#tikiwiki 2011-08-29,Mon

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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36560 10/trunk/templates/prefs/text.tpl: cosmtic improvement to text pref tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36561 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: better demo of pref template	[00:12]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36562 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: more pref data	[00:50]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36563 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): an example of using wiki syntax in pref names to make things cleaner and removing hard-coded HTML tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36564 10/trunk/templates/prefs/text.tpl: an example of using wiki syntax in prefs to make things cleaner and removing hard-coded HTML (missing commit)	[00:56]
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marclaporte	polom	[01:29]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36565 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_maps.tpl: improve map admin panel	[02:12]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36566 10/trunk/lib/prefs/connect.php: another pref link	[02:27]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36567 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): start changing admin panels from cms to articles (long-standing annoyance)	[02:37]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36568 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): CMS->Articles in admin panels	[02:44]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36569 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-list_articles.tpl tiki-view_articles.tpl): cms->articles tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36570 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: improve pref for FAQs	[03:00]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36572 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): improving admin UI for submissions	[03:43]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36573 10/trunk/templates/ (3 files in 2 dirs): CMS->articles	[03:51]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36574 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: CMS->articles for permissions (not changing the name of the permissions but just the grouping	[03:58]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36575 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: only show permissions if feature is activated tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36576 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: empty array	[04:13]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36577 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: move permissions to more relevant section	[04:45]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36578 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: clean permissions definitions	[04:53]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36579 10/trunk/lib/prefs/fgal.php: fgal_prevent_negative_score seems to be a boolean, not a text field	[05:04]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36580 10/trunk/ (lib/prefs/fgal.php templates/admin/include_fgal.tpl): cleaning up fgal admin panel by using new goodies	[05:09]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36581 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: better feature check	[05:15]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36582 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: re-order permissons for file gallery so most-often used perms are at the top tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36583 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: re-order permissons for comments so most-often used perms are at the top	[05:22]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36584 10/trunk/ (10 files in 3 dirs): removing cryptic __messu__ and replacing by descriptive __message__ and other improvements to admin panels for messages	[05:44]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36585 10/trunk/ (lib/mods/modslib.php tiki-mods.php): upgrading mods to v8	[06:10]
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marclaporte	that's enough for today!	[06:46]
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changi	marclaporte: nice shoot marclaporte: you missed one :) tiki-cms_ranking.php	[06:51]
marclaporte	hehe marclaporte will now go and watch "Product, Framework, or Platform? What They Mean, And Why You Should Care" http://tutr.tv/t4970	[06:55]
changi	marclaporte: what time is it in your place ?	[07:01]
marclaporte	3am	[07:03]
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SJ-Jay	polom y'all	[07:09]
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fabricius	Hi SJ SJ-Jay:	[07:32]
SJ-Jay	Hey :D	[07:32]
fabricius	is Merb nearby?	[07:32]
SJ-Jay	yup sitting right next to me.. want him to go online?	[07:33]
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fabricius	would be very cool - would like to chat about the perspective binder :-D Hi Merbster	[07:33]
Merbster	fabricius, you summoned me? :P	[07:33]
SJ-Jay	aah :) i'll tell him to go online.. but don't take to much of his time! we are very busy atm :)	[07:34]
fabricius	sure!	[07:34]
SJ-Jay	we have a deadline in 2 weeks	[07:34]
fabricius	looool	[07:34]
SJ-Jay	100 employees are expecting a fully functional system :D	[07:34]
fabricius	for the perspective binder? ah	[07:34]
SJ-Jay	noooo	[07:34]
fabricius	lol hehe	[07:34]
SJ-Jay	for our intranet/project management system	[07:34]
fabricius	for your intranet at all? ah yes	[07:34]
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SJ-Jay	wtf	[07:35]
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fabricius	so SJ-Jay and Merbster: I did do some supplements to the file in respect to documentation and make it more for general use (not to the code itself) even as the code is not at all integrated in Tiki yet, some people would be keen on trying it, so I would like to commit it in trunk	[07:36]
Merbster	fabricius, I read your email. I haven't reviewed what you done yet (I took the weekend off ;)) I will look at it this evening when I get home and give you some feedback (if I feel any is needed) fabricius, you can commit it to trunk if you like, I don't have my own commit access. (yet?) Merbster pokes marclaporte	[07:37]
fabricius	Merbster: yet ... will heve soon - I am pretty sure, that you will get your initiation soon	[07:38]
Merbster	Don'	[07:39]
fabricius	Merbster: did you already read the 3 rules on dev.t.o?	[07:39]
Merbster	't sweat it ;) yes I did, but I forgot them again (it's months ago)	[07:39]
fabricius	hehe in the code I literally changed the base Id from 3 to 1 and renamed "project page indicator" to "Areas"	[07:39]
Merbster	I think it's a good idea. because our usecase is very specific, this functionality can be used in so many ways.	[07:40]
fabricius	then I did write a comment at the end of the file, that describes the usage and how to make the settings (longer than the code itself)	[07:41]
Merbster	I think you are doing a very nice job fabricius	[07:41]
fabricius	thank you I think you are doing a very good job	[07:41]
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chibaguy	polom	[07:41]
SJ-Jay	hey chiba :)	[07:42]
fabricius	if you are confident, people could try your code even tonight	[07:42]
Merbster	fabricius, just commit it, you don't need to ask my permission :)	[07:42]
fabricius	bolow chibaguy	[07:42]
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fabricius	Merbster: thx - it is just becaus you wrote it and not me (what I pointed out here and there) and I kind of hitchhike it for my feature proposal ;-) i	[07:43]
marclaporte	http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2011-08-25,Thu&sel=368#l364	[07:44]
fabricius	this file demonstrates well, what I wanted to get in since long ... but you know	[07:44]
Merbster	marclaporte, brilliant ^^ I will probably try and commit the few translations I made tonight when I get home.	[07:45]
fabricius	Merbster: I also want to merge your page on dev.t.o (/lookup....) with the Areas page and then redirect your pagetitle to the Areas feature page - would you be confident with that aswell?	[07:46]
Merbster	fabricius, it's a wiki, just do it :)	[07:46]
fabricius	kk	[07:46]
Merbster	I don't have ownership of the code. Tiki does. :)	[07:46]
fabricius	then tiki-perspective_binder.php officially is the basis for "Areas" ;-) I am not Tiki aswell - we are so I just ask and deside then, when I know the opinions of my collegues and friends in the community I am loosing nothing, if I discuss or aks before ask	[07:46]
Merbster	ofcourse not :P	[07:51]
fabricius	So I have to do some work now, as I have a timeline for a project aswell, c ya later cheers all and thx Merb	[07:53]
SJ-Jay	cya fabricius :)	[07:59]
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chibaguy	hi SJ-Jay and everybody	[08:02]
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chibaguy	I'm looking for the Golden Key to wiki page paragraph spacing. Seems like I wrestle with this with every Tiki release. (Could be a case of not learning from experience, but I think maybe the rules are also changing as we go along.)	[08:09]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36586 10/trunk/lib/freetag/freetaglib.php: Notice	[08:10]
chibaguy	Specifically, I have wiki paragraphs turned on and am using html in pages, and using the regular wiki editor. If I follow one line by another with no white space in between, they are rendered as in the same paragraph. If I put a blank line between them, I get what appears to be about three blank lines in the wiki page. I didn't look at the source yet, but I suspect it's gnarly. earlier in branch 7, that empty white space contained <p>%nbsp;</p>	[08:11]
	Yeah, still the case in the current svn branch 7. I need to do some methodical tests and document what I find, in case it could be helpful. I'd like to get <p>My paragraph of text.</p> for text without line returns. Doesn't seem like a radical expectation. (rather than: My paragraph of text.<p> </p>My next paragraph of text.) Makes it a little hard to assign styles to paragraphs, to say the least.	[08:17]
Bernard1	hi all	[08:20]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03muscote * r36587 10/trunk/tiki-perspective_binder.php: tikiwiki: Feature preview: tikiwiki: tiki-perspective_binder.php is a code written by Merbster, to setup logical tikiwiki: areas in Tiki, where perspectives and categories are bound together in a way tikiwiki: that categorized content will always be shown in the related perspective. tikiwiki: -> See desription of use and configuration at the end of the file. tikiwiki: We need help for native integration in Tiki, as in this early stage some configuration have to be done in the php-file and the file is yet based on direct database calls.	[08:22]
chibaguy	Hi Bernard1	[08:24]
Bernard1	konishuwa	[08:25]
chibaguy	:-)	[08:29]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03muscote * r36588 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php: tikiwiki: A comment is added in line 145 to include the tiki-perspective_binder.php tikiwiki: tiki-perspective_binder.php is written by Merbster and the basis of the feature "Areas" I proposed recently. tikiwiki: Follow the instructions in tiki-perspective_binder.php and then uncomment the line 145 to activate the "Areas" feature. tikiwiki: Cheers, Torsten	[08:33]
chibaguy	Hmm, I find that sometimes the wiki paragraph formatting is correct, and sometimes it isn't.	[08:35]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36589 10/trunk/lib/freetag/freetaglib.php: [ENH] Use the gateway	[08:37]
Merbster	chibaguy, I find it that the editor in general is funky. chibaguy, that is probably the area where our test users has complained the most.	[08:43]
chibaguy	Oh, really?	[08:46]
SJ-Jay	something changed in v.7.1.. all my html fucked up.. had to wrap it with html tags	[08:46]
chibaguy	Seems like it was more predictable before; I think it's gotten more complex underneath. It does need to be sorted out, so it'd be good to document the weird behavior when we run across it.	[08:47]
SJ-Jay	chibaguy, you know who developed the search box?	[08:48]
chibaguy	I tend to rant on irc instead of file bug reports, so not too constructive. ;-) Ah, maybe lph. lp huberdeau	[08:48]
fabricius	SJ-Jay: I knew that more people than me would be victim of this HTML fault!! SJ-Jay: we made a temporary fix, until the HTML will be redone completely SJ-Jay: Jonny Bradley did write a fix and added preferences for Articles and Calendars - Wiki works so far and Blog/Forum I still have to check SJ-Jay: in 7.x you can preset, that article-text and calendar items are forced to parse HTML - but you cannot use HTML in one item and WikiSyntax in the other one SJ-Jay: but if you need WYSIWIG, it works I have a problem with bullet points in menus (7.x branches) - might somebody please have a look here: http://trucs.fabricius.me/bullet-in-menu.png and give me a hint, how to deactivate those bullet points, please? here it is menu 43 - in a module "menu", assigned to the Top Bar area	[08:51]
chibaguy	fabricius: when you assigned the menu when making the module did you give it the "css=y" or whatever the syntax is? the stylesheet css/cssmenus.css should remove the bullet points. if the menu is recognized as a css (suckerfish) menu. About wiki editing, it bothers me that "enable HTML" must be turned on globally and for each page specifically. Why per-page when it's on globally?	[09:01]
SJ-Jay	on the phone	[09:03]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r36590 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [EHN] FullCalendar some refinements	[09:19]
SJ-Jay	does anyone know if the searchbox will be compatible with lucene search soon?	[09:21]
chibaguy	SJ-Jay: You should check with lphuberdeau or sylvieg probably.	[09:29]
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SJ-Jay	chibaguy, i'll do that.. btw do you know were to configure php to execute scripts in subdirectories?	[09:55]
chibaguy	sorry, SJ-Jay, I don't know much about that.	[09:59]
SJ-Jay	ok.. well anyone else knows how we can execute a php file from a specific subdirectory? :)	[10:00]
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kreditkid	Made a change to the a module and now my entire site stopped displaying. Not sure what to do. Please help :( to a module, rather	[10:14]
fabricius	chibaguy: sry for the delayed answer - a guest came and I forgot IRC ;-) chibaguy: I realised, that in 7.x css menu is default and so I forced css=n now wich made the bullet point disappearing chibaguy: wouldn't it be possible to use css=y and to "deactivate" the bullet point somehow? the bullet point shows up in the Top Bar of jqui.cs and fivealive.css, where I haven't had them in previous versions like 6.x kreditkid: what change did you make to what kind of module in what context? could you describe the before/after situation and as exact as possible, what you did do before the site disappeared?	[10:18]
kreditkid	I had created a custom module with code {banner zone=top}. I wanted it to center the banner zone on the top of the page. So, I edited it and applied html code around the {banner zone=top} to try to center it and checked the box for parse wiki syntax in html code. After I saved it everything went white and now I can't get a single page to load. kreditkid is panicking	[10:23]
Merbster	kreditkid, are you familiar with SQL?	[10:24]
fabricius	kreditkid: please don't panic! do you have a towel?	[10:24]
kreditkid	not at all to be honest, but i figured there was a entry there I could delete that would fix it, but I don't know how. a towel? lol	[10:24]
fabricius	kreditkid: do you have access to the server control center respectively to the PHPmyAdmin?	[10:25]
Merbster	kreditkid, the towel is a reference to "Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" :P	[10:25]
fabricius	we could guide you through	[10:25]
kreditkid	yeah, i can log in and get into phpmyadmin kreditkid has never seen Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"	[10:25]
fabricius	like the Id of our main extensive application menu	[10:25]
kreditkid	yeah, my cpanel	[10:26]
fabricius	you should read the books!	[10:26]
kreditkid	i'm logged into phpmyadmin now	[10:26]
Merbster	kreditkid, I just sent you a query that will list all your modules	[10:27]
fabricius	if you login to PHPmyAdmin, you can list the tables with the modules - there you can identify the module, that you modified and delete the code	[10:27]
Merbster	find your custom module on that list	[10:27]
fabricius	a cool - I leave it with Merbster	[10:27]
Merbster	kreditkid, you need to change "sj-wiki" to your own database name the database name I cannot help you with. That will depend on your host's settings	[10:28]
kreditkid	Merbster, I'm not sure how the query you sent me works.	[10:29]
fabricius	Merbster: we would have to guide him step by step	[10:30]
kreditkid	ok, i just opened tiki_modules and I see the module listed that i edited that is now causing the problem	[10:30]
fabricius	either where to paste the query or how to do it manually cool	[10:30]
kreditkid	if i delete this module from this menu will that undo what i did right before the problem started (ie, delete the module i edited)?	[10:31]
fabricius	Calendar: I do not find a configuration to get a "print button" for calendar view or calendar items - do we have such a print button for calendars (like on wiki pages or articles) or is printing not available for calendar? kreditkid: if you find an editable field with the custom code, you could just delete the custom code - should be fine without deleting the whole module, if I am right - try that maybe first	[10:34]
Merbster	kreditkid, fabricius is right about that I had a collegue I had to support :P I don't know the interface of phpMyAdmin.	[10:36]
fabricius	ah, I don't know queries without interface for phpMyAdmin :-P	[10:37]
Merbster	kreditkid, you need to find out how you can execute an SQL query via. phpmyadmin kreditkid, when you find out, edit he code I sent you so that sj-wiki is your db name. Paste in your code in phpmyadmin thingie and it should (hopefully) list all your stuff	[10:38]
fabricius	Merbster: in phpMyAdmin (loged in to the GUI) you can just click on the leftside list of tables and then on the items - you have icons and such wich are more or less self explaining and you have a menu item, where you can access a field, where you can paste a SQL query aswell I can make a screenshot for kreditkid	[10:40]
kreditkid	i just ran the SQL query through phpmyadmin and it came back with "#1142 - SELECT command denied to user 'myusername@localhost' for table 'tiki_modules' i appreciate your all's help :) i see the module i edited, but when i open it up to edit it i don't see any strings of code i could remove... ok, there's a button in phpmyadmin that i could click that would run the query you sent me Merbster I've ran that query now and I can see all of my assigned modules i see the one that's causing the problem, but when i click "edit" to edit it there isn't any string of code i could delete. should i just delete the module altogether? i don't mind rebuilding one module.	[10:43]
SJ-Jay	aaah.. desk finally clean! Merbster just spilled an entire glass of water :D	[10:50]
Merbster	kreditkid, I think that was what I did last time I had your problem	[10:50]
kreditkid	just deleted the module?	[10:51]
Merbster	Yes.	[10:51]
kreditkid	i can rebuild it in under a minute. i just don't know what i'm doing and i'm scared to delete anything lol	[10:51]
Merbster	as long as the ROW you are deleting is the one that has name = yourmodulename	[10:51]
kreditkid	it is just deleted it and, sweet Jesus, my site is loading again. just gotta rebuild the stupid module. thank you both :)	[10:51]
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kreditkid	well, one last question: do either of you know the tiki syntax code for centering {banner zone=top}?	[10:54]
Merbster	kreditkid, be careful with custom modules. test it before saving it. kreditkid, you would need to look into the templates of tiki	[10:54]
Bernard1	::{banner zone=top}:: :)	[10:54]
Merbster	or maybe do as Bernard1 says	[10:54]
kreditkid	this is the first time i had a problem like this, but you're right. custom modules can get you in trouble.	[10:54]
Bernard1	last time i used it, it works and it is tiki syntax	[10:54]
kreditkid	Bernard: I tried that and it prints the :: on the page next to the banner ad....	[10:54]
Bernard1	arf...	[10:55]
kreditkid	LOL	[10:55]
Bernard1	{HTML()}<center>{HTML}{banner zone=top}{HTML()}</center>{HTML} else use div and style styles but "::{banner zone=top}::" is tiki syntax and should work (if you are copying this at the right place) where do you input that ?	[10:55]
kreditkid	Bernard: lemme get back to that screen real quick	[11:01]
Bernard1	np	[11:01]
kreditkid	When creating a new custom module, I was putting {banner zone=top} in the Data box at the bottom of the page then hitting 'Create' to creat the module. When I went in and added the html code is when i had th problem.	[11:03]
Bernard1	… you are on tw7 ?	[11:03]
kreditkid	yeah	[11:03]
Bernard1	Mmmm… some stuff really don't work there… centering should work :( (i mean ::) ::	[11:04]
kreditkid	Ok, so I just tested it by rebuilding the module with {HTML()}<center>{HTML}{banner zone=top}{HTML()}</center>{HTML}. After I assigned it to Page Top the site went white again. There's some sort of glitch with HTML and tiki syntax. I'm back in phpmyadmin deleting the module now. oh shit now i'm in phpmyadmin and the module isn't listed....	[11:06]
Bernard1	it need some refresh sometimes don't panic (it could be only worst) = and i'm the one saying that ! :D :D :D	[11:08]
kreditkid	not sure what happened, but my site is back up. the module didn't save somehow, thank god.... doesn't look like there's a safe way to center with HTML... unfortunately, the wiki syntax prings on the page.	[11:08]
Bernard1	try to write in the module "::hello:: to check what is going on ::hello::	[11:09]
kreditkid	LOL when you enter ::hello:: it prints ::hello:: on the screen. but it's not centered. it's not parsing the wiki syntax.	[11:10]
Bernard1	aoutch…	[11:11]
fabricius	why not using {literal} ... {/literal} ?	[11:11]
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kreditkid	what is {literal}?	[11:13]
Bernard1	kreditkid: did you check the checkbox "Must be wiki parsed" ? ::hello:: is working fine here	[11:13]
fabricius	some smarty similar thing I think ... just an idea ... gimme some minute, I am trying	[11:14]
Bernard1	the checkbox is under the title text field of the module	[11:14]
fabricius	or this way Bernard1 says :-D	[11:14]
Bernard1	yes it smell like a BIG :)	[11:14]
kreditkid	i see the checkbox you're talking about. i'm experimenting with ::hello:: to see if i can get it to work. ok, now ::hello:: works would ::{banner zone=top}:: theoretically work?	[11:14]
Bernard1	yes it SHOULD !	[11:15]
fabricius	IF tick box is checked	[11:16]
Bernard1	;)	[11:16]
kreditkid	SWEET!	[11:17]
Bernard1	Ta DA ? cool	[11:17]
kreditkid	at first it gave me an error saying the plugin couldn't be blah blah blah	[11:18]
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kreditkid	but then i went in and enabled the plugin and now my banner ads are centered at the page top :) thank you so much for the help! www.explorecreditrepair.com	[11:18]
Merbster	what is "credit repair" ?	[11:20]
fabricius	your site is getting better and better kreditkid	[11:20]
Bernard1	+1	[11:21]
kreditkid	Merb - it's when you remove negative items and add positive items to your credit file in order to raise your credit score. Fab - thank you :) I just submitted it to the search engines tonight. Do you think I'm going too heavy on the ads?	[11:21]
fabricius	not so much - I do not really like ads at all - but it seems ok	[11:24]
chibaguy	sorry, I was away. Looks like I missed the fun.	[11:24]
fabricius	in thae haeder there is a vertical "border" between the left title and the right grafic - that should be "smoother" yes chibaguy - Bernard1 sorted it	[11:25]
Bernard1	+1 on smooth fading the white space at the bottom of the page is well proportioned… but empty :)	[11:25]
fabricius	and the "leafs" are cut off at the top - should be adjusted aswell haha - well proportioned, but empty white space ... tht sounds cool	[11:27]
Bernard1	:) ok ok , :D it should be filled with copyright, small link to avoid so much emptied space.	[11:28]
kreditkid	I'm using the eatlon theme. Is there a repository to get more tiki themes? I have my Privacy Policy link down there ;) LOL guess I need a copyright one....	[11:29]
Bernard1	yes and move them down	[11:30]
kreditkid	where the privacy policy link is is as low as it goes :(	[11:30]
chibaguy	kreditkid, you can go to http://themes.tiki.org for a few more themes.	[11:31]
kreditkid	cool, thanks :)	[11:32]
Bernard1	eatlon.css (line 89), change min-height: 163px;… it will reset your bottom to something more normal (visually) removing it look good to me :)	[11:32]
fabricius	Bernard1: I still have the problem with the bullet point - do not find how to get it out I think it is, because of some changes in Tiki7 or I am just dump today	[11:33]
lphuberdeau	doc.t.o looks strange this morning oh, back to normal, just a glitch all the modules were gone ;)	[11:34]
Bernard1	fabricius: ? lost you. what are you talking about ? hi lph	[11:34]
lphuberdeau	good morning	[11:34]
kreditkid	Bernard: where would i find eatlon.css within tiki to edit it?	[11:35]
Merbster	kreditkid, credit in relation to what? - money, reputation?	[11:35]
ricks99	polom y'all	[11:35]
Bernard1	"styles/eatlon.css"	[11:36]
kreditkid	Merb - your credit scores with the 3 major credit bureaus	[11:36]
Bernard1	hi Rick !	[11:36]
Merbster	kreditkid, I don't get it, but maybe it's because I'm from Denmark	[11:36]
fabricius	lphuberdeau: I do not see anything strange except the search boxin the german site version, wich we should fix ... looks aquard since a while, because it is "over" the Top Bar menu items (german uses longer words here	[11:37]
kreditkid	Merb - yeah, i'm sure you guys on a whole different system	[11:37]
fabricius	bolow ricks99	[11:37]
kreditkid	Bernard: I looked under Edit Templates and it gives me a list of files, but there is no styles/eatlon.css. all the files in that list end with .tpl.	[11:37]
ricks99	hiya fabricius & Bernard1	[11:37]
lphuberdeau	ricks99, was irene much trouble in your area?	[11:37]
Bernard1	not under templates. just where you tiki is "styles/eatlon.css"	[11:37]
chibaguy	ricks99: did you weather the storm ok?	[11:38]
ricks99	@lph: lots of rain, some limbs down in the yard, but that's it	[11:38]
kreditkid	Bernard: Gotcha. I need to go in through FTP to get that then.	[11:38]
Bernard1	Ah i knew an Irene once… but was brit :)	[11:38]
ricks99	@kreditkid: you can use the custom css tab in admin lok & feel to override styles. no need for FTP	[11:39]
fabricius	I enjoy that I need not to use FTP-software with my Ubuntu and can edit direct on the server	[11:39]
lphuberdeau	good to hear, we had some rain too yesterday and power outages, but it was not much of a storm here	[11:39]
ricks99	ricks99 still can't believe that canada was under a tropical strom warning :)	[11:39]
lphuberdeau	hey! it happened before!	[11:40]
Bernard1	lol	[11:40]
fabricius	lphuberdeau: how much a returnflight between Montréal and europe would cost about?	[11:40]
lphuberdeau	plus, we've been having sub-tropical end of afternoon rain all summer long	[11:40]
fabricius	I am considering to save some money and come to the TikiFestDesign	[11:40]
lphuberdeau	fabricus, depends on the season, but november is usually quite cheap... about 600-700 EUR I would say	[11:41]
fabricius	huh, I was afraid about that	[11:41]
Bernard1	same here, i checked flight cost about this one yesterday. :)	[11:41]
lphuberdeau	you should check out on flight booker sites	[11:41]
fabricius	is november already fix, or maybe later (dec/jan) I'll do anyway	[11:41]
lphuberdeau	I think the target is end of november	[11:42]
fabricius	kk	[11:42]
Bernard1	orbitz.com give me the best price ($960)	[11:42]
lphuberdeau	december gets more expensive	[11:42]
fabricius	okl	[11:42]
lphuberdeau	that's $675, I had a decent guess ;)	[11:42]
fabricius	would there be a chance, that I get a place to sleep in one of your houses (nearly cannot afford the flight and definitely could not pay a hotel)	[11:43]
lphuberdeau	yeah, we'll have room, no worries	[11:43]
fabricius	flight and some food for some days, I may perhabs could get aside	[11:44]
lphuberdeau	I should be able to host 1-2, marc 3-4, and there are tons of other people around	[11:44]
Bernard1	… and there are parties at night or we just work tied up to a chair and a computer ? :)	[11:44]
fabricius	I just rebootet here in my hometown and start from scratch (no money, renovate house, new job,...)	[11:45]
lphuberdeau	you can tie yourself up if that's your thing, but most of us will enjoy the evening	[11:45]
Bernard1	I was for one night in montreal and i felt so sorry about that ! People seams so nice	[11:46]
fabricius	You felt sorry about having been in Montréal? :-D	[11:46]
Bernard1	gna gna ! :D	[11:47]
fabricius	So I'd need a hand pls, to get rid of the bullet points in my css menu: http://trucs.fabricius.me/bullet-in-menu.png	[11:48]
Bernard1	css shoud do it, url ?	[11:49]
lphuberdeau	check out the list-style property you'll also need to fix up the margin and padding	[11:49]
Bernard1	list-style:	[11:49]
fabricius	it is css=y	[11:49]
lphuberdeau	lphuberdeau does not know how to make tiki look pretty	[11:50]
fabricius	if s.b. wants to check with a webdev tool fabricius goes the hard way to learn making Tiki prettier because he cannot code	[11:50]
ricks99	@fabricius: you might find this primer helpful: http://twessentials.keycontent.org/Which+CSS+Style+to+Edit <shamless plug>	[11:50]
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Bernard1	fabricius: add in your stylesheet : .box-data ul { list-style-type: none; }	[11:51]
chibaguy	fabricius: the css/cssmenus.css stylesheet isn't being applied to that menu with the bullet point. Sorry, I didn't read all the conversation.	[11:52]
Bernard1	or better	[11:53]
kreditkid	what is the wiki syntax for a line break?	[11:53]
Bernard1	ul .cssmenu_horizontal { list-style-type: none; } kreditkid: "…" kreditkid: sry "…page…"	[11:53]
chibaguy	#topbar_modules .cssmenu_horizontal {list-style: none} should remove the bullet point.	[11:55]
kreditkid	www.explorecreditrepair.com i lowered the privacy policy link at the bottom of the page	[11:55]
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chibaguy	fabricius: ^^	[11:55]
Bernard1	lol yes now you have a big empty space… above :D (joking that's ok)	[11:56]
kreditkid	LOL kreditkid dances in a circle	[11:56]
fabricius	thanks guys, thanks so Bernard and chibaguy .box-data.... did work \| ul .cssmenu.... did not work \| .cssmenu_horizontal.... did work aswell as \| #topbar_modules .cssmenu_horizontal.....	[11:57]
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ihtus	hello everyone	[12:02]
fabricius	Bernard1 and kreditkid: I found it better before hi ihtus	[12:02]
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Bernard1	fabricius: the problem with ".box-data" is that it will work for any "box-data" (i don;t recommend using this) .cssmenu_horizontal is best	[12:03]
kreditkid	fabricius: you liked it better when the privacy policy link was closer to the page content? I also added a banner at the bottom. Thoughts on that?	[12:03]
fabricius	ah btw @all: I commited the tiki-perspective_binder.php to trunk as base for the "Areas" feature	[12:03]
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fabricius	chibaguy: discussion can start now	[12:04]
Bernard1	kreditkid: waaaa… you'll have to decide for yourself but for my eyes, there is too much wasted white space there.	[12:04]
kreditkid	Gotcha... I'll chop it down.	[12:04]
fabricius	kreditkid: same as Bernard1 says - I di find it "rounder" before, better fitting together - just a bit too much empty space	[12:05]
kreditkid	ok, i scaled it back from 9 line breaks before and after the privacy policy link to 3	[12:06]
fabricius	So I am merging Merbsters and my page on dev.t.o and adjust the desription for "Areas" - brb	[12:08]
kreditkid	later guys, thanks for all your help this morning!	[12:12]
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chibaguy	fabricius: sorry, I need to eat now	[12:14]
fabricius	chibaguy: that's a pity ... chibaguy: enjoy your meal anyway	[12:21]
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ihtus	is md5 salted in tiki?	[14:45]
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fabricius	hi Merbster - I did rewrite the merged page - did you already subscribe the dev-list? http://dev.tiki.org/Areas	[15:06]
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Merbster	fabricius\|busy, looks good I just read it.	[15:14]
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shana_	I have tiki 7.1 new install. I am missing the body content input box for all new wiki blog articles. It is there for existing wiki's and articles, not for new ones... any ideas why? what do i not have turn on etc? !help I have tiki 7.1 new install. I am missing the body content input box for all new wiki blog articles. It is there for existing wiki's and articles, not for new ones... any ideas why? what do i not have turn on etc?	[15:58]
Tiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tiki.org/TikiBot .	[15:59]
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Merbster	shana_, that sounds pretty weird. have you tried changing theme?	[16:02]
shana_	no i will try that. thanks.	[16:03]
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lphuberdeau	Merbster: to answer your question earlier, tikifests vary a lot in size, anywhere from 5 to 30, but usually 10-15	[16:05]
shana_	Merbster_, new theme, still the same. Does it have something to do with a profile feature i don't have turned on maybe?	[16:06]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, ok. Sounds cozy. shana_, I doubt it. I know there's some JS involved for rezising the textbox. shana_, and the fact that the textbox /text area is there on allready created pages makes me think it's not a setting.	[16:06]
shana_	okay.	[16:07]
Merbster	I might be wrong though shana_, is this a totally squeeky clean install?	[16:07]
shana_	Merbster, what does squeeky clean mean lol? I have messed with the theme .css but it was working fine on a different install. The only thing i may have done to mess it up is i didn't use the preset profiles first. I installed, set all my preferences one by one. When i wen to create a new wiki it said I needed to "apply the wysiwyg 6.0" (with no input box) I went to check that out but couldn't find it, so i applied a "featured pr edit- the wysiwyg notification went away	[16:12]
Merbster	shana_, sounds like your editor choice is a bit screwed up try to deactive the settings and re-apply them if not try to re-install the tiki - remember to clear the database	[16:13]
shana_	okay. got it. thanks!	[16:13]
Merbster	shana_, squeeky clean means "extremely clean"	[16:13]
shana_	like Mr Clean clean?	[16:14]
Merbster	shana_, imagine the sounds it says when a cartoon character is polishing something to a shine - that's why "squeeky clean" :P	[16:14]
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shana_	;) thanks for you help.	[16:15]
Merbster	shana_, did it work?	[16:15]
shana_	Merbster, I'll let you know... working on it now.	[16:15]
Merbster	shana_, ok. a tip; don't thank me before it works ;)	[16:16]
shana_	ha! well thanks for the suggestion then.	[16:16]
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fabricius\|busy	shana_: just read about your problem and that it seems to be WYSIWYG related	[16:25]
ihtus	doesn anybodyd know what hash technique tiki is using? I would like to make a custom form for adding users and need to know how to store the hashed password	[16:25]
fabricius\|busy	shana_: I am not a coder, but I have the WYSIWYG issues somehow on my focus shana_: could you please in a few words repeat and clarify your problem? shana_: Tikis change of behaviour happened, when you apllied WYSIWYG - right? shana_: Please tell me your Tiki version	[16:26]
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sylvieg	ihtus: there are different method - you can choose from - the setiing is in admin->login	[16:29]
shana_	fabricius\|busy, that's what i was thinking. I haven't reset everything just yet. still, looking around control panel for the answer. I had not tried it until that point so, i can't answer that. I applies all my preferences, then went to add a new wiki page. Then got the error and notification. "Please apply the WYSIWYG_6.0" I have not found that profile and applied it. No change. Still no "body content" input box on all n fabricius\|busy, tiki 7.1	[16:29]
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shana_	fabricius\|busy, Let me start over.... I applied all my preferences, then went to add a new wiki page. Then got the error and notification. "Please apply the WYSIWYG_6.0" I HAVE found that profile and applied it. No change. Still no "body content" input box on all new wiki and articles pages.	[16:32]
sylvieg	shana_: perhaps try with the tiki editor to see if it is a problem related to wysiwyg	[16:32]
fabricius	shana_: The WYSIWYG editor (wich is based on an external procet called CKE editor) is counted as new feature and has still some problems	[16:33]
ihtus	@sylvieg: thank you!	[16:34]
fabricius	shana_: this editor does not parse the Tiki Syntax, but instead HTML and it is a huge task to get both editors compatible to work on the same page	[16:35]
sylvieg	you can code your password in any of these methods - tiki will understand	[16:35]
shana_	fabricius, I have started going through my control panel to turn WYSIWYG off. I'm new at tiki so, It takes me a bit.	[16:35]
fabricius	shana_: especially in Tiki 7 things got worse, but Jonny B. did a few fixes on HTML parsing and Mauritz is working a lot on HTML-WikiSyntax compatibility If you use only WikiSyntax, all is fine	[16:35]
Merbster	ther'es a plugin that parses HTML {HTML()} {HTML} then you can use HTML even if only wiki syntax is enabled	[16:36]
fabricius	Merbster: yes, but that has a completely different focus than WYSIWYG - it is to write plain HTML and get it parsed in between WikiSyntax	[16:37]
Merbster	fabricius, I know. But if he NEEDS html for some stuff he can use that and have both the easy of wiki syntax and the power of HTML ON THE SAME PAGE :D We do it at work	[16:38]
fabricius	Merbster: WYSIWYG editor is for non-tecchie users who do not want or feel not able to learn any syntax - never mind if HTML or Wiki	[16:38]
shana_	favricius, I have WYSIWYG turned off. and I have a input box now. Fixed!	[16:38]
Merbster	fabricius, but wysiwyg is not in a usable state atm. too many bugs and inconsitencies.	[16:39]
fabricius	shana_: if you want to use WYSIWYG lateron, just come back - there are a few people who have that on focus and you can ask me aswell	[16:39]
shana_	Thanks everyone for the help! :D Okay, fabricius, will do!	[16:40]
fabricius	and shana_ if you need HTML in the meantime, just follow Merbsters advice, who is absolutely right in what he said	[16:40]
Merbster	shana_, if you need Jquery / javascript on yor page there's {JQ()} {JQ}	[16:41]
fabricius	Merbster: you are right, yes - too many bugs and inconsistencies - WYSIWYG is one of the BIG bits and pieces	[16:41]
Merbster	fabricius, I work at a building engineering company, engineers are usually not afraid of "special codes" etc. But that is certainly not for all user groups :)	[16:42]
shana_	Merbster, I have a user that doesn't know anything about html or JS I just turned on the WYSIWYG for that reason.	[16:42]
Merbster	shana_, you can use the JS to "style" the included trackers for example shana_, http://doc.tiki.org/PluginJq <- here	[16:42]
fabricius	Merbster, shana_ that's why I focus on that and other bits and pieces - acceptance of collaborative software by non-tecchie users ...	[16:43]
Merbster	hide fields depending on selections in other tracker fields etc.	[16:43]
fabricius	people just want to use - not to learn	[16:44]
ihtus	@sylvieg: do you know in what php file I can see how "crypt-md5" is implemented?	[16:44]
Merbster	ihtus, my guess would be lib/auth	[16:44]
fabricius	but really shana_ Tiki is reallyeasy to use in respect of most of the core functionalities	[16:44]
shana_	fabricius, it's a great feature! i look forward to it working. definitely helpful.	[16:44]
sylvieg	ihtus: probably in lib/userslib.php	[16:45]
Merbster	ihtus, in that lib/auth dir most (if not all?) functions for authentication is there. atleast there must be something there reading the password. :P	[16:45]
fabricius	heading away again	[16:45]
shana_	It's hard to try to explain to a 65 year old they need to use {HTML()} {HTML} lol.	[16:45]
Merbster	shana_, I know. we have those too :P	[16:45]
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ihtus	thanks!	[16:45]
Merbster	recently one called and complained that we expected him to remember his own password...	[16:45]
fabricius\|busy	hahahahaha R O F L	[16:46]
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Merbster	the worst part is; I'm not even joking. it's a true story	[16:49]
fabricius\|busy	what does he expect? that your boss employes a password rememberer? or give the passwords to the cleaners, as they have the physical keys anyway?	[16:52]
Merbster	fabricius\|busy, I don't know... :P	[16:53]
fabricius\|busy	ah you as IT represeantative could have a list in your office and whenever somebody needs a password he calls you and you dictate it easier perhabs with e-mail I write you an e-mail - encrypted or not? and you send it back to me the password	[16:53]
Merbster	It would be a nasty risk. to have ONE file with all passwords :P	[16:54]
fabricius\|busy	maybe that would require more employees - more jobs is good for our society - less social health care	[16:55]
Merbster	lol	[16:55]
fabricius\|busy	every company with more than 20 employees should have a password rememberance department and once you change your employer (if you ever would have to as a password rememberer) you get always good references ;-) so have to head off	[16:55]
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Merbster	fabricius\|busy, sounds like something that would exist if "Mother Russia" had prevailed :P	[16:58]
marclaporte	marclaporte recommends http://doc.tiki.org/Clipperz+online+password+manager	[16:58]
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Merbster	marclaporte, don don't let our users know I don't want our passwords external places :P	[17:07]
marclaporte	you can install a local copy	[17:07]
Merbster	And leave it for a potential thief? :P no... It's ONE THING we want them to remember	[17:08]
marclaporte	https://www.ohloh.net/tags/password hehe	[17:10]
Merbster	luckily our users are not familiar with #tikiwiki :P	[17:11]
marclaporte	hehe how many passwords do they need to remember?	[17:12]
Merbster	1 everything is integrated with our AD even Tiki :) we used the option to only allow admin to login via. tikis own user system. so the AD passwords aren't even stored in Tikis DB quite awesome	[17:12]
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marclaporte	:-) If there is just one password, there is no point for a password manager	[17:21]
Merbster	that is exactly our point. :) marclaporte, are you busy?	[17:24]
marclaporte	yeah	[17:27]
Merbster	ok nevermind then	[17:27]
marclaporte	tell me what's on your mind :-)	[17:27]
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Merbster	marclaporte, I need some sparring from a more experienced programmer regarding some application design	[17:29]
marclaporte	heh marclaporte is not the right person sylvieg, lphuberdeau, nkoth, niclone and RobertPlummer are more suitable	[17:30]
Merbster	well. I got an "answer" from my students group chat on skype: Adapter Pattern :) nkoth, fabricius went amok and wrote alot about the perspective hack you helped me create. I don't know if you have read any of it?	[17:31]
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nkoth	Merbster: no	[17:33]
Merbster	nkoth, http://dev.tiki.org/Areas	[17:35]
nkoth	it's pretty lengthy, i will have to read it before commenting	[17:36]
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jonnyb	polom	[17:39]
RobertPlummer	polom jonnyb	[17:39]
jonnyb	hi RobertPlummer - you weren't anywhere near the storm were you? hope ricks99 and all are ok over that way	[17:40]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: Nope, safe and sound. Went and played golf Saturday ;).	[17:41]
jonnyb	cool	[17:41]
shana_	Merbster, i found the issue. The Font names had a " in the box on the Wysiwyg control panel. I removed the " and bam. The Wysiwyg works perfect!!	[17:44]
Merbster	shana_, nice to know! :)	[17:48]
shana_	:D i know. a simple " breaks everything. kind of important i think lol	[17:49]
Merbster	Merbster eats dinner	[17:50]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36604 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php: tikiwiki: [FIX][ENH] Make offset if explicitly set as plugin parameter to stick even if tikiwiki: other trackerlist paginates on the page... need better fix for pagination of tikiwiki: tracker plugins in general to avoid conflict across multiple plugins, maybe in tikiwiki: conjunction with ajax pagination tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r36605 10/branches/7.x/tiki-admin_layout.php: [bp/r36603][FIX]section layout: display the prefs	[18:14]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r36606 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-admin_layout.php: [bp/r36603][FIX]section layout: display the prefs	[18:16]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36607 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_features.tpl: would be nicer if BBB had its own admin panel, but until then... tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36608 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Improving admin panels for maps	[18:23]
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deeku	Hi, can anyone tell me if this tiki site is rendering correctly in Safari? http://quiztease.com	[18:24]
Merbster	is it possible to have PDO return the primary key value of the newly inserted record with mysql? is it just lastInsertId ?	[18:27]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r36609 10/trunk/templates/tiki.tpl: [FIX]section layout: respect top and bottom setting in tiki-admin_layout.php	[18:29]
lphuberdeau	If you use the table interface for the insert, it will just provide it TikiDb_Table which is provided by ->table() on all libs that inherit TikiDb_Bridge (almost everything) but it does use lastinsertid	[18:31]
deeku	thanks cia-50	[18:32]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, I am coding glueware. so no tikilib here	[18:33]
lphuberdeau	ah, no other way then	[18:33]
Merbster	I guess "sequence object" would translate to "table" in mysql	[18:34]
lphuberdeau	nah, it has no equivalent really the parameter is ignored	[18:34]
deeku	is there anything specific i should do in tiki-admin_layout to fix the problem?	[18:34]
Merbster	So I will get the global last inserted ID even if it is from another table?	[18:34]
lphuberdeau	it's per-connection, so bound to be to your last query	[18:35]
Merbster	So each session to the webserver will have it's own connection? that maybe a badly phrased question do you get the meaning or should I try to elaborate?	[18:35]
lphuberdeau	it's per-request, not per-session	[18:36]
Merbster	So all concurent users on the webserver will share the same instance of my PDO object?	[18:37]
lphuberdeau	no	[18:37]
deeku	Hi, can anyone tell me if this tiki site is rendering correctly in Safari? http://quiztease.com	[18:37]
lphuberdeau	deeku: btw, CIA-50 is a bot that publishes the commit activity, not an actual person answering questions	[18:38]
deeku	hmm, silly me, just saw that on the whois...	[18:38]
lphuberdeau	deeku: that site seems way too wide on my screen the right column seems to be having trouble	[18:38]
deeku	thanks for the feedback - problem is that it renders perfectly in IE and a few other browsers	[18:39]
lphuberdeau	it's probably some div that's not closed properly	[18:39]
jonnyb	hi all, deeku: i'm getting a blank dark grey page in Safari, so i guess not... seems scrolled a long way down the page	[18:39]
lphuberdeau	each browser can handle those differently	[18:39]
deeku	thanks for the tip about the div, will have a look to see if I can find it	[18:40]
lphuberdeau	I clicked on a random link and that page is fine so it's likely in the content of the home page	[18:41]
deeku	ok, thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction.	[18:42]
jonnyb	i think it might be an extra close div on the footer custom code	[18:42]
deeku	checking... but would the footer div not render other pages incorrectly too?	[18:43]
jonnyb	no, sorry, i think lphuberdeau is right, it's only the home page that's screwy exacto	[18:44]
deeku	Would anyone know if mthis is correct: {DIV(clear=both)}{DIV} should there be a closing div?	[18:47]
jonnyb	no, that looks ok the second {DIV} is the closing one (for historical reasons :P )	[18:48]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36610 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_rss.tpl: fix link	[18:50]
deeku	Hmm, strange that I could not find any divs which are not closed or any extra closed divs...	[18:50]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36611 10/trunk/lib/prefs/session.php: add warning about feature which can lock you out tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36612 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: feature_maps is specific to mapserver and not maps in general	[18:51]
deeku	I am going to remove all content and put in one section at a time till I get the rendering issue again. Will figure this out, thanks jonnyb and lphuberdeau for your help	[18:52]
jonnyb	deeku: it might be a bug in a plugin you have on that page good plan	[18:52]
marclaporte	jonnyb : http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-admin_modules.php third tab : "Show all modules" seems to have inverse behavior ?	[18:53]
jonnyb	hi marclaporte hmm, curious...	[18:53]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36613 10/trunk/ (admin/include_profiles.php lib/prefslib.php lib/tikilib.php): [REF] prefs: Resolve apparent duplicate function getModifiedPreferences (well spotted chealer, thanks) tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36614 10/trunk/ (lib/prefs/feed.php templates/admin/include_rss.tpl): removing RSS for Mapserver which seems to never have been finished (and I don't see a use case for this) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36615 10/trunk/lib/ (core/TikiConnect.php prefs/connect.php): [REF][FIX] connect: Fix getModifiedPreferences issue and add more prefs to protected & private lists (more to do), also add some basic tags to the prefs	[18:55]
Bernard1	i know.... oups sry	[18:59]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36616 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: [FIX] module admin: Correct module_list_show_all behaviour ($module_list_show_all is always set - thanks marclaporte) tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36617 10/trunk/ (lib/prefs/feed.php templates/admin/include_rss.tpl): Single RSS feed for all trackers never existed, only RSS per tracker	[19:03]
deeku	get it working - the list line of the content ended with {HTML} and I added --- (line break) and now everything is working perfectly.	[19:08]
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jonnyb	well done, probably means there's something weird still going on above it but hope the fix holds for you :)	[19:10]
deeku	thanks jonnyb, could not have done this without your help and lphuberdeaus. Bye!	[19:11]
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marclaporte	marclaporte will try theme generator on demo.tiki.org/trunk/ for jonnyb :-)	[19:12]
jonnyb	jonnyb reaches for sunglasses	[19:13]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36618 10/trunk/ (templates/admin/include_anchors.tpl tiki-admin.php): [ENH] Removing yet more duplication, use the same source array to display anchors tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36619 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: remove notes like 'This feature is still under development.' because sometimes it's not true and sometimes, it's obvious (all features could use more dev)	[19:22]
marclaporte	jonnyb : it works on a fresh install (maybe it was something specific about my instance)	[19:25]
jonnyb	the interface is certainly a bit flakey, and often changes don't seem to show up straight after saving - all need more dev ;) but into tiki connect at the moment, trying to decide how to do the feature voting system needs to be hidden most of the time, too many icons etc there already	[19:26]
marclaporte	+1 for Tiki Connect, which is the priority!	[19:28]
jonnyb	lphuberdeau: i'd like to schedule some time to discuss a few tiki connect things when you have time, this week would be good	[19:30]
lphuberdeau	hum, ok, how long would it take?	[19:31]
jonnyb	30 mins or so? there are a few areas, i'll write a preliminary mail	[19:32]
lphuberdeau	ok	[19:33]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36620 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feed.php: valid default	[19:43]
	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36621 10/trunk/ (lib/prefs/feature.php templates/admin/include_features.tpl): Some improvements to the prefs, including a new section for interaction with online services or other software	[19:49]
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sylvieg	sylvieg in little clouds... What is tiki connect?	[19:49]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r36622 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Merging some more redundency	[19:50]
jonnyb	sylvieg: tiki connect is a system to collect usage data from tiki instances, coming in Tiki 8	[19:51]
sylvieg	so ... an actionlog for multiple tikis?	[19:52]
jonnyb	http://dev.tiki.org/connect (needs updating probably i expect)	[19:52]
lphuberdeau	I think is was on the roadmap since Tiki3	[19:52]
jonnyb	not that fine tuned, much more generic info about what features are used (and liked) yes, it's been a long time coming... it's sort of (slightly) working now in trunk	[19:52]
sylvieg	I suppose jonnyb willbe happy to do a little demo when it will be more or less ready :-)	[19:55]
jonnyb	absolutely!	[19:55]
sylvieg	thx	[19:59]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36623 10/trunk/lib/prefs/wiki.php: On new installs, prevent special characters in page names tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r36624 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_fgal.tpl: TikiDocs and TikiDraw are part of file gallery, so should be in fgal admin panel	[20:05]
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fabricius\|busy	hi jonnyb how r u? btw. sylvieg I didn't say hello this afternoon,sry - hello now :--D	[20:17]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36625 10/trunk/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] not clean removal before of forum posts	[20:18]
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sylvieg	hello - irc is an open gate. some people go to bed, some wake up .. ;-)	[20:19]
jonnyb	hi fabricius - just about to log off need a break, chat tomorrow?	[20:19]
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fabricius	yea, if you want - it would be a pleasure ahtoo lait	[20:23]
nkoth	lphuberdeau: ping	[20:24]
Merbster	I stopped working 30 min. ago and it's 22:26 here What have you been up today fabricius ? besides writing the "Areas bible" ? :P up to*	[20:26]
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fabricius	Merbster: had an appointment related to the custody issue withmy ex wife and woked on a website for a presentation next weekend	[20:32]
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Merbster	fabricius, I see, both bad and good.	[20:33]
	night night tikidudes - AND dudettes!	[20:43]
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sylvieg	is dynamic link fields broken in trunk? (or did I miss again the aprams)	[20:53]
marclaporte	sylvieg : can I ask about the perf issue you reported with search?	[20:53]
sylvieg	I think lph fixed it... but I did not find the commit yet ... (still did not empty my mail box from the vaation)	[20:54]
marclaporte	he just wrote a test	[20:57]
sylvieg	so are the stop words eliminated?	[20:59]
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marclaporte	He says that in trunk, it was already the case. But what about 7.x? (he doesn't know) marclaporte is counting on sylvieg to get to the bottom of this...	[21:15]
sylvieg	yes - seems to be a version problem ... and a lot of code has changed .. not easy to spot where...	[21:17]
	sylvieg confirms: not fixed in tiki7 - but work in trunk	[21:22]
marclaporte	marclaporte hopes sylvieg can pinpoint it	[21:26]
sylvieg	I can give you the patch I did for myself in tikik7 ;-) but it is too dirty to commit lph changes a lot of code around the search	[21:26]
nkoth	anyne aware of something that would cause forum replies not to be indexed in search anymore (since a few days ago)?	[21:28]
marclaporte	nkoth : lph says he doesn't recall making any changes at that level (he can check tomorrow) ping him sylvieg : what is the patch?	[21:32]
nkoth	interesting, new ones get added via incremental search but something is breaking in rebuild index. I'll figure it out... it's one of those days	[21:33]
sylvieg	marclaporte: I read the zend file with the stop words and I filter the token	[21:34]
marclaporte	marclaporte sends positive waves to nkoth the jedi	[21:34]
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nkoth	after I rebuild index, I get a bunch of red X with the number 1 next to them, any idea what they mean?	[21:53]
	probably just is crashdump	[21:59]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36626 10/trunk/lib/search/searchlib-unified.php: [ENH][MOD] Add tracker comments to search indexing	[23:04]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36627 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Expr/Tokenizer.php: [FIX] Unified search not matching string that is 0 tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36628 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/ContentSource/ (CommentSource.php ForumPostSource.php): [FIX][ENH] Index forum post replies as forum posts as well, and add parent_thread_id to index as well	[23:31]
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	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36629 10/trunk/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] Index forum posts and replies as forum posts, not comments, and make sure deletion refreshes index	[23:55]

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