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RinaldoIs there an issue with the website at tiki.org today I login and I get a logout button -- when I change the page I get the login prompt again I have not been to the site for close to five years [09:55]
MerbsterRinaldo, I see no issues as of now? [10:07]
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RinaldoOK thanks [10:27]
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RinaldoI am teaching a course this year I used to use tiki for Continuos Integration at Sun Microsystems great technology. I am having some issues with how the new version works. I used to use the list plugin to display forums on a page it is no longer working the way I used to do it [10:28]
SJ-Jaywhat is it exactly u want? [10:31]
Rinaldo{LIST()}{filter categories="dps2014"} {LIST} [10:31]
SJ-Jayshow forum posts on a page? [10:31]
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Rinaldois not returning any data [10:31]
MerbsterRinaldo, I think categories should be a list of delimited category IDS not text. [10:31]
Rinaldooh how stupid on my part [10:31]
SJ-Jaymerbster 100 pts :D [10:31]
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Rinaldothe examples was so clear [10:32]
MerbsterRinaldo, No worries, not all Tiki docs are exactly straight forward :P [10:32]
Rinaldoright that is why there were numbers in there I had thought someone was using the 1 as a category name
My concern is that if I give soem of this powert to students they will not get it it is a very powerful wiki
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MerbsterRinaldo, what kind of students are we talking? [10:33]
Rinaldopost graduate [10:33]
Merbsteryes but in what field :P [10:33]
RinaldoComputing [10:33]
MerbsterTHey should get it fairly quick I'd say [10:33]
RinaldoI just an't stadn these wikis that do not have sophistication
where everyone copies and pastes the same content
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MerbsterI would say Tiki is so much more than just a Wiki
SJ-Jay, and me are basing a company intranet on it.
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RinaldoI know I used it to build Sun Grid
a clodu computing platform that predated amazon
it was a tremendous aid -- before hudson/jenkins existed I put all the artifacts from builds into it
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MerbsterRinaldo I am not familiar with much of Suns tech. most companies in denmark are too small. (only SOHO level compared to US standards) [10:52]
RinaldoNot important
Does anyone know of a two column theme
Two
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MerbsterRinaldo, can't you just disable one of the bars? [10:57]
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RinaldoIs it in the module config or I do I need to do it with css [11:12]
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MerbsterRinaldo, I would expect it to be in Admin->Look & feel
Rinaldo, I have not used this functionality myself thogh
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RinaldoHave to file a bug seems like th enew module interface it does wrn you that it is experimental doesn't allow a category to be removed. I added a category and I can't delete it no matter what I do it goes back to the top bar. [11:32]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Permission to move files requires File Galleries Admin access? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42276 [11:38]
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ricks99polom y'all [11:53]
SJ-Jaypolom ricks99 [11:55]
Merbsterhey ricks99 [11:55]
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talinhello, and spello. i am trying to export a bunch of pages to XML [11:55]
ricks99hiya guys. will have something to send to you in a bit [11:56]
talinbut when i make it list all of my pages, check all and select perform action XML Zip, it only makes a zip-file iwth like the first 10 pages [11:56]
SJ-Jaynoce!
nice*
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ricks99@talin: what tiki version are you using? [12:00]
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talinricks99: trying to figure out where i can check that [12:02]
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ricks99talin: Admin > General page [12:03]
talinricks99: thank you. it says 4.2 [12:03]
ricks99wow. very old (and no longer supported). suggest either upgrading to current 6.4 LTS or 7.1 and retrying. i don't even think 4.x has any error reporting options that would help pinpoint the issue
talin: see tiki.org/download for details
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Tiki|botInfo: Upcoming TikiFests - http://info.tiki.org/article174-Upcoming-TikiFests [12:05]
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RobertPlummerpolom all [12:06]
ricks99bolow [12:07]
Merbster'lo :) [12:08]
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RobertPlummerSo guys, I got some work done on tracker query lib to push it more of an "api" for hooking into. [12:08]
MerbsterSounds nice :) [12:08]
RobertPlummerStill some work needs done [12:08]
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MerbsterRobertPlummer, did you commit those changes to trunk? [12:09]
RobertPlummerexample: TrackerQueryLib::tracker("tracker name or id")->byName()->fields(array())->query() [12:09]
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RobertPlummerNot yet, I can if you'd like to help me track down some bugs. [12:09]
MerbsterRobertPlummer, I don't know if I am daring enough to use the new code (I know that the current one does what I need atm).
I'd still like to see the implkementation because I was thinking about the way you call those methods (jquery style I will dub them)
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RobertPlummerlol
Probably ok to call it that.
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MerbsterRobertPlummer, are you just returning $this by reference in all the functions? [12:25]
RobertPlummerYup [12:25]
MerbsterWhy is the page with information about the next tiki fest, written in french? [12:29]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37402 10/trunk/ (lib/tikiaccesslib.php tiki-admin_categories.php): [ENH]categories: be able to admin the categories you are admin wihtout having to have a global tiki_p_admin_categories [12:48]
chealerMerbster: it's multilingual. the language can be changed at the top [12:56]
Merbsterchealer, says no translation exists for this page [12:56]
SJ-Jayricks99, u there? :) [12:58]
chealerMerbster: the next TikiFest meaning the one in Sherbrooke? [12:59]
Merbsteryes [12:59]
chealerMerbster: I changed the language property of the page. it is actually in French. there is no English version of the page [13:00]
RobertPlummerMerbster: Lookout, commit comming. [13:00]
Merbsterchealer, ok.
RobertPlummer, nice :)
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37403 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] Reworked how tracker query lib works, it is now using selectable attributes rather than function callable, example:TrackerQueryLib::tracker("name or id") [13:02]
RobertPlummerWoops didn't mean to commit those other files at the same time, ouch
I pressed shift enter, thinking it'd give me a line break, instead it gave me a commit.
Off to clean up the implosion...
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37404 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Catch the smarty exception when compiling fails to provide better feedback.
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r37405 10/third_party/smarty3/ (10 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [UPDATE] ===== Smarty 3.0.9 =====
tikiwiki: 27/07/2011
tikiwiki: - bugfix subtemplate could use wrong varibale scope when it was recalled from
tikiwiki: different templates
tikiwiki: 26/07/2011
tikiwiki: - bugfix experimental getTags() method did not work
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37406 10/trunk/lib/ (sheet/grid.php trackers/trackerquerylib.php):
tikiwiki: [FIX] Added static to function "tracker"
tikiwiki: [FIX] Brought jquery sheet grid back online from overhaul of trackerquerylib
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lphuberdeauamette, grats on getting the pirate party to parliment in Berlin [13:18]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37407 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: escape
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37408 10/trunk/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: [merge/r 37407]escape
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37409 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: [bp/r37408]escape
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37410 10/trunk/lib/core/Tracker/Definition.php: [ENH] Brought fields as ids feature to a different function, simplified existing
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37411 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Catch more exceptions, smarty can mess up in different ways
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37412 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Brought tracker query lib back online from Tracker Definition change
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chealerpolom [14:22]
lphuberdeaugosh, the field permissions are convoluted
isHidden controls editability
Editable by tracker administrator and creator only, who can view that?
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sylvieg1lphuberdeau: I think everybody can see but only admin and creator can see
sorry
last see is edit
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RobertPlummerchealer: polom [14:54]
chealergood morning RobertPlummer [14:56]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37413 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.money_format.php: [REF] locales are set in tiki-setup.php from r37006 [15:00]
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MerbsterDoes the edit tracker items UI not support categorizing the individual items? or do you have to do that through trackerplugin params? [15:14]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37414 10/trunk/ (3 files): [FIX] tracker query lib dependency fixes [15:14]
lphuberdeauMerbster, you need to use the category tracker field, or use other means of categorization [15:21]
Merbsterlphuberdeau, great, thank you [15:21]
sylvieg1chealer: this is true - about your comment about the commit for tiki_p_admin_categories
... if I have tiki_p_admin_categories acn I loose this perms if the object has special eprms?
This is truwe for non admin perm ... but for admin perm I am confused
lphuberdeau: if Perms::get('','') behaves correctly? and is fast
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lphuberdeauhum, what do you expect from that? [15:29]
sylvieg1sorry Perms::get('category', '') [15:29]
lphuberdeauthat will always give global perms with no id provided [15:30]
sylvieg1and is it fast? [15:30]
lphuberdeaudefine fast? [15:36]
changi|awaylphuberdeau: you've got a mail [15:36]
lphuberdeausylvieg, with no id provided, it's a cycle slower than just asking for the global one directly, but it won't make it "slow"
changi: that seems to be the expected result
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chealerhi sylvieg1. sorry, could you rephrase that? [15:39]
changi|awaylphuberdeau: it's a menu [15:40]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37415 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Centralize the per-field permission checks [15:41]
lphuberdeauchangi: the error you see means that there is a smarty syntax error [15:41]
sylvieg1my question are teh admin perms behaving the same way that other perms... Can I loose my admin_xxxx perm on an object if I am not an admin? [15:41]
changi|awaylphuberdeau: how can a menu have a smarty error ? [15:42]
sylvieg1.. is very tempted to use only lph routine Perms::get only [15:42]
lphuberdeauchangi: menus are weird, I just made sure the error did not crash the whole site [15:42]
chealerchangi|away: it's a user module [15:43]
lphuberdeausylvieg: tiki_p_admin_categories is defined to have a global scope, so it can't be overridden per object
at least, not in trunk
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sylvieg1and a tiki_p_admin_trackers? [15:44]
chealersylvieg1: in general, yes, but then permissions are not too consistent [15:44]
lphuberdeauobject scope [15:44]
changi|awaychealer: it seems to be a custom module with some perspective [15:44]
lphuberdeaujust check the definitions in userlib [15:44]
chealerchangi|away: possible (I have no system access) [15:45]
changi|awaychealer: i've just send the custom module code
on the devel lits
s/lits/list/
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lphuberdeauouch, module within module, you're calling for trouble [15:48]
MerbsterI have bad experience with modules in modules
and I tend to avoid it
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lphuberdeausuccess depends on planatary alignments more than anything as you get a bunch of global variables getting overwritten [15:49]
Merbsternice comparison lphuberdeau :) [15:50]
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lphuberdeaubut I think the crash is caused by img src=pics/icons/information.png alt="Note"}
no quotes around the path, which is one of the smarty 3 subtleties
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chealerchangi|away: thanks. I'm unable to login - "Erreur XMLRPC : 101 - Clé du serveur invalide" [15:52]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37416 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX]perms: respect order object perms then global perms: thx chealer - wondering if the best is not to user Perms:get('','') to be sure to have the same behavior [15:52]
changi|awaychealer: yes because of moving from on server to another [15:53]
chealerchangi|away: yes, I mean thanks for unassigning the module, I can now see the site as anonymous and would try reducing to a test case, but can't login... [15:55]
changi|awayi'm modifing the api key, i don't know how much time the server need to take the new one [15:55]
lphuberdeausylvieg, chealer: in trunk, the permission checking is smarter and knows what is global and what is per object, and per-object means you override the global, that is expected
you can have global admin trackers, but not on a specific one, that's a good behavior, but it may be different from what used to happen
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sylvieg1so I can call only Perms:get($objectType, $objectId) ? [15:58]
lphuberdeauyes [15:59]
sylvieg1ok Thx a lot [15:59]
chealerlphuberdeau: so if you ask for a permissions on an object but the permission isn't per-object, the global value is returned? [16:01]
lphuberdeauues
yes
pretty sure I sent a mail about this around 4 months ago
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chealergood [16:02]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37417 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php: [FIX]perms: better to use only the perms layer: thx lph [16:02]
changi|awaylphuberdeau: i fixed the double quote, but nothing has changed
see ya all
need to go
more tomorrow
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lphuberdeaucleared cache and all? [16:04]
changi|awayyep [16:04]
lphuberdeaureally can't say remotely
lphuberdeau is still satisfied smarty errors in modules no longer crash tiki
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sylvieg1thx lphuberdeau [16:08]
chealersylvieg1: thanks, that's better
sylvieg1: small problem - the form to create categories is shown even if you can't
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sylvieg1btw thx chealer: you avoid a security hole :-)
.. if you are admin for a categ you shpould be able to create a categ under
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RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: Any way to send user params via http authentication? [16:15]
lphuberdeauuser params? [16:15]
RobertPlummeranything that has to do with their user name
groups, perms, anything
params = general
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37418 10/trunk/ (css/admin.css templates/admin/include_list_sections.tpl): [FIX] admin: Make the admin buttons a tiny bit smaller so you get 5 across in standard fixed width (as default). Also centre them a little better. [16:16]
lphuberdeauyou want to return the user's info? [16:16]
chealersylvieg1: I agree. apparently that's not the case currently though [16:16]
lphuberdeaucategory creation by non-global admin was not implemented
so the check may not be accurate
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chealersylvieg1: the problem is the interface shows Top to create a category currently, even if you don't have global tiki_p_admin_categories
you need that to create a root category
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RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: The goal is to bring user info to bluebox for sip/xmpp login, no way of doing that as of now? [16:18]
chealersylvieg1: two solutions - 1. revert your commit 2. check permission for Top [16:18]
sylvieg1heeh because I forgot to commit one file [16:19]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37419 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_categories.tpl: [FIX]missing to 37402 [16:20]
lphuberdeauRobertPlummer, you can write a service for that in lib/core/Services/User/Controller.php [16:20]
sylvieg1thx chealer: I really need to be more careful [16:20]
RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: That sounds like what we want to do.
lphuberdeau: Marc will be joining us shortly with questions.
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lphuberdeaujust make sure you only return the current user's info or check the admin user permission
some of that stuff may be sensitive
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37420 10/trunk/lib/tikiaccesslib.php:
tikiwiki: check_permission(): reformat
tikiwiki: [FIX] Colons inside translated strings
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chealerOK sylvieg1, thanks. now the only thing is the interface shouldn't offer to add a category if no parent can be selected (and the user can't create a new root category) [16:25]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37421 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] clutips: Shorter delay before clutip appears. Apparently people weren't waiting long enough (thanks marclaporte) [16:31]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37422 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Deploy the field permission changes to the tracker plugin [16:41]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37423 10/trunk/lib/prefs/feature.php: [FIX] jquery_ui: More suitable default ui theme to match fivealive better [16:54]
amettelphuberdeau: Thanks, mate! :) [16:57]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37424 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Deploy tracker permission changes to tiki-view_tracker.php [17:28]
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sylviegdo we have a function to duplicate permissions of an object [17:55]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37425 10/trunk/tiki-view_invoice.php: [FIX] removed tracker query lib as var
tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37426 10/trunk/ (tiki-tracker_export_join.php tiki-tracker_reports.php): [FIX] Fixed tracker reports for new changes in tracker query lib
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sylviegfound it copy_object_permissions [18:08]
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lphuberdeauarildb, are you around?
lphuberdeau checks out the innodb branch
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arildblphuberdeau: Yes, I am here [18:18]
lphuberdeauchecking out the branch now, I might have a few questions/comments for you [18:18]
arildblphuberdeau: ok [18:19]
lphuberdeauactually updating the branch so I can see the changes [18:20]
arildblphuberdeau: Thanks for checking it out. I am a bit back and forth from the computer. So, if my replies come a bit slow, you know the reason... [18:24]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37427 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX]categ: if not tiki_p_admin_categories and see no categ, goto perm denied + duplicated the perms when creating a category and non admin_categories (to see it) + do not show perm icon if non admin_catwegories [18:30]
chealerRobertPlummer: is TrackerQueryLib special? why "TikiLib::lib("trkqry"); $trkqrylib = new TrackerQueryLib();" rather than "$trkqrylib = TikiLib::lib("trkqry");" ? [18:31]
RobertPlummerNo, just bad coding, I will have it back to normal in a min.
Thanks chealer
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chealerOK [18:33]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r37428 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Reverted new tracker query lib call
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37429 10/branches/experimental/innodb/ (67 files in 28 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 37368 to 37426
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RobertPlummerchealer, can you take a look at that code I committed?
can I have a static and non-static method that have the same name in php?
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lphuberdeaueven if you can, don't [18:37]
RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: lol thanks
why not though if you mind me asking?
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chealerRobertPlummer: r37428 is good, thanks [18:39]
RobertPlummerHey guys, where do tests go?
for instance, tests for parser lib
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lphuberdeauarildb, to be used elsewhere, don't you think those inspection utilities to get the engines and such should be in TikiDb?
alrildb, also, for future considerations, I would use a string match ('myisam' or 'innodb') rather than a boolean flag
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arildblphuberdeau: Yes, TikiDb would probably be a good place. I have also duplicated a couple of functions (Installer and prefs). Maybe moving them to TikiDb will resolve that [18:49]
lphuberdeaumost likely [18:50]
arildbstring match...I don't see the context, but I have intentionally made it boolean some place. So, rule changes can be made. [18:51]
RobertPlummerMerbster, get a chance to use the new tracker query lib? [18:52]
lphuberdeauwell, it's just that if this extends to other engines, the boolean is a bad pattern to start with [18:52]
chealerthanks sylvieg [18:53]
arildblphuberdeau: why? [18:53]
lphuberdeaumultiple booleans cause messy conditions
if you keep the target engine internally as a string, it's easier to add more engine variants
you can also remove some conditionals
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sylviegchealer: thanks for your tests [18:54]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37430 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX] typo [18:55]
lphuberdeaufor example, check if "tiki_$engine.sql" exists and running it [18:55]
arildbunrelated, but fyi. demo.tiki.org the MySQL installation behaves differently than on my local. SHOW TABLE STATUS LIKE ? works both places, but SHOW TABLE STATUS WHERE name = ? only works locally and not on the demo machine. Should be valid MySQL syntax. Any idea? [18:55]
lphuberdeaudifferent mysql versions
the one on demo is quite old unless I am mistaken
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arildbok [18:57]
lphuberdeauotherwise, it looks good
I'd just like to see the utilities move to TikiDb, then I think we're good to merge
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arildbsounds good [18:59]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37431 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php:
tikiwiki: [MOD] Use the <h#> style attribute to center headings instead of a nested <div>.
tikiwiki: This improves how numbered and centered headings are displayed and simplifies the implementation of the Visual Wiki.
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lphuberdeauI'll deal with the dynamic preference stuff after the merge
it's really not critical as the engine remains experimental
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arildbThere is one thing pending. If you do a config search for "search", the "MySQL fulltext search" still appears. It shouldn't [19:00]
lphuberdeauI did not try running the code, you get most of tiki running fine?
arildb, that might just be the index being out of date
how do you block it?
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arildbI believe I have tested most scenarios, including the updates. About the seacrh result: No, I make an explcit check in the search panel. No such check in the search. You checking dynamic preferences should hopefully solve it [19:01]
lphuberdeauok, so it does not do anything because you did not try to get it to do anything ;) [19:02]
arildbright :-) ...pending. I am not really sure where to look. Good if you could integrate dynamic preferences.
As long as you are here, I have another question
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lphuberdeaugood work
sure
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arildbI have made some reports on "Add Comment" priveleges and how they seem to ignore category privileges. Only global privileges (and object I presume) works for the pos_comment right. Any idea why?
I am working on a project where limiting comments is an issue
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lphuberdeauworking with trunk?
I actually have that bug report open right now
but have not looked into it
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arildbI have tested with 6.x, 7.x and 8.0 SVN and they all have the same problem [19:06]
lphuberdeauI would only expect 8 to be different [19:06]
arildbI did the last test a few days ago [19:06]
lphuberdeau6 and 7 are supposed to use global permissions
so this is about posting comments?
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arildbyes, it only seems to apply for posting comments [19:07]
lphuberdeaucomment permissions still have global scope [19:08]
arildbok. A bit confusing, since the GUI allows category permissions to be set [19:08]
lphuberdeaureally? in 8? [19:09]
arildblast time i CHECKED, YES [19:09]
lphuberdeaulet me look into tht for you [19:10]
arildbthanks [19:10]
lphuberdeauhmm... someone must have undone one of my changes [19:11]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37432 10/trunk/lib/test/editlib/ (ParseToWiki_TextTest.php ParseToWysiwyg_TextTest.php): [ENH] More tests for EditLib (need to fix numbered and centerd headings) [19:17]
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37433 10/trunk/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX] Perm type for category is category, not all, meaning that only permissions that can actually be assigned to a category will be listed [19:22]
lphuberdeauok, so that should fix the listing [19:22]
arildbalready!...great, I will check oit out [19:23]
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Caarrie|awayhttp://dev.tiki.org/tiki-tracker_rss.php?trackerId=5 is giving error "Fatal error: Call to a member function renderOutput() on a non-object in /home/two/dev/tiki-tracker_rss.php on line 109" causing the bot to not give your updates [19:28]
lphuberdeaufixing the permissions now, won't take long [19:30]
arildb:-) [19:31]
lphuberdeaufor the listing, it was just the link that was wrong
(however, the link building should not affect that, but that's the way it was coded)
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37434 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [FIX] Make the comment permissions available for object and category scope, rest of the code already supports it [19:34]
lphuberdeaudone, make sure you flush your cache [19:34]
arildbthanks, I will do a check now
Q: Why do you limit the scope on some permission types, especially the onces that (can) apply to wiki pages?
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lphuberdeauI didn't really do much testing, it's just a matter of permission configuration
sometimes the checks are only made globally
normally, you would need more code changes to enable object permissions, but I made a ton of changes to comments a few weeks back and object permissions just had to be flipped on
the major change between 7 & 8 is that tiki no longer lies about what it can do
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RobertPlummerlol [19:38]
arildbno more lying ..sounds good! [19:38]
RobertPlummerI don't know, sounds too honest. [19:38]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37435 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_TextTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [FIX] Visual Wiki: centerd and numberd headings were not converted correctly (the number was not replaces with a #) [19:38]
lphuberdeauin the past, it would list all permissions as applicable to categories, which just isn't true
now if a permission appears there, it has all the code required to apply in a smart way, unless a programmer lied
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arildbthis will solve lots of frustration... [19:39]
lphuberdeauif you check the object permissions, you'll also see comment permissions there [19:40]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37436 10/trunk/lib/test/editlib/ParseToWiki_CharacterTest.php: [ENH] Testing of EditLib (test linebreaks within color markup) [19:54]
arildblphuberdeau: I did a test, and it failed. My database is not fresh though. Remnents of a test I did remains. The test was: Assign all privileges globally to all including anonymous. Then create a category and revole all previleges from anonymous. Strange results.... [19:54]
lphuberdeaudid you clear cache? [19:55]
arildbyes [19:55]
lphuberdeaualright alright, I'll do an actual test [19:56]
coaboais there a way to export a tracker with its fields / fieldtypes? export just has field names and Ids, quickExport jast has the fieldnames and items? ref. trunk. [19:57]
lphuberdeaucoaboa, go under admin fields, export is in the dropdown [19:58]
coaboaon cool, somewhat hidden though ;-) [20:00]
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arildblphuberdeau: looks better on a not-so-messed-up database [20:02]
lphuberdeauarildb, seems to work
the Comments like still shows up on the page, but clicking it fails and the console shows a 403 as I would expect
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arildblphuberdeau: looks ok on my cleaner database. I will test a little more [20:03]
lphuberdeaugranting view to anonymous and not post (from category) gives me exactly what I expect to see
it might just be some permission leftovers around on your test db
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arildbtry to grant all right globally to anonymous, then revoke them for anonymous for a category. Assign a page to that category and try to access the page as anonymous
could be
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lphuberdeauthat's exactly my test right now [20:05]
arildbI did the same test before, but then all permissions were visible [20:05]
lphuberdeauwithout admin comments
yeah, before those permissions were global-only
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arildbI will reset the database and do the same test again [20:06]
lphuberdeau: Now that's strange. Did the test assign all and revoke all from anonymous for a category. Strangely enough, the Comment button is not displayed, but as an anonymous user, I can see all(?) other commands on the test page
Since viewing also was revoked, I should not see the page at all
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lphuberdeauviewing on the page? [20:14]
arildbYes, as anonymous I can view the page and most commands are present
the save failed, when I actually tried to save an update. However, I can see the edit button
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lphuberdeaustrange [20:17]
arildbrename went through. Can see the history. Assign permissions also seemed to work [20:17]
lphuberdeaudo you have admin_wiki granted?
that one might be global and it's in the pre-check
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arildbLet me check
tiki_p_admin_wiki is assigned globally, yes
Let me uncheck that perm and try again
cleared the cache. Still the same result
tiki_p_admin_wiki is revoked from anonymous at category level too
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lphuberdeaufound something fishy [20:21]
arildbok? [20:22]
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philbackpolom
Question: I am trying to list all members of a group along with their pictures (ala Facebook). Any idea on how to do this the easy way?
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37437 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] applyPermissions for wiki render was mostly broken [20:37]
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arildblphuberdeau: I integrated your latest update r37437. tiki_p_admin_wiki is not set for anonymous at global leve. Cleared the cache. Still the same result. Can see the page and most commands [20:55]
coaboagn [20:55]
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arildbbtw. The failure when actually saving (as anonymous) I mentioned above, was probably caused by me not entering the capcha code. Now that I did I can save fine..even without any permissions to the category the page is assigned to [20:58]
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luciash_fabricius: hi [22:28]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37438 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH]menu: add a class for non cssmenu to be able to style with css and not only
tikiwiki: with jq + indent the the submenus for a structure menu to avoid confusion of
tikiwiki: sublevel + todo: indent also menu that have more than 3 levels or are complex
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fabriciushi luciash
how r u?
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luciashhi, fine, tks
just discovered dan&dan on youtube :-p
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fabriciusluciash: it's funny or interesting?
have a link?
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luciashhiraliously funny
or hilariously, even :D
here's "their" channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/dananddanfilms
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fabriciusluciash: it is funny
jaffa cakes
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