I'm going to write my own custom sort function for now until I upgrade to 5.3
nkoth|nelson: non-UTF-8 en_US does not help?
chealer, no any locale sort ignores punctuation. php has a collation class in 5.3 that can set the rules to ignore certain things or not, but undortunately I am not in 5.3
it'll be nice that we can use that if 5.3 though
nkoth|nelson: even C?
C works but does not take into account accent
(non-UTF-8 C)
C takes into acccount punctuation but not accent...
in the meantime I hack back into my copy of tiki uksort by a function that use take_away_accent
I suppose the proper solution is to upgrade to php 5.3 and use the collation object
I mean the collator class: http://php.net/manual/en/class.collator.php
chealer, do you think this should be an optional feature  until tiki 9 (php5.3)?
nkoth|nelson: do you have root access?
yes
nkoth|nelson: could you try generating C.UTF-8? It seems to work here
ok sure, how to generate that?
nkoth|nelson: I know the Debian way (# dpkg-reconfigure locales) but no idea about the CentOS way
nkoth|nelson: see locale-gen and /etc/locale.gen
i have to try later. have to eat
natively it should be locale-gen
nkoth|nelson: interesting. the other problem with Collator is that it is part of the intl extension
nkoth|nelson: if what should be an optional feature? using Collator?
I was thinking the take_away_accent version
which for some reason is still not giving me the result I expect
it's closer, but for some reason [ sorts before a
nkoth|nelson: try also commenting the setlocale LC_ALL 
or to set LC_COLLATE to C
nkoth|nelson: I don't think Tiki 9 can depend on Collator, Tiki 9 won't require PHP 5.3 and I'm not sure we can really depend on the intl extension
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nkoth|nelson: C does not give a good sort in non-English-only environments, so I don't think we should use it by default and in that case take_away_accent() won't help
(with your sort overriding)
it is closer than using any version of locale sort
nkoth|nelson: OK, maybe categories should optionally use locale sort and use take_away_accent(). I have no idea of how many installs want specific sorts of categories
s/optionally use/optionally not use/
that is, maybe that would be better than what we currently have
i think locale sort can be the default
and takeawayaccent sort as an option.
Let me try to get my overriding done and I will commi tth eoption
becaue I rememebr [ used to work before - something must have changed
I clearly used - to make it go on top and [ to make it go at the end
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37857 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: 
tikiwiki: [TRA] just wanted to see, how 100% looks like :)
tikiwiki: -- Diese und diek folgenden Zeilen werden ignoriert --
tikiwiki: M de/language.php
oeversetten: I think you're doing something wrong when you commit, your commit messages contain the line which I think says anything below that line will be ignored
oeversetten: you must be using svn on the command line?
yes i do
and i have to figure out how to change the editor
that joe editor is weird
oeversetten: if you're on Debian, it's easy
chealer: ok i have what I need , now to make the feature option and I can commit it
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37858 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: [TRA] there was an a lost...
chealer. are you sure punctuation is considered when ising C.UTF-8?
nkoth|nelson: I really don't know much how various locales collate, but in C.UTF-8 punctuation appears to have a good precedence
ok
chealer: what does http://ido.ath.cx:8080 have? because the accented A is at the end
moreover ,the lower case starting ones come after the uper case ones, so looks like it is just C right now
nkoth|nelson: good question. I noticed the sort is weird
it should be C.UTF-8
well then it's not taking effect to sort in case insensitive or accents
anyway, I will commit my feature first
nkoth|nelson: yeah, it's C.UTF-8
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37859 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Make feature to put back some legacy functionality that might be needed for category name sorting after r37015
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37860 10/trunk/lib/prefs/category.php: Admin categories: Clarify the purpose of category_sort_ascii
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37861 10/trunk/lib/prefs/category.php: [FIX] oops
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37862 10/trunk/lib/tree/tree.php: [REF] TreeMaker: change make_tree_r() visibility to protected
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37863 10/trunk/lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php: [REF] CatBrowseTreeMaker: remove itemID (appears unused from r35336)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37864 10/trunk/lib/tree/tree.php: [REF] Declare TreeMaker as abstract
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37865 10/trunk/lib/ (jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tree/categ_browse_tree.php): [REF] generalize categ_browse_tree() to browse_tree
hi & polom tikiverse
polom
hi oeverstetten: how would I activte your areas feature?
feature admin panel or areas admin panel
on the latter one I add a short how to setup remarksbox
uh, and since i did not tag it, you have to check Advanced in the feature filter to see it
polom
what's the area feature?
hi all
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37866 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX]setup: post_max_size must be changed if upload_max_filesize is changed
philback: the areas feature is the built-in version from what is aka perspective_binder
mmmh, I am not using these... will have a look to expand my horizons.
see http://dev.tiki.org/item3974-3974&highlight=areas for a short description, if i find the time i'll try to refresh the documentation on it
@oversetten Oookay. Doesn't tell me much. Thx anyway.
is v8 frozen? Is there alredy a new trunk?
don't know
quit
now, it interests me, too, is branching already in progress?
some dev list mails stated something like now as branching is done...
so no commit till tomorrow?
but on dev.tiki.org/get+code is trunk still future 8
no idea, chealer should know this
the schedule says "as late in the day as possible" referring to today, so something like 11pm but in which timezone :D
oeversetten: i hope it is US :)
Title for the module "sitemycode" with trunk using "notitle=y" is not working for me, same setting is ok with tw6 and tw7. anyone has that too ?
which US?
oeversetten: well anyway −7hours from us. ;)
would be fine, so I can ask for a further commit, that I have unfortunately done for 7.x only... and would like to see it in 8, too
-7h is hope. i have some work to do too before commiting
i found my commit to 7.x so i just have to see what i have changed there :)
can you shortly test if pretty registration tracker works in trunk?
oeversetten: sorry but really running out of time here...
tiki trunk behaves odd at registration
*shortly before adding enhancement analogue to r37532*
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37867 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] see r37532 now in trunk
polom
polom
polom
is the category browser broken in trunk?
tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37868 10/trunk/lang/he/language.js: [FIX]Hebrew language translation completed
tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37869 10/trunk/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css: [FIX]Wide fix for BiDi to handle rtl languages
coaboa: it shouldn't be, but I played around that yesterday... could be
chealer: its after activating the feature areas. importing a database dump from bofore activating that fature fixed the issue
coaboa: I see...
also activating araes caused to inifinitely be asked to fix database by rerun the installe (excecuted 5 queries)
*areas
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37870 10/trunk/styles/ (jqui/options/element.css layout/layout.css): [FIX] css: Make divs inside accordions auto width to stop breaking out on the right, and remove 0 line-height for jqui/element menus
chealer just realizet i a wrong: going back to revision 37854 - category browser worked. r37866 category browser does not work
coaboa: odd, the areas patch worked fine here
coaboa: does refreshing browser cache help?
nope. but myabe its one of the others. rollback also changed tree/tree.php & tree/categ_browse_tree.php 
but as I am no coder I can not investigate further 
coaboa: well, identifying a precise revision always helps
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37871 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_timeline.php: 
tikiwiki: [NEW] timeline plugin: Simpler plugin for Simile timeline which gets it's data
tikiwiki: from various types of object lists with one or two date type fields, e.g. the
tikiwiki: output from a {list} plugin or calendar list, etc. Data connections still to do
tikiwiki: (not yet functional).
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37872 10/trunk/ (13 files in 6 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [REF] Generalize CatBrowseTreeMaker to BrowseTreeMaker
tikiwiki: [REF] FileGalLib: rename getTreePhplayers() to getTree and getFilegalsTreePhplayers() to getFilegalsTree
tikiwiki: [REF][ENH] File galleries module: use getSubGalleries() to get tree nodes, giving back a phpLayers-like tree
tikiwiki: [REF] FileGalLib: Remove now unused _buildTreePhplayers(), just generate path from getTree() instead
tikiwiki: [REF] Various (Smarty tree)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37873 10/trunk/lib/tree/tree.php: [REF] TreeMaker: improve documentation for make_tree()
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37874 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Sort strings more sensibly, with same letters (accented or not) grouped. C.UTF-8 wouldn't do that
tikiwiki: r37015 regression, oops. Thanks Nelson Ko
 New Forum Posts: inscription de nouveau utilisateur - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=42384
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37875 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: [TRA] 100% again :)
coaboa: could you check if your problem persists?
chealer yo mean when using r37873/73
mom svn upping
chealer: happy now ;-) category admin works again thx
coaboa: yes. good, sorry and thanks anyway
chealer: the file lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php caused that?
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37876 10/trunk/lib/ (filegals/filegallib.php smarty_tiki/function.tree.php): 
tikiwiki: [REF] Smarty tree: remove top node definition, never shown
tikiwiki: FileGalLib: fix description of getSubGalleries() for $wholeSpecialGallery=true case (from r32331)
coaboa: I don't know. I don't know what your problem was
oki 
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37877 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [REF] Zend Code Styling - http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/violations
when will 8 be frozen? or when will trunk become 8 and trunk future 9?
just to make sure not to svn up trunk to trunk of 9
normaly tonight
cool so I would have svn switch trunk to 8 tomorrow prior svn upping
coaboa: it will just go back if you switch later
but in theory, it's best to switch before
svn switch indeed
 New Forum Posts: Folding Editor? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=42385
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37878 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [REF] generate_cat_tree(): remove an if() (useless from r31423)
polom everybody
Hi Torsten
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37879 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] generate_cat_tree(): "Undefined index: incat"
hi Bernard1 
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37880 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] Restore "File Galleries" at the beginning of paths (oops, r37876 regression)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37881 10/trunk/tiki-listpages.php: [FIX] Pages: "Undefined variable: find_langOrphan"
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37882 10/trunk/tiki-listpages.php: [FIX] Pages: "Undefined variable: find_lang"
hicheler
hi chealer, butsy fixing?
nkoth|nelson: more or less
how are you?
good. should we be preparing to create the 8.x branch soon?
nkoth|nelson: yes. I was planning to do it tonight but I never did it
...so hopefully the script will work :-)
same here -  I'm around
thanks
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37883 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [REF] Zend Code Styling - http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/violations
chealer: which script are you using  ?
hi changi|ffa. http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Create_a_branch_if_you_are_releasing_a_major_version says it should be svnbranch.php
chealer: it will work :)
chealer: you can do it by hand using svn copy if you want
great
nkoth|nelson: I diverted to find.tpl issues because I found a problem in the list of categories there. some are blank
like the [Test] category appears blank
list where?
how much time before 8.x ?
nkoth|nelson: for example in listpages
the category filter
tikiwiki: 03jyhem * r37884 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: match instruction to button label
chealer, interesting, did you fix it?
I think I'm on it, there were hundreds of notices at the start, but I cleaned most and I see some suspicious ones now
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37885 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] "Undefined variable: find_cat_categories" (replace find_cat_categories with findSelectedCategoriesNumber, which just contains a count)
gn 
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37886 10/trunk/ (4 files): [FIX] "Undefined index: cat_categories". oops
by coaboa|afk 
sylvieg: hi - did you come further with the newsletter stuff?
tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37887 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [REF] Zend Code Styling - http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/violations
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37888 10/trunk/ (4 files): 
tikiwiki: [REF] find.tpl categories setup code
tikiwiki: [FIX] Do not alter $_REQUEST['cat_categories']. Fixes loss of category filter if one category is selected in multiple mode
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37889 10/trunk/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] When archive comments feature is on, comments and forum replies not appearing because erroneously considered archived from the start
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37890 10/branches/7.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [bp/r37889][FIX] When archive comments feature is on, comments and forum replies not appearing because erroneously considered archived from the start
hey everyone. problem = my homepage is set to the blog being the home page. but i get an error "blog not found". I have realized that the main blog has an "blogid=2", which works but "blogid=0" does not work.
jneusteter: what version of tiki are you using?
6.4
lts
testing
the site is linuxbasix.com
in tiki-admin.php?page=general, what does the "Use feature as homepage" say?
i do not have an option ""Use feature as homepage" 
unde rthe navigation tab
"Use Tiki feature as homepage"
ok there it is, what we have set is "Blog:Set blogs homepage first"
ok, go to tiki-admin.php, click on Blogs, there, select the Blog home page, and then save
comment in line seems to be broken in trunk - work like a charm in 6 but not in trunk
ok, there is a setting "Home Blog (main blog): but i have only one option which is "Linuxbasix Blog"
sure, just save it
then go back to General and check what it says now
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37891 10/trunk/lang/nds/language.php: [TRA] few more strings
tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37892 10/trunk/lang/he/language.php: [TRA] hebrew translation progress
nkoth|nelson: i just got kicked from the channel
not sure if made any posts while i was gone
basically all I said was "just save it and go back to General and check what it says now". YOu can then save it again once it says "Blog:Linuxbasix Blog"
nice, you just made me quite happy. its works
you're welcome
jneusteter: btw, any reason why you have a phpbb forum (is it because you set that up before you got the tiki?)
well, its was a lack of understanding about tiki wiki. i installed tiki-wiki and phpbb at the same time. then realized the potential of tiki wiki. now im making the "tiki wiki the home page
ah ok.
now im wondering how the phpbb auth will work with tiki wiki
not sure. I haven't tried it myself but it is documented: http://doc.tiki.org/phpBB+Authentication (you need phpbb 3 apparently)