tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36033 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_poll.php: [FIX] POLL plugin: error page embedded in parse output when pollId is missing (from 1.1.2.1)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36034 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_zoterolist.php: [FIX] ZOTEROLIST plugin: Presumed bug when tag parameter is missing. untested
tikiwiki: 03jyhem * r36035 10/branches/6.x/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] This file was syntactically incorrect. Please just test the file before committing in stable branch.
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36037 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_list.php: [ENH] Allow for single page wiki template to be used for search formatting
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36038 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: This is used nowhere in the code
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36039 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_wysiwyg.php: documenting
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36040 10/trunk/lib/prefs/themegenerator.php: tagging Theme Generator as experimental
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36041 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_list.php: [MOD] Make regex more readable
hehe. I'm sure I'll appreciate that character removal if I have to read that regex one day :-P
the double escaping of the $ was kinda strange because in php $ suggests a var in double quotes but not single quotes
nkoth: oh, OK, didn't notice the quote changes
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36042 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: display_error(): remove comment. nothing calls ask_ticket('error') before, it's surely not required
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36043 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter.php: [MOD] No values in specific field results in search results should return blank instead of message
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36044 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_list.php: [FIX] Delay wiki parsing till later since included template will be parsed anyway later, otherwise plugins will not get proper display variables inserted before parsing
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36045 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-contact.tpl tiki-contact.php): Contact Us: cleanup code duplication from anonymous vs non-anonymous and generally update to current standards
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36046 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: display_error(): avoid uselessly including wikilib
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36047 10/trunk/ (49 files in 49 dirs): [FIX] ARTICLES plugin: "Filter the list of aricles by their {topic, topic ID, types}" -> "Filter the list of articles by {topic, topic ID, types}" in parameter descriptions
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36048 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_chart.php: CHART plugin type parameter description: disable translation. add TODO: make an actual description
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36049 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): COLORBOX plugin parsedescriptions parameter description: Hopefully clarify
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36050 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Don't translate "JS Calendar" as it's a proper noun
polom everyone!
polom everyone.
guys
can i style searchresults?
and change highlighting colors?
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36051 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [p/r35917] [FIX] French: use UTF-8 non-breaking space instead of HTML   (ported from 7.x after language.php conflict in r35951)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36052 10/trunk/get_strings.php: [FIX] language.php comments on non-breaking spaces (recovered from Jyhem's r35917)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36053 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Smarty {title} block escaping: Raw H1 titles
tikiwiki: Reverts r35417, which itself reverted r34309, which exposed a non-breaking space regression for French fixed in r36051 (thanks Jyhem)
Hi, I have seen tha the data from the pages it's not saving in html on the database, where it's the funcion witch change to html?
polom y'all
had a strange effect with r36052 clicking on admin-profiles-advanced adding a new repository and the advanced tab is the only one available. Apply Profiles and Export are gone. Other tabs in other areas are ok when changing values.  tested with fivealive theme. 
polom
hiya cibaguy
hi ricks99
double checked and between thuesday and above mantioned revision 36052 the tabs " Apply Profiles" and "Export" disapeared under section "Admin -Profiles" in trunk without interaction
polom back all 
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36054 10/trunk/lib/parser/ (WikiParser.jison WikiParser.js): 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Fixed plugin execution from inside out to outside in
tikiwiki: [ADD] no parse state for better overall analysis of syntax
general layout question: is there a chance to limit the witdth of user table display (eg. tiki-adminusers.php) to NOT bust the fixed width layout? Tryd to use flex layout for those templates by using the (modified) switch theme  hint from temes.tiki.org but this ended up in endless page refreshs (having user can change theme perm set). 
tiki-adminsusers.php and other table based listings tend to not fit in the middle, tiki-center or role_main divs
(for fixedwidth)
so question is:
polom all
chealer, Xavi really wants to see many of the fixes of sheet and slideshow merged with 7 and with 6 proposals.  Any feedback?
I've already updated the externals in prep for this move.
having left and right menu 100px (sum 200px) is ther a way to limit all middle content to value of fixedwitdh minus (eg200px) left&right column? 
@coaboa: simple fix may be to simply enclose wide tables in an iframe instead
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36055 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_list.php: [MOD] Remove capability to use {} style formatting in favor of sticking to {display name=} style to avoid likely conflict
coaboa, there should be a way, but it would take some experimenting to see what works, I'd say.
My preference is that wide content in the center column push the right column to the right, but I guess the fixed-width rule is to strong to allow that. Is that what you're seeing?
So the result is an overlap?
It's also possible to give #tiki-center the overflow:auto property, which will make a scrollbar on the center column when its contents are wider than the space.
A problem with this is that the scrollbar may not be apparent to the user if the page is tall. Then the scrollbar is out of view, down at the page bottom.
cool, that ( scollbar:auto:hint )I'll try to keep the designers calmed down ;-)
oops
You can click in the center column and use the arrow keys to move left and right, but users may not be aware of that.
true
I haven't noticed any overlapping lately, though. Is this one of the regular tiki themes?
fivealive. no overlapping. but layout is "different". For my designers fixed wdth 1024 means not wider than 1024 px
Oh, does the 1024px include the body background images, etc. (Fivealive's header and footer backgrounds)
?
with most content fixed width works. but some admin stuff ist "expanded". So it not a problem of usability just of beauteouness
Oh, I see. I'll check on that. I didn't notice, apparently.
even setting tiki-center, middle and role_main to width:1024px doesn't limit those tables
not priority one ;-)
Any particular admin page?
tiki-adminusers.php
you'll see: the left menu is far more pushed to the left then the logo is. which is not ime 
you'll see: the left menu is far more pushed to the left then the logo is. which is not intentional I assume
I notice that when the first tab is clicked, the page "spreads" a little, but not enough to cause a scrollbar. I guess some white space is reduced. This is using Firefox on my laptop (1007px wide page inside the browser viewport).
I can measure a 17px movement by the left column menu, to the left, when "Users" tab is clicked.
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36056 10/trunk/lib/parser/ (WikiParser.jison WikiParser.js): [FIX] Debug cleanup
coaboa, what do you think would be improved behavior in such a case?
I use an Imac 2560*1440px and mostly chrome 
chibaguy: switching to non fixed width would do the job
as most of the user listing conten wouldnt fit into 1024px any way
I guess when the width is fixed, especially at narrow size, some movement has to be expected with wide tables, etc., in the center. A possibility would be to impose a max-width on center-column tables, but I don't know if this would work or how well.
y. but switching to none fixed witdt gives a much better "look" under such circustances
*circumstances
as the scrollbar appears at bottom of the browsers window, or am I wrong?
Well, if a scrollbar is needed, yes, at the bottom.
and if scoll bar is needed for tiki-center, middle or role_main the user may not notice it
when using fixed width
so only thing to do:
To me, it's natural for the page to widen when content is wide, so I expect this inn narrow, fixed-width layouts. But I understand how designers might put a higher priority on consistent page width.
those people get payed to change #222333 to #222331 ;-)
So the solutions are to either be full-width, or prevent the center column from widening, by using overflow:auto. I tried a little to make a max-width on the tabcontent table in the center but my rule wasn't strong enough so would need more research.
that what i found: no matter whicht of the mentione center contetn div's I addressed, the tables busted them
They seem very strong. ;-)
thats why I thought of generaly swithcing to a non fixed-width layout for admins 
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36057 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ROLLBACK] r36017 Too many deep behavior changes to what is documented
I hope your admins appreciate the concern that the designers have for them. ;-)
In that case the guy isa top banker just hired by swissre.com insurence for very top level management and the reason why I have to use an imac ;-)
sumarize: if §midlle exceeds $fixedwidths minus (leftmenu+rightmenu) then use flexible layout ;-)
I didn't know bankers paid such attention to matters that aren't directly related to increasing profits. ;-)
former philosopher
Interesting career change.
and a real cool one
Another possibility would be to not use one of the side columns on admin pages, but this might also be objectionable.
Or maybe we need a "display in popup box" button (to display tabs/tabcontent with colorbox). ;-)
y. tryed this but ie9 busted the layout as I only added some if statemnts to do that which worked fine with chrome and ff
I wonder what happened to Tiki's "layout per section" admin page. Before, you could set the columns per blog section, admin section, etc. Is that gone now?
I haven't used it for so long, I didn't notice it was missing, or seems to be.
there is for sure a bug in handling the middle, tiki-center & role_main things 
How do you mean?
as it does not handle the display of the useradmin in a way that automaticaly displays a scrollbar or popub 
as I mentioned before: n usability thing just ugly
The ugliness being that the side columns are pushed outward as the center widens?
y. the thing is that the left upper corner is learned to have the logo inside
but then there is just a white square.  the logo xy=0 is = xy=max
of menu
Could you make a screenshot, please?
mom
chealer: I need a better understanding of the ~np~ syntax in tiki, you have a minute?
or all for that matter
lphuberdeau and I have been working a bit together on it, but he is a little busy today.
RobertPlummer: I just know how it works: no wiki parsing happens between the np tags.
(not very technical) ;-)
chibaguy: thanks...
What about html?
hm, not sure offhand.
isn't html left as html in ~np~ but only on return from plugins?
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36059 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_list.php: [MOD] Adding relations support in plugin list and favorite filter
Well most plugins return ~np~<div>My plugin html</div>~/np~, right?
Just tried your example there. The div tag isn't affected by the np.
<div> creates a div, and wiki syntax is displayed, not parsed.
(I added a little wiki syntax to check.)
very cool!
So in the new parser chibaguy I add a state for np.
It acts like plugin in that it is "stacked" so that if you nest ~np~'s the end of the most child-ed np doesn't release the state.
example: ~np~ __Test__ ~np~ ''test'' ~/np~ __Test2__ ~/np~
If we simply use regex, it'll go to the first of the 2 closing nps.
But if we use the parser, we can maintain the state after the first np and second.
So I guess that leaves html....
When should I handle it? and how?
chibaguy: correct
chibaguy: ;-)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36061 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter.php: [FIX] Allow blank default
coaboa: I received your screenshots but I'm not sure what the problem is. Is the problem shown in these images?
mom
the problem is in 6.4 jqui the fixed width isn't considered anyway
see sceeny
oh, I see.
or in fivealive when using a wide screen the logo's y0x0 is the left colums ymaxxmax
those things are different when using wordpress ;-)
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36062 10/trunk/ (71 files in 12 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Modify {tr} so that _0, _1 etc. be used instead of 0, 1 for variable content in translations... (This is required for Smarty3 upgrade)
tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix some templates syntax to be compatible with both Smarty3 and Smarty2
tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix somme missing php function in smarty secure mode.
tikiwiki: All templates were check with the syntax checker in Smarty2 and Smarty3
coaboa, I'm checking that in fivealive now.
coaboa, I'm not sure what the relationship is between the logo and the left column. As far as I know they shouldn't affect each other.
polom at last :)
hi jonnyb
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36063 10/third_party/smarty3/ (126 files in 9 dirs): [ADD] Add Smarty 3.0.8
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36064 10/trunk/tiki-calendar_setup.php: Make default view for a event in tiki-calendar.php go from 20 chars to 40 chars
coo, here comes smarty 3!
brace brace brace!
i have a minor jQuery update to commit - wonder if i should delay it (also new jquery-ui and jqmobile)
going to go for it anyway - should be possible to work out jQ issues from smarty3 ones
coaboa, I realize I've been looking at tiki 7 here, not at 6.4, but still I'm not sure about the fivealive logo/left column relationship. doesn't seem like it would be a problem in 6.4 either.
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36065 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/ (Plain.php Trackerrender.php): [FIX] Rendering issues
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36066 10/third_party/jquery/ (jquery.js jquery.min.js): [FIX] Upgrade jQuery from 1.6.1 to 1.6.2
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36067 10/third_party/jquery/jquery.mobile/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Upgrade jQueryMobile to 1.0 beta 2
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36068 10/third_party/jquery/ (174 files in 32 dirs): [FIX] Upgrade jQuery-UI to 1.8.15 (and update readme)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36069 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php: [FIX] Update jQuery CDN version paths
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36070 10/trunk/ (tiki-my_tiki.php tiki-print_pages.php tiki-view_articles.php): Adding get_strings comment to avoid unused translation
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36072 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (4 files): Uniformisation of tr and tra + Missing tra
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36073 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Missing tr tags
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36074 10/trunk/ (tiki-browse_categories.php tiki-send_objects.php): Translate the string and not the variable
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36075 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ (Plugin/WikiTemplate.php ValueFormatter/Plain.php): [FIX] Leave the default behavior unchanged for plain
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36076 10/trunk/templates/tiki-received_pages.tpl: [ENH] Deploy norecords
changi : ping
changi : community server is under pressure?  too much traffic?
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36077 10/trunk/templates/tiki-assignuser.tpl: [FIX] fix {tr} tag for new syntax {tr _N=} instead of {tr _N= }
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36078 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] trackers: Handle missing field better (if incorrectly defined in list-type fields)
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36079 10/trunk/lang/fr/ (language.js language.php): [TRA] fix some
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36080 10/trunk/lib/parser/ (5 files): [FIX] Moved dom elements to their own functions in both the php and js version of each other, next will be the update of the php counterpart.
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36081 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] Cleanup + translation
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36082 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] trackers: Handle other missing params better
Hello! I'm having an issue with the "((Page Name))" syntax for creating links. If I link to a page with this syntax, it views the page outside of the structure so the alias is not applied and there are no structure nav elements available. Is there some setting so that it links to a page in a structure (the same structure the link is in) or do I have to use the "[url]" syntax? 
hi jcarter - yes, somewhere on admin/wiki i think
"Open page as structure" should do that (i think)
I checked it out and I had that set. I unapplied and reapplied it, and now im clearing my cache. maybe that'll clear up the issue. Thanks
 New Forum Posts: Best practice for assigning categories - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42012
re-polom y'all
hi ricks99 
hiya jonnyb. hope no riots near you
few closed shops, nothing too nasty thx
good to hear
So I narrowed down the issue. The pages that dont show up in the structure are in multiple structures.
@jcarter: known issue. if a page appears in multiple structures, Tiki doesn't know which oneto use when opening the page.
i logged a bug in 6.x for this
fix, is to allow user to assign a default structure when a page appears in mulitple structures.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36083 10/trunk/tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php: [FIX] plugin edit: $parserlib not set yet?
how do you set a default structure?
that's what needs to be implemented to close the bu
bug
ok, so its unresolved and I'll have to work around it.
you can explicity specify a struture in the link, but you must use [external link] notation -- not ((wiki link))
alright. I have been using the 
[] syntax. Thanks for all the info!
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36084 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [REM] trackers: Clean out obsolete selectValues() calls (function removed in 7.x)
polom
hi ricks99, jonnyb
bolow chealer
hi chealer 
polim
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36085 10/trunk/db/tiki-secdb_7.1_mysql.sql: [KIL] Remove useless
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36086 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/DynamicList.php: [FIX] trackers: Don't try and make options on dynamic lists when empty
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36087 10/trunk/tiki-send_objects.php: Remove space to get it work
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r36089 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/reportslib.php: small fix to backported code in r35878
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36090 10/trunk/ (72 files in 16 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [UPDATE] Update to Smarty 3.0.8
tikiwiki: All should work as expected, but I might have missed some pb.
tikiwiki: So please test carefully and report any pb to me.
tikiwiki: Will try to go to 3.1 very soon...
changi: i'm trying to understtand your category problem, what is the name of this last category?
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r36091 10/branches/7.x/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [bp/r35869] indentation
tikiwiki: [ENH][bp/r35870] add calendar events to daily reports
tikiwiki: [ENH][bp/r35872] add tracker items to daily reports
(argh, i have to roll back, smarty 3 won't work)
nkoth: did you see jonnyb's mail?
no
hi chealer - did it work for you?
feature_referer_highlight=n
ok, I'll try that
nkoth: I'm trying it
jonnyb: it works after running the installer (clearing cache). thanks a lot. I didn't have feature_referer_highlight defined
INSERT INTO `tiki_preferences` (`name`, `value`) VALUES ('feature_referer_highlight', 'n');
no, it seems to default to y
expect sept_7 can fix it
well, i change the default, got through that, now another fatal error
unlucky - i've only had the one so far...
jonnyb: yes. but the API doesn't seem to have changed: http://www.smarty.net/docs/en/api.register.filter.tpl
I am getting: Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'SmartyException' with message 'unknown method 'set_request_overriders'' 
nkoth: zz or what you want
and you get simply & and nothing?
nkoth: no idea about that
nkoth: yes & & and &
i've send you a fix i found on php doc
nkoth: apparently you need to unset the pointer
nkoth: it's working for me
nkoth: seems /lib/smarty_tiki/function.attachments.php uses set_request_overriders
changi, which example?
 number 3
I have no numbers on the page
nkoth: find "Changing element in the loop"
jonnyb: turning attachments off avoided the problem
jonnyb: oh, I see what happened. there were 2 ways to register a filter, both changed a little bit and Stéphane seems to have taken the other one. http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/36090/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php
changi: makes sense
changi: can you commit the unset?
see http://www.smarty.net/docsv2/en/api.load.filter.tpl vs http://www.smarty.net/docs/en/api.load.filter.tpl and http://www.smarty.net/docsv2/en/api.register.outputfilter.tpl vs http://www.smarty.net/docs/en/api.register.filter.tpl
nkoth: yes no prob
changi: it must be depending on php version to see the error (what version you have?)
chealer: sounds likely
I suppose he should have changed to loadFilter() instead
it seems Stéphane didn't look at notices too much
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36092 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Ensure that following writes to will not modify the last array element
nkoth: 5.3.5
chealer: does that fix it?
i think Stéphane thinks about notices quite a lot, but had a lot to do
Who change the edit tracker field interface?
hello! I just got an error "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 523800 bytes) in /data/web/htdocs/tiki-7.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php on line 4823" when submitting a tracker item through a {TRACKER()} plugin on a page. I cannot access the item through the plugin on that page, but i can see the item in a list fine. 
How do I know the option of a field? I do not see the information to say a categorie can be a dropdown, radio...
I checked out that file, adn there isnt even a line 4823
file only has 1390 lines
jcarter: is it a tracker with a lot of fields?
jonnyb: seems to
yeah, it is
in which version?
slyvieg: when I click on the field name a "Edit Field" popup appear with many options for all the different field options...
it has a ton of items, and some are larger than the one i just put in too. tiki 7
nkoth: I am created a new field :-(
nkoth: do you know what is permanent name?
sylvieg: I always create first then edit ...
yes, permanent name is an internal name used to do sync tracker content and also to refer to fields by name, while allowing the user/admin to change the normal name
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36093 10/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php: [FIX] Fix highlight filter initialization (thanx jb and chealer for the report)
actually maybe "internal system name" or something would have been more descriptive
another error : Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'SmartyException' with message 'unknown method 'set_request_overriders'' 
why not using the ID?
changi: i had that, turn off attachments
sylvieg: because across different tikis the id will be different
the site has an id...
I do not understand this feature
a field name can be the name of the site - known in the process of sync and the fieldId
sylvieg: there is a new feature to push items from a tracker in one tiki to a tracker in another tiki,  the perm name is used to reference the fields, otherwise you need to keep tracker of all the field mappings, e.g. field 8 in this tiki is the same as field 10 in the other tiki etc.
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36094 10/trunk/lib/init/smarty.php: [REF] remove presumably forgotten comments from r36090
ah... ok so a invariant name can be tracker_name/field_name .. why introducing a new name
eventually, possible you can refer to fields in things like tracker plugin by the permname instead of ID, so that when you copy the pretty tracker page to another tiki it can sitll work
anybody mind answering a newbie's question?
but why tracker_name/field_name is not consistent?
sylvieg: because the normal tracker name/field name is prone be changed by admins/users , it is not stable enough
guess i shoulda been more creative with the screen name...
on 2 sites I wil call teh tracker with the same name and the field with the samename
hi Guest89813 / newbie, we love 'em, fire away :P
sylvieg: field name  is always changed for visual reasons
and why a permanent name will be mroe stable?
sylvieg: because there is no reaspn to change it
@sylvieg i can submit new ones, so i just deleted it and did a new report.
but between 2 sites the field name - even for visual will be the same
@Guest89813 im noobish myself, but if you have a noobish question i might be able to help
sylvieg: not necessaily.... 
nkoth: is there at least an option to hide this field?
thanks jb.  i have my site set to display the blog on the homepage instead of the wiki.  when i go to my site it gives me the "you are not logged in error".  once i log in it gives me a "blog not found error".  not sure what i've done wrong.   
sylvieg: that is a good suggestion, I can add it to my to-do for LP.
i've set the global permissions to allow anonymous visitors to view the blog.  no dice.  
can you put also be able to set the options of a field at creation - it is a regression IMHO
there, that's better :)
sylvieg: :) I kind of got used to creating then editing, I will ask :)
@tikiquicky i think unless you navigate directly to the login page you will get that not logged in permissions error, but regarding your more important question, how is the blog set to display on the home page? I assume you have blogs enabled in the admin section (have to start at the basics)?
nkoth: I will have prefer sonthing like name and pretty name and use the name accross site
permanent name is showing the internal to a lambda user
but to say a field has a name and a display pretty name for query is end user
@jcarter - no sweat.  starting at the basics is good :)  i have blogs enabled in the Features section of the Admin menu.  I created a test blog and allowed everyone (including anonymous visitors) to see the blog in the Global Permissions.  It still doesn't show up.  
so I am not sure I want an option to hide the field
I only want an option to keep the name has a real reference - and add a pretty display - my 2 cents
@tikiquicky and if you navigate to the blog manually can you access it? or is it that you cant ever access it?
I can never access it.  
sylvieg: I prefer hiding it under some kind of advanced area or something.... 
tikiquicky: there are option like public .. also
@tikiquicky one sec
When I go to <mydomain>/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=0 and I'm logged in it says "blog not found."  When I'm not logged in it says "you're not logged in."  
tikiquicky: 0 is not an id
@sylvieg - ah, ok.... i'll look for that... do you know what menu that's in?
yup
so something is wrong in your url
tikiquicky: it will be in edit this blog
I thought the whole point of Smarty 3 was to make it faster
jonnyb: is your Smarty love increasing?
AH HA!
lphuberdeau: :-) if you have some time have a look at the irc log about permanent name in edit tracker field
brb, might have figured it out
chealer: ;)
since we are on this smarty topic, what do you think of turning off smarty security? I want to use in_array....
i thought in_array was ok
nkoth: +1 but there are so many functions taht seem to be secure..
@tikiquicky try going to tiki-list_blogs.php 
jonnyb: it is not allowed, it acutally "works" when admin if you have php error reporting on, but it white screens for anonynous (dangerous trap)
nasty
the number one reason for the permanent name is that they are more stable, easier to understand when you use them from code or templates for example, and in the tracker sync, they are used to associate the values as the ids don't matter to the sync process, only the names
the names generates automatically by the upgrade are bad, but those generated when you create new fields are good
@tikiquicky you can then open the blog and find the id and modify your orignial url
nkoth: strange it is in php_functions in lib/init/smarty.php
the characters available in the perm name are also limited, which means you don't have to worry about say, a user putting a comma in there
lphuberdeau: but what I say is you need a pretty name and a name
and the name is the id accross site
don't know if it's smarty3 but SHARETHIS in blog is so litteral that the javascript is display 
ok, so the url when i go to my homepage shows /tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=0.  If I change the 0 to a 1 it displays the sample blog I created.  I can't, however, find where I change the blog id #...
because if I am sylvieg I expect to be called sylvieg everywhere but I would like my pretty name to be sylvie
the input form for new items generates the perm name as you type, so it's really not much additional effort, and it makes webservices look really neat
but the inverse is not user friendly
the field name can also be translated, which causes confusion
lphuberdeau: but it shows implementation to enduser .. sometimes they do not understand
I think it shows less implementation than asking them to punch in automatic ids all around
leading to meaningless looking plugin arguments
lphuberdeau: I agree but the real need is id tha can be the same accross site and the stuff you translate, get pretty...
regarding in_array, it may be because I was using it as a modifier...
nkoth: +1
nkoth: can you do that?
should be a function
@tikiquicky http://doc.tiki.org/PluginRedirect you could use that from your nrmal home page
the beauty of open source :-) I am not convince at all permanent name is the best implementation for the need - but it is already there ... please do it an option that is off by default - because I do not htink I will be able to explain this field to 80% of my users
lphuberdeau: also.. it was my first question - when I create a field category - I have no way to say it is a dropdown... only when I edit it
I wouldn't put it off, hiding is OK
Is it a bug or the new way?
yes, that's the way the UI is built
:-(
kind of a process where you decide the fields you need then fiddle the details
perhaps the popup should say more option if you save and edit...
many options, just didn't have time to do everything
@tikiquicky there is a home page setting in wiki, id just search the features for home apge, and you can put a page in there, and possibly a url. Id give that a try
ok, i'm still stuck lol
i tried setting it to go directly to the url of that blog, but it didn't work
for some reason the only blog i've created is blog # 1 and when you change the navigation to display the blog on the homepage instead of the wiki it wants to display blog # 0.  
i know.. I never did big changes because I want no regression - but I never did great progress .... a lot to medidate about
ok, set your home page as a home page, or just to your default home page, and add {REDIRECT(url=url) /} syntax to it and place the blog url in the url= syntax. this is a work around, but it may not lag, i dunno. Also, note that if you put this on a page you cant navigate to that page to edit it so you might want the page to be in a structure so you could edit the page from the admin structures area.
or edit the page and just save the edit page url somewhere
I don't really consider those regressions, it's just a different UI, it does not do everything the same way it used to, but it does a few things better
but I will never have the idea to edit a field to have more option...
it's just that until the field is created, you don't really know what the options should be
When I change "Use Tiki feature as homepage" to "Blog" that's what creates the problem.  It sets the homepage to blog 0, but there is no blog 0.  There's only blog 1.  My skill level isn't good enough to work with plugins or structures yet.  I don't even know what structures are yet LOL
that's just a consequence of splitting the options
... and it is just an ajax call ... not a big deal
brb
or perhaps I missed another change
it's also that I like the insert form to be short and simple
so perhaps just a note ... more option when editing the field
I hate the fact that in the old form, I had to scroll all the way down past all of those options I never cared about
and it will do the job
But if you are adding a field in a operational site - you perhaps want it not to be visible while creating ti
it
so this kind od UI need a publish state
I can see that
@tikiquicky ok. id say create a page somewhere, its cool if its not in a structure, you can just delete it from the orphans page page or list page page, or just change the home page back to whatever,  but disable the use feature as home page option, create a page somewhere, and add this syntax to the page "{REDIRECT(url=url) /}" 
I like that too .. simple screen at first - more complex screen later - and a publish button .. nice in fact
but it is a lot of change
@tikiquicky all you need to do is where it says url=, make it so its url=blog url.
nkoth: it may indeed :-)
The easiest change I could see would be to add a checkbox to hide the field (the live site case), that would essentially make it admin-only or something
sylvieg: i think you'll get use to the new interface, i think it's great now (thx lphuberdeau)
and add an other save button that would be Insert & Edit options, that would fire up the other screen right away
@tikiquicky once you do that, simply set the home page in admin options to the name of the page you created, and when you go home it should redirect you to the blog.
jonnyb: how as a normal user you will gues that the field category can be a dropdown list and not a checkbox
I think I am stupid but I thought it was a bug and did not try the edit field
it probably shouldn't let you save if there are required options missing (would be nice)
I like to see all my options before .. 
i guess you could add an option option ;)
I think lph approach is good as always .. but it needs like a publish state more if you edit..
that probably separates you from most users, which tend to hate forms with terms they don't understand, like really specific options
most field types actually have a very large amount of options
lphuberdeau: tell me how a user can see a checkbox category field and imagine that  editing  the field will give him the choice to have a dropdown
I'll keep in mind the mandatory options, maybe they can be ajax-pulled
but I really don't think I want all options in the insert form... even I get scared
gotta head out, good luck!
perhaps it is only to show in a popup the doc.tiki page about the option
to have a way to show the options ..
perhaps a line - more options will be available when editing the field is enough
is edit tracker item brken for anybody else (trunk)?  could have sworn this worked before
seems ok to me (on tiki-view_tracker_item.php)
pretty sure it worked for me very recently
yesterday was ok
yes, on tiki-view_tracker_item.php
seems ok to me - i'll svn up
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36095 10/trunk/lib/init/smarty.php: [EHN] Some enhancement for Smarty initialization, now silence smarty error if $prefs.smarty_notice_reporting is not set
I lost all my trackers after a svn up
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36096 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [FIX] Notices both in PHP and Smarty
strange, the line that prevent me from saving my tracker item has been there for ages, but only now it is a problem, i wonder if is the smarty upgrade that triggered it
I'm going to commit anyway, you guys can double check
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36097 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [FIX] Allow saving of tracker items again (How in the world did this work before? related to Smarty 3 upgrade?
no to beat a dead horse, but i've tried doing what jcarter suggested and i can't get it to work.  anybody know why the homepage gets set to blog=0 when I change it to display the blog under the navigation settings, but the url of the only blog on my site is blog=1?
tikiquicky: no, sorry - sounds like a bug - try setting the home url to blog1
"Homepage URL"
in admin/general
How weird is this:  I go to General>Homepage, click the checkbox for "Use URL Index", put the entire URL ending with blogid=1 in the box, save my changes, then when I go to my homepage it still tries to direct me to the URL ending blog=0.  
decidedly (weird)
I wonder if there's something in the template files I could edit to fix this...
would be better to find out why first - are you using sefurl (and .htaccess)?
I'm sorry JB, I don't even know what either of those things are.  
what do you have set as "Use Tiki feature as homepage"
Blog:Set blogs homepage first
try custom