polom lphuberdeau
I'm just going thru Security Admin ... should "upload_tmp_dir" be accessible from browser? ... I'm seeing this message "cannot check if the upload_tmp_dir is accessible via web browser. To be sure you should check your webserver config"
polom
morning chealer :)
hi kstingel! upload_tmp_dir shouldn't be world-readable, no
good, so I can safely ignore the "unknown" status ... had me worried for a second; on live server I have my tmp dir above public_html, so it's safe too
next question ... I created a folder under experimental where I can put my HTML5 template fixes (making them fully compliant as I can), how do I copy tags/7.1 into it?
or should I only commit the compliant pages as I fix them?
*chuckles to self* what can I say? I have a pathological aversion to (IDE) squiggles in my code ... that, and I need to learn correct HTML5 coding
hmm .... what is "WS" as referred to in tiki-index.php (comments, line 68)?
kstingel: WorkSpace (meaning a perspective)
kstingel: did you see Gary's message on your branch?
nope, in here or via email?
... email client doesn't wanna play today, is still retrieving mail
ahh, finally arrived ... reading message(s) now
This is Marc typing on Jyhem's computer via Jitsi's desktop sharing
kstingel: on the tikiwiki-devel mailing list
Yes, and this is Jyhem who can still control his computer. awesome
hi Jyhem_laptop_hijacked
or mediumjacked
chealer: thanks, I found 3 copies of it, am just sending off a reply now
it's a friendly "remote" (2.5m) hijacking :-)
but it actually works fine
kstingel: I don't understand "I (we) could safely test for from the 7.1 release without the possibility of inadvertently breaking a page by changing things we shouldn't."
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has anyone experienced that TikiWIki cannot fetch pictures from the database sometimes?
If we reboot the server, it will work, but only for a period and then all pictures stored in filegallery is turning into "dead links"
poloms
Hello! I need help with my Titanium Backup.. after I reinstall all the apps and reboot my phone, my HOME and SEARCH buttons stop being functional
hello?
?
santi? Titanium Backup? HOME and SEARCH buttons?
are you sure that you are posting at the right irc channel?
polom
rrr. Flash plugin is broken in Tiki 7, for files in Tiki galleries, looks like.
I get a "Flash player not available" message, which then disappears and the space is created for the video but nothing displays there.
tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r35819 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-logout.php: [FIX] [bp - not sure which] fix to correct logout when useGroupHome is 'y'. Was applied to trunk some time ago but wasn't backported to 6.x so missed the recent 6.4 release
This happened in the past, then worked for a while thanks to luciash's fixing.
But apparently is broken again.
This is another thing that seems to break every other Tiki version (like paragraph formatting, etc.) at least in my experience.
I ended up using Flowplayer, in the page as HMTL, no plugins :-|.
The mediaplayer plugin is also broken, it seems.
So no easy way to play videos from Tiki file galleries, unless I'm missing something (quite possible).
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35820 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Image.php: [MOD] Misspell
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35821 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] French => 84%
does anyone know if we can combine perspectives with trackers? I have i tracker which registers companies.. theese tracker items are specific per perspective project (perspective) i only want to show the trackers which were created in a specific perspective
if you create a tracker item in a category jail, will the tracker item automagically inherit the categoires defined in that jail?
If a group has a specific view access for a tracker, shouldn't that exclude other groups from viewing that tracker?
chibaguy, Sounds logical, but I am not certain how Tikiwiki actually does it.
Normally, assigning a group permission bans other groups ("A and only A can view")
Like if you have subgroups that are registered users but you want to separate them, like divisions in a company.
But I've assigned Tracker A the object permissions "view" and "list" only to Group A, so I don't know why a Group B user can still see them (Tiki 7).
Well, sh*t, anonymous can see all these trackers. Apparently I'm doing something wrong. ;-)
ah, remove anon's perms for trackers. ;-)
If I do a smarty template for a pretty tracker
is it possilbe to make a hidden input field that feeds one of the Tracker Fields?
We need to resolve and define a category of the tracker item automatically
I know that tiki exposes a current page's categories in a variable directly. So I should be able to access that variable from a smarty template for a pretty tracker.
unless they do not share the same smarty instance.
Hmm, if I remove all the global permissions and assign only object permissions for Tracker A, then my Group A can't see it or any trackers.
chibaguy, that sounds weird. I wish I could help
Well, the perms interface has been overhauled and before I thought it worked pretty well, but this is the first time I've had to try it for trackers.
But the logic seems to have changed.
I don't know why I'm getting "ou do not have permission to use this feature: tiki_p_list_trackers" when the user's group has that perm for at least one tracker.
ou -> you
chibaguy, is the tiki_p_list_trackers pr. tracker or a general setting?
chibaguy, you're saying "for atleast one tracker" Does the group/user have acess to the tracker where the permission is defined?
yes
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35822 10/trunk/templates/tiki-export_tracker.tpl: [MOD] Missing tr tags
Merbster: sorry, I'm still trying to see what's going on.
If Group A has access for trackers globally, then its members can access all the trackers, even those that have a tracker with an object perm that says only Group B can access.
even those that have only a Group B access perm, that is.
If I remove the global access perm for trackers for Group A, then it can't see any trackers, even the ones that have a Group A object-level perm.
So it seems to be all or none for these groups and trackers.
I need to assign forums the same way, so I'll see how that goes.
hmm.. pictures from trackers does not work.. are tracker pictures saved in the db or the file location?
SJ-Jay: that's configurable, on the Admin Trackers page
iki-admin.php?page=trackers
default seems to be db.
OK, for forums, If Group B has specific viewing perms for Forum B, then Group A can't see it. That's the way it's supposed to work.
thx will have a look at it :)
hmm.. either way images are not shown when attached to a tracker :S
the tracker item list just shows a cross.. the same if i show the tracker item
polom
anyone sucessful using the "copy to clipboard" feature in plugin code?
not working for me in 6.4 LTS
hi xavi: sorry, no experience there.
hi chibaguy. thanks for feedback, anyway :-)
SJ-Jay: tiki version?
6.3
s/othes/others
mmm...
xavi, I'm glad it's useful. I think we'll have a more comprehensive grid system in Tiki soon, for more flexibility, etc.
chibaguy: remember to update the links and or pages from here: http://themes.tiki.org/Tips
then, when the system changes
that "tips" page is a life-saver for me very frequently to find those pages that I usually didn't find in theems.t.o
SJ-Jay: well, no idea (haven't read the whole thread). images uploaded to trackers are working for me in a 6.4 site (running proposals in fact). Example: http://intercanvis.net
trackerlist underneath, where it says "Ofertes" and "Demandes"
showing images that users upload with their tracker items
in my case, I'm using files on disk (no in db)
yeah same here! or at least i'm trying to..
but files are not saved in the directory i configured
mmm, that sounds a permission problem, then
did you try 777 on that folder?
using windows server :)
or try with an absolute path instead of a relative path
oups, sorry, I have no experience with that foreign world
but i've got file gallery and image gallery configured the same which is working fine
no idea. good luck
haha thx :)
:-)
haha
:D
it's hard to compare MS tech only on their client OS.
Let's just agree that both solutions have their strengths and weaknesses and the real noobs are the ones who default to a solution without analyzing the problem and the strengths/weaknesses of that particular solution in that particular scenario.
yeah.. they actually did a really good job with the newer versions of their server OS, and all other solutions like virtual machine management and asset management
I trust you all
SJ-Jay: Wade Hilmo came from MS to talk with us at a TikiFest in Montreal a while back. He's apparently one of the main IIS guys.
while FREEDOM is smaller in one of those two worlds... 
http://youtu.be/5_DYe96oIvE
nice! :D
xavi, sometimes easy integrating and modularity is more important than "freedom"
not in the long term, afaik
You're allways free to write your own integration software (glueware?) But usually it's cheaper just buying an out of the box solution from a company and get a fat nice support package. :P
Hello SJ,Merbster, Hola Xavi, Konishuwa Chibaguy, and polom to all others. :)
'lo Bernard1 :)
:) hi Bernard1
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aarg! going nuts!
please someone.. give me a pill
SJ-Jay:  that's a really weird smiley there.
chibaguy, you should see his face IRL then :P
I'm thinking it's a Tiki totem pole lying sideways.
actually.. it's just my me unleashing my fury
ho, glad it was virtual.
yeah.. you should see merbster.. he'll be blue and yellow soon..
someone needs to taste my fists if i don't get this tracker *** working!
ah, you're going to end up in a cubicle with rubber walls.
ohh dear.
chibaguy, how did you know what our office looks like? :-O
well, starting to put the pieces together.
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35823 10/trunk/templates/prefs/text.tpl: [MOD] Add   for french
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35824 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-download_file.php: [FIX]bad merge in 35813
i tried adding both fields (attachement/image) and can confirm that the attachement is saved on my network share but not the image
rodrigo_sampaio: it's strange because Tiki 6's modification date seem valid but I don't see anything in Old Stuff that was modified 2011-07-15.
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35825 10/trunk/lang/fr/ (language.js language.php): [TRA] French => 84%
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r35826 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] Misspell
Does anyone know what smarty instance plugintracker plugin uses when you supply it with a tpl template?
I would like to expose $objectCategoryIds in a template.
How would one go about adding a new Wiki Argument variable?
they are just taken from the URL
except for user and the default ones
not even sure what they are
Merbster: about smarty instance plugintracker: tpl, maybe?
lphuberdeau: hi. could you have a look at that issue with tracekrs in 7.x, not parsing properly wiki text inside a tracker "static" field type? 
lphuberdeau, I need to expose the categories of the current page to a tpl template, so that I can feed a field in a form with categories.
Because a tracker item will need the same categories as the page where it is called from.
xavi: not today
ok
Merbster: using pretty trackers?
yes
I think the page's categories should be in some variable somewhere
I tried {{$objectCategoryIds}} but smarty says it's undefined so smarty probably doesn't even have it in scope. (since nobody called $smarty->assign())
can't really look it up for you right now
lphuberdeau, don't. I will have to leave the office now.
might be $cat_objIds or something like that
I am certain that the page's current category id's are in  $objectCategoryIds since I use it in a perspective hack that sets perspective from the current page's categories.
smarty variables often have different names
I will look at it some other times. But thanks for your hints lphuberdeau :)
hi tikipeople - question about an install of 7.2 in a subdirectory. - some functions (create file gallery) fail because it forgets i am logged in (as admin) 
is there something i have to twiddle in admin>login to get it to work properly for a subdirectory install?
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35827 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] If you had "Content", "Content FR" and "Content::Subcontent" you would have gotten "Content::Subcontent" sorted after "Content FR" and therefore appear to be under the wrong parent category.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35828 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [bp/r35827][FIX] If you had "Content", "Content FR" and "Content::Subcontent" you would have gotten "Content::Subcontent" sorted after "Content FR" and therefore appear to be under the wrong parent category.
nkoth: did you forget about 7?
oh drats
i thought I was committing 7
no wonder Aptana told me resource out of date when I just svn up the whole thing liol
we have such Jedis today...
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r35829 10/branches/7.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [bp/r35827][FIX] If you had "Content", "Content FR" and "Content::Subcontent" you would have gotten "Content::Subcontent" sorted after "Content FR" and therefore appear to be under the wrong parent category.
it would never have happened if I was in command line, hah
hi comand-line-jedis :-)
mlpvolt: yes, there is param somewhere there to indicate the prefix-name of that subfolder
mlpvolt: moreover: ensure that you edit the .htaccess file, if you are using rewrite rules, since there is a setting that might be needed when in subfolders
hth
polom
hi xavi. is there such a param? where is it?
chealer: Admin home > Login > General preferences > Cookie > Path
6.x
hth
xavi: right. but that should be automatically adjusted (I'm not sure what's the use case for modifying it)
mlpvolt: do you use SEFURL-s?
chealer - had to turn it off same reason.
mlpvolt: but you still have issues when SEFURL-s is disabled or you just solved your problem?
yes it was after. wiki worked. filegallery not.
mlpvolt: I'm not sure I understand, unless you're saying you just solved your problem by disabling SEFURL-s and that before that the wiki worked but file galleries didn't.
sorry chealer i am in a voicemeeting at the moement but no the problem was lessened by turing off sefurl but for filegallerys did not go away it was impossible to create a file gallery
see you all (good luck mlpvolt)
....back - chealer i would say this is a 7 thing as i don't recall having this specific type of session failure before in my sandbox setup.
create a wiki structure is also not working.  sooo i think the rewrite rule is the fix that needs to happen. 
mlpvolt: ah :-)
mlpvolt: so what URLs are involved (from which URL to which URL does it happen)?
chealer: i sent you a email with the url
i had a similar issue with a 7 site in a subfolder a couple weeks ago. putting it in the site in its own account (public_html folder) made the issue go away.
mlpvolt: so how do I reproduce the issue?
create a file gallery
mlpvolt: hum, I see the problem. good question.
   the session is not lost though, you see you can edit wiki 
mlpvolt: does that happen at any time other than file gallery creation?
we just found that create wiki structure has the same problem
mlpvolt: yeah, and in fact the same URL that shows you're logged in works, say in another tab (when you don't submit the same POST data
should i insert a rewite base in the htaccess?
mlpvolt: there is absolutely no reason you should have to touch server config for this to work
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this is pretty close to hello world for this install
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mlpvolt: you get this with Tiki 7.x (SVN)?
yes
installed yesterday
mlpvolt: creating structures seems to work for me
mlpvolt: does it always fail for you?
i can poke around then ans see what happens.
filegal creation failed always for multiple users
chealer i can test on a clean install and log a ticket on dev
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mlpvolt: I just created a test gallery on my 7.x test install, updated it to r35829 and and tested again. both tests worked. the install is in a subdirectory.
interesting - well i gotta move the site to its own account anyway . . .
mlpvolt: try to figure out what determines if structure creation works or not and note other actions that cause the problem
ok will try - i can reset the db and work it out
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r35830 10/branches/7.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX]tracker: fix tracker group field when renaming a group
I have a question about watches. I want the watch to be restricted to categories, for example I have a TS cat which is associated with a structure of pages, and it can only view those pages, but it still gets watch notifications from other structures when pages are created in them. any way to limit the scope of a watch to a category?
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Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you!
 I have a question about watches. I want the watch to be restricted to categories, for example I have a TS cat which is associated with a structure of pages, and it can only view those pages, but it still gets watch notifications from other structures when pages are created in them. any way to limit the scope of a watch to a category?
Welcome to the official Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware channel. Please ask your question directly. Don't ask to ask. Someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay a while. Thank you!
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tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35831 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiParser/Experimental/ (PluginParser.jison PluginParser.js PluginParserTester.html): 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Nested parsing example shifted much of the code from the stack to Jison parser
tikiwiki: [NEW] Added {inline /} plugins as well
tikiwiki: Parser is now ready for live demo and we can now start working on integration if it is indeed what we want to use.
polom all
How is everyone doing today?
doing well hello robert.
mlpvolt: I'm wondering, what have been the limitations with the CHKeditor recently?
Anybody know?
Corry CKeditor
sorry
not me. - i am going to have to get the invoice feature a whirl though
you cant use maketoc so make a table of contents for the page
*to make
i have also had problems with embedding html in the wysiwyg.
I have started work that Marc asked me to do to create a new kinda unified parser using Jison, and I now have working example.  I wanted to get with Jonny and see if he had interest in using it in CHKeditor.
For those who'd like to test it: trunk/lib/core/WikiParser/Experimental/PluginParserTester.html
hi RobertPlummer!
mlpvolt: As far as invoice, I've came to a stop on it this week, I need to pick up on it soon, there is a big fix I need to add to trackers in order for it to be truly a "Tiki-App"
I will be working on that come early next week.
It needs some TLC, but is a non-funded project for now and is progressing slow.
hey chealer
or, um.. a- polom I mean.
For any who'd like to see something cool though, check out that parser at the above url on your trunk, it is live-editable. Pretty amazing if you think about it.
The initial phase was just a simple parser, but it could easily be a unified wysiwyg,
IE, no hacks, just done right.
We could probably even use it along with CKeditor.
RobertPlummer: wah, that's some cool stuff indeed :-)
chealer: I got to thinking about it, Codemirror and a sudo parser would be an awesome combo and would actually make it so that we don't need a third party WYSIWYG.
Not that CKeditor is bad, 
it just has a lot of overhead.
a sudo parser? what is that?
And what I have put together that is actually quite simple and nearly as useful with a bit of tweeking.
I wrote it in javascript, so it is a "fake" or sudo parser.
You see Jison is what I used to make the plugin language.
Jison is a language maker basically.
A bison clone for javascript.
So the reason why it is so nice is that javascript is very similar to php, I wrote a php version of the Jison output sometime back
It would need to be updated, but we would have a unified parser.
humk
One that acts the same in php and javascript.
So we can make a WYSIWYG very easily from it.
Now the parser is just 1 part of the whole system, how the languages are handled in php and javascript would be very different.
But it would give us a very stable platform, not a hack, to build whatever we want.
RobertPlummer: interesting. but what happens with server-side plugin calls?
ajax baby!
We need to remember that half of the battle is just allowing {PLUGIN()}{PLUGIN} to know it is a plugin, after he know what it is, filling it with content, wherever it comes from is not difficult.
It get's complex, when you start dealing with nested plugins,
plugins that return plugin syntax.
RobertPlummer: I see. if you think you have the architecture to implement that with reasonable resources, go ahead!
But as you can see in the example, Jison handles all of those with ease.
It is in the works, I just don't want to create something with no steam behind it.
Jonnyb seemed to have a lot of steam in CKeditor, and this would basically be a replacement for it.
Or it could be used along with it.
right. I think CKeditor doesn't have the capacity to really solve the plugin issue
RobertPlummer: where is the LI plugin defined?
in the html page.
they all are.
The parser is just a shell to call plugins, similar to the php.
Take a look at the .jison file, that is where everything is defined.
So get this...
oh, thanks, missing the obvious
Half of the issue we are going to run into with making a unified WYSIWYG editor is dual object synchronization... right?
yeah, but my Jison reading skills are limited :-S
It is just a simple lexer + yacc + regex script
RobertPlummer: I don't know what that means
chealer: just kidding
polom
Anyway, codemirror has the ability to insert and manipulare dom objects into the editor.
I think we can use that in a wysiwyg editor.
RobertPlummer: speaking about CodeMirror, thanks for the full screen fix. it's working really well now.
chealer: I do what I can.
I need to fix the language switching.
...one issue: when you insert something, the syntax always seems to be selected. I think an emoticon's syntax shouldn't be selected for example
in the example?
or in codemirror
RobertPlummer: no, I'm still looking at the example but that issue is with CodeMirror
ok
Which syntax is selected?  Can you give me a step by step example?  Sometimes it is hard to reproduce.
RobertPlummer: I put my cursor anywhere in a page and insert a biggrin smiley. then the inserted syntax ("(:biggrin:)") is selected.
After you insert it you mean?
RobertPlummer: yes
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Ok, and is it being inserted correctly?
RobertPlummer: yes, the new syntax is good, it's just the text selection I'm talking about.
ok, I'm on it.
chealer: should the cursor go before or after the inserted text?  I would think after.
RobertPlummer: I'm not an expert, but I would say after :-)
just like after typing a character, basically
RobertPlummer: that's what the classic editor does anyway
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r35832 10/trunk/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: [FIX] focus and text insertion
changi: svn up
RobertPlummer: done, that fixes it, thank you :-)
No problem.
Even added a .focus() event at the end...
Was that the last problem"
RobertPlummer: just trying to find a last problem... is color syntax supported (~~#06F:blue~~)? :-)
?
Not yet.
LOL
RobertPlummer: it was :-) color is not necessarily a problem
RobertPlummer: yeah, the focus really helps
RobertPlummer: I didn't check all of the experimental parser, but congrats for what you have so far!
Yea, it still has alittle work before it is at a point that it perfectly parses everything, but it seems to do the job without hesitation.
Thanks chealer 
(I never studied our current parser anyway, hopefully yours will be clean enough that I'll be willing to :-) )
polom
cannot find how do i move images from img gals to file gals in an upgraded Tiki
any ideas ?
:-/
:-\
i think we still have missing convert/move tool for the obsolete image galleries
did luciash get his answer?
RobertPlummer: no, he concluded "i think we still have missing convert/move tool for the obsolete image galleries"
I created a way of doing it, I just need some funding, a few hours, to create a tool to do so.
It isn't that hard, image galls really are file galls just in a different table.
RobertPlummer: I think I found a little bug in CodeMirror. the page break insertion tool appears to insert "......" instead of "...page...". can you reproduce?
I will and fix tomorrow.
Finishing up the day chealer, thanks for your input.