#tikiwiki 2011-09-23,Fri

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Terry_	Here's an interesting question. Might there be a way to include document comments inline much like a blog, where the comments are also a forum post?	[00:00]
lphuberdeau	what do you mean?	[00:04]
chealer	thanks arildb. do you anticipate that removing the redefined url{en,de}code() functions would cause any issue?	[00:08]
arildb	chealer: No, I don't think they are needed anymore. Thus reverting the old update should be OK	[00:09]
chealer	arildb: OK. do you see any reason to keep them for some time?	[00:10]
arildb	chealer: I think the to_utf8 function may be handy later. The redefined urlencode functions don't do much harm either. So, maybe keep them until this issue is a bit tested and verified.	[00:12]
chealer	arildb: OK, should we remove the calls to to_utf8() then, to avoid confusion?	[00:14]
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arildb	chealer: I think just leave it as it is for now. The integration of the to_utf8 call does solve some issues. Though these issues should hopefully disappear from Tiki now	[00:16]
chealer	OK	[00:17]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37569 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: get_pages(): Add TODO	[02:13]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37570 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: [FIX] "Undefined variable: tiki_p_wiki_approve" tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37571 10/trunk/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-editpage.php): [FIX] "Undefined property: TikiLib::$cache_page_info"	[02:51]
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Mneme_	Good evening. Question. I want to set my default page as my blog list--not an individual blog. The admin menu for General > Navigation does not give me this option. It ignores "Use different URL as homepage" and also reverts "Use Tiki feature as homepage" to Wiki, though the single blog does show up when I click the site logo. Solutions?	[03:29]
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	Overriding this by assigning group homepages works, but is inelegant. shrugs Guess that will do for now.	[03:47]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37572 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] create_page(): broken creation of links (variable naming conflict). tikiwiki: r32067 regression. Thanks Arild Berg.	[04:35]
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fabricius	polom	[06:08]
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Merbster	polom	[06:22]
fabricius	Hi Merbster - I believe, that the WYSIWYG problem I mentioned yesterday might be a browser specific problem and not a problem with the binder or the editor. In Trunk the WYSIWYG seems much more stable and the switching between the editors seems to be much more possible, than it was recently - Mauritz did a very good job on that.	[06:24]
Merbster	fabricius, nice to know. thank you for the heads up :)	[06:24]
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coaboa	polom tikiverse	[06:47]
Merbster	Hi coaboa :) and polom to you	[06:48]
SJ-Jay	polom	[06:49]
coaboa	hi guys	[06:57]
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Merbster	fabricius, have you encounted that the logo mudle only displays in the module admin page? encountered* mudle is the new and flashy word for MODULE... ;)	[07:09]
	doh remember to set the page top to "if module" not "never" :P	[07:19]
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	mmm I found a list of old C64 hits on youtube.	[08:36]
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luciash	polom	[08:51]
Merbster	polom luciash	[08:54]
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chibaguy	polom	[09:13]
luciash	hi chibaguy !	[09:14]
chibaguy	hi luciash maketoc's showhide doesn't seem to be working in tiki 7.	[09:14]
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chibaguy	chibaguy trying to finish up Tikipedia theme for Tiki 7.	[09:16]
jonnyb	polom hi chibaguy	[09:16]
chibaguy	hi jonnyb	[09:17]
coaboa	hi jonnyb and chibaguy	[09:18]
jonnyb	Alex is enjoying tikinewt - haven't found much wrong with it so far morning coaboa	[09:19]
chibaguy	hi coaboa	[09:20]
coaboa	how was "partyING" ?	[09:20]
chibaguy	jonnyb, that's good.	[09:20]
jonnyb	coaboa: nice thanks, but fairly quiet with family	[09:21]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37573 10/trunk/lib/setup/mobile.php: [FIX] mobile: Turn Code Mirror off (thanks marclaporte) tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37574 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-adsense.php: [FIX] added tra(..) missing	[09:21]
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Merbster	Merbster has a weekend of partying with family	[09:39]
luciash	hi jonnyb , coaboa	[09:40]
coaboa	hello luciash	[09:41]
luciash	jonnyb: who is Alex ? anybody knows how should the regex look in the tracker field validation ? i have put /[a-z0-9-]+/ but it said my input is not ok, when i tried some-foo-page-name put in there then i put [a-z0-9-]+ only, and then no validation seems to be done (i can input anything i want, lol)	[09:41]
jonnyb	polom luciash Alex is a friend of mine who lives in Japan (so just round the corner from chibaguy!) - i'm converting his e-commerce site to a Tiki (gradually) i tohught he might want some design work done on it so could use Gary but he seems happy with tikinewt! :)	[09:50]
luciash	jonnyb: ah, great :)	[09:52]
jonnyb	at least they should have TikiFest Japan #1 at some point	[09:52]
luciash	definitely ! ah, seems i found something: http://doc.tiki.org/Tracker+Field+Validation weird, it didn't work though lunch time, bbl	[09:52]
fabricius	hi jonnyb	[10:00]
jonnyb	hi fabricius	[10:01]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37575 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-search.php: [FIX] added tra(..) missing	[10:01]
chibaguy	bbl	[10:14]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37576 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-search.php: [FIX] added tra(..) missing	[10:19]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37578 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations + corrections	[10:42]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37579 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackertimeline.php: [FIX] timeline: Add default to switch statement for non-simile timeline rendering to avoid endless loop caused by using incompatible date range (e.g. decade)	[11:09]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[11:27]
Merbster	polom ricks99 ricks99, how easy is it to make Tiki alot slower by applying a screwed theme?	[11:28]
ricks99	pretty easy if you've got a bunch of include statements. each requires a seaprate http hit but normally, pure styling shouldn't affect peformance much	[11:29]
Merbster	ricks99, I just noticed a significant speedup and better working tiki after we applied the theme from you.	[11:30]
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Merbster	So I was thinking, that if a theme is made incorrectly it might "go around" tiki's built in caching?	[11:30]
ricks99	well, my css was significantly smaller... size does matter.	[11:31]
Merbster	But we're on 1gb intranet here. thos kb of CSS should not give that much of an overhead :P gb as in gigabit	[11:31]
ricks99	could run a perfornace comparison between the two and see where the wait time is from	[11:31]
Merbster	Yes. I will do that one day I am bored ;)	[11:32]
ricks99	lol. right. when there's nothing to do. :0	[11:32]
Merbster	fat chance of that happenin'	[11:33]
fabricius	hmm Merbster, what did you mean here: "[09:08] <Merbster> fabricius, have you encounted that the logo mudle only displays in the module admin page?" ??	[11:45]
Merbster	fabricius, I wrote some stuff beneath it, that elaborates on my cryptic sentence :)	[11:45]
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Merbster	I solved it, it is what we call "An error 40" - because the error is about 40 cm from the screen	[11:46]
fabricius	mudle problems 40 cm from the screen? I do not understand at all	[11:47]
ricks99	LOL we call that a PICNIC error (problem in chair -- not in computer)	[11:47]
fabricius	I think Merbster I do understand the sentence now, but not the context hahahahahaaaaaa	[11:48]
Merbster	fabricius, mudle was a typo for Module typo = mistyping on keyboard	[11:48]
fabricius	so an error 40 is a PICNIC error	[11:48]
Merbster	Yes	[11:48]
fabricius	jo jo, I got it now I just have been sitting on the transferring wire	[11:48]
Merbster	I had disabled the top bar in Look & Feel - and was wondering why nothing appeared in the top bar	[11:49]
ricks99	ricks99 is amazed sometimes at how well we all understand each other, considering the language and cultural barriers.	[11:49]
Merbster	generally I am amazed by tiki community take a look at #mysql or #php people there are alot more hostile	[11:50]
fabricius	fabricius dressed his politest face and shakes ricks99 's hand	[11:50]
ricks99	ricks99 "high-fives" back to fabricius	[11:50]
fabricius	clap	[11:51]
luciash	LOL	[11:52]
fabricius	Merbster: I guess the code of Jonny might adress much of the Areas / perspective binder idea	[11:53]
Merbster	Some of it yes.	[11:53]
fabricius	Some Merbster: have a look at the early stage of a site, that might become quite big compared to the projects I am on since: Merbster: http://go-man.wiki4.me - just a provisional Domain - language is not so important, just take 1 or 2 minutes and click through (actually I am just working on menumodules right now) I hope, I will get the menuitem button flipping until tonight next step is to provide editors with easy wikipage creation and editing environment - not yet so much enduserfocused for the next two weeks	[11:53]
luciash	menumudles right ? ;)	[11:57]
fabricius	yupi menumudles adressed to categories	[11:57]
sylvieg	is phpunit running for somebody? I have tons of errors (perhaps because now I need to run it in the root and no miore in lib/test)	[11:58]
fabricius	without perspectives sylvieg: sorry, no	[11:58]
luciash	sylvieg: phpunit ? what'đ that ? ;)	[11:58]
Merbster	fabricius, looks ok I like the theme. But I see no drop down menues etc.	[11:59]
fabricius	luciash, Merbster: what I find very nice since Tiki 7 (this is 8-trunk) is the possibility to have extra mudles and modles left and right of the fixed width header (so extra Admin and Editor specific mudles out of the sight of the original website)	[12:00]
Merbster	hahaha	[12:01]
fabricius	Merbster: yes, I know - I didn't yet set the subnavigation up (today, tomorrow?)	[12:01]
luciash	:)	[12:02]
Merbster	mudles. it certainly is friday!	[12:02]
fabricius	and modles and definitely after lunch!	[12:02]
luciash	luciash can imagine something like this for tiki	[12:03]
fabricius	Merbster, luciash: I had to fix the subnavigation for this theme (same base jqui.css) on another site (Tiki 7.2 SVN Branches) and only now I can go on with the subnavi	[12:04]
ricks99	luciash: we're halfway there with the tiki theme generator stuff	[12:05]
luciash	fabricius: well done	[12:05]
fabricius	but I need more input and discussion from my project collegues - will do a menupagemodule first thx luciash	[12:05]
luciash	ricks99: hmm, halfway ... maybe 1/4 way	[12:05]
ricks99	1/3	[12:05]
luciash	:)	[12:05]
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fabricius	Merbster: nice that the theme suits you aswell	[12:05]
ricks99	ricks99 is more of a "glass half full" guy	[12:06]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: are you able to run phpunit? I have tons of errors (perhaps because now I need to run it in tiki root)	[12:06]
fabricius	ricks99: at least there is s.th. in the glass ricks99: so we are not running dry	[12:06]
ricks99	:)	[12:07]
lphuberdeau	sylvieg, it has to run from lib/test	[12:07]
fabricius	ricks99: and everything finished (what never will happen anyway) would be boring	[12:07]
lphuberdeau	I had a bunch of notices yesterday causing errors, but most tests worked	[12:07]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: but I have ou need setup a new database, install Tiki on it and create a local.php file for the test suite inside /home/sg/www/html/trunk/lib/test	[12:08]
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lphuberdeau	just write the configs in db/local.php, I think it will install tiki itself nowdays	[12:08]
fabricius	luciash: in wich context you could imagine the above for Tiki?	[12:09]
luciash	hey, guys and gals, what do you think... is setting up a pretty tracker taking me 3 hours reasonable time to spent ?	[12:09]
lphuberdeau	luciash, depends on the tracker	[12:09]
ricks99	...and how pretty	[12:10]
luciash	fabricius: either integrating something like that flexible into tiki theme generator or providing extra service generating zip of the theme for tiki ricks99: pretty nice ;)	[12:10]
Merbster	luciash, I have spent ac ouple of days on pretty trackers (but those involved javascript and custom PHP code to deliver data to the JS)	[12:11]
luciash	what slowed me down was actually the fact to realize that when i have text field with prepended and appended stuff, there is no easy way to display that in pretty tracker, so i have had to remove them again (they get annoyingly surrounded by <span class="somecrap">...</span>)	[12:12]
Merbster	luciash, what do you mean? - have you appended stuff to the values of the fields?	[12:13]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: what do you mean by 'write the configs in db/local.php'? I tried to create a db/local.php in lib/test - not better	[12:13]
luciash	Merbster: text field type has options for it to preppend and append something to the field	[12:14]
sylvieg	I have 8 failures in proposals/6x. - but at least it is running	[12:14]
fabricius	luciash: a theming service is definitely what we need for Tiki - are you considering to come to TikiFestDesign? I try to save enoughmoney for the flight	[12:15]
Merbster	luciash, hmm I wasn't aware. Can it be done conditionally?	[12:15]
luciash	Merbster: so my fields ended up as <span class="some..."><h2></span>Foo<span class="some...youknowwhat"></h2></span>	[12:16]
Merbster	urgh	[12:16]
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Merbster	luciash, I have good experience using the JQ plugin to pre-fill fields and show/hide elements	[12:16]
luciash	fabricius: sure Merbster: yup, with jQuery it's easy... but this is something else	[12:16]
lphuberdeau	sylvieg, it's just local.php in lib/test, there is a .dist file as a sample even	[12:17]
sylvieg	humm I have .dist in lib/test	[12:19]
lphuberdeau	that's a sample file	[12:21]
sylvieg	I have no such file in lib/test - no comments in README other thatn the doc http://dev.tiki.org/Tiki+Unit+Testing - nothing in the doc... perhaps something has not been committed - or my local is messy...	[12:21]
luciash	Merbster: it could be useful for fields like Your Price: $ [ ] USD, but not for stuff like i needed (to highlight some fields in the tracker listing)	[12:22]
sylvieg	humm svn cleanup and I can see the file .. strange - THanks lphuberdeau	[12:23]
Merbster	luciash, I haven't had that usecase. - yet :P	[12:24]
luciash	Merbster: e.g. ,60,<h2>,</h2>,255,y it looks good at the first sight but totally unusable in pretty trackers and horrible when you inspect the code (because of the spans)	[12:24]
Merbster	ok. hmm I'd like to know hwo you solved it but I am on my way home catch you another time? :)	[12:25]
luciash	np i solved it by removing it from the options :-p	[12:26]
Merbster	have a nice weekend guys	[12:26]
luciash	nice weekend to you too	[12:26]
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luciash	lucky guy ending 14:25 his work day :)	[12:27]
lphuberdeau	you should see how early I can finish mine sometimes	[12:28]
luciash	lphuberdeau: heh, you mean work whole night until friday morning ?	[12:29]
lphuberdeau	nah, I never work overnight	[12:29]
luciash	weird :)	[12:29]
lphuberdeau	gave that up in college when I realized any output my brain had during that period was worth nothing	[12:30]
luciash	i gave up my countless tries to wake up early in the morning :-p	[12:31]
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luciash	i don't get why my regex validation of tracker text field is not working: ^dl[0-9]+$ ??? the doc says i don't have to input the leading and ending "/"	[12:49]
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luciash	i input dd there, and it doesn't say nothing against... when i add the "/", then it yells at every input, even dl123 wb jonnyb	[12:52]
jonnyb	:)	[12:53]
luciash	jonnyb: ever used regex validation for tracker text field ?	[12:54]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03gillesm * r37580 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: This feature allow to click on the last exact refefer in the tiki-referer_stats.php to see the exaxt localization of referer. tikiwiki: The URL is openend in a blank page tikiwiki: The tiki_referer_stats got a new column lasturl containing the exact URL.	[12:56]
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RobertPlummer	Polom tiki devs	[13:02]
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fabricius	wolod RobertPlummer hi jonnyb jonnyb: did you read the message regarding the "not in category" parameter? I think it is not yet working have tried it in a brand new trunk installation i know you are busy - just want to let you know I can work with just "only in category" for a while ;-) very handy this new coded parameter, very very handy	[13:02]
luciash	hi RobertPlummer	[13:07]
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RobertPlummer	luciash . fabricius polom	[13:07]
fabricius	RobertPlummer: you might contribute extending Tiki cart to a shop?	[13:09]
RobertPlummer	fabricius: I would like to help. fabricius: I mean if we don't use each other's experience, what is the point of working together?	[13:09]
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luciash	of course, the regex doesn't validate, because there was a bug :-/	[13:17]
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luciash	fix on the way	[13:18]
fabricius	RobertPlummer: absolutely	[13:22]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37581 10/trunk/lib/core/WikiParser/PluginMatcher.php: [FIX]parsing: better fix to 37550 37176 - works with test StressTest and with pages with a lot of plugins	[13:36]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: I hope this commit is working this time - it does not break the tests and works for me	[13:37]
lphuberdeau	will look at it soon	[13:38]
sylvieg	the idea is to say - if I have a successful match at the first level - it is done forever... no idea if it is useful I commit a test for my problematic page...	[13:40]
lphuberdeau	did you run all parser tests?	[13:43]
sylvieg	only wikiParser .. I have bugs in phpunit . I do not jknow how to fix ... yet Fatal error: Call to a member function check_script() on a non-object in /home/sg/www/html/test/tikitrunkfresh/lib/setup/error_reporting.php on line 11 in the rating test ... I have no idea how to fix this one...	[13:44]
lphuberdeau	if all the plugin parser related tests pass, it means all the expected behaviors work	[13:46]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37583 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackeritemfield.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Plugins should not return false. Not a valid return. Using the cental tikiwiki: permission checks. The ones in here were not the same as everywhere else. tikiwiki: Combined with the return false, this lead to plugin syntax appearing on tikiwiki: dev.tiki.org when displaying wishes	[13:49]
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RobertPlummer	I'm wondering, why haven't we migrated to an apps/folder approach in tiki? Has anyone thought about this? for instance: tiki/app/invoice/list.php	[14:16]
luciash	RobertPlummer: for historical reasons	[14:18]
RobertPlummer	luciash: perhaps it is time to think about it for tiki 9 after we branch?	[14:18]
luciash	RobertPlummer: it would be too much overhaul, it was becoming a fork of tiki like that once already	[14:18]
RobertPlummer	It would really clean up naming conventions atec. etc luciash: Can we start with new apps like invoice to do that?	[14:18]
luciash	RobertPlummer: i don't know, u'd need to ask others, i cannot decide that	[14:19]
RobertPlummer	ok It would be kinda cool for an apps like structure. Meanings apps that are mostly template driven, that can be dropped in place from other vendors. It is night that tiki is so tightly integrated, but that doesn't mean that it can't have apps/plugins. nice	[14:19]
jonnyb	RobertPlummer: i think that's what LP has been doing in lib/core for new stuff - libs and services anyway. Tiki always has a problem with the base href (which i've tried to fix a few times) so it was easier to leave any browser accessible files in the root	[14:27]
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nkoth\|nelson	hi, is there a tiki feature where a user can invite a certain number of their friends to tiki in a imilar way Google roll out google+ ?	[15:28]
sylvieg	the field user subscription in tracker?	[15:29]
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fabricius	nkoth - oh yes, good idea, that could be useful for me in about 4 to 8 weeks aswell nkoth\|nelson: kind of registration after invitation	[15:45]
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nkoth\|nelson	sylvieg: thanks, it is not exactly fitting the bill, but may be possible. do you mean I create a tracker , say "invited users"?	[15:50]
sylvieg	but the max is by event .. not user..	[15:51]
nkoth\|nelson	problem is that the invitation here is to register to the site (so the invitees are not registered yet)	[15:52]
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sylvieg	thre ris the invite feature - that do the registration but there is no max...	[15:52]
nkoth\|nelson	I suppose I can add the max part to it	[15:55]
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sylvieg	nkoth\|nelson: should be ok the good part is that it manages already all the registration process	[15:59]
nkoth\|nelson	yes	[16:01]
sylvieg	but do you want a max on the people who are invited or people who register will be great to have the notion og max user in a group...	[16:02]
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nkoth\|nelson	I am trying to see if I should commit a change to trklib->list_tracker_fields and not sure what to commit basically my quesiton is whether trackerId is mandatory for that function.... if missing, what should it do?	[16:23]
jonnyb	how can it make sense if the tracker id's unknown?	[16:24]
nkoth\|nelson	riht now I think it returns all fields, which doesn't make sense right? actually it white screens when non-admin I could also leave it as it is - but just trying to make it more robust	[16:24]
jonnyb	sounds like it should generate an error	[16:26]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37591 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [REF] simile_timeline: Move JS into a static JS library tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37592 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerif.php: [FIX] Prevent white screen when error reporting is not on to catch error due to missing trackerId	[16:33]
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RobertPlummer	Question about wiki plugins.... I have a wiki plugin that makes a request back to the server once loaded through the wiki page, it is dates based. so I have request params "start" and "end" Then I make the request back to the page, the plugin params are set from the request variables only if they request variables have been set. nevermind, I figured it out.	[17:35]
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sylvieg	in trunk I have admin_tracker_fields that do not show anymore the fields	[18:22]
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sylvieg	and the 'Clear Errors? remarkbox does not want to go away	[18:22]
lphuberdeau	check if the request has an error in firebug	[18:22]
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sylvieg	tiki-admin_tracker_fields is almost empty	[18:25]
lphuberdeau	yes	[18:26]
sylvieg	so where the list of fields come from? do you do a ajax stuff?	[18:27]
lphuberdeau	plenty	[18:27]
fabricius	grrrr I have the same problem in the same base theme than yesterday for a different website and can't remember how I solved it	[18:27]
sylvieg	so what will happens with people with no javascript .. disbale ..	[18:27]
lphuberdeau	in this century? c'mon	[18:28]
luciash	disabled people	[18:28]
lphuberdeau	modern browsers work just fine for disabled people	[18:28]
luciash	i believe blind ppl still need no js / ajax for their readers	[18:29]
lphuberdeau	reader works on rendered pages	[18:29]
sylvieg	there is a typo soemwhere tiki-tracker-list_field is missing .php	[18:29]
luciash	ok, i didn't studied latest situation i must admit	[18:29]
lphuberdeau	and this is an admin interface anyway, I take the no-js argument more seriously when it's about bots not being able to index the content	[18:29]
luciash	yup yup	[18:30]
lphuberdeau	not a typo sylvieg, that's a rewrite rule	[18:30]
luciash	admin should be ok (no phun intended)	[18:30]
sylvieg	a rewrite rule ... where?	[18:31]
lphuberdeau	ultimately, lib/core/Services/Tracker/Controller.php action_list_fields() is called	[18:31]
fabricius	luciash: do you remember the solution for my hover issue yesterday?	[18:32]
lphuberdeau	_htaccess file, might be good to update if you have an old one	[18:32]
fabricius	I should have commented it in the css	[18:32]
luciash	fabricius: nope, i didn't follow when chibaguy was helping you here fabricius: but you can check the irc logs	[18:33]
fabricius	yupi just hoped	[18:34]
sylvieg	my htaccess is sync - but no progress	[18:34]
luciash	irc.tiki.org	[18:34]
sylvieg	... will go in 7	[18:34]
lphuberdeau	sylvieg, open firebug and refresh the page	[18:35]
sylvieg	4040 not found sorry 404	[18:36]
lphuberdeau	any more details?	[18:36]
sylvieg	params are ok.... header ok..	[18:39]
lphuberdeau	what does the body of the 404 contain?	[18:39]
sylvieg	so now I can not type in my browser the url localhost/tiki-tracker_list_fields?trackerId=17 ?	[18:40]
fabricius	luciash: I think, I am getting there luciash: just remembered, what chibaguy told me	[18:40]
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sylvieg	{"code":"404","errortitle":"Page cannot be found","message":"Page cannot be found (404)","page":"tiki-tracker-list_fields"}	[18:40]
lphuberdeau	tiki-tracker_admin_fields.php?trackerId=17	[18:40]
fabricius	luciash: what you do for a, do for a:hover aswell (or similar)	[18:41]
lphuberdeau	really looks like you are missing a rewrite rule	[18:41]
sylvieg	in my .htaccess?	[18:41]
lphuberdeau	line 147 and 148 in _htaccess	[18:41]
sylvieg	humm .htaccess and _htaccess are not in svn	[18:44]
lphuberdeau	yes they are... _htaccess is, not .htaccess	[18:44]
sylvieg	I have problem with this branch .. already this morning :-( time for a fresh install	[18:44]
lphuberdeau	get a clean check-out tiki has enough bugs, no need for more introduced by a mixed-up svn	[18:45]
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nkoth\|nelson	lphuberdeau: waht is the easiest way to get the language of a tracker item from within trackerlib?	[19:55]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37601 10/trunk/lib/setup/user_prefs.php: [FIX]default_group: default_group is used in php code too	[19:58]
lphuberdeau	$definition->getLanguageField() that gives you the field id to look in if anything	[19:59]
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nkoth\|nelson	then I have to get a language? ok. There is nothing in Tiki that is centralized to find out if any object has any lang attached to it right? unless it's been translated?	[20:00]
lphuberdeau	read the value from the field, depends on what you have available from there lib/core/Services/Language/Utilities.php has some bits used by the manage translation UI	[20:00]
nkoth\|nelson	ok thanks lphuberdeau	[20:02]
luciash	afaik tracker items cannot be localized, only tracker fields can be multilingual	[20:02]
nkoth\|nelson	in trunk, they can...	[20:02]
lphuberdeau	luciash, that would be a wrong thing to know	[20:02]
luciash	ah, nice, in trunk	[20:02]
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sylvieg	lphuberdeau: I confirmed it was my svn that was not ok - Working fine in a fresh instal - sorry where do I say a field is Main now? or is it changed for the field value is in the title of the item?	[21:02]
	:-( ok I need to save the field and then I can change inthe list ......	[21:13]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: I have 800 records and unified search is nearing 30 minutes... There has to be a better way. To index I mean.	[21:14]
sylvieg	but when I change in the field table list... ... there is no way to save the modification going back to 7	[21:15]
lphuberdeau	robert, depends on the machine but yes, zend lucene is not super-fast at indexing generally	[21:17]
sylvieg	my 6000 files - are done in 40mn - not so bad	[21:18]
lphuberdeau	doc.t.o indexes in less than 5 minutes last numbers I had, and that's 1000+ pages desktop systems are a bad benchmark because disk managers are optimized for long streaming	[21:21]
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sylvieg	lphuberdeau: some changes have been made in 7 .. the title of an item (the stuff you see in the browser tiel and search) before it was the first listed (main) field value - now it is all listed/main values .. I know that the notion of 'contribute to the title' ias missing	[21:27]
lphuberdeau	actually, there were two ways to do it depending on where from, I picked the one in get_isMain_value which is now called for this purpose in most places	[21:28]
sylvieg	isMainavlue is for 'I display it in the table' but what about the browser title a lot of historical reason it should not be a field property but a tracker property - the name of the item if f_xxx hello f_555	[21:31]
lphuberdeau	most likely, yes, feel free to implement it	[21:32]
sylvieg	I am still with complain in 6 the behavior changed ;-)	[21:33]
lphuberdeau	lots of behaviors changed in trackers	[21:33]
sylvieg	:-) almost all my customers use computed fields	[21:33]
lphuberdeau	mostly because it was not always the same one, or not the same code, although most humans would not see a difference in the output they still work, they are just disabled by default	[21:34]
sylvieg	but thx lph to have the strength to merge all the duplications	[21:35]
lphuberdeau	it's mostly about cleaning one up and destroying the others, I didn't do so much merging I'm quite happy with the permissions now	[21:35]
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sylvieg	btw did you change the visibleBy/editableBy based on the default_group with in_group ... too many commits - I am not folowing..	[21:37]
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lphuberdeau	it's based on all groups the user is in	[21:41]
sylvieg	nice shift	[21:41]
lphuberdeau	rules are quite easy to read now, and they are in a single file	[21:42]
sylvieg	which file?	[21:43]
lphuberdeau	lib/core/Tracker/Item.php	[21:44]
sylvieg	do not ask me why it was triplicated since the beginning	[21:44]
lphuberdeau	my favorite part was that in general, isHidden was treated in the php, and visibleBy/editableBy was treated in the template	[21:44]
luciash	fast development i guess	[21:44]
lphuberdeau	however, there was some overlap in a few cases	[21:45]
sylvieg	or 2 different developpers	[21:45]
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lphuberdeau	well, the edit parts only handled in the template is technically a security hole	[21:45]
sylvieg	why?	[21:46]
lphuberdeau	you can forge the request and get the data through without validation	[21:46]
sylvieg	needs to think about that	[21:47]
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