#tikiwiki 2011-09-01,Thu

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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36752 10/trunk/lib/setup/language.php: [FIX] Detect browser language not working when global language is not English (Closes: #2519, r16846 regression). Thanks Xavier de Pedro	[00:01]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36753 10/branches/7.x/lib/setup/language.php: [bp/r36752][FIX] Detect browser language not working when global language is not English tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36754 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/setup/language.php: [bp/r36753][FIX] Detect browser language not working when global language is not English	[00:07]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36755 10/trunk/templates/modules/ (mod-groups_emulation.tpl mod-search_wiki_page.tpl): [FIX] module names tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36756 10/trunk/tiki-switch_lang.php: [REF] switch_lang: from parameter is apparently no longer used	[02:55]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36757 10/trunk/tiki-switch_lang.php: [REF] switch_lang: remove $orig_url manipulation which is useless now that the switchLang parameter is no longer used tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36758 10/trunk/tiki-switch_lang.php: [REF] switch_lang: remove $orig_url manipulation which should be useless the way the switch is done now. I can't understand the comment (tiki-view_lang.php ?)	[03:04]
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OTR	Tiki 7.1: attempting to import MW files and get: Mediawiki XML file version 0.5 is not supported. any suggestions	[03:37]
chealer	OTR: which MediaWiki version are you importing from?	[03:43]
OTR	1.17 most recent version both on mw and wikipedia and my own wiki	[03:43]
chealer	OTR: are you sure that's supported?	[03:44]
OTR	have no idea thats why i was asking it says it only goes to like 1.14 or thereabouts so i was trying to figure out if there is a work around	[03:44]
chealer	OTR: I suggest asking on forums, but good luck	[03:46]
OTR	alrighty thanx!	[03:46]
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SJ-Jay	polom guys	[06:48]
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Merbster	good morning mr. fabricius :)	[07:16]
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stix	Hi guys. I updated php 5.3.x to 5.3.8, and now I get an error when I try to search for something on my site: Fatal error: Call to undefined function iconv_strlen() in /usr/home/stix/www/ejerforeningen-7.0/lib/core/Zend/Search/Lucene/Search/QueryLexer.php on line 342 I can comment the line out, but no matter what I search for, I get no results	[07:20]
SJ-Jay	wasn't 5.3.8 buggy?	[07:21]
stix	I am on tikiwiki 7 SJ-Jay: havn't heard that it's the latest in the freebsd ports tree	[07:21]
SJ-Jay	oh sorry.. i was thinking on 3.5.7 5.3.7	[07:21]
stix	oh okay	[07:24]
Merbster	stix, are you from a scandinavian country?	[07:33]
stix	yes I am	[07:34]
Merbster	I thought "Ejerforeningen" looked kind of danish :P stix, if I where you I would check if iconv extension is activated in the new version of PHP you installed	[07:34]
stix	yes it sure does :)	[07:36]
Merbster	stix, if you search for iconv in php.ini look if the extension is loaded and if it's outcommented	[07:36]
stix	Merbster: okay, will check	[07:36]
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Merbster	stix, did it solve your problem?	[07:43]
stix	yes, I don't think the extension was installed, so now I wonder why I havn't seen this error before now	[07:44]
Merbster	stix, maybe the earlier version of PHP had another php.ini file? - I'm not sure how BSDs ports works with config files etc.	[07:46]
stix	no it shouldn't be touched, I've made other changes to it wow, så får jeg bare en ny fejl: Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /usr/home/stix/www/ejerforeningen-7.0/lib/core/Zend/Search/Lucene/Document/Html.php oops, what I meant to say was, no I get a new error: Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in /usr/home/stix/www/ejerforeningen-7.0/lib/core/Zend/Search/Lucene/Document/Html.php	[07:46]
SJ-Jay	woa! en dansker mere!	[07:48]
stix	yeah we rule! :)	[07:49]
SJ-Jay	yiiir :D	[07:49]
stix	now I am installing php5-dom - still wondering why I havn't seen this before	[07:55]
Merbster	stix, Good question.	[07:55]
stix	But now everything is good	[08:00]
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Merbster	just how we like it :)	[08:35]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[11:18]
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kreditkid	g'morning	[11:32]
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Merbster	hey ricks99 and kreditkid	[12:00]
kreditkid	hey Merb	[12:01]
ihtus	hi everyone	[12:02]
kreditkid	got any suggestions for me? http://www.explorecreditrepair.com	[12:04]
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ricks99	what's the problem kreditkid?	[12:08]
RobertPlummer	ihtus: polom	[12:08]
ihtus	RobertPlummer: what "polom" means? :)	[12:10]
RobertPlummer	ihtus: polom = hello	[12:10]
KreditKid\|brb	no problem per se, just wondering what i could do to make it better. i've submitted it to all the search engines. now i'm just trying to get it listed in online directories to increase my # of incoming links.	[12:11]
ricks99	@ihtus: you might find the "unofficial" Tiki glossary helpful: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Glossary @KreditKid: Good content is the #1 way to increase your seo value	[12:11]
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ricks99	ricks99 needs a coffee break	[12:13]
Bernard1	good break rick ! :) hi all	[12:13]
Merbster	hey Bernard1	[12:14]
ricks99	Hiya Bernard1 (and Merbster)	[12:14]
Merbster	KreditKid\|brb, If I where you I'd add a FAQ around "what can creditrepair do for you" because I sitll have trouble seeing what's the main purpose of the site is, besides tips on getting a better credit rating. it might be because of regional/cultural differences. In denmark the credit "rating" agency is governmental.	[12:16]
ricks99	And check/review your site title for the home page... ."Update" doesn't really tell users too much	[12:18]
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KreditKid	awesome! thanks for the suggestions. i need to change "update" to something else, but I'm not sure how to change that without changing the name of the blog. the FAQ's section is a great idea. i'm gonna get started on that.	[12:20]
ricks99	on Admin: General (I think) you can add your site name to the TITLE element of each generated Tiki page. This would give more info	[12:21]
Merbster	you're right ricks99 it's there	[12:22]
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KreditKid	thanks for that. i found the site title settings and fixed it. now i'm gonna start working on an FAQ page.	[12:30]
Bernard1	On a winxp machine when loading a tw6.p i have all kind of strange issues. When loading on ff i see the database error screen then the application quit, on IE the application hold till i load the clear-cache page then it quit, same with chrome. This is specific with this computer. i test on other mac, win everything is fine. anyone have seen this once ?	[12:34]
Merbster	nope sounds like a very screwy computer :P	[12:35]
ricks99	do you have custom settings on that PC?	[12:37]
Merbster	Bernard1, sounds like a re-install of windows. But getting a DB error is kind of freaky since it's PHP that throws the DB error. Not any client side code.	[12:48]
Bernard1	i works a few days ago nothing special an old working computer	[12:48]
Merbster	old computers die :P Bernard1, if it's ONLY that computer and you are absolutely sure you cannot replciate... Reinstall your old computer with a fresh windows/linux	[12:54]
Bernard1	sry phone brb	[12:58]
chealer	Bernard1: your browsers are crashing?	[13:02]
ihtus	We have a tiki (6.3) and the popup effect for images is nor working, I found inside source code that "jqueryTiki.colorbox = false;" and no js files are embedded, How can I set it to "jqueryTiki.colorbox = true;" and embed the js files for colorbox? <script type="text/javascript" src="lib/jquery/colorbox/jquery.colorbox.js"></script>	[13:04]
Merbster	ihtus, I don't know what effect you are talking about since I did not use it. but most JS stuff is in look and feel in settings	[13:05]
sylvieg	ihtus: I think there is a setting in admin->textarea -> ui effect	[13:06]
ricks99	@ihtus: do u have the jquery feature enabled? hi sylvieg	[13:07]
sylvieg	hi ricks99	[13:08]
ihtus	I am talking about the effect like shadowbox when pressing the image ricks99: how can I check if I have jquery enabled? inside admin panel?	[13:08]
ricks99	y, see sylvieg's answer ^^^ also, did you inlcude the rel="box[g]" (or similar) in your IMG tag?	[13:10]
ihtus	yes {img fileId="1084" thumb="y" rel="box[g]"} sylvieg: I see in the bottom "Cookies External Pages Cache Toolbars Content Templates DSN External Wikis" which one?	[13:11]
sylvieg	? in tiki-admin.php?page=look tab: 4= tab can be somewhere else depending onnversion look for shadowbox	[13:13]
ricks99	@ihtus: pls see docs: http://doc.tiki.org/Interface and also http://doc.tiki.org/UI+Effects	[13:13]
chealer	polom	[13:16]
sylvieg	the zip uploads in fgal is not working when the site is on safe-mode (because it creates a dir in temp/.. anf of course safe-mode blocks file creation in this new dir). Is there a way to overpass that? without making temp a safe-mode exception....	[13:17]
ihtus	ricks99: that worked! thank you very much for your help!	[13:18]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Where do I turn lucene off? I keep getting those timeouts. Anything I can do to fix it?	[13:19]
sylvieg	RobertPlummer: admin->search	[13:19]
RobertPlummer	sylvieg: I tried that, my search isn't working. sylvieg: Not sure what is going on, I am on trunk. sylvieg: no error either (and I have errors on)	[13:19]
Bernard1	sry back	[13:21]
sylvieg	you need either unified search or mysql search...	[13:21]
Bernard1	chealer: yes browsers are crashing ff, ie and chrome on a winxp machine	[13:21]
sylvieg	or at least take away the incremental .. unitl the fix is found :-)	[13:21]
chealer	Bernard1: which Firefox version do you use?	[13:21]
lphuberdeau	you need to disable the incremental indexing part	[13:22]
Bernard1	chealer: 4	[13:25]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: thanks	[13:25]
ricks99	you're welcome ihtus. glad to help. (tiki docs are actually quite good!)	[13:25]
ihtus	I will use the docs before asking here :)	[13:25]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: How long does the lucene rebuild index generally take on a fresh install?	[13:28]
lphuberdeau	really depends on the machine building it doc.t.o takes about 3 minutes	[13:30]
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lphuberdeau	but in my test environment the same index can take an hour	[13:31]
jonnyb	late poloms	[13:32]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: It's too late :)	[13:34]
ricks99	hiya jonnyb	[13:34]
jonnyb	It's never too late...	[13:34]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: Any words of wisdom about sheet + s5 in 7 & 6?	[13:34]
jonnyb	hi all RobertPlummer: not really - all my time's going into trunk at the moment	[13:34]
RobertPlummer	:)	[13:35]
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jonnyb	ricks99: i was looking at your page about smarties (http://twbasics.keycontent.org/article65-Paperback-Finally-on-Amazon in case anyone missed it ;) ) and was wondering about all the little sharing icons you have - i'd like to add them to the share module for tiki 8 (well, some of them at least) - do you have the code handy for them?	[13:36]
chealer	Bernard1: your machine/software has something wrong. maybe you have a fault browser plugin s/fault/faulty/	[13:38]
ricks99	@jonnyb: first, i'm glad someone actually reads what i write... ;-)... it is basically from addthis.com. they allow for highly customized ui just generate the code and drop it in a module.	[13:40]
jonnyb	ah, ok - i was thinking we should add facebook, twitter and google at least to tiki - shouldn't be too tricky i think	[13:41]
ricks99	we have a SHARETHIS (basically the same thing), but ive been thinking about making a more generic plugin/module. that would allow you to add your own tracking code for analytics the problem is, each service (sharethis, addthis, etc.) is slightly different but it is really quite easy to generate the necessary code from the provider then cut/paste into a tiki module (or hire me to do it for you) :-)	[13:42]
jonnyb	hmm, i'm not keen on the sharethis thing, often seems to break javascript somewhere along the line on another topic - anyone got any idea about filter_out_sefurl()? i'm getting rss errors from &'s in article titles causing invalid urls	[13:45]
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lphuberdeau	jonnyb, I fixed something about that recently although it was for blogs I believe	[13:49]
OTR	tiki 7.1: is there a reason i get a crazy page generated on fresh install that i can't delete? http://offgridops.org/opcenter/tiki-index.php titled bb....ce30 which is now the main page	[13:50]
jonnyb	it seems to add the title to the url, even if the prefs are off (without cleaning it)	[13:50]
lphuberdeau	all you need to do is make sure do urlencode the title	[13:50]
jonnyb	but if the pref is on it does that	[13:51]
ricks99	@OTR: check your "home page" and "home page feature" settings	[13:51]
lphuberdeau	your main page seems to be HomePage to be me*	[13:51]
OTR	ok will do http://offgridops.org/opcenter/tiki-index.php?page=bb850c74f9bfd9c6703bf01ce1e1c3e0 this was generated without me doing anything	[13:52]
chealer	jonnyb: I don't know SEFURL much but what's the problem exactly?	[13:54]
ricks99	yes. tiki will automatically create a "homepage" for the wiki. usually it is named HomePage (by default) but depending on your settings, it may create a randmonly named page instead	[13:54]
chealer	OTR: you may have renamed the HomePage or something. there's a somewhat known problem about that.	[13:54]
ricks99	@OTR: it sounds like you have a conflict in your settings somewhere (e.g., the wiki is disabled, but you have the wiki selected as the site home)	[13:54]
chealer	OTR: I remember jonnyb fixed something about that but I think it was before Tiki 7	[13:54]
jonnyb	if you have an article with & in the title, and feature_sefurl_title_article=n then tiki-articles_rss.php blows up (funny, just deleted that "homepage guid" bug off my list this week, thought it had gone away!)	[13:54]
chealer	jonnyb: what kind of URLs do you get?	[13:55]
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jonnyb	invalid ones that throw a zend exception	[13:56]
lphuberdeau	jonny, you, had the same issue in blogs, was really just about adding urlencode()	[13:56]
jonnyb	e.g. http://localhost/tiki/trunk/article85-DARPA To Sponsor R&D For Interstellar Travel yes lphuberdeau, but the trouble is if the prefs is on, filter_out_sefurl() does it ok, so urlencoding again would be bad basically it's not obeying the pref	[13:56]
lphuberdeau	never liked filter_out_sefurl much	[13:58]
jonnyb	it's a rather confusing place - why on earth is it not in a library? ;)	[13:59]
lphuberdeau	I wish I knew	[13:59]
jonnyb	anyway, patching it up...	[14:00]
ihtus	can i report here a grammatical mistake inside tiki doc?	[14:06]
lphuberdeau	it's better if you just fix it	[14:06]
jonnyb	hi ihtus - no, log in and fix it! :D	[14:06]
ricks99	sure, but better would be to fix it	[14:06]
jonnyb	(they all chorus!)	[14:06]
ricks99	lol :-) great minds think alike	[14:07]
ihtus	:) ok so I have to register :)	[14:07]
ricks99	@ihtus: pls do register and join the tiki community. we're a friendly bunch	[14:08]
ihtus	just to be sure: http://doc.tiki.org/Permissions&structure=Documentation+TOC -- ".. the group will lost his admin permission for an object .." i think it should be "will loose"	[14:08]
ricks99	ricks99 thinks that may have been written by a canadian ;-)	[14:09]
ihtus	and I am from toronto :D	[14:09]
OTR	sorry was outside. heres the deal: new instal, set up collaborative community and bam created the page. nothing else happened on my end. duplicated it three times w/new installs	[14:09]
ricks99	ricks99 thinks that may have been written by a french canadian. ;-)	[14:10]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36759 10/trunk/ (tiki-blogs_rss.php tiki-sefurl.php): [FIX] sefurl: Obey feature_sefurl_title_article and feature_sefurl_title_blog prefs (prevents uncaught exception on rss feeds)	[14:10]
OTR	would be nice to delete the page, but if it isnt a security deal no prob heading off to work y'all have a nice day	[14:11]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36760 10/trunk/tiki-sefurl.php: [DOC] (Start of) some documentation for filter_out_sefurl()	[14:19]
chealer	good fix jonnyb	[14:30]
jonnyb	thanks chealer	[14:31]
sylvieg	chealer: you ask questions about very old commits...	[14:38]
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luciash	polom	[14:47]
jonnyb	polom luciash	[14:47]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36761 10/trunk/ (24 files in 9 dirs): [REF] filter_out_sefurl(): remove unused smarty parameter	[14:49]
chealer	hi sylvieg. yeah... I have a sometimes creepy curiosity sylvieg: thanks for the answer. would you mind if I removed all persistence from the feature?	[14:49]
sylvieg	go ahead	[14:50]
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RobertPlummer	man all this smarty work is really awesome guys. and everything else too, but seeing tiki move this fast is really something.	[15:04]
luciash	luciash back in 'good old' irssi again	[15:12]
chealer	cool luciash. did you hear about Gopher v2 coming?	[15:15]
luciash	nope, chealer	[15:18]
chealer	luciash: it's going to kick HTTP's ass. we totally need to get Tiki on Gopher v2 luciash: seriously, did you just switch back to irssi? from what?	[15:19]
Merbster	I use Xchat for windows.	[15:20]
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luciash	chealer: nope, just got machine where i wasrunning it in screen off-line (power fan failure - old machine) and didn't get it repaired yet, so i was mainly visiting here via the web irc interface lately	[15:24]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36762 10/trunk/ (12 files in 7 dirs): tikiwiki: [NEW] connect: Add prefs voting system, version 0.1 tikiwiki: Presentation (and icons) to be improved but the system basically works. Votes are sent with other data, currently only when clicking "Send Info" on the connect admin panel.	[15:24]
luciash	chealer: got a VPS now so installed screen and irssi there to use it again	[15:25]
chealer	luciash: aha. my sympathies :-P	[15:26]
luciash	thanks :)	[15:26]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r36763 10/trunk/lib/core/TikiConnect.php: [FIX] connect: Use serialize to store connection data instead of json_encode, which comes out a bit smaller but turns simple arrays into objects which may cause trouble in the future tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36764 10/trunk/lib/webodf/webodf.js: [ENH] Updated webodf to give us the ability to edit on the fly (ajax style) tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36765 10/trunk/lib/sheet/grid.php: [FIX] Ensure json has support for sheet, this was a merge from 7 tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36766 10/trunk/tiki-edit_draw.php: [FIX] Clarify permissions string tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36767 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Added ability to edit docs in tiki, and save back to database, initial test works with odt, need to add support for more open doc types	[15:29]
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RobertPlummer	polom marclaporte	[16:03]
marclaporte	RobertPlummer : can I ask for something easy? I just tested TikiDocs it works	[16:05]
RobertPlummer	lol	[16:05]
marclaporte	and with version history (awesome)	[16:05]
RobertPlummer	Ask away.	[16:05]
marclaporte	But when I am here: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-file_archives.php?fileId=8 There is no link to go back the actual file	[16:05]
RobertPlummer	Ah, handy. At the top?	[16:06]
marclaporte	yes	[16:06]
RobertPlummer	just "Back"?	[16:06]
marclaporte	no because you could have received by email "Latest version of file" ?	[16:07]
RobertPlummer	perfect On it.	[16:07]
marclaporte	#2 Here: http://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-file_archives.php?fileId=8, I can view archives via WebODF (perfect), but you can also edit them (If you edit them, what happens to versioning?) It should be impossible to do revisionist history	[16:08]
RobertPlummer	marclaporte: I will add that as well. locked file editing. Also need to make it better when editing. Need to make it auto-forward to the latest version. With ajax we don't want the page to reload if we can help it, so the fileId becomes outdated very fast, after the first save. So if the user refreshed, version conflict. So we need to make it auto forward to the latest image UNLESS they are meaning to look at a past revision, then lock it.	[16:09]
	So mark (and all) now that we have bluebox setup for tikisuite, and testing, perhaps we could use it in the real world? All the needs created are extensions and numbers for the new ones to enter.	[16:20]
marclaporte	RobertPlummer : +1 for Dogfood (but just so you know that # is temporary, I have another one for the real thing)	[16:23]
RobertPlummer	marclaporte: So we need volunteers, no?	[16:25]
marclaporte	yes!	[16:25]
RobertPlummer	Any volunteers that'd like to install jitsi and connect to bluebox.tikisuite.org and test it's capabilities for texting/voice/video? all ^	[16:26]
marclaporte	yes!!! RobertPlummer : maybe write up a short doc page at http://suite.tiki.org/Tiki+Suite+test+Jitsi+and+blue.box	[16:27]
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RobertPlummer	on it marclaporte: This is where the login script would be key. marclaporte: We might want to create one.	[16:31]
marclaporte	yes! you mean the provisioning?	[16:32]
RobertPlummer	A way to syncronize easily user accounts with tiki. dogfooding, woohoo!	[16:32]
marclaporte	http://www.jitsi.org/index.php/Documentation/Provisioning	[16:32]
RobertPlummer	Yea and that. There are 2 levels, first login to BlueBox.	[16:33]
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RobertPlummer	I'd like bluebox to, right before login, check if a user's credentials exist somewhere, auto add them to bluebox, then check the credentials based upon login, and allow the user to login. But it would look at tiki, so however tiki is setup, it would adapt. Giving it ldap standard tiki, whatever.	[16:34]
marclaporte	ok, so people don't need LDAP that's nice	[16:34]
RobertPlummer	Well, no, it would just work with tiki, not get rid of ldap. So you can use whatever means possible, but it is great for us, say there is a company who wants to integrate Bluebox + tiki. THey would only have to get tiki to work, and bluebox would piggy back tiki. Perhaps I will bring it up to the guys at #2600hz? See how do-able it is.	[16:35]
marclaporte	RobertPlummer : +1 So it's the same as Kaltura and BBB	[16:38]
RobertPlummer	Right. Like a "tiki app".	[16:38]
marclaporte	We need some sort of key between Tiki and blue.box	[16:38]
RobertPlummer	Plugable into tiki. right. Doesn't look like Darren is around, I will email him.	[16:38]
marclaporte	or the mailing list?	[16:39]
RobertPlummer	You have the addy for that? I will find it.	[16:40]
sylvieg	Is there a way to have in an html page {CODE(ishtml=0)}<xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>{CODE} tiki is eating the <xm in trunk and 7	[16:41]
RobertPlummer	sylvieg: Make a plugin for header. Unless there is one	[16:41]
sylvieg	what do you mean I just want to display the string..	[16:42]
marclaporte	perhaps PluginCode should be renamed pluginCodeEater ? :-) sylvieg : no more beach for you?	[16:43]
sylvieg	no :-( only tiki bug	[16:44]
marclaporte	hehe	[16:48]
RobertPlummer	marclaporte: http://dev.tiki.org/Docs Feed me! (I'm a bug eater)	[16:53]
marclaporte	hahahahhaha	[16:54]
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luciash	any idea where to look at when i get "Account Disabled" for one user but not others after upgrade to 6.4 ? the user looks fine, is not unvalidated, etc. when i am on tiki-adminusers temporarily i created new account for the user but would like to make it "Enabled" again with his old user name	[17:53]
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xavi	polom	[18:06]
jonnyb	luciash: i seem to remember there was an odd column in users_users that got a bit messed up somewhere around tiki 4 - maybe there's a clue in there?	[18:07]
xavi	luciash: this happened to me awhile ago...	[18:07]
jonnyb	polom xavi	[18:07]
xavi	and I recall fixing it by means of phpmyadmin directly hi jonnyb	[18:07]
luciash	polom xavi & jonnyb i see, it seems i will have to dig in the db directly then :-/ thanks both yep, it was upgrade from Tiki 4.x to Tiki 6.x	[18:08]
shana_	tiki 7.1 File Gallery error when editing existing photo details. ERROR: Unknown column 'creator' in 'field list' THE QUERY WAS: UPDATE `tiki_files` SET `name` = ?, `description` = ?, `lastModifUser` = ?, `lastModif` = ?, `author` = ?, `creator` = ? WHERE 1=1 AND `fileId` = ? LIMIT 1 Values: Jussta Reuters Photo, Reuters Photo with no added lighting or effects, admin, 1314900121, admin, 5 THE BUILT QUERY was likely: UPDATE `tiki_f `description` = 'Reuters Photo with no added lighting or effects', `lastModifUser` = 'admin', `lastModif` = '1314900121', `author` = NULL, `creator` = 'admin' WHERE 1=1 AND `fileId` = '5' LIMIT 1 any ideas on how to fix this?	[18:15]
jonnyb	shana_: have you run the database updater in the installer?	[18:18]
nkoth	shana_: got to check if this was perhaps fixed later, jonnyb: there is no creator field in tiki_files	[18:18]
shana_	jonnyb, it's a new install so i have not updated the database from the initial install	[18:19]
jonnyb	strange	[18:19]
nkoth	shana_: do you have feature 'Save files as drafts" on?	[18:20]
shana_	nkoth, yes. I do. should i turn that off?	[18:21]
nkoth	shana_: can you try? could be a bug with that feature	[18:21]
shana_	nkoth, that was the problem! Thanks so much :D	[18:23]
xavi	nkoth: hi. could you read the message I sent through the devel list about the issue I recently had with newsletters? in case you have any tip for me... or maybe sylvieg.... ^ brb (kitchen)	[18:24]
nkoth	xavi: according to lph reply he says there is a new feature that do batched sending... (I haven't tried it yet but it should fix your problem maybe)	[18:25]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36773 10/trunk/templates/fgal_context_menu.tpl: [FIX] Var ref for edit in menu for svg image type check tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36774 10/trunk/templates/tiki-edit_docs.tpl: [ENH] Added outset boarder to document to make it look like a document tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36775 10/branches/7.x/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] Prevent db error when feature_file_galleries_save_draft is on and file properties are updated tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36776 10/trunk/ (tiki-edit_docs.php tiki-edit_draw.php): tikiwiki: [FIX] Only lookup images if there is a fileId given, otherwise, empty array tikiwiki: [FIX] Added checks for file type, we don't want people editing wrong files in file editors, or ones that aren't supported	[18:28]
xavi	nkoth: I'm scared of attempting to upgrade to Tiki7 that site now, and in a few months beig forced to upgrade to 8.0 since 7.x will be deprecated, etc. that's why I'd like to keep using stable features, for that tiki site, for longer with a LTS, and dogfood our LTS at least for that tiki site	[18:34]
lphuberdeau	some fixes can't be made in stable releases	[18:35]
xavi	and some can balance is the key	[18:35]
lphuberdeau	this is not one of them	[18:35]
xavi	it may depend on what is "this"	[18:36]
sylvieg	xavi: I am still some big consumption in tiki7 while sending some newsletters for the error? did you check.. you should have a button in newsletters-> archive with the list of faulty emails - and eprhaps a resend	[18:36]
xavi	mmm, thanks for the tip. Checking...	[18:37]
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xavi	syliveg, unluckily, that edition that I sent yesterday is not listed under the archives (tiki-newsletter_archives.php?nlId=1), but it is listed under the "drafts" (tiki-send_newsletters.php?nlId=1 tab 2) and when I tried hours ago to click at the re-send the draft, It listed the full list of 1200+ users as subscribers for that newsetter draft	[18:42]
sylvieg	humm	[18:43]
xavi	even if yesterday the newsletter was sent to 900+ of them already successfully	[18:43]
luciash	xavi: if that helps i will unsubscribe from that list ;)	[18:44]
xavi	the other weird thing is that the equivalent newsletter sent last month (to 1180 subscribers) was sent successfully to all of them, afaik luciash: :-) thanks for your contribution ;-)	[18:44]
luciash	:D	[18:45]
sylvieg	do you have in the table tiki_sent_newsletters_errors the list of emails?	[18:45]
xavi	xavi wonders what do you do with a catalan newsletter lithe that every month ok, sylvieg, checking...	[18:45]
luciash	xavi: dogfood ;)	[18:45]
RobertPlummer	xavi, I haven't forgotten about the db fix for cloning/etc I will get to it, just been busy.	[18:46]
xavi	RobertPlummer: np. I saw in the irc log about your activity with WebODF (wohooo! :-) )	[18:47]
RobertPlummer	xavi, yea it is really neat, it even locks like a doc now. looks	[18:48]
xavi	sylvieg: I can't find that db table it's based on proposals/6x xavi checks just in case as a field in some other table	[18:48]
sylvieg	tiki_sent_newsletters_errors ... is in the code 6...	[18:49]
RobertPlummer	marclaporte: svn up demo.t.o/trunk, I want to see if that issue with the jpg image is stil there. marclaporte: I believe my last commit killed it. marclaporte: Should I invest some time in making the BigBlueButton login work with BlueBox, or generalizing it if needed? And as well making BlueBox work with it?	[18:50]
xavi	oups, you are right it's there	[18:51]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r36777 10/trunk/ (tiki-index.php tiki-read_article.php): tikiwiki: [MOD] feature_sync_lang: only change the language for the current object view. no persistence at all, even for the session. The description is vague on persistence anyway, and current behavior doesn't make sense to me. tikiwiki: Ref: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.cvs/68049	[18:52]
luciash	luciash thinks Tiki integration login with BBB is cool	[18:53]
xavi	sylvieg: plenty of stuff in that table (13000+ records)	[18:53]
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xavi	sylvieg: and for the last edition sent yesterday (Id 29), there are 1246 records (=all of hem), with nothing in the field "error"	[18:56]
sylvieg	:-( perhaps it is broken in 6 - I remembered I used this table last year.....	[18:57]
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xavi	ok	[18:58]
aaron	hello can anyone help me	[18:58]
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RobertPlummer	Guest45032: Whats up?	[18:58]
xavi	aaron:just ask providing details Guest45032: ^	[18:58]
Guest45032	whenever i try to use the profile section of my tiki page it says forbidden	[18:59]
xavi	Guest45032: explain what do you mean by "profile section" please	[18:59]
Guest45032	i am very new to the whole creating a website idea and am looking for something that is very easy to setup for my company	[18:59]
xavi	Guest45032: did you install by ftp ?	[19:00]
Guest45032	i have hostgator and through the cpanel it allowed me to install	[19:00]
xavi	mmm, no idea if it's cpanel related... but "forbidden" with profiles might mean that you have some file permission error on the server however, as I said, I have no experience with hostagor or cpanel-based installations if you install by hand thourgh ftp, I can tell you that it works, also in cpanel based hosts	[19:01]
Guest45032	when i go to the admin panel on my tiki it has a profile section and when i click on anything related to using a profile it says forbidden	[19:02]
xavi	yes, yes, I understood sorry, no more ideas myself (unless you try to install by hand through ftp there instead)	[19:02]
changi	polom	[19:03]
Guest45032	how do i do that any ideas for possibly a more simple program that i could use	[19:03]
nkoth	Guest45032: perhaps you can try a service like google sites	[19:05]
sylvieg	in trunk now the default home page is suffixed with -wiki :-(	[19:05]
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xavi	btw, lphuberdeau, thanks for coding and explaining that feature about newsletter throttling in tiki 7 (I will use it some day in the future for sure ) and thanks yesterday for your quick tip about how to send a svg file to a user, etc. because your short tip made me finish successfully the full day of work in time :-)	[19:22]
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arildb	!help	[19:35]
xavi	ok, newsletter re-sent by hand to the remaining hundreds of subscribers	[19:41]
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xavi	bbl	[19:46]
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changi	marclaporte: ping i think we loose a pref : wiki_pagealias_tokens	[19:53]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r36778 10/trunk/tiki-edit_submission.php: Notice	[19:59]
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RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: I think I found a way to speed up trackers much faster. I'm still testing and it is partly broken, but it looks promising.	[20:47]
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RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Is time cost from 14k to 12k that big of a deal? 16% gain? or should I say %16 faster.	[21:00]
	Nah, I think there was no change.	[21:05]
shana_	Anyone know where the css is located for the rollover text on Colorbox thumbnail images? tiki 7.1. or how/where to change it?	[21:07]
jonnyb	shana_: have you got firebug? (other DOM inspectors are available)	[21:08]
shana_	jonnyb, no i don't have fire bug. i was using the chrome "inspect element" and the only css i see is cboxElement but I can't seem to find which file that's in. I will look for firebug...	[21:09]
jonnyb	chrome should be able to tell you	[21:10]
xavi	rodrigo_sampaio: a question about i18n in plugins ...	[21:10]
rodrigo_sampaio	xavi: yes xavi: http://dev.tiki.org/Translate+mods xavi: work in progress	[21:10]
xavi	fwrite ($fd, $prg . '</br><a href="params-here">Save Image as SVG</a>'); see this ^ how do I internationalie the string "Save Image as SVG"? that line is in the php wikiplugin file	[21:11]
RobertPlummer	xavi, give me a min I will fix it.	[21:14]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36785 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.service.php: [FIX] require just in case not already included	[21:15]
xavi	RobertPlummer: ? it's from wikiplugin_rr.php, not from svg edit and you won't find that label as such (not committed yet as such)	[21:16]
RobertPlummer	oh Then nm If it is php, wrap it in tr() if it is in .tpl file, wrap in {tr}{/tr}	[21:18]
shana_	jonnyb, take a look if you have a second... http://jussta.com.previewdns.com/tiki-index.php?page=about it's the thumbnail photo's at the very bottom. the rollover has a blue background.	[21:19]
xavi	ok, RobertPlummer. I did wrap it in tra('foo') (as in the plugin params) but it didn't work	[21:20]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36786 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Made sheets not save tracker data when adding a tracker to it tikiwiki: [FIX] Created new way of making a tracker into am html table for less dependancy on wikiplugin tikiwiki: [NEW] Added the fieldId as key again, but made it optional (default false) and for field deff	[21:20]
xavi	will try tr()	[21:20]
RobertPlummer	I think tr = tra they are same, no?	[21:20]
jonnyb	shana_: it's the default cluetip css - lib/jquery/cluetip/jquery.cluetip.css not overridden in your theme (darkshine) sadly	[21:24]
xavi	ok, I think I got it . fwrite ($fd, $prg . '</br><a href="params-here">' . tr("Save Image as SVG") . '</a>'); tricky thingy	[21:26]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36787 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerquerylib.php: [FIX] Turned off rendering for text fields, they are static, this speeds things up greatly.	[21:29]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: That last commit shaves about 13 seconds load time, lol. DON'T RENDER if you don't need to ;) (test case = 700 rows/15 columns, all text fields lol) I'm out for the night, I might be on later.	[21:29]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r36788 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [ENH]Changed label, internationalize (thanks RobertPlummer!) and added style as button	[21:32]
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lphuberdeau	ah, not all text fields are static	[21:53]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r36789 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]SVG Filename based on wiki page fixed, and svg extension added for windows users	[21:57]
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chealer	nkoth: ping	[22:27]
nkoth	chealer	[22:27]
chealer	nkoth: thanks for the quick reply	[22:27]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r36790 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [ENH]Option to generate PDF from plot added (wohoo! finally), and display buttons side to side if both SVG and PDF links are requested. Using Cairo R package for both.	[22:27]
chealer	nkoth: could you point me to your commit you were talking about?	[22:27]
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chealer	nkoth: are you just thinking about http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/36131 ?	[22:30]
nkoth	chealer: I think r36032 is there something I am doing wrong with these ? waht do you "maintain" like invalidate?	[22:30]
chealer	nkoth: the descendants of a category can change, so it can't be cached permanently without being maintained or invalidated at times	[22:32]
nkoth	ah ok. should invalidate in update_category then	[22:33]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r36791 10/mods/trunk/Packages/wikiplugins-r.info.txt: Updated after adding SVG and PDF optional generation from plots for the user.	[22:34]
nkoth	I will add it	[22:34]
chealer	nkoth: update, add, remove I guess nkoth: childcategs (without the all) is maintained (not sure if properly or not)	[22:34]
nkoth	and my latest persp is a problem as well I suppose because it could be any integer Do you have time to help me sort this out? (bad week for me)	[22:35]
xavi	g'night all	[22:36]
chealer	nkoth: I guess it is... still have to check good night xavi	[22:36]
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chealer	nkoth: I have to go eat pretty much right now	[22:36]
nkoth	it doesn't have to be right away... I'm pretty swamped until next tues or wed	[22:37]
chealer	nkoth: I can try fixing when I come back, if you want	[22:38]
nkoth	tks chealer	[22:39]
chealer	nkoth: ew, workspaces, perspectives, that seems to be a mess what is ws_container? workspaces, perspectives AND undocumented functions bbl	[22:44]
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CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r36792 10/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/r/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rr.php: [FIX]Couple of minor fixes for anonymous users: fixed display below the chart, and avoid buttons and svg/pdf generation by anonymous and robots to prevent server impact of robots	[22:56]
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OTR	tiki 7.1: is it possible to only allow certain people/groups i guess see certain categories?	[23:40]
CIA-50	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36793 10/branches/7.x/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Changing oneself default group not effecting due to cache	[23:40]
OTR	what i mean is say i only want group a to be able to see category a because if group b knew category a existed they would want to know what was in it	[23:42]
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RobertPlummer	polom	[23:48]
nkoth	OTR there is a permission for that "Can view category in a listing or something to that effect"	[23:48]
OTR	googled this: assign permissions to categories in tikiwiki nothing relevant --- will keep searching with the new info thanx	[23:50]
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nkoth	doc.tiki.org/Permissions is a good place to start OTR	[23:51]
OTR	in there right now ;) Thanx a lot as i could've been all night trying to figure it out	[23:51]
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indro	hi all	[23:53]
OTR	evening	[23:54]
indro	anyone know why i get blank page as unauthorized user when i use a customize module that contains html (with the html plugin?)? it works when im logged in but when i logout the page is blank i only can login with tiki-login.php?user=&pass=	[23:55]
nkoth	indro, completely white page suggests some error	[23:56]
indro	hm can i see the error somewhere?	[23:56]
nkoth	when logged in as as admin see if you have any PHP or errors in the bottom left, alternatively set errors to show for everyone in the admin...general (while you are developing only, should always hide errors for uses normally)	[23:57]
indro	PHP (5.2.17) ERROR (E_USER_ERROR): File: lib/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php Line: 1093 Type: Smarty error: [in evaluated template line 3]: syntax error: unrecognized tag 'HTML' (Smarty_Compiler.class.php, line 590)	[23:58]
nkoth	uh right, you are cusomtizing a tpl file is it?	[23:58]
indro	but i see the html intepreted as admin. its a fb like button. nope i added a custom module with html.	[23:59]

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