[00:03] Trebly: oooh, hadn't noticed that option, but I wanted it. that's cool [00:03] nkoth|nelson: Yea not sure. [00:03] nkoth|nelson: Talking about sheets? [00:09] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r36930 10/trunk/lib/sheet/grid.js: [ENH] Put in some ground work for order, but not yet supported [00:11] *** changi has joined #tikiwiki [00:22] no, on any wiki page, you an highlight something and then a "Add Comment" tooltip appears [00:26] I don't think I added that. [00:26] Perhaps when I was sleep-coding ;) [00:30] *** jaysen has joined #tikiwiki [00:33] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [00:34] *** jaysen has quit IRC (Client Quit) [00:36] *** RobertPlummer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:40] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [01:03] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [01:11] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) [01:47] *** goj has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [01:47] *** goj_killedByISP has joined #tikiwiki [01:48] *** goj_killedByISP is now known as goj [02:11] *** OTR has joined #tikiwiki [02:13] *** Trebly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:37] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36931 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.object_link.php: [FIX] Blank freetags should not be returned as No title specified [03:30] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36932 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_addfreetag.php: [FIX] Proper perms checking [04:06] *** OTR has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [04:31] *** OTR has joined #tikiwiki [04:33] tiki 7.1: i am wanting to add a feature to my wiki which requires me to find something called tag (it is html). what file do i need? the feature is user voice. thanx [04:44] *** OTR has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [05:00] *** lindonb has quit IRC (Quit: lindonb) [05:19] *** kstingel has joined #tikiwiki [05:21] my understanding is that Tiki 8 is attempting to switch to a modular approach for each component of the page(s) ... has this been done yet for the TOC component? [05:24] is there any (automated) way to publish Tiki as an ePub? I see an option to print the Structure and an option for printing a page to PDF .... being able to build an ePub (instead of PDF) would be nice too [05:31] within the print -> Structure feature there seems to be a problem with the TOC ... I haven't narrowed it down yet, but will post here as I do [05:39] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r36933 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Plugin to Displays a simple button that toggles i.e. adds or removes a pre-specified relation. [05:47] *** nkoth|nelson has left [06:08] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [06:10] *** horky has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [06:12] *** horky has joined #tikiwiki [06:12] Hi. [06:13] I had a question... but I don't remember it... [06:37] *** arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:38] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [06:55] *** arildb has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [07:18] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:18] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:19] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [07:41] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [07:44] *** xavi has joined #tikiwiki [07:59] *** SJ-Jay has joined #tikiwiki [07:59] polom! :) [08:03] *** Merbster has joined #tikiwiki [08:04] how can we make trackers more easy to edit? [08:19] hi all [08:19] lol -> pretty tracker, input plugin [08:19] sorry you mean the tracker itself (admin side) or items (user side) [08:19] ? [08:21] *** lorinc has joined #tikiwiki [08:31] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [08:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [08:31] pooloom [08:32] molop [08:34] *** goj_killedByISP has joined #tikiwiki [08:34] *** goj has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [08:34] *** goj_killedByISP is now known as goj [08:43] does doc.t.o contain an area that lists the differences between hosting Tiki on Apache and ISS? [08:43] IIS* [08:49] Hi Merbster, perhaps a small page saying Apache, ok, IIS, try at your own risk. ;-) [08:50] chibaguy, I am adding my note to field type img page [08:50] oh [08:50] a new tracker field type? [08:50] Nope [08:50] a bug with img tracker field type [08:52] ah [08:52] about your question, there is a page http://doc.tiki.org/Windows+Server+Install [08:52] not specifically a comparison with apache [08:55] *** redflo has joined #tikiwiki [08:55] chibaguy, if you are curious, you can find a description and solution to the issue here: http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page_ref_id=3550 <- under "Note for IIS users" [08:59] hmmm [09:06] polom [09:07] chibaguy: I ned help from some html+css guru ;-) [09:07] s/ned/need [09:07] hi Merbster [09:07] hello xavi [09:07] chibaguy: do you have any site based on svn that you can svn up? [09:08] yesterday I added a few buttons to allow exporting & importing of banning rules by means of csv files [09:09] but both buttons look different: export is from a form, and import is just a {button} [09:09] xavi, make sure the button's either ID or Class is set to the same in your CSS [09:10] xavi, if {button} has class="cssclass1" and the from button has class="cssclass2" they won't be the same. [09:10] thnks Merbster, but I know I use to get lost in html + css minor things... [09:10] xavi, most major browsers has a CSS/HTML "debugger" in IE you can acess it by pressing f12 [09:11] then you can select the different elements on yrou page byu clicking on them, and it will land you in the HTML area where it's defined [09:11] and you can check the class or id properties [09:11] also inspict what CSS stuff is active etc. [09:11] ok, I'll have anotehr look [09:12] sorry guys, was afk washing dishes. :-) [09:12] xavi, is that trunk, or branch 7? [09:13] chibaguy: I just came from there :-) [09:13] "men with many talents" you said one day ;-) [09:13] trunk and tiki7 and proposals/6x [09:14] * xavi backported it [09:14] yes, though washing dishes just barely qualifies as a talent, I think. ;-) [09:14] talents are many many... even those small ones :-) [09:14] *** Tiki|bot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:14] Though the skill of seeing a broken glass before grabbing it is one I still need to develop, it seems. [09:15] :-D [09:15] only a minor cut, though. :-) [09:15] I can check my localhost svn [09:16] tiki-admin_banning.tpl [09:16] *** Tiki|bot has joined #tikiwiki [09:16] line 20: [09:16] [09:16] and line 22: [09:16] {button _text="{tr}Import as CSV{/tr}" href="#Import_rules_as_CSV"} [09:16] so as MErbster said, just adding a common css property there would do the trick? [09:16] * xavi checks [09:17] I am getting a couple of error using the latest trunk [09:18] Error: setCookie is not defined [09:18] Source: http://...my server.../tiki-admin.php [09:18] Line: 590 [09:18] ...from the html source... [09:18] ---- [09:18] setCookie("local_tz", local_tz); [09:18] $.service = function (controller, action, query) { [09:18] --- [09:18] sorry arildb, no idea [09:18] the other... [09:18] Error: $ is not defined [09:18] Source: http://...my server.../tiki-admin.php [09:18] Line: 690 [09:19] xavi: ok [09:19] Is it possible to define a "Edit tracker item template" or do I have to hack my way out of it by using a tracker item template that contains input boxes (instead of just showing the values) [09:21] Merbster: you can edit items with pretty trackers [09:21] but also with the same tracker form, if you provide the itemId=n at the url [09:22] xavi, Can you link me to somewhere that contains an example? [09:23] see the documentation for pretty trackers [09:23] xavi, that's what I am currently scouring through :P [09:24] and for simple edit tracker with the same tracker plugin, install (apply) the Bug_tracker profile, and play with it by giving the itemId at the url also [09:24] hth [09:24] btw, Merbster and chibaguy. I added class="button" to both lines but no effect, one (export as csv, the one from th form) is bigger than the other (button). Using fivealive theme [09:25] xavi, example; if I have a tracker item with text "Lorem Ipsum" and I edit that tracker item, will it fetch the values that are allready set, i.e. will it fetch "Lorem Ipsum" into the box where it was saved the last time someone edited this item? [09:25] xavi, finally trunk is svn-upped here. [09:25] Merbster: yes, of course [09:25] xavi, try using !important after the line [09:25] it will automatically amke your settings "The overruling one" [09:25] Merbster: can you tell me the exact syntax of which line? [09:25] allthough if you are not clever with your selectors it might change the whole site :) [09:26] I pasted both lines some mins. ago [09:26] xavi, the lines you pasted are the HTML not the CSS :P [09:27] that's why I asked for some "html+css" guru, didn't you read it? [09:30] xavi, Well. I am not exactly sure how you can add custom CSS without adding stuff directly to the theme file. [09:30] the theme css file that is [09:31] sorry, got to turn on Banning feature first. [09:41] *** Trebly has joined #tikiwiki [09:41] xavi, I don't see a class "button" on the Export button. [09:41] yes, I just tried locally [09:41] yesterday no class was added [09:42] [09:42] *** kstingel1 has joined #tikiwiki [09:42] I tried locally with this: [09:42] [09:42] [09:42] {button _text="{tr}Import as CSV{/tr}" href="#Import_rules_as_CSV" class="button"} [09:42] but no change [09:43] *** kstingel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [09:44] *** kstingel1 is now known as kstingel [09:44] *** kstingel has quit IRC (Client Quit) [09:46] *** Trebly has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:51] still puzzling over it. But this pattern can be seen in other fivealive "buttons". Submit and input instances are all bigger than span class="button" a. [09:51] yes [09:51] So yours fit the pattern, if that's any comfort. ;-) [09:51] :-) [09:51] I've seen this issue for years :-) [09:51] I have to start some rice cooking and then will come back and try to fix it. ;-) [09:52] thks. I'll be probably away by then (we start one week off today, and I'll be driving) [09:52] men with many talents... cooking rice just with one hand (the other is injured from washing broken glasses :-) ) [09:57] *** coaboa has joined #tikiwiki [09:58] polom tikiverse [10:04] hi coaboa [10:08] hi coaboa [10:26] *** rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [10:26] *** jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [10:42] xavi: please svn-up trunk/styles/layout/design.css . I made some changes there that seem to fix the input and .button size problem. [10:47] chibaguy: thanks, svn'ing up [10:47] What is the status of automated tests in TikiWiki? I have used the "simpletest" package to do such tests locally. If TikiWiki is already using a package/strategy, it would be best if I adopted that [10:54] bbl [11:00] hi chibaguy - i'll check too, thanks [11:00] hey, arildb - we have phpunit test (partially) [11:01] in lib/test [11:01] jonnyb: thanks [11:01] sadly they seem to be broken for me here :( [11:02] I will take a look [11:04] http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki+Unit+Testing is the one you want, there is also "TikiTesting" but i don't think that works (or ever did) [11:06] impressive: from 69 spamming comments in the last week in one tiki site, only 6 were repeating ip's, 63 unique ip's! [11:06] now, i'll see how many repeated from the 25 spamming comments in the last 3 days in anotehr tiki site (in another server, etc.) [11:08] the other site: 25 spamming comments, 3 from repeated ip, 22 unique ip's in this other site [11:14] ip isn't much use for stopping spammers i think [11:14] you'll end up banning huge blocks in the end [11:15] mmm, maybe yes... [11:15] but better than nothing [11:16] from the 85 unique ip adresses in both tiki sites (summing the unique ip addresses from the two of them) that received so much spaming in the last days... only 1 is common... [11:16] chibaguy: buttons are much closer now to inputs - padding or something still looks a little different though [11:16] well, I wonder how many hundreds of ip's they have for spamming... [11:18] yes, span.button>a has padding 1px 4px but input[type=submit] has 0 (just realising chibaguy is probably out walking his dog...) [11:18] chibaguy: failrly similar right now. Much better, thanks! [11:18] imho , for most sites where perfection is not needed [11:19] jonnyb, what's the best way to put both buttons (in admin banning) epoxrt & import in the same row? [11:19] i so wish our buttons didn't have a "pointless" span around them - would be so much easier to style consistently [11:19] with a table htere? [11:20] no - bu tthe whole page is a mess - needs tabs surely? [11:20] first walk, then run? [11:20] moving the button inside the form above would do it - a form is a block element [11:20] run away!! [11:20] ok, shall I do that myself? [11:21] (moving the button) [11:30] *** GillesM has joined #tikiwiki [11:30] *** RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki [11:30] back! [11:31] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [11:44] hi RobertPlummer [11:44] Good day sir. [11:45] O gotta say, this new tr function for javascript is AWESOME! [11:45] I haven't used it till now, and it has made my life so much easier. [11:45] new? [11:45] lol [11:45] new to me [11:45] I didn't know it existed honestly. [11:46] How long has it been around? [11:46] ah - cos i know rodrigo_sampaio wants to change it for something much more complicated... ;) [11:46] Since 6? [11:46] think so yes [11:46] Understandable, 7 was my real first adventure with tiki [11:46] Although I was introduced in 6. [11:46] jonnyb: :P [11:46] hi rodrigo_sampaio [11:46] hi jonnyb [11:47] I'm trying to pull all the loose ends together so we can really get a nice office system going on in tiki. [11:47] hi RobertPlummer [11:47] xavi: do you want me to work on the banning admin? if you are too i'll leave it alone (no time for conflicts) [11:47] xavi, good day [11:47] jonnyb: in case it helps, i touched an error related to banlib.php [11:48] jonnyb, I don't have time to work any more for today [11:48] * xavi driving in 45 mins, and still plenty of things to finish [11:48] ok, i'll give it an hour or two, then i also need to get to other stuff [11:48] error : Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiDb_Pdo::table() in /home/pangea/xavidp/public_html/tiki6/lib/ban/banlib.php on line 198 [11:49] ew - that's odd [11:49] ^after I edited a banId that I had introduced manually thought the tiki interface (not csv import) [11:50] re [11:50] ok, you're talking about the stuff you backported - roll it back please (it won't work, and no one should backport stuff that's not finished, it's not fair on the Qualioty Team) [11:50] jonnyb really does have a good point. [11:50] please please please don't backport bugs! [11:50] yes, I understand [11:50] it's nutty these slight differences in buttons and input submits and so on. [11:51] weird ay chibaguy - but thanks for trying! :) [11:51] I hope elements can get more standardized somehow. [11:52] I'll do my best to roll my changes back within the next days [11:53] I think we need a css reset too, in layout/design. One of the problems with input is that it was, apparently, using the browser default font family while .button was using the theme font family. [11:53] chibaguy: what would you think about removing the span.button surrounding {button}s? [11:53] and making them simply a.button? [11:54] sure. sounds good. [11:54] any tracker guru here? :) [11:55] why are they there in the first place? i seem to remember trying to challenge them when they arrived (v3 or 4 i think) [11:55] I don't remember off hand. [11:58] xavi, you're not supposed to get access to the PDO object directly [11:58] how are you accessing the database? [11:58] lphuberdeau: you are talking chinese to an end user, right now [11:58] hi lphuberdeau - it was code written for trunk backported untested into 6.x sadly [11:59] yes, my bad, I'll roll back [11:59] thanks xavi [11:59] I'm just asking questions based on the error I saw above [12:00] you should test before commiting in stable branches [12:01] "yes, my bad, I'll roll back" [12:02] Ah, jonnyb, I think one rationale for the anchor inside a span was for styling, to make a button background with one image, by positioning the image to the left on the span and the right on the anchor, you can get a nice graphic background. Of course that was before the border-radius days. [12:03] I'm not sure if that was the main reason or just a benefit. [12:03] no, that sounds right [12:04] it just made it all a bit klunky for everyone else imho - probably hard to change now... [12:05] hmm [12:06] jonnyb: I tried a test run. Had to patch a test case incllude to get it executing. However, the run fails with "'rm' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.". Assume it's because I am running Windows [12:07] I hope we can make basic change from time to time if we provide docs on updating theme details. [12:09] but I have a hard time finding the location of the "rm" command in the test files. Anybody here that knows? [12:09] ok, bye bye all [12:09] *** xavi has left [12:09] bye xavi [12:09] :) [12:18] arildb, there are quite a few under lib/test/core/Search [12:19] thanks [12:20] however, that should not affect patches [12:25] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:25] lphuberdeau: I found a few. However, I see that there is also Unix styled path seperators used. Seems like a big job to make these tests Windows compatible. So, I think I'll just add new test-cases if I need to run some tests [12:32] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [12:32] RobertPlummer: tks the html plugin update solve the bug ! [12:32] Bernard1: :) [12:33] Bernard1: Probably svn up'd in the middle of the update. [12:33] Bernard1: Sorry about that. [12:34] RobertPlummer: it's ok, no problem ! :D [12:40] re [12:43] arildb, as a check, what collation is your database using? [12:43] should be UTF-8 [12:44] that's the charset [12:45] the collation defines the sorting orders and comparison rules [12:46] Let me check [12:46] checking a few things... I find it strange that using mb helps, because the part that stores does not use it [12:48] says utf8 - default collation .... [12:49] Do you know where I can find what the default collation is? [12:50] found it.. it's utf8_general_ci [12:50] ok, that's good [12:51] I found a way to trick tiki into setting the permissions in a way that would get what you see [12:51] but it requires manually changing the parameters on the objectpermission page when setting the permissions [12:54] lphuberdeau: Were you able to duplicate the faults, I mentioned, on your side? [12:54] well, not through the user interface, but I can see how it happens [12:55] not really which code path leads to it [12:55] should we do a private chat? [12:56] patching the code [12:57] just because I don't see how it happens does not mean it's not potential corruption, only part I hate is that I need to code a migration for it [12:58] but from the doc page on php.net, I think it may be related to the locale anyway [13:01] not quite following you. I also don't exactly know what happens. Thelead me to the mb_ when I saw the tolower corruption. Tried the change and it worked. [13:02] yeah [13:02] but it needs to be handled consistently [13:02] and then the data of existing installs need to be updated to reflect the change [13:03] not sure if I can help out there. I have no overview. I don't think stored data will be affected, or? [13:05] well, if someone's permission are generated to a hash containing uppercase characters, reading it after the patch will hash using lowercase [13:06] polom [13:07] It did the lowercase conversion before too, it just failed to handle international characters. Guess it should be tested though. I did not notice any changes on my side after patching the code. [13:09] A test you can do is to setup a small PHP scriptlet to test the tolower functionality on Linux (assume you are using that). If this differs from Windows, the problem is a bit bigger, as the function is used 1000+ times. [13:10] arildb: did you solve your JavaScript errors? [13:14] chealer: Guess you mean the 2 errors I reported here on irc earlier. No, and I haven't looked any more into it. I was able to keep on using Tiki even with the errors [13:14] Let me donload the latest trunk and do a new check [13:17] arildb: yes. oh, good idea. check if Firebug's Net tab reports any HTTP error. [13:17] ok [13:23] chealer: still get the same errors [13:23] Firebug's Net panel reports several errors [13:24] I am not familier with the Net panel, but the firsst reported error is: GET jquery-ui.css [13:24] 500 Internal Server Error [13:25] anything you would like me to look for? [13:26] something in IIS must prevent that file from being read [13:26] I would check the error log [13:27] arildb: right. so start with that first one and try accessing the file directly [13:27] ("open in a new tab") [13:27] lphuberdeau: file? I don't think it has anything to do with that [13:28] you may see more details, but last time I did IIS didn't show [13:28] lphuberdeau: jquery-ui.css [13:28] *** shell has joined #tikiwiki [13:28] lphuberdeau: oops [13:28] arildb: jquery-ui.css [13:29] chealer: I notice that I only get this error on one of my installations. The one I have been "messing" the most with. Let me try to reset this installation and see if the error goes away [13:29] *** shell has quit IRC (Client Quit) [13:29] arildb: I think you'll have to check an IIS error log indeed to figure out why it happens (and I don't remember how to do that) [13:29] you may need to first enable logging [13:29] arildb: OK [13:29] bbl [13:30] chealer, let me take a look in the IIS log [13:32] arildb, have you enabeld remote error messages? because Internal Error 500 can be anything. [13:33] I will check the IIS log first, but suspect the error may be due to my "messing about" [13:33] arildb, my point it, it's alot easier finding out what's wrong when you get the actual error message instead of IIS' default "internal error 500" :P [13:34] *** rodrigo_sampaio1 has joined #tikiwiki [13:34] That's what Firebug reported in the list. I simply copied it [13:35] *** redflo has left [13:35] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:36] arildb, Another totally unrelated thing, if you are using trackers with image field types, check out the note in the bottom of this page regarding IIS users: http://doc.tiki.org/Image+Tracker+Field&structure=Documentation+TOC [13:38] I am not using that on the page [13:38] I will reset the installation and check again [13:49] arildb, nope. But IF you need images uploaded in one of your trackers, the images cannot be shown without you adding the fix described on the page I just linked you. ^^ [13:50] ok [13:51] 21<Merbster>21 [13:51] Merbster: Would this also apply if the files/images are stored in the database? [13:53] arildb, my guess is no, since a php file is involved and it can set the content type itself. The problem arises because the auto-generated filename of the image doesn't contain .jpg/whatever and that confuses IIS so it doesn't know how to handle it. [13:53] ok [13:53] arildb, but you can test it and tell me what happens :D [13:54] no time at the moment [13:56] anybody here who knows if it's possible to set the PHP session timeout in php.ini? [13:56] arildb, I don't expect stuff to happen instantly, don't worry ;) [13:56] arildb, it is. But I don't remember the setting for it. [14:09] arildb: you can set a minimum: http://www.php.net/manual/en/session.configuration.php#ini.session.gc-maxlifetime [14:10] thanks. found it [14:10] when using an item template for pluginTrackerlist is it possible to "get a hold" of the autogenerated links? or should I just hardcode a path to the "edit item" page in the template? [14:12] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [14:12] edit pages are not covered by anything automated [14:12] polom [14:13] lphuberdeau, I mean editiing of the tracker item, you can pass an url parameter to the trackerlist called itemId= and then Tiki will magically find out what the tracker item I want to edit is. and land me on a page with a tracker in edit mode (instead of insert mode) [14:13] and by edit mode I simply mean that the (otherwise normal) tracker is pre-filled with allready existing values [14:13] it's not the same page for edit and insert [14:15] lphuberdeau, url="tiki-index.php?page=skabelonAftaler&itemId= <- this is the url parameter as it looks on our trackerlist [14:16] sorry, I don't know details like that [14:17] lphuberdeau, thank you for trying anyways [14:19] I did a reinstall of the database + copied the trunk files. Still the same error. Found the cause for the jquery reports. The lib/web.config file had been copied in again. Once deleting it the jquery files worked again. The actual error report (I get it in Norwegian) said something about invalid configuration settings. So, it's a web.config problem [14:20] chealer: You asked me a couple of days ago to get more details on this (after I sent the mail to tiki-devel mailing list. This is another case of the web.config problems [14:21] arildb: no doubt [14:24] Similar problems for img/tiki/Tiki_WCG.png and iimg/icons/external_link.gif. Deleted the web.config in img and those errors disappeared [14:27] ...and for lang/en/language.js. Deleted web.config in lang, and the error goes away [14:27] lang/web.config is new on my "delete list". [14:29] It's pretty clear that the web.config files, which are intended to increase security on IIS, is causing problems. Unfortunately I am no expert on these file. BUT I do have a test machine. So, if anybody (chealer ?) want to assist in correcting these.... [14:31] arildb: unfortunately I'm not on Windows currently. the first thing I had to do was to get error messages. either you need to enable an error log, or to display error details as Merbster said. I don't remember how it's done, sorry, I just remember it wasn't as trivial as I thought. [14:31] *** conner_bw has joined #tikiwiki [14:32] chealer: I now have a setup (using the Net tab in Firebug) where I easily can identify the errors. So, testing web.config updates should be easy [14:33] we haven't had any issues with web.config files. [14:33] I will take a look into it. If anybody here feels competent, please feel free to join in [14:33] but we haven't touched them either [14:34] arildb: yes. BTW, which IIS version do you use? [14:34] 7.5 I believe [14:35] arildb: OK, that's what I test on. [14:57] in urgent need of a tracker expert! [14:58] How difficult would it be to make "View Tracker item" and "Edit allready exisiting tracker item" the same page? [14:58] that should be the same one [14:58] insert and edit is not the same [14:59] lphuberdeau, are you talking about pages or tracker items? [14:59] but the general answer to tracker UI is "very hard" [14:59] because I have noticed that there's an edit page and a view page for articles, wikis and so on. [15:00] Currently there's too many clicks invovled in editing a tracker item through the default tracker item editor (or whatever you'd call it) [15:02] lphuberdeau, I found out that if you specify a tracker item template in the trackerlist plugin it ignores the url parameter. [15:02] * lphuberdeau is not surprised [15:03] lphuberdeau, do you know if it's the expected behaviour or should this be my first bug I try to fix? [15:04] I think it's just different code paths, so the behavior now is what is supposed to happen, but probably not what should be happening [15:05] lphuberdeau, that's a too contradiciting statement for my brain to figure out what you mean, sorry ;) [15:09] *** libs has joined #tikiwiki [15:09] *** Jyhem_laptop has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:09] that probably has to do with the code in those areas is too contradicting for brains to figure out [15:11] Ok guys, lets keep it positive. [15:11] lphuberdeau, Do you mean that the behaviour is expected because it's just a code path problem. But the behaviour should be different. ? [15:12] RobertPlummer, ? [15:12] Just messing around. [15:13] i want to mess around too! [15:14] just saying it's probably closer to a missing feature than a bug [15:16] lphuberdeau, ok. let me rephrase the question; should I add it as a feature then? :P [15:16] But I htink I can figure out the answer then [15:16] I will just add it [15:17] *** SJ-Jay has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:18] *** Merbster has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [15:20] arildb: please check the permission issue after r36945 [15:24] *** lindonb has joined #tikiwiki [15:24] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:27] what does safe => true do in plugin params? [15:28] hi lindonb - that's a new one on me [15:29] hi jonnyb - it's used in the googlemap plugin for instance [15:30] hi lindonb. good question. I imagine it could ignore that param for plugin approval [15:31] yeah, that's a good guess [15:32] apparently nkoth would know [15:33] on second thought, plugin img doesn't have it and it doesn't need approval [15:34] also it's used on each param in googlemap [15:35] lindonb: exactly, see parserlib->plugin_fingerprint() [15:35] *** RobertPlummer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:36] lindonb: hum, good point, they're all declared as safe [15:37] and googlemap is not declared as needing approval, so I suppose they're useless [15:37] theoretically, I suppose using a plugin could represent a danger, whatever its arguments would be, but that must be rare. [15:42] *** arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:43] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [15:51] hmmm, can't see where safe is getting evaluated [15:52] i give up for now [15:53] lindonb: are you in parserlib? [15:53] yes [15:54] New Forum Posts: Was Tiki 7 a too big revamp? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=42172 [15:55] lindonb: are you looking at plugin_fingerprint()? [15:56] ah, i see [15:57] ah, it looks like nkoth has validate all set on googlemap when he started coding it ( http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/browser/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_googlemap.php?rev=25448#L17 ) [15:57] s/has/had [15:58] ok. fingerprint is for plugins needing approval? [16:00] *** conner_bw has quit IRC (Quit: conner_bw) [16:02] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Quit: Find new themes for Tiki at http://themes.tikiwiki.org.) [16:02] *** RobertPlummer has joined #tikiwiki [16:03] lindonb: that's why it exists, yes (those that don't need it will have a dummy one) [16:03] hi RobertPlummer [16:04] hi chealer [16:04] RobertPlummer: regarding http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/browser/trunk/lib/parser/parser_template.php?rev=36114 there's a syntax error on line 23. I don't know what that's supposed to read though. [16:04] chealer: so changing a safe parameter won't trigger a re-approval? [16:05] checking... [16:05] lindonb: indeed [16:05] *** arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:05] got it - thanks! [16:05] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [16:05] chealer: It is a template [16:05] so i can remove the safe params from googlemap it looks like? [16:05] chealer: That file is never needed in production, it is used in output [16:07] RobertPlummer: what do you mean (production vs output)? [16:08] lindonb: from looking at the code, I'm pretty sure that would make no functional difference indeed. [16:08] chealer: thanks! [16:08] jison_tiki.js creates a php file from that with a server side js, like node.js. [16:08] parser_template.php is used as a template to create WikiParser.php [16:10] RobertPlummer: jison_tiki.js creates a php file from parser_template.php ? [16:10] chealer: Yes, it is server side js [16:10] hum [16:11] chealer: The reason is because it works with Jison, which is server side js. [16:11] RobertPlummer: that's odd, parser_template.php says it's Jison-generated [16:11] parser_template.php is a file that I translated from jison js. [16:11] jison is all js based, I wrote a php translation of it. [16:12] we are leading the way in unified languages. [16:12]