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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37099 10/trunk/templates/comments.tpl: [ENH] Made sure codemirror could be turned on inside comments [00:12]
arildbchealer: Seems to work! ...just have to put it all together. Thanks [00:21]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37100 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_forum.tpl: [ENH] Added language of forum to forum view [00:26]
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arildbIs there an easy way to get the Tiki root URL? Need to build a full URL. Have the parts below Tiki root [00:44]
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chealerarildb: yeah...I knew that would be the tough part :-S
see http://www.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php (warning, not well documented)
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arildbchealer: :-)...hoping not. Anyway, the Zend client worked well...so a solution is well on the way.. [00:47]
chealerarildb: also see tiki-filter-base.php (not sure if that's available in the installer) [00:48]
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chealergood night [01:08]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37101 10/trunk/lang/nds/language.php: most of the countries [01:47]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37102 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ItemsList.php: [FIX] No bug because parameter irrelevant but anyway just to make sure in case function does something with it in future [02:43]
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tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37103 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] Add a way to preselect an items list field based on value in another field, especially useful with multi-page trackers [03:06]
nkoth|nelsonno
ignore that, wrong window :)
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coaboagood morning tikiverse [05:17]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r37104 10/trunk/lang/ja/language.php: [TRA] A few "happy path" strings, thanks to Lauren Mariko Cunningham-Lee. [06:32]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r37105 10/branches/7.x/lang/ja/language.php: [TRA] A few "happy path" strings, thanks to Lauren Mariko Cunningham-Lee. [06:50]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: How do I log in as another user - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42209 [08:54]
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fabriciuspolom
does anybody know, if Ican unzip a Tikifile/folder on a webhost via "FileZilla"? -> I have no SSH and no control Center access onthis host - my Ubuntu-included tool seems too small and I cannot compare the size with a referfencefolder
so I could gemerally unpack, but cannot check if all was done right
FileZilla might be a quicker and more reliable way
But I find no operation for unpacking a file
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Jyhempolom
fabricius: filezilla is just an ftp client. It sound reasonable that it can't unzip remotely. It would be remote-OS dependant (filezilla would need to launch the unzip from the remote OS)
Even if it pretends to unzip, it would have to download-unzip-upload
so you might as well unzip locally and upload the unzipped files.
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fabriciusOK thx.
My Ubuntu-included tool seems just to stop showing all the files - it kind of "hangs" at "tiki-galleries_rankings.php" ... but unzipping continues
I just watch the DSL connection - if it stays stable, unzipping should have been working after a few minutes
It is always a problem, when you want to help s.b. to do a first-time Tiki installation on a provider you do not know and you have limited access
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37106 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [FIX] Syntax error [09:52]
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37107 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [user:changi:FIX] Svn Properties
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37108 10/trunk/lib/validators/validator_passcode.php: [user:changi:FIX] Svn Properties
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fabricius*module visibility Tiki7-x:* I have a menumodule assigned to the header (Top) and cannot make it visible for non-loged-in visitors
module is assigned for Anonymous, Admin, Registered
meu items are assigned for Anonymous
when I am loged in I see the module
when I logout, the module disappears
any idea, what I make wrong?
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chibaguypolom [10:46]
fabriciuspolom
chibaguy:
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chibaguyhi fabricius [10:46]
fabriciuschibaguy: I have a problem with module visibility [10:47]
chibaguyoh
on my side, I'm wondering why there is a <br> tag at the bottom of wikitext. It adds a blank line when the page is included in another page, such as when used as a pretty tracker wiki tpl.
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fabricius^^ oh
chibaguy: you want to include a text snippet from one page to another one and get a <br> that you did not type in?
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chibaguyYes. I can have it not display by using CSS, but it seems unnecessary to me.
It isn't in tiki-show_page.tpl, so seems to come from the parser.
So is out of my reach ;-)
The situation is that i'm using a pretty tracker and trackerlist to show tracker items, and I don't want a <br> tag between each row as they display in the wiki page.
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chibaguyIt's easy enough to put everything in a div and add a div br display:none rule, but I was just wondering what the point of the br tag is, in general.
About your module problem?
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fabriciusthe point of the <br> tag: I do not know, sorry
my module problem:
in chrome I see, that the module_16 (just the number on my particular page) is found, but not visible for Anonymous - if not loged in, it has a height of 0px
when I login, it is shown well - as secondary site menu at the very top
module is assigned for An, Reg and Admin, 1 of for menu items is not assigned to any group (should be globally visible) and the other three is assigned to Anonymous (should be visible for all aswell
but the menu/module just will not appear
I tried different combinations of setting
the Top Bar module is configured the same way (same module, different menu Id, Top Bar section) and it shows up for everybody
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chibaguyhmm, that is strange. [11:06]
fabriciusyes [11:09]
chibaguyAre there any permissions on the menu items?
Or the objects the menu links to?
that anonymous doesn't have permission for?
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fabriciusthe objects the menus link to ... hmm
think that yes
mom, I'll check the categories
still not working
there is now at least a menu item, that links to Anonymous-allowed content
now all four links link to content, that is allowed for Ano, but still disappered
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chibaguyYou can see the menu and links in the page source, when viewing as anonymous? [11:19]
fabriciusmom, didn check that (I saw it in the webdev - "check item" in chrome - with width= 960, height=0)
yes, I find the module_16 in the source
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chibaguywhat if you assign the module a height in a custom css rule? [11:23]
fabriciusyou mean in admin -> look and feel? [11:23]
chibaguyyes
or in the module admin, as a "style" parameter.
probably in module admin would be easier.
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fabriciuswoohoo: admin -> look and feel => #module_16 {height: 40px;} and it works! - why that is necessary? [11:26]
chibaguyYay! I don't know. I have to go out for a while, probably will be back in an hour. [11:27]
fabriciusit works for Registered without that, but not for Anonymous?? [11:27]
chibaguyyeah, strange. [11:27]
fabriciuschibaguy: I have to head off aswell - need to see my boss
c ya later
thx for the hint
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chibaguyok
sure, you're welcome.
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37109 10/trunk/lang/ (51 files in 50 dirs):
tikiwiki: Consulted dictionary and Low German is the correct term,
tikiwiki: so I fixed it. If something went wrong, just revert this.
tikiwiki: Add some translations for "Low German" in several files.
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37110 10/trunk/img/flags/ (Low_Germany.gif Lower_German.gif): Just a rename
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kalibHi people. Is there a way to export/import users on tikiwiki? I'm moving to a new installation of tikiwiki on a different server. [13:44]
fabriciusyes there is
tiki-admin_users.php
or the admin menu
there you can export and import vis csv file
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kalibit will require the ziparchive class for php? [13:45]
fabriciuswhy?
afaik you just download the file and upload it to the new installation
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kalibok..thanks
I'll try it.
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fabriciusI did the same quick and dirty by exporting directly in the database
users, usergroups, userpermissions etc.
export sql and import sql
did work for me
but both methods you might have to try around a bit
sql: maybe double users and groups (like default admin) can cause problems and you have to edit/delete one or e few lines in the sql file before you import
csv: similar with certain fields like an Id field or so
example csv import export of menus:
you can export a menu, change settings of existing item and leave the Ids as they are, then reimport an have changed your existing menu quick and dirty
or you change all Ids to value zero "0" and have a copy of the same menu for reimporting to any Tiki
so for users you might to try and find out wich field or wich line you must interfere, but when you know that, it is a quick and easy job
cheers
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fabriciusInstallation: does anybody hav any experience with GoDaddy.com ?? I need the writing of the localhost for the Tiki local.php
anbody knows, how to adre localhost with GoDaddy?ess th
adress
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kalibfabricius, I'm on tiki-adminusers.php
but not finding the "export" option
alredy selected all the users...
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fabriciusmom, I'll check - wich Tiki version? [14:06]
kalibI can see the import buttom, but not the export
where can I check my version?
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fabriciusOh must go to my boss
will be back in a few minutes I hope
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kalibok [14:07]
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kalibAnyone knows how can I export / import my users on tikiwiki? [14:12]
coaboaunder admin groups [14:12]
kalibok.. I'm there right now..
And can't find any export option.
got it.
thanks
coaboa, wow.. to import they must already exist?
Each user in the file must already exist.
To create users or/and assign them to groups, got to admin->users
So.. I need to create all the users before import the csv file? o.O
and their passwords? will be lost, right?
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anyone?
it just doesn't work.
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chibaguykalib: I never did that before, but I assume the tiki users are created by the import process. They shouldn't have to be created first. That would make importing them redundant, right? [14:37]
kalibsure.
but that's the information that I received on import page..
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chibaguyI mean you can add users one at a time, so the import function should be just a mass creation of users, using a csv file.
well, I never tried, so don't really know.
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kalib"Each user in the file must already exist.
To create users or/and assign them to groups, got to admin->users""
The problem now is..
How to export users??
I just can't find the export users buttom.
I can only import.. but not export. That's the point?
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chibaguywhat about the other data in your old tiki installation? You don't need to move the pages, etc. over also?
My point is, you could recreate your old installation on the new server by importing the whole old database, including the users of course, and then update the installation.
The import users thing might not necessarily be to import Tiki users, maybe just a file of people.
Like a spreadsheet.
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kalibI'll try it..thanks. [14:47]
chibaguyI've done that a number of times with no problems except for images stored in the database, which didn't make the transfer intact.
(in some cases)
use phpmyadmin or similar to populate the database with a copy of the old database.
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kalibthanks. [14:55]
chealerpolom [14:58]
chibaguyhi chealer [15:00]
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fabriciuskalib: hey, still there?
sorry have been some few more minutes ;-)
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kalib: it is right, that you cannot export users in the tiki-adminusers.php - youshould do it via phpMyAdmin directly in the database [15:50]
kalibthanks ;] [15:51]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Module forums_last_posts in Tiki 7.1: How to display posts only from selected forums? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42210 [16:11]
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fabriciushi arildb [16:22]
arildbhi fabricius [16:23]
fabriciusit is hot here - summer seems to be back
Iget another ice ceam
cream
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arildbenjoy
fabricius: where are you located at?
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fabriciusGermany
between franfurt and Nuremberg
Frankfurt
you are from Norway?
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arildbI am a bit further north...and it's also "summer like" here. 14C and sunny
yes, Norway
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fabriciusnice [16:30]
arildbused to live in Frankfurt a couple of years..many years ago [16:30]
fabriciusah
I never have been in Norway
yet
have to go afk for some minutes
brb
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Jyhem_laptopfabricius: you can export users in tiki-admingroups.php I agree that tiki-adminusers.php would make much more sense [16:47]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37111 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-forums_last_posts.php: [FIX] Newest Forum Posts module: forumId parameter. "explode() expects parameter 2 to be string, array given", not working with lists and description. From r26172 [16:54]
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fabricius#rehi
Jyhem_laptop: thx
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r37112 10/trunk/templates/ (attachments.tpl tiki-page_bar.tpl): [FIX] disallow a user from attaching a new file to a wiki page or deleting an existing attached file if the page locked by someone else [17:51]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: upload image problem - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=42211 [17:52]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r37113 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/ (attachments.tpl tiki-page_bar.tpl): [FIX] [bp37112] disallow a user from attaching a new file to a wiki page or deleting an existing attached file if the page locked by someone else
tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37114 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [NEW] If installing on IIS show a notice about the (highly) recommended
tikiwiki: installation of URL Rewrite. The notice is only displayed in install step: 0
tikiwiki: when IIS is detected, and it indicates the URL Rewrite installation status.
tikiwiki: Thanks chealer
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luciashpolom
arildb: cool, good work
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arildbthanks [18:10]
chealerhi arildb [18:11]
arildbhi chealer [18:11]
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chealerarildb: looks like you did have some fun building that $checkURL in the end? ;-) [18:19]
arildbwell... [18:19]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37115 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-forums_last_posts.tpl: [FIX] Newest Forum Posts module: missing space in title between "by" and user when date and author are disabled (r30487 regression, oops) [19:09]
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37116 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ItemLink.php: [FIX] Not enough height to prevent scrolling when theme changed to larger font [19:17]
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nkoth|nelsonanyone knows if trunk admin trackers is still in a state of non working or is it supposed to be done already ? My changes not savning
js error, should I debug?
I think I wil wait till a couple of days...
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37117 10/trunk/tiki-admin.php: Wiki attachment admin panel is findable via Wiki admin panel, and Plugin Alias is now in Text Area [21:21]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37118 10/trunk/lib/init/initlib.php:
tikiwiki: [NEW] Completes to r37114: URL Rewrite checking during installation on IIS.
tikiwiki: Notice only shown when URL Rewrite is "detected" as missing.
tikiwiki: Displayed text is changed. Links to "Windows Server Install" on tiki.org for more info.
tikiwiki: Translation calls added.
tikiwiki: Some style fixes.
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coaboagood night [22:14]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37119 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_look.tpl: Moving Site logo & title prefs to the top of the page because it's often used [22:15]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37120 10/trunk/templates/admin/include_security.tpl: For some users, security means permissions so adding a few relevant links in the admin panel
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37121 10/trunk/templates/admin/ (include_community.tpl include_login.tpl): Adding permission link to help new users in thinking of user/group/perm
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37122 10/trunk/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: Adding links to admin user and groups to the permissions admin panel
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tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37123 10/trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: Ading a link to manage permissions [22:38]
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fabriciushmm somebody there with installation experience?
Base table or view not found: 1146 Table 'foldername.tiki_preferences' doesn't exist in /home/content/30/XXXXXXXXX/html/foldername/BRANCH-7-x/lib/core/TikiDb/Pdo.php on line 74
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arildbchealer: Are you here? [22:50]
chealerarildb: yes
hi lindonb
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37124 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-quickadmin.tpl: Adding relevant links to Qucik Admin module [22:52]
lindonbchealer: hi chealer [22:52]
chealerfabricius: where are you installing?
lindonb: it may be that intl is bundled with PHP but disabled by default
in Debian it's not available by default, it's packaged in php5-intl
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lindonboh, okay [22:54]
arildbchealer: Thanks for your comments on my latest commit. I didn't know initlib.php was included "everywhere. Maybe installib.php would be a better place for the functions. However I see that it is a "database" class. Does that matter, or is installlib the most suited place? [22:54]
chealerlindonb: thanks for the detailed answer... that seems a complex topic [22:54]
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lindonbchealer: yes, thought it was worth explaining
chealer: i guess if intl is off by default then it's not a good idea to use it in tiki?
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chealerlindonb: it's clear that intl won't work in the short term, (needs at the very least PHP 5.2.4), unfortunately
there is interesting stuff in intl. maybe ICU is not standard on Windows and that's delaying its use
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lindonbyes, i thought it could be useful for many things [22:57]
chealerlindonb: well, it couldn't be relied on, would need a fallback :-( [22:57]
lindonbyep :( [22:58]
chealerlindonb: I don't even know the relevant features, so I don't know what should be done for now.
lindonb: if nobody else comments, and you want to do something short term, go with what you think is best
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lindonbchealer, is there a license issue with money_format? [23:01]
chealerlindonb: a minimum could be to link to your message in a comment in money_format if we can't take a decision now. [23:02]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r37125 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: Let's try to make this Quickperms feature work and move it from experimental to always on. If it's still not reassuring at release time, we'll turn off [23:04]
fabriciuschealer, sry - missed your reply
godaddy.com Arizona
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chealerlindonb: I don't know. it's generally not good to use code without a written license, but I haven't checked if the code used was significant and how much of it was left. the issue that made me bring up the topic was really the fact it was unused. the licensing issue wouldn't be serious anyway.
fabricius: could you describe the problem?
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fabriciusI want to start tiki-install.php and get error messages - they are visible above and under the installer login area and I connot login
(databasevredentials)
credentials
chealer: I got the localhost adress now, but do not know, if godaddy needs to change seversettings, if I have to add a handler to the htaccess or to the local.php
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lindonbchealer: then I'll try to restore money_format and will see what I can find out about licensing [23:09]
chealerarildb: installlib is just database stuff but I think that's just because nothing else was needed for now. don't worry, it can be moved later if it's a problem. I'd say it's the most suited place. [23:12]
arildbchealer: ok [23:12]
chealerarildb: no problem. generally lib/init/ is used everywhere [23:13]
arildbchealer: ok. Btw. I checked the IIS config files in C:WindowsSystem32inetsrvconfigapplicationHost.config. When the URL Rewrite module is uninstalled, the rewrite tag is removed from the schema, and thus it becomes invalild [23:15]
chealerlindonb: OK. for licensing, it's always subjective :-/ copying one line is not a problem, copying a function of 100 lines is. the limit is somewhere in between, depending on how creative the code is, etc... [23:15]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37126 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php:
tikiwiki: [NEW] Add a way to autosavefields but with the constraint that the new value is
tikiwiki: saved only if it is greater than the current value. Really useful in multipage
tikiwiki: trackers to keep tracker of how many stages a user has completed
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chealerlindonb: in this case it's particularly minor as the code was posted on a public website with the intention to help others. it's unlikely that the author sues. [23:16]
arildbchealer: another issue regarding SEFURL, the following seems to be needed to allow the '+' in a URL /myserver/My+Page+Test. <system.webServer>
<security>
<requestFiltering allowDoubleEscaping="True"/>
</security> . It's missing from web.config today. It may need to be defined globally. I am checking around a little.
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chealerarildb: yeah, hence the errors... makes sense. BTW, do you mean the module is installed by default?
(you say "uninstalled")
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arildbchealer: No. Installing the module add the "rewrite" tag
chealer: The "rewrite" tag in the schema follows the install state of the URL Rewrite module
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chealerarildb: so it's not installed by default then? [23:19]
arildbno [23:20]
chealerarildb: yeah, but I wondered if your phrasing implied it was enabled by default
arildb: OK, but that's strange, I can't remember having to enable that module
it *was* over a year ago, though :-S
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arildbchealer: I am using Windows 7 enterprise (thus not a windows server). Maybe it's different on a server machine [23:21]
chealerfabricius: I don't see why Tiki would try accessing tiki_preferences at installer step 0. I'd need a "backtrace" leading to that error to tell :-( [23:22]
fabriciuschealer: ah ok
what info you need?
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lindonbchealer: thanks. sounds gray. it was a long function. I changed things but it wasn't a rewrite. But I agree anyone posting help code would unlikely be concerned as you say. [23:23]
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chealerarildb: I didn't use it on server machines neither. I must have used it on Windows Vista Ultimate IIRC and now I'm on Windows 7, perhaps Home Premium
lindonb: all right, let's leave that alone for now
thanks
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37127 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Changes to r37114/r37118. Moved functions to installlib, since initlib is included each request [23:26]
chealerfabricius: there's an error in PDO, but I wonder what query the installer issued. you'd have to go back to where the call comes from or check the query string :-/ [23:27]
fabriciuschealer: How I can do that? Only thig I was doing was typing in domain/tiki-install.php [23:28]
chealerthank you arildb! [23:29]
arildbchealer: I also had to install the URL Rewrite modules on the Windows Server machines we are using. So, the module does not seem to be standard windows installations (anymore) [23:29]
fabriciusI had issues on other servers before - I could call the support - but what question to ask?
maybe I have to force pdo in the local.php?
[23:29]
chealerfabricius: it would be easy with xdebug but as you must not have that, you'd need to insert some debug statements :-(
fabricius: I don't think so, it's already using PDO according to your message
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fabriciusah ok
where can I get xdebug?
is there a debug tool for firefox available or for chrome - just want to get an imagination what you r talking about
but I will understand it :-D
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chealerarildb: I packaged Tiki for Web PI last summer under Windows 7 and didn't notice I had a problem with web.config files. I might have enabled a modules but I really don't remember installing one. anyway, I'll check when I go to Windows.
fabricius: no it's a PHP debugging extension, you'd need server access to install. on Debian it's packaged in php5-xdebug.
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fabriciusah chealer - I have it on my computer, but I would need it on the server
chealer: maybe the godaddies have such aswell
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chealerfabricius: well yeah, I don't suppose you would succeed to reproduce that error locally :-/ [23:35]
fabriciuslocally I got Tiki working without hussle [23:35]
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fabriciusIhave to find out wich configurations I need for the project on godaddy specifically
kind of a customer's provider
So chealer you need to know where the call comes from?
on two different configured 1and1 managed servers (both german) the support figured out a handler for each config to activate in the .htaccess
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chealerfabricius: yeah, why is Tiki trying to access tiki_preferences.
at installer step 0...
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fabriciuschealer: was looking similar [23:39]
chealerbbl [23:40]
fabriciusOk, I call to America and ask them - they offer a german landline number, what I find kind of very good ;-) [23:40]
RobertPlummerchealer: regard to information about yesterday with javascript included files in plugins... I updated the documentation here http://dev.tiki.org/Including+JavaScript so that it explains further the concept behind it all. [23:43]
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