#tikiwiki 2011-09-14,Wed

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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37238 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Immediately show Pay Now if preventdoublerequest is on and is for currentuser, since the user do not have any choice but to pay anyway	[02:01]
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	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37239 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Previous way of removing expired user from group really unclean, missing out related processing.	[02:18]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37242 10/trunk/customsearch_ajax.php: [FIX] Allow setting of languages from multiselect as well	[03:59]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37244 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Refresh tracker item in search index when categories change due to trackersync groups	[04:59]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37245 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/ContentSource/ForumPostSource.php: [FIX][NEW} Index forum post language based of forum language just added	[05:12]
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Merbster	Polom to you all	[06:45]
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svdasein	I think something has gone wrong with this page: http://doc.tiki.org/Features most of the content is gone just a heads up	[07:23]
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Merbster	svdasein, looks normal here	[07:48]
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Merbster	svdasein, I think the people responsible for hosting tikiwiki is currently doing some server maintenance.	[07:48]
svdasein	Merbster: look at the feature list - no records found ok just wanted to be sure you knew about it	[07:49]
Merbster	lol	[07:49]
svdasein	I was on this page the other day - it was a very long list of features	[07:49]
Merbster	ok svdasein I see what you mean :P svdasein, It will probably be fixed are you looking for something specific?	[07:49]
GillesM	hel	[07:50]
svdasein	I'm putting together some stuff to impress a client :) I wanted to be able to point to the feature list	[07:51]
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Merbster	svdasein, ah ok.	[07:53]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37246 10/trunk/lang/fr/ (language.js language.php): [TRA] more French translations	[08:58]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: plugin articles - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=15&comments_parentId=42235	[09:28]
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Trebly	<Everybody> About wysiwyg : do you think that if we want to use plugins we need to wait the 8.0 stable ? For the moment as the conversion from FKeditor to wiki is not full bijective it seems that the best is for exploitation to use the original wiki editor. I have too problems with sites wiki redacted in WYSIWIG with fckeditor (not FK) in html or html with option with wiki syntax interpreter (some plugins). It seems that I need to convert the WYSIWYG (old 6.1) to wiki documents (switch editor) document by document and check the display result. What is your advice ?	[10:38]
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Merbster	Trebly, I don't really understand your issue	[10:54]
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Merbster	jonnyb, I am having difficulty checking if a jquery selector is returned what I want, do you have a nice tip as to what I should write in the log so I don't just get "object" ?	[11:30]
jonnyb	hi Merbster - use the javascript console (in firebug etc) to see what's coming back?	[11:31]
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Merbster	jonnyb, ok.	[11:33]
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coaboa\|afk	polom tikiverse	[12:06]
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jonnyb	hey coaboa - polom also!	[12:06]
coaboa	hi jonny	[12:07]
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SJ-Jay	polom guys	[12:09]
ricks99	polom all	[12:10]
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SJ-Jay	ricks99, can i make a "spreadsheet" of trackers? :)	[12:10]
RobertPlummer	polom ricks99	[12:11]
ricks99	i think theres a way in trunk... saw some commits previously about linking trackers and spreadsheets	[12:11]
RobertPlummer	SJ-Jay: Yes you can.	[12:11]
ricks99	or do you simply want to display tracker info in a grid (can use pretty tracker)	[12:11]
SJ-Jay	RobertPlummer, that's the answer i was looking for :P yeah	[12:11]
ricks99	hiya RobertPlummer	[12:11]
RobertPlummer	SJ-Jay: Create a new spreadsheet.	[12:11]
SJ-Jay	tracker info in a grid!	[12:11]
RobertPlummer	Then click the "+" in the bottom right. the tab, and follow the rest. It is a new feature, so bugs may be found, but please use it, lets get it buttoned up for 8.	[12:12]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Login not working - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=42236	[12:13]
ricks99	@RobertPlummer: is that in 7 or 8?	[12:13]
RobertPlummer	8	[12:13]
SJ-Jay	damn.. gotta go soon.. meeting i 1 hour oh but RobertPlummer we are not using tiki 8 yet.. i will try it when released though! but ricks99 tell me more about trackers in a grid	[12:13]
RobertPlummer	ricks99: I started adding it in 7, but it wasn't mature enough.	[12:14]
SJ-Jay	that is actually what i'm looking for	[12:14]
ricks99	@SJ-Jay, if all you want is to display the trackerlist in a customized l&f, can use pretty tracker to design the layout	[12:14]
SJ-Jay	like a sheet?	[12:15]
ricks99	you can design the l&f any way you want	[12:15]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37247 10/trunk/lang/nds/language.php: tikiwiki: [TRA] start to mark translation only commits tikiwiki: add a string to nds because "is is not a number" is probably a typo	[12:27]
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philback	polom	[12:51]
Merbster	polom philback	[12:51]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37248 10/trunk/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: [FIX]most read topics: fix title and filter forumId tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37249 10/branches/7.x/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: [bp/r 37248][FIX]most read topics: fix title and filter forumId	[12:59]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37250 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lib/rankings/ranklib.php: [bp/r 37248][FIX]most read topics: fix title and filter forumId	[13:03]
Trebly	<Merbster>Hi, first, I am not end user but I develop and implements particular applications. Last year I have treated 14th enhancements or bugs but I should stop before I could commit. It seems tht most of enhancement remains accurate for 8.x. The issue is that the text created with Wisiwig 6.1, appears with 7.1 in the WYSIWIG FkEditor as html treated as text. I could not find other solution than Convert to HTML plugin (plugtin validation don't functions), convert back (change editor to wiki) to Wiki Source and then cut the "hTML" wiki plugin tags. Then I got back quite the original text, I have just to check. I follow the tiki-dev and I notice and participate (a little) to the WYSIWYG threads. My question was in this context : the plugins are not completely hold in FkEditor and the bijective relation with Wiki-syntax is not ended. Sorry for the length by I couled not find a shorter way to tell this. I will send on [tiki-dev].	[13:06]
Merbster	Trebly, I am at a loss there mate :P I haven't touched any of that sorry	[13:07]
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fabricius	Tebly -> for the WYSIWYG issue: jonny made some fixes on that - if you have the same problem, that I mentoned to jonnyb, pls try Tiki7.x branches and you are fine Trebly: Jonny did make preferences,until the problem might fixed more detailed for Tiki8 so two tick-boxes might benecessary to be ticked in 7.x - one for articles and one for Wiki	[13:09]
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coaboa	somewhat off topic: does one know if there is an extension for IE (9) similr to FF's "inspect element"?	[13:27]
ricks99	@coaboa: Use the IE dev tools (F12)	[13:28]
coaboa	thx	[13:28]
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chealer	polom	[13:29]
coaboa	hi chealer	[13:30]
chealer	hi coaboa	[13:30]
coaboa	ricks99: I feel quite stupid not knowing this F12 button ;-)	[13:35]
ricks99	ricks99 likes IE... but don't tell anyone	[13:35]
Merbster	IE 9 is acceptable but the debugging console stills needs some work i.e. no interaction with the page - what so ever, when you pasued JS execution for example Also writing DOM elements to the log and clicking them in FF sends you to the HTML element. IE doesn't support this either	[13:35]
sylvieg	thre is no edit per section if the page is wysiwyg - is it a bug or a feature?	[13:44]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37251 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/ (tiki-connect.js tiki-jquery.js): tikiwiki: [REF] connect: switch showBusy() use over to use "modal" for non-modal busy tikiwiki: spinner display. Now only use of showBusy is in the customsearch plugin which tikiwiki: needs refactoring so showBusy can be removed cleanly. Also, don't use a text tikiwiki: message for object_selector loading as it doesn't display well (and doesn't need tikiwiki: one)	[13:46]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37252 10/trunk/styles/layout/design.css: tikiwiki: [FIX] modal: Remove arbitrary "dialog" size for non-modal use so the spinner and tikiwiki: message are positioned correctly over the object, also reduce astronomical tikiwiki: z-index so it appears behind jQuery-ui dialogs (even though the spinner graphic tikiwiki: stubbornly stays on top still)	[13:50]
nkoth\|nelson	jonnybradley: good day, I see finally positioning right?	[13:51]
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nkoth\|nelson	the spinner still stubbornly is higher ? lol	[13:54]
jonnyb	hi nkoth\|nelson - should be (seems ok for me now)	[13:54]
nkoth\|nelson	no, it's ok now I suppose by on top you mean above) well, over	[13:54]
jonnyb	yes, think it's because of the absolute position (yes, seem to have infinite z-index)	[13:55]
luciash	polom polom	[13:55]
jonnyb	can you refactor the showBusy uses in the customsearch? i don't understand why it's even in there (don't have a test set up here yet) molop luciash	[13:55]
nkoth\|nelson	let me check jonnyb, ok so basically it should just be removed,	[13:56]
luciash	hi jonnyb, thx for add me to ur g+ circles ricks99: u2 ;)	[13:57]
jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson: thought so, but can't check easily	[13:57]
nkoth\|nelson	I'll do it	[13:57]
luciash	hi nelson	[13:57]
jonnyb	yes, g+ seems to be only Tiki people for me so far! :)	[13:57]
luciash	:)	[13:58]
ricks99	ricks99 wishes there was a way to use G+ from Tweetdeck.... i want a single* client app*	[13:58]
luciash	ricks99: ask Tweetdeck devs ;)	[13:58]
ricks99	me and 100s of others have :-)	[13:59]
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Trebly	<babricius> Hi, I had an exchange here ten days ago with jonny about this and I have upgraded 7.1 to 7.x. for this site with content in development (I have too a 7.x for test) So it is with the last 7.x (one week ago that I got the display of articles written with FkEditor in 6.1 in html shown as text. And the lonely way I found (at this time - used half an hour) has been : cut -> edit with FkEditor -> use pluging HTML -> copy (the cut html) -> try to validate the plugin : failed = the validation don't operates and the edit shows "plugin html not validated" ->... ...change edit mode = tiki-syntax = I got the {html} tiki plugin tag --> clean to tiki-syntax -> got a good text. END. Again sorry for the length.	[14:01]
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luciash	babricius :) hi Trebly	[14:01]
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luciash	Trebly: when you start writing a nick and press the tab key in your IRC client, it doesn't expand and fill the rest of the matching nick for you ?	[14:04]
Trebly	<liciash> Hi, I don't know why my "tab" of ChatZilla don't repeat the correspondent name	[14:04]
luciash	ah, hmm so when you write "lu" and hit the tab key, no luck ? (me didn't use chatzilla for ages but he thinks it is a basic "standard" functionality)	[14:05]
Trebly	<Luciash> No no luck, It is a basic but it doesn't functions. More as I am a little typing-dyslexic : I see right (my mind) not what is written truly. It is between thirty seconds and one minute later that I am able to see the mistyping, generally the message is sent...	[14:12]
luciash	Trebly: no problem, i know that feeling... i just thought it would help you. maybe this helps ? → http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/#complete	[14:16]
ricks99	any xperts with Tiki Quiz feature online this morning? looking for a way (module/plugin?) to embed a quiz within a tiki wiki page	[14:18]
luciash	Trebly: weird is that everywhere it is entioned Chatzilla does that as well: http://oreilly.com/pub/h/1949	[14:19]
fabricius	any xperts for "sending and recieving articles" online this afternoon? :-D	[14:19]
luciash	ricks99: THERE MUST BE SOME oops :)	[14:20]
ricks99	<sheesh> ;-)	[14:20]
luciash	ricks99: i mean some plugin or module	[14:21]
fabricius	caps lock?	[14:21]
luciash	fabricius: yup :)	[14:21]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37253 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_customsearch.php: [REF] Make use of modal instead of showBusy and add more explanation of the options available	[14:21]
ricks99	luciash: then i must be blind... i can't find it (using tiki 6LTS)	[14:21]
fabricius	ricks99: perhabs the same way, as you can include articles into a wikipage via a DIV?	[14:22]
ricks99	fabricius: i'm not sure i understand?	[14:22]
luciash	luciash neither	[14:22]
ricks99	i have a wiki page that i want to embed a quiz (instead of linking to a different quiz page) the only modules i see ar "last created quiz" and "top quiz"	[14:23]
luciash	right	[14:24]
fabricius	a while ago I had to show articles on a wiki page - not the list plugin or so, but in a div, where the whole article title and picture and teaser was shown in a column	[14:25]
luciash	ricks99: can it be that u need to create custom user module ?	[14:25]
ricks99	guess I can hack and embed the tiki-take_quiz.php somehow	[14:25]
Trebly	<jonnyb> Hi, do you agree that tho hold in WYSIWYG plugins which display data from db, there no other way than the PLUGIN for (fk) become a js function into an onload and ajax request fo'r a corresponding id (a div, nothing else available in my knowledge) ?	[14:26]
ricks99	luciash: yeah, you're probably right...... :-(	[14:26]
fabricius	I do not remember exactly, but I thought it was quite simple to include in a div	[14:26]
ricks99	yes, i can easily add a DIV, but i need all the php logic to display the quiz, take the quiz, and show results	[14:27]
Merbster	argh! finally got it working!	[14:27]
jonnyb	Trebly: not sure i follow but wysiwyg uses ajax to render the plugins appearance, yes	[14:27]
ricks99	fabricius: i want to embed the quiz (similar to the POLL plugin) -- more than a simple DIV	[14:28]
fabricius	does anybody know, how to send/recieve articles between tiki sites? I get the error: The requested URL /tiki/commxmlrpc.php was not found on this server.	[14:28]
luciash	fabricius: u need that file	[14:29]
fabricius	ricks99: I'll think about it and come back, if I have an idea - no quick solution from me for now, sorry	[14:29]
ricks99	"not found" means you're missing the file	[14:29]
luciash	fabricius: i fear it was "kiled" if it is not in your Tiki anymore	[14:29]
fabricius	luciash: where I get that file?	[14:29]
luciash	in Tiki tarball	[14:30]
fabricius	where is that?	[14:30]
ricks99	tiki.org/download	[14:30]
luciash	in the zip you downloaded	[14:30]
fabricius	and why we have tiki send/recieve function, when the basic file is kicked?	[14:30]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37254 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_customsearch.php: [DOC] better parameter information	[14:30]
luciash	iirc it was there once in some older versions luciash didn't know it was kicked	[14:30]
ricks99	the file is in 7.1 and 6.4	[14:31]
fabricius	so it is still in the download, but in a different folder?	[14:31]
luciash	fabricius: most probably it wasn't just copied to your server	[14:31]
ricks99	no, it is in the <tiki home> folder	[14:31]
fabricius	the recieving page is a 6.4 and the sending a 7.x branch	[14:31]
luciash	fabricius: check twice	[14:31]
fabricius	generally: I have an article on the sending site, articles function activated on both and xmlrpc API activated on both do I need more or just to find the file and move it somewhere else?	[14:32]
luciash	ricks99: seems in the list of plugins there is only the miniquiz	[14:33]
ricks99	luciash: yeah, i saw that too -- doesn't work for my needs	[14:33]
luciash	find the file in your Tiki zip and send it to your server via FTP	[14:33]
ricks99	fabricius: ur tiki install is missing files.	[14:33]
Merbster	apparantly jQuery is very, very picky on the select strings.	[14:33]
ricks99	luciash: think i'm going to have to write a new plugin	[14:34]
luciash	ricks99: cool ! ricks99: :)	[14:34]
ricks99	lol... u say that now... wait until u see my spagetti code	[14:35]
fabricius	ricks99 luciash I have the file positively in the root of the recieving site	[14:35]
luciash	ricks99: lol	[14:35]
ricks99	fabricius: is it in the sending site? (since that is the site generating the error)	[14:35]
fabricius	so ricks99 you will "cook" a plugin? ricks99 luciash - just checked - BOTH sites have the file in the root (sending 7.x and recieving 6.4)	[14:36]
ricks99	if the file is in /tiki/commxmlrpc.php then i dont understand the 'file not found' error?	[14:38]
fabricius	so maybe I missed s.th on configuration of the Tikisites me either	[14:38]
luciash	the /tiki is not the root imho root is the /	[14:39]
fabricius	ohhh but there is actually not a folder /tiki/ in the root	[14:39]
luciash	that must be the problem	[14:40]
ricks99	there u go then. reading the error always help ;-)	[14:40]
luciash	i mean it is a bug if tiki thinks so or misconfigurtion ?	[14:40]
fabricius	So I setup the folder /tiki, move the file and try again	[14:40]
luciash	it is a workaround which might not work but give it a try it shouldn't be so though	[14:41]
ricks99	check your configuration.... not sure why some files are looking for ../tiki/.. directory	[14:41]
fabricius	something happened now mom	[14:43]
luciash	that is probably the result of trying a workaround ;)	[14:44]
fabricius	see here: http://pastebin.com/pLVXWim4 I cannot find a recieved article on the other site	[14:47]
Trebly	<jonnyb>in HTML if we ha a div with a coded id and an onload which calls a js with the plugin parameters we could get by with ajax the content of the div to display. So Fk could have a toggling mode "insert - not_insert" "data-plugins". I will read your answer but I have a job late (I go back to Paris tomorrow morning, since six month I was in Sologne in the center of France, I must be ready... ...to start) and I will go back to this subject later.	[14:49]
fabricius	luciash ricks99 isn't there a preference /send/recieve objects somewhere - Or do I miss that and it is just a permission?	[14:51]
ricks99	fabricius: sorry, don't have any experience with sendingobjects	[14:52]
fabricius	hmm	[14:53]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37255 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/resource.wiki.php: [FIX] Consecutive runs of template in pretty trackers in same sequence will take from cache (wrong) unless force_compile which is the slower option	[14:58]
fabricius	I do not find anything in the forums I have this eror now: Fehler: 2-Invalid return payload: enable debugging to examine incoming payload	[14:59]
Merbster	is it possible to add an extra url-param to the url in a form's action attribute via. js/jquery ? in my case I wan't to set itemId on the "Save tracker item" button	[15:07]
luciash	Merbster: url param with &itemId should be enough in the tracker plugin	[15:11]
Merbster	luciash, Under normal circumstances yes.	[15:12]
luciash	no need for js/jquery imho ok, what is your use case ?	[15:12]
Merbster	I am prefilling the tracker with JS. And I want to "hack" the save button so that the itemId is automagically resolved from some data I fetch trhough JS and some gets	[15:13]
ricks99	woo-hoo, rick has the framework for a quiz plugin... It is uber-ugly, but mostly works ;)	[15:13]
luciash	ricks99: congrats	[15:13]
Merbster	Merbster congratulates ricks99	[15:13]
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Merbster	RobertPlummer, I take it that your trackerquery lib can't filter items on category ? category ID to be precise	[15:15]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: I have not built that functionality into it, but it could easily be extended to do so.	[15:15]
Merbster	luciash, so I can get the data I need. I was just wondering how I append stuff ot HTML atributes instead of overwriting them ;)	[15:15]
luciash	Merbster: ok, just use jquery .attr and add the itemId param	[15:16]
Merbster	luciash, so I can do something like $('#editItemForm1').attr(' argh! $('#editItemForm1').attr('action') + "&itemId=123"; RobertPlummer, Ok. I might take that upon me. Because I need it.	[15:16]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: Sounds good.	[15:18]
luciash	var foo = $('#bla').attr('action'); $('#bla').attr('action', foo + '&itemId=123');	[15:19]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: Actually the whole reason I started on the tracker query was because I couldn't filter by date created/moded.	[15:19]
luciash	Merbster: ^	[15:19]
RobertPlummer	But at that time it was just a simple query outside of tiki.	[15:19]
Merbster	luciash, ok. Makes sense. That would be my next guess :) RobertPlummer, I think it's a brilliant idea. I will be using it alot and that's whY I want to help improve it.	[15:20]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: Yea, it comes in handy.	[15:24]
fabricius	luciash ricks99 - I can send and receive wiki pages! but sending articles causes this error message: 2-Invalid return payload: enable debugging to examine incoming payload	[15:24]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: If you want to clean up the documentation comments on the functions that is something I'd like to get around to. Also, I'd like to move to a more cleaner "api"	[15:24]
fabricius	luciash ricks99 any idea?	[15:25]
Merbster	RobertPlummer, I can try. But I still haven't figured out ALL the code and it's paths :P	[15:25]
fabricius	luciash ricks99 - whom to ask or where to dig?	[15:25]
RobertPlummer	I want to make it like: TrackerQueryLib::trackerName("Tracker Name") ->dateStart("1/1/1/") ->dateEnd("2/2/2") ->query(); Merbster: ^	[15:26]
ricks99	fabricius: not sure. check the file and see who updated it last?	[15:27]
Merbster	RobertPlummer, So instead of managing that huge list of params, you want something clean?	[15:28]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: The cleaner the better.	[15:28]
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fabricius	ricks99: smart idea! changi did - I might have to ask him	[15:31]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37256 10/trunk/lib/objectlib.php: [REF] ObjectLib: Do not alter object names and descriptions when storing in database tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37257 10/branches/7.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: regression from tiki6: was accepting different format for created and lastModif when importing items	[15:46]
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nkoth\|nelson	sylvieg: is that fix needed to merge to trunk also?	[15:50]
sylvieg	doing the merge right now even if I am not sure it is still use.... nkoth\|nelson: thanks for reminding me (I usually forgot to do so)	[15:51]
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ricks99	isnt there a way to open a tiki page showing only the middle content area? i thought i could add something like &fullscreen=y to the end of the URL?	[16:44]
RobertPlummer	ricks99 jQUery.s5 uses it.	[16:46]
ricks99	so it relies on using jquery?	[16:50]
RobertPlummer	ricks99: no, 1 min I will have it for you.	[16:52]
ricks99	k. tx	[16:52]
RobertPlummer	tiki-index_raw.php The template if you need it: tiki-show_page_raw.tpl	[16:53]
ricks99	i thought was only for wiki pages? how would i use it with a non-wiki page?	[16:54]
RobertPlummer	oh, not sure. fullscreen then, not used it.	[16:55]
ricks99	:( not working for me (TIki 6.4) -- i do not have/want/need the fullscreen option on any other pages	[16:56]
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RobertPlummer	WHat is it for?	[17:04]
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ricks99	i want to have a popup window to show quiz results (tiki-quiz_result_stats.php) but only want the main area -- no left/right	[17:05]
RobertPlummer	popup window? you should use $().dialog(); And just select the content you need using jQuery	[17:06]
ricks99	or just new window (target=blank)	[17:06]
RobertPlummer	$('<div/>').load( oops $('<div />').load(url+selector, function(html) { $(this).dialog(html); });	[17:06]
ricks99	hmm... will look at that. tx	[17:07]
RobertPlummer	np	[17:07]
coaboa	Hi since last svn up wiki-page-edit- categories tab shows only the top category (in ie9, ff 6.0.2) and all categories expanded in chrome rev. 37252	[17:11]
Bernard1	coaboa: Hi, i have the same problem with the category plugin tested on FF6.02 and 4.02 on Mac. Reading your message i check on Win - IE9 and it work fine.	[17:20]
nkoth\|nelson	jonnyb: is the spinner anything to do with the category selector? maybe it's just the .boxes .dialog css	[17:21]
jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson: not as far as i know - why?	[17:21]
coaboa	last known version without this cstegorize problem: 37245	[17:22]
nkoth\|nelson	because people are saying that r37252 breaks the category selector in wiki pages browser dependent	[17:22]
jonnyb	oh right, yes - i meant to ask RobertPlummer if those classes were only for "modal" i thought they should have less generic names	[17:22]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb Yea originally I created them to add as dom elements. They can be renamed and should not conflict with anything. Should have checked if they existed somewhere, but the way I was using them it didn't matter much. But now they should be.	[17:23]
coaboa	Bernard1 I just rechecked my IE9.0.8 on windows 7 does not have more than the top category: maybe yours has a chaed version? *cached	[17:23]
Bernard1	It also broke the plugin structures (not working on ff 6.02 and working on ie9)	[17:24]
nkoth\|nelson	coaboa are you sure it is r37252 or could it be something earlier?	[17:24]
coaboa	between 37245 & 37252	[17:25]
Bernard1	well my prob is related but not the same as you.	[17:25]
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Bernard1	i tested the plugin category and strutures; both on FF mac keep every item expended (the [+] don't appears at all) on win ie9 it work fine (i have an url if you need to look at it)	[17:26]
nkoth\|nelson	coaboa, can you manually roll back r37252 css change an dsee if it helps?	[17:27]
Bernard1	oh i'm on proposal/6.x ! (!important ;) )	[17:27]
coaboa	ok to version r37251?	[17:29]
jonnyb	ok, i get the same problem in ff 6.0 - looks like some js is messed up somewhere... investigating coaboa: is this with wysywyg? (it is for me)	[17:33]
coaboa	so with r37251 its the same trying r37251 jonnyb no wysiwyg so with r37251 its the same trying r37250	[17:36]
jonnyb	hmm, with no wysiwyg my categ picker seems fine here	[17:38]
RobertPlummer	nkoth\|nelson: Thanks for taking care of the lucene part of language + forum. I meant to get to it, but I got sidetracked. I digress.	[17:39]
nkoth\|nelson	RobertPlummer, np	[17:39]
jonnyb	coaboa: i just svn up'ed and it seems ok here in firefox now (don't think i broke anything in this area recently ;) )	[17:43]
coaboa	ok maybe its me ;-)	[17:44]
	strange rolling ack does not restore the externals nor the category picker. Copying all my mod to the machine which is on r 37245 does not break the category picker maybe some external changes? I used: svn update -r37245 (cleaned all available cache) is there a svn cmd which also rolles the external back?	[17:49]
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coaboa	found it: added a share this link js part to L&F customization and this broke the picker. Sorry for causing confusion.	[18:06]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37258 10/trunk/tiki-edit_draw.php: [FIX] Only check if file is svg if there is a file loaded	[18:07]
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Trebly	<jonnyb> Do you have any answer to my last assertion ? Am I wrong or right (in the principle) ?	[18:34]
arildb	Hi, I have created an initial (but incomplete) version of a Tiki installer for InnoDB, and I plan to create the project in experimental/tiki-innodb. Any recommended way to do this? ... or should I just upload all the files?	[18:35]
chealer	hi arildb. oh, I suggest you make it a proper branch or move it somewhere. http://dev.tiki.org/Experimental+Branches	[18:42]
arildb	chealer: ok. will try. Haven't done that before	[18:43]
changi\|away	arildb: you've already create tiki-innodb no , ?	[18:43]
chealer	changi\|away: yes but it's not an actual branch	[18:44]
arildb	chengi\|away: yes, but it only includes a modified tiki.sql. Now I have a fuller installation. Is it a problem that it already exists?	[18:44]
changi\|away	arildb: is it totally different ? arildb: or simply an add-on	[18:44]
arildb	changi\|away: Yes, now I have a full, monified Tiki installation/system that can be run so, a brach seems right should I delete the current tiki-innodb first?	[18:45]
changi\|away	arildb: yes i think so, and then recreate one based on trunk	[18:46]
arildb	ok	[18:46]
chealer	arildb: if you recreate one, you could simply name it "innodb"	[18:47]
svdasein	I just noticed - on this page: http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki-Syntax+Text - the quick reference table isn't quite right; the "syntax" column shows the result, not the syntax	[18:47]
arildb	chealer: ok any recommended form of documentation (or other recommends) for experimental braches?	[18:47]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37259 10/trunk/ (tiki-index.php tiki-read_article.php): [FIX] Change site language when page lang change feature lasted only for one page	[18:49]
changi\|away	svdasein: yes, it seems that ~np~ is not working	[18:49]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37260 10/branches/experimental/innodb/: InnoDB installer for Tiki	[18:53]
svdasein	changi\|away: is there alternative documentation 'til that gets fixed?	[18:54]
jonnyb	Trebly: sorry - the thing about wysiwyg and plugins? no, i can't get in to that at the moment i'm afraid (it's always a big task, anything to do with wysiwyg)	[18:55]
changi\|away	svdasein: if you have a specific question, one of us should be able to answer jonnyb: do we have a regression with ~np~ in 7.1 ?	[18:56]
svdasein	changi\|away: oh - no thanks. I'm setting something up for a client - they're going to want to be able to read documentation	[18:57]
ricks99	alternative doc: http://twbasics.keycontent.org ;-)	[18:58]
svdasein	thanks ricks99	[18:59]
jonnyb	changi\|away: looks like it's only broken inside the fancy table plugin, yes?	[18:59]
svdasein	jonnyb: I think it's elsewhere it's sort of sporadic but some stuff works, some doesn't it's all through the user guide stuff	[18:59]
jonnyb	changi\|away: inside version plugin too by the look of it	[19:00]
changi\|away	yes, a parser issue ?	[19:02]
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jonnyb	maybe - could be just some plugins is it the same in trunk? brb	[19:03]
changi\|away	jonnyb: unable to test because of Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Unexpected input at line47: <' in /var/local/trunkdoc.tiki.org/www/lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_templatelexer.php on line 192	[19:04]
jonnyb	changi\|away: sorry - seems like one of those days! off now, more tomorrow	[19:07]
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changi\|away	nkoth\|nelson: ping, you should have received an email for me :)	[19:15]
nkoth\|nelson	change\|away: ok forwarding	[19:19]
changi\|away	nkoth\|nelson: thx	[19:20]
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chealer	arildb: how to document the innodb branch? you saw the table on the page above?	[19:24]
arildb	chealer: no, where?	[19:25]
chealer	arildb: in the Summary section of http://dev.tiki.org/Experimental+Branches	[19:30]
arildb	chealer: ok	[19:31]
chealer	nkoth\|nelson: I'm fine with r37259, but not that the previous behavior was (somewhat) intended: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/36777 s/not/note/	[19:32]
coaboa	gn	[19:33]
nkoth\|nelson	chealer: I see, Butreally the feature makes little sense for me without persisitence it's almost like you might as well not have the feature and going to switch_lang is just cleaner for that purpose, even if it's one more hit	[19:33]
chealer	to me the feature is strange in any variant	[19:36]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37261 10/branches/experimental/innodb/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [NEW] Initial, but incomplete, update of installer to support InnoDB. tikiwiki: This version will (re)install InnoDB, but no choice is given i.e. no MyISAM option.	[19:41]
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arildb	chealer: doc done. https://dev.tiki.org/ExperimentalBranches+InnoDB ....thanks	[19:52]
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chealer	arildb: thank you :-) arildb: wouldn't it be simpler to set storage_engine ( http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/server-system-variables.html#sysvar_storage_engine ) ?	[20:06]
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arildb	chealer: That seems to set the default storage engine. Not sure if it applied to tables with a specified storage engine. Then there is the conversion of the data. Not sure if/how that is done. Also requires a server restart, if it did work, and that may not be possible for all. So, I doubt this is a better way	[20:10]
chealer	arildb: does it? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/storage-engine-setting.html has a query setting it	[20:12]
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chealer	arildb: it wouldn't apply to tables that specify a storage engine, but the idea would be to get rid of storage engine specifications on each table	[20:13]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37262 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX/ENH] wysiwyg_htmltowikii: fixed copy paste operations and added the corresponding tools to the toolbar.	[20:13]
chealer	something that should probably be done even for MyISAM-only arildb: as for conversion of data, I don't see how setting a default would affect that.	[20:13]
arildb	chealer: I think I misunderstood that it changed the storage engine, but all it does seem to be to specify the default storage engine	[20:15]
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chealer	arildb: yeah	[20:16]
arildb	chealer: Tiki currently uses fulltext searches, which are only supported by MyISAM.	[20:16]
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chealer	arildb: right. all I'm suggesting is that instead of specifying MyISAM on each table definition, we remove these and just set the default engine before. that should avoid having to parse tiki.sql and convert it.	[20:19]
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arildb	chealer: What I use is not really different URLs, just different subfolder for each installation. Each with their own database....very few problems	[20:42]
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chealer	changi\|away: Loggar seems to be on something again	[20:55]
changi\|away	yes i'm playing with him :) should be fine now	[20:55]
chealer	changi\|away: all right, be free, I was just worried it was broken	[20:55]
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coaboa	Hi is create tracker broken in current trunk r37262? The PopUp dialogue is empty. But not hen editing an existing tracker.	[21:00]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37264 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Abstract.php: notice	[21:00]
coaboa	*when editing	[21:01]
arildb	tiki_user_bookmarks_folders in tiki.sql causes the error: "Incorrect table definition; there can be only one auto column and it must be defined as a key". Should be fixed. Is this table still in use?	[21:10]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37265 10/branches/experimental/innodb/db/tiki.sql: tikiwiki: [FIX] The tiki installer doesn't like c-style comments. Removed commented tikiwiki: sections, including the table tiki_user_bookmarks_folders which causes the tikiwiki: error: "Incorrect table definition; there can be only one auto column and it tikiwiki: must be defined as a key". Should be fixed.	[21:14]
luciash	re-polom	[21:15]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03arildb * r37266 10/branches/experimental/innodb/db/tiki_sql_removed_statements.sql: [FIX] Forgot one file. Completes r37265	[21:15]
luciash	luciash thinks now the google+ really sucks they force me to change my name or disable my google+ account taking down my picasa albums with :(	[21:15]
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fabricius	luciash: whooo what? why?	[21:22]
luciash	fabricius: they "detected" my name is not a "proper" name i would understand that if they force me to insert "proper" name when joining google+ but ithink it is evil when they let you in, offer to convert your picasa albums to work with google+ and after a while they force you to leave including the "now connected service" picasa albums	[21:24]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Logon Problem - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42240	[21:32]
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fabricius	luciash: I think, I remember, that I have read, that it would be possible to "unconnect" such a sevice again	[21:46]
luciash	fabricius: that would be good; otherwise it would be evil fabricius: let me know if you find the read fabricius: i have no idea now - i let them review my name again and see in few days	[21:51]
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brylie	I would like to create a directory of links to Free Software tools. I would like to have additional fields for each tool such as 'license', 'OS', etc.. I would also like for users to be able to rate and comment on their experiences with the tools. Should this be done with the TikiWiki directory, tracker, wiki (possibly with ttemplates), or some other way?	[21:54]
luciash	i would choose tracker brylie: ^	[21:54]
brylie	OK, that is what I was thinking. I just wasn't sure if there was a better way as my knowledge of TikiWiki is very limited.	[21:55]
luciash	tiki directory feature is not that easily extendible	[21:55]
brylie	And the tracker data can be integrated into other 'views' such as wiki pages or JSON perehaps? *perhaps	[21:56]
luciash	brylie: wiki pages (using pretty trackers) or export to CSV iirc for the OS list probably use dynamic items list see	[21:57]
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luciash	http://doc.tiki.org/Dynamic+items+list	[21:57]
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fabricius	luciash: I will not find that, sorry, but look what I found instead: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Picasa/thread?tid=0d7405f305d45158&hl=en luciash: and the information fits with what I remember now ... you cannot disconnect picasa, but you can downgrade from google+ luciash: then you'd have picasa as before, but no more google+	[22:05]
luciash	hmm :( i fear it will delete (remove) my picasa albums also	[22:06]
fabricius	one of us could send you another invitation, if you still want and then you could ... perhabs the best way to just try to avoid google whee possible where	[22:07]
luciash	"You cannot de-link or unlink. Picasaweb is a key component of the Google+ design and experience."	[22:07]
fabricius	maybe setting up a tiki based album?	[22:07]
luciash	"If you want to truly separate your Picasa web account then you would have to migrate your web albums to a new Google account." http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Picasa/thread?tid=5005c90ac2f7af80&hl=en	[22:08]
fabricius	yes - but downgrade google+ pretty much must work to leave google+ and stay in picasa but they (google) seems to be fu**ers, even worse that microsoft has been (or still are?) give a private company unlimited power and it will destroy democracy maybe it is just the law of economy what's the story with diaspora? passed by or still an arising alternative of social software?	[22:08]
luciash	yeah, i am very upset now with google	[22:11]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37268 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [REF] move code for getting information on objects from CategLib category_...() to ObjectLib add_object(). category_...() methods removed. tikiwiki: add_object(): support calling without object information, getting the information from the relevant table. removes freetags "DIRTY hack". somewhat document tikiwiki: add_categorized_object(): make object information optional	[22:12]
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	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37269 10/trunk/lib/objectlib.php: [FIX] add_object() (oops, r37268 regression)	[22:32]
brylie	fabricius, have you checked in to GNU.social?	[22:34]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37270 10/trunk/ (6 files in 6 dirs): tikiwiki: [REF] add_categorized_object(), add_object(): optionally fail and return FALSE if object type is not handled and no information is given tikiwiki: [REF] category_any(): remove apparently unused object types	[23:27]
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fabricius	brylie - just read - interesting	[23:43]
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