy 
[13:54] <luciash> lphuberdeau: ah, anyway, thanks for the tip with switch to tags
[13:55] <luciash> hi chibaguy 
[13:55] <Merbster> lphuberdeau, Just to inform you, the params parameter is only existant in tiki 7 and forward. both tiki 6.3 and 6.4 did not have them in wikiplugin_webservices.php
[13:56] <lphuberdeau> I think it used to be normal parameters
[13:59] <chibaguy> hi jonnyb and luciash
[13:59] <chibaguy> and everyone
[14:00] <SJ-Jay> hey chibaguy 
[14:00] <SJ-Jay> :)
[14:00] <jonnyb> polom
[14:11] <chibaguy> hi SJ-Jay
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r35712 10/branches/7.x/ (5 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix WebDAV in Tiki7 backport of fixes from trunk
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [FIX/bp r35619 ] fix permission checking in Tikilib::get_perm_object(), it seems that the line :
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki:  $perms->setGroups($userlib->list_all_groups());
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: is needed, it should be in the method Perms::get() I suppose but isn't for some reason...
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [FIX/bp r35619] Clean up the call to get_files() in WebDAV...
[14:11] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [FIX/bp r35620] Fix WebDAV after revamp of some function in filegallib.php
[14:30] <luciash> huh ? i tried to go to tiki-install.php to update my db and all i get is this → ADONewConnection: Unable to load database driver '' Invalid db object passed to TikiDB constructor
[14:30] <luciash> Tiki 6.4
[14:31] <luciash> but in db/local.php i have it commented out: #$api_tiki='adodb';
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[14:33] <luciash> even when i delete that line it still cries about ADONewConnection ... isn't it used for ADOdb only ?
[14:35] <luciash> weird, it would mean nobody could install the release, nope ?
[14:35] <luciash> if there was a bug like this
[14:38] <luciash> eh, actually it works when i add the line back and uncomment
[14:38] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r35714 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_dialog.php: [NEW] dialog plugin: Create a jQuery UI dialog on a page, with definable buttons and actions, and ability to use a wiki page as the dialog body. Fine tuning and more params to come.
[14:38] <jonnyb> sounds odd (and bad) luciash 
[14:39] <luciash> i didn't know PDO uses the ADONewConnection function as well
[14:39] <jonnyb> you say 6.4 only works on adodb?
[14:39] <luciash> seems i am missing the pdo driver on my localhost php install
[14:39] <jonnyb> oh, ok - yes, the handling for that's never been very pretty
[14:39] <luciash> but the message confused me
[14:40] <luciash> jonnyb: sounds odd that i don't have pdo driver on my localhost too ;)
[14:41] <jonnyb> indeed
[14:43] <luciash> gosh, another one: Missing file: /home/luci/...../tiki6/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql improved (mysqli).inc.php
[14:43] <jonnyb> off out - mbbl
[14:43] <luciash> :-o !
[14:43] <jonnyb> hmm, sounds like svn switch has messed up?
[14:43] <luciash> c u jonnyb 
[14:43] <jonnyb> happens sometimes
[14:43] <luciash> the file name sounds weird
[14:44] <jonnyb> make sure you have the directory specified ./  and try adding --force
[14:44] <jonnyb> true - like something old out of the installer
[14:44] <luciash> yep yep :-/
[14:44] <jonnyb> caches all flushed presumably?
[14:44] <luciash> ah, nope, will try
[14:44] <jonnyb> try and svn st to see what's going on with that
[14:45] <jonnyb> :P
[14:45] <jonnyb> ok, off now really (wine to buy - it's France!)
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[14:45] <luciash> sure
[14:46] <luciash> eh, it seems it needs when using adodb driver explicitly specified in local.php another line: $db_tiki='mysqli';
[14:57] <lphuberdeau> that has always been the case
[14:59] <sylvieg> I have a doubt .. in the new tracker suntax (tracker trackerId=1} without closing tracker tag, is it correct?
[14:59] * sylvieg still using the old syntax
[15:00] <lphuberdeau> {tracker trackerId=1}
[15:00] <lphuberdeau> yes
[15:01] <sylvieg> I do not need {tracker trackerId=1}{tracker}?
[15:01] <lphuberdeau> it's really like the old {img src=...}, but for all plugins
[15:01] <lphuberdeau> that short syntax can't have a body
[15:01] <sylvieg> ok thanks
[15:01] <sylvieg> will update the doc
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[15:27] <luciash> sylvieg: {tracker trackerId=1}{tracker} wouldn't work anyway. you'd need {TRACKER(trackerId=1)}{TRACKER} instead
[15:28] <luciash> otherwise the parsing would presume you want two tracker plugins next to each other
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[16:59] <ricks99> need help with a 6.x site.... Tiki is "loosing" user login status when accessing some pages via SEFULs.
[16:59] <ricks99> for example: accessing foo.bar/tiki-index.php?page=foo works fine, but foo.bar/foo indicates "not logged in"
[16:59] <ricks99> any ideas/suggestions?
[17:15] <chealer> polom
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[17:28] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r35716 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations
[17:37] <chealer> ricks99: only some pages accessed via SEFURLs? do you have examples?
[17:38] <ricks99> getting numerous, random reports from end-users. the (1) log in (2) go to a members-only page (3) click a link to another members-only page, and are no longer logged in -- prompted to login.
[17:38] <ricks99> sometimes wiki pages from menus (when using SEFURL) also get folks "logged out"
[17:39] <ricks99> i've temporarily disabled SEFURL, but we have lots links from external sources that use the sefurl name.
[17:39] <ricks99> could there b an issue in my htaccess? I don't even know what to look for :(
[17:41] <sylvieg> ricks99: can it be a www/ no www access?
[17:43] <ricks99> I have the "Domain prefix handling" set to "Leave as-is". I'm starting to think it is something with htaccess or mod_rewrite. adding (or removing) the tiki-index.php?page= from the url will work
[17:43] <ricks99> usually
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[17:51] <chealer> ricks99: so you don't know any URL that (sometimes) causes the problem?
[17:52] <ricks99> not url-specific. that i can discover. a user will log in, be clicking among pages a links. and *poof* suddently they're no longer logged in, can't access member-only content (pages, file galleris, etc.)
[17:55] <ricks99> have even experienced myself (as admin). suddenly after a few clicks, im no longer logged in!
[17:57] <chealer> ricks99: I understand, but you don't have an *example* URL that [sometimes] causes the problem?
[17:59] <ricks99> Yes. I am logged in as admin. When I go to http://www.stc-techedit.org/tiki-index.php?page=Volunteer+Agendas+and+Minutes I see the page, as expected. However, if i change the URL to http://www.stc-techedit.org/Volunteer+Agendas+and+Minutes i am no longer logged in and Tiki displays the login box
[17:59] <ricks99> am on the site right now
[18:01] <chealer> ricks99: then when you hit back, you're logged in again, right?
[18:01] <ricks99> yes. or if i manually change the url and reload. correct
[18:03] <chealer> ricks99: are there pages for which that does not happen?
[18:03] <ricks99> no issue for pages that are visible to anonymous
[18:07] <chealer> ricks99: what is an example page visible to anonymous?
[18:07] <ricks99> pages that are visible to anonymous dont have an issue.
[18:11] * ricks99 hoping chealer has an idea....
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[18:16] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r35717 10/trunk/lib/core/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Limit synchronized fields to those that specify the required interface
[18:19] <chealer> ricks99: but what is an example of such a page?
[18:20] <ricks99> HomePage
[18:24] <chealer> ricks99: so if you go from http://www.stc-techedit.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage to http://www.stc-techedit.org/HomePage you stay logged in?
[18:24] <ricks99> checking...
[18:25] <ricks99> hm... i stand corrected. I'm still logged out (just never noticed, because the page is still visible)
[18:27] <ricks99> very strange, right?
[18:28] <chealer> ricks99: OK. so, is there any SEFURL that keeps you logged in that you know?
[18:28] <ricks99> apparently not
[18:29] <Warkster> How are category permissions combined? If Category1 grants only Group1 access, and Category2 grants only Group2 access, when I apply both categories to a single object, how do those permission read?
[18:30] <ricks99> @Warkster: theres another category option to specify if users need perm for *all* or only *one* Look on admin: category page (I think)
[18:33] <chealer> ricks99: if you log in from a SEFURL, do you stay logged in when you go back to a SEFURL?
[18:33] <ricks99> will check...
[18:36] <Warkster> ricks99: Would that be in 6.3? I can't find it.
[18:36] <ricks99> went to http://www.stc-techedit.org/login to log in....
[18:36] <ricks99> .... stayed logged in for http://www.stc-techedit.org/tiki-index.php?page=Volunteer+Agendas+and+Minutes but logged out for http://www.stc-techedit.org/Volunteer+Agendas+and+Minutes
[18:36] <ricks99> highly frustrating :(
[18:39] <ricks99> @Warkster: believe so, but can't recall 100%
[18:41] <lphuberdeau> ricks99, that option is pre-4.0
[18:41] <ricks99> oh.
[18:43] <sylvieg> and ricks99 if you go back to  http://www.stc-techedit.org/tiki-index.php?page=Volunteer+Agendas+and+Minutes  are you log in or out?
[18:44] <Warkster> So that means that users must always qualify for all category permissions?
[18:45] <chealer> Warkster: category permissions are additive - the union of permissions is used
[18:45] <lphuberdeau> permissions between multiple categories apply as a OR
[18:46] <Warkster> Roger, thanks.
[18:46] <chealer> ricks99: do you know Firecookie or Web Developer? these allow you to see cookie information
[18:48] <ricks99> using IE. but i have the dev toolbar and can view cookies
[18:48] <ricks99> what should i be looking for?
[18:49] <chealer> ricks99: is the problem browser-specific?
[18:49] <ricks99> nope. happens in ff, too
[18:49] <ricks99> (can't blame *everything* on MS) ;-)
[18:52] <chealer> ricks99: you use IE as your main browser?!
[18:52] <ricks99> and windows as my main OS ;-)
[18:53] <ricks99> what can i tell you ;-P
[18:55] <Jyhem> It's OK: someone has to test Tiki on IE. I, for one, appreciate your dedication :-)
[18:55] <ricks99> like it or not, IE still represents a (large) portion of the market. :-)
[18:55] <chealer> Marc is really a bad influence on this community
[18:55] <Warkster> Is there a way to apply categories to file galleries and their children?
[18:56] * ricks99 but then rick also likes NASCAR, so there's no telling with him ;)
[18:57] <Jyhem> which is why I appreciate that someone (else than myself) uses it on Tiki :-)
[18:57] <chealer> ricks99: I would tell you to check cookie paths, but I don't have IE on this OS. I'm more used to Web Developer
[18:57] * Jyhem googles nascar
[18:58] <ricks99> they look fine (from what I can see). domain is correct. path is /
[18:58] <ricks99> @Jyhem: OMG!
[18:59] <chealer> ricks99: well, could you verify that the cookies are being transmitted in the request?
[18:59] <Jyhem> @ricks99 : not sure, but it does not look obviously evil
[18:59] <ricks99> @chealer: hmm... i see *some* with domain www.stc-techedit.org, and *others* simply as *stc-techedit.org*
[19:00] <ricks99> what is the cookie name tiki uses to track login session?
[19:01] <Jyhem> what are the cookie paths ?
[19:01] <ricks99> path is simply: /
[19:02] * ricks99 wondering if it is server setting issue... i haven't seen this on any other sites
[19:03] <Jyhem> so it matches both  http://www.stc-techedit.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage and http://www.stc-techedit.org/HomePage - Not an interesting investigation path
[19:12] <chealer> ricks99: tiki-user-tikiwiki
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[19:15] <sylvieg> ricks99: sone servers have other applications that kills the tiki sessions
[19:15] <ricks99> gotta step out for a bit. if you can think of somehting for me to try/investigate, pls post
[19:15] <ricks99> tx all
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[19:53] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r35718 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_wysiwyg.php: [FIX] plugin WYSIWYG: raw HTML when using wiki editor
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[20:05] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r35719 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Rating.php: [FIX] Mix indent, trailing spaces
[20:13] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r35720 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ (11 files): [MOD] Adding Synchronizable to all fields where the value is context-independent
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[20:41] <Warkster> Is there a way to modify the category on multiple objects at once?
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[20:47] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r35721 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] UI enhancements to better explain what is going on and hide controls when they cannot be used
[20:47] <lphuberdeau> in Tiki7, check out tiki-edit_categories.php
[20:51] <Warkster> lphuberdeau: Thanks, we have 6.3 right now, might upgrade just for that.
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[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35722 10/trunk/ (10 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [MOD] Renamed flexibleCodeMirror to flexibleSyntaxHighlighter
[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [NEW] Created new object for codemirror calls: "syntaxHighlighter" since new coders may not know what codemirror is and since it fulfills a purpose
[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [NEW] Moved anything to do with codemirror into syntaxHighlighter fo easy api replacement and modification
[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [FIX] A bunch of code cleanup in codemirror_tiki.js
[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [MOD] Renamed the tiki highlighter to tikiwiki
[21:26] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: [FIX] Fixed a few UI issues with codemirror integration, font is still acting funning
[21:36] <Tiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: Repair Tikiwiki - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=41882
[21:50] <Warkster> lphuberdeau: hmm, it seems that the "Organize Categories" doesn't work
[21:51] <Warkster> "Select All/Unselect All" doesn't seem to work, nor do the documented "+/-" display after selecting sub pages
[21:51] <Warkster> *specific categories
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[22:33] <CIA-88> tikiwiki: 03chealer * r35724 10/trunk/lib/init/tra.php: tra_impl(): remove unused argument no_interactive
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[23:03] <ybbob4269> hey guys
[23:04] <ybbob4269> Im new to tiki and am a little lost, didn't know if anyone could help with somthing that im sure is a simple task
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[23:29] <Spark> is there a way to search for dead links to pages or images?
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