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nkoth|nelsonI'm going to write my own custom sort function for now until I upgrade to 5.3 [00:03]
chealernkoth|nelson: non-UTF-8 en_US does not help? [00:16]
nkoth|nelsonchealer, no any locale sort ignores punctuation. php has a collation class in 5.3 that can set the rules to ignore certain things or not, but undortunately I am not in 5.3
it'll be nice that we can use that if 5.3 though 		[00:17]
chealernkoth|nelson: even C? [00:18]
nkoth|nelsonC works but does not take into account accent [00:18]
chealer(non-UTF-8 C) [00:18]
nkoth|nelsonC takes into acccount punctuation but not accent...
in the meantime I hack back into my copy of tiki uksort by a function that use take_away_accent
I suppose the proper solution is to upgrade to php 5.3 and use the collation object
I mean the collator class: http://php.net/manual/en/class.collator.php 		[00:19]
chealer, do you think this should be an optional feature until tiki 9 (php5.3)? [00:29]
chealernkoth|nelson: do you have root access? [00:32]
nkoth|nelsonyes [00:32]
chealernkoth|nelson: could you try generating C.UTF-8? It seems to work here [00:33]
nkoth|nelsonok sure, how to generate that? [00:33]
chealernkoth|nelson: I know the Debian way (# dpkg-reconfigure locales) but no idea about the CentOS way
nkoth|nelson: see locale-gen and /etc/locale.gen 		[00:34]
nkoth|nelsoni have to try later. have to eat [00:37]
oeversettennatively it should be locale-gen [00:38]
chealernkoth|nelson: interesting. the other problem with Collator is that it is part of the intl extension
nkoth|nelson: if what should be an optional feature? using Collator? 		[00:47]
nkoth|nelsonI was thinking the take_away_accent version
which for some reason is still not giving me the result I expect
it's closer, but for some reason [ sorts before a 		[00:49]
chealernkoth|nelson: try also commenting the setlocale LC_ALL
or to set LC_COLLATE to C
nkoth|nelson: I don't think Tiki 9 can depend on Collator, Tiki 9 won't require PHP 5.3 and I'm not sure we can really depend on the intl extension 		[00:51]
nkoth|nelsonk [00:53]
chealernkoth|nelson: C does not give a good sort in non-English-only environments, so I don't think we should use it by default and in that case take_away_accent() won't help
(with your sort overriding) 		[00:56]
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nkoth|nelsonit is closer than using any version of locale sort [00:58]
chealernkoth|nelson: OK, maybe categories should optionally use locale sort and use take_away_accent(). I have no idea of how many installs want specific sorts of categories
s/optionally use/optionally not use/
that is, maybe that would be better than what we currently have 		[01:01]
nkoth|nelsoni think locale sort can be the default
and takeawayaccent sort as an option.
Let me try to get my overriding done and I will commi tth eoption 		[01:02]
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nkoth|nelsonbecaue I rememebr [ used to work before - something must have changed
I clearly used - to make it go on top and [ to make it go at the end 		[01:04]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37857 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php:
tikiwiki: [TRA] just wanted to see, how 100% looks like :)
tikiwiki: -- Diese und diek folgenden Zeilen werden ignoriert --
tikiwiki: M de/language.php 		[01:22]
chealeroeversetten: I think you're doing something wrong when you commit, your commit messages contain the line which I think says anything below that line will be ignored
oeversetten: you must be using svn on the command line? 		[01:23]
oeversettenyes i do [01:24]
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oeversettenand i have to figure out how to change the editor
that joe editor is weird 		[01:24]
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chealeroeversetten: if you're on Debian, it's easy [01:33]
nkoth|nelsonchealer: ok i have what I need , now to make the feature option and I can commit it [01:34]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37858 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: [TRA] there was an a lost... [01:37]
nkoth|nelsonchealer. are you sure punctuation is considered when ising C.UTF-8? [01:38]
chealernkoth|nelson: I really don't know much how various locales collate, but in C.UTF-8 punctuation appears to have a good precedence [01:43]
nkoth|nelsonok
chealer: what does http://ido.ath.cx:8080 have? because the accented A is at the end
moreover ,the lower case starting ones come after the uper case ones, so looks like it is just C right now 		[01:43]
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chealernkoth|nelson: good question. I noticed the sort is weird [01:49]
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chealerit should be C.UTF-8 [01:51]
nkoth|nelsonwell then it's not taking effect to sort in case insensitive or accents
anyway, I will commit my feature first 		[01:53]
chealernkoth|nelson: yeah, it's C.UTF-8 [01:57]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37859 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Make feature to put back some legacy functionality that might be needed for category name sorting after r37015 [01:58]
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tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37860 10/trunk/lib/prefs/category.php: Admin categories: Clarify the purpose of category_sort_ascii [02:18]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37862 10/trunk/lib/tree/tree.php: [REF] TreeMaker: change make_tree_r() visibility to protected [05:18]
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37863 10/trunk/lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php: [REF] CatBrowseTreeMaker: remove itemID (appears unused from r35336) [05:23]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37865 10/trunk/lib/ (jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tree/categ_browse_tree.php): [REF] generalize categ_browse_tree() to browse_tree [06:30]
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coaboa|afkhi & polom tikiverse [11:27]
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oeversettenpolom [11:35]
coaboahi oeverstetten: how would I activte your areas feature? [11:37]
oeversettenfeature admin panel or areas admin panel
on the latter one I add a short how to setup remarksbox 		[11:38]
uh, and since i did not tag it, you have to check Advanced in the feature filter to see it [11:45]
philbackpolom
what's the area feature? 		[11:46]
Bernard1hi all [11:47]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r37866 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX]setup: post_max_size must be changed if upload_max_filesize is changed [11:50]
oeversettenphilback: the areas feature is the built-in version from what is aka perspective_binder [11:54]
philbackmmmh, I am not using these... will have a look to expand my horizons. [11:54]
oeversettensee http://dev.tiki.org/item3974-3974&highlight=areas for a short description, if i find the time i'll try to refresh the documentation on it [11:57]
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philback@oversetten Oookay. Doesn't tell me much. Thx anyway. [12:14]
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coaboais v8 frozen? Is there alredy a new trunk? [12:14]
oeversettendon't know [12:17]
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oeversettennow, it interests me, too, is branching already in progress? [12:46]
coaboasome dev list mails stated something like now as branching is done... [12:47]
oeversettenso no commit till tomorrow? [12:48]
coaboabut on dev.tiki.org/get+code is trunk still future 8
no idea, chealer should know this 		[12:48]
oeversettenthe schedule says "as late in the day as possible" referring to today, so something like 11pm but in which timezone :D [12:49]
Bernard1oeversetten: i hope it is US :)
Title for the module "sitemycode" with trunk using "notitle=y" is not working for me, same setting is ok with tw6 and tw7. anyone has that too ? 		[12:51]
oeversettenwhich US? [12:53]
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Bernard1oeversetten: well anyway −7hours from us. ;) [12:54]
oeversettenwould be fine, so I can ask for a further commit, that I have unfortunately done for 7.x only... and would like to see it in 8, too [12:57]
Bernard1-7h is hope. i have some work to do too before commiting [13:02]
oeversetteni found my commit to 7.x so i just have to see what i have changed there :) [13:05]
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oeversettencan you shortly test if pretty registration tracker works in trunk? [13:31]
Bernard1oeversetten: sorry but really running out of time here... [13:38]
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oeversettentiki trunk behaves odd at registration [13:56]
*shortly before adding enhancement analogue to r37532* [14:07]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37867 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] see r37532 now in trunk [14:24]
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chealerpolom [15:00]
coaboapolom [15:02]
Bernard1polom [15:07]
coaboais the category browser broken in trunk? [15:08]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37868 10/trunk/lang/he/language.js: [FIX]Hebrew language translation completed
tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37869 10/trunk/styles/BiDi/BiDi.css: [FIX]Wide fix for BiDi to handle rtl languages 		[15:26]
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chealercoaboa: it shouldn't be, but I played around that yesterday... could be [16:07]
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coaboachealer: its after activating the feature areas. importing a database dump from bofore activating that fature fixed the issue [16:19]
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chealercoaboa: I see... [16:20]
coaboaalso activating araes caused to inifinitely be asked to fix database by rerun the installe (excecuted 5 queries)
*areas 		[16:20]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37870 10/trunk/styles/ (jqui/options/element.css layout/layout.css): [FIX] css: Make divs inside accordions auto width to stop breaking out on the right, and remove 0 line-height for jqui/element menus [16:22]
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coaboachealer just realizet i a wrong: going back to revision 37854 - category browser worked. r37866 category browser does not work [16:37]
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chealercoaboa: odd, the areas patch worked fine here
coaboa: does refreshing browser cache help? 		[16:42]
coaboanope. but myabe its one of the others. rollback also changed tree/tree.php & tree/categ_browse_tree.php
but as I am no coder I can not investigate further 		[16:52]
chealercoaboa: well, identifying a precise revision always helps [16:53]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37871 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_timeline.php:
tikiwiki: [NEW] timeline plugin: Simpler plugin for Simile timeline which gets it's data
tikiwiki: from various types of object lists with one or two date type fields, e.g. the
tikiwiki: output from a {list} plugin or calendar list, etc. Data connections still to do
tikiwiki: (not yet functional). 		[17:11]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37872 10/trunk/ (13 files in 6 dirs):
tikiwiki: [REF] Generalize CatBrowseTreeMaker to BrowseTreeMaker
tikiwiki: [REF] FileGalLib: rename getTreePhplayers() to getTree and getFilegalsTreePhplayers() to getFilegalsTree
tikiwiki: [REF][ENH] File galleries module: use getSubGalleries() to get tree nodes, giving back a phpLayers-like tree
tikiwiki: [REF] FileGalLib: Remove now unused _buildTreePhplayers(), just generate path from getTree() instead
tikiwiki: [REF] Various (Smarty tree)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37873 10/trunk/lib/tree/tree.php: [REF] TreeMaker: improve documentation for make_tree()
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37874 10/trunk/tiki-setup.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Sort strings more sensibly, with same letters (accented or not) grouped. C.UTF-8 wouldn't do that
tikiwiki: r37015 regression, oops. Thanks Nelson Ko 		[17:49]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: inscription de nouveau utilisateur - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=42384 [17:56]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37875 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: [TRA] 100% again :) [18:07]
chealercoaboa: could you check if your problem persists? [18:09]
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coaboachealer yo mean when using r37873/73
mom svn upping 		[18:26]
chealer: happy now ;-) category admin works again thx [18:31]
chealercoaboa: yes. good, sorry and thanks anyway [18:32]
coaboachealer: the file lib/tree/categ_browse_tree.php caused that? [18:32]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37876 10/trunk/lib/ (filegals/filegallib.php smarty_tiki/function.tree.php):
tikiwiki: [REF] Smarty tree: remove top node definition, never shown
tikiwiki: FileGalLib: fix description of getSubGalleries() for $wholeSpecialGallery=true case (from r32331) 		[18:34]
chealercoaboa: I don't know. I don't know what your problem was [18:34]
coaboaoki [18:34]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37877 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [REF] Zend Code Styling - http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/violations [18:37]
coaboawhen will 8 be frozen? or when will trunk become 8 and trunk future 9?
just to make sure not to svn up trunk to trunk of 9 		[18:38]
changi|ffanormaly tonight [18:39]
coaboacool so I would have svn switch trunk to 8 tomorrow prior svn upping [18:40]
chealercoaboa: it will just go back if you switch later
but in theory, it's best to switch before
svn switch indeed 		[18:45]
Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Folding Editor? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=42385 [18:48]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37878 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [REF] generate_cat_tree(): remove an if() (useless from r31423) [18:56]
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fabriciuspolom everybody [19:01]
Bernard1Hi Torsten [19:03]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37879 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] generate_cat_tree(): "Undefined index: incat" [19:08]
fabriciushi Bernard1 [19:09]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37880 10/trunk/lib/filegals/filegallib.php: [FIX] Restore "File Galleries" at the beginning of paths (oops, r37876 regression) [19:18]
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37881 10/trunk/tiki-listpages.php: [FIX] Pages: "Undefined variable: find_langOrphan" [19:28]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37882 10/trunk/tiki-listpages.php: [FIX] Pages: "Undefined variable: find_lang" [19:33]
nkoth|nelsonhicheler
hi chealer, butsy fixing? 		[19:34]
chealernkoth|nelson: more or less
how are you? 		[19:34]
nkoth|nelsongood. should we be preparing to create the 8.x branch soon? [19:35]
chealernkoth|nelson: yes. I was planning to do it tonight but I never did it
...so hopefully the script will work :-) 		[19:36]
nkoth|nelsonsame here - I'm around [19:37]
chealerthanks [19:39]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37883 10/trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [REF] Zend Code Styling - http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/violations [19:47]
changi|ffachealer: which script are you using ? [19:47]
chealerhi changi|ffa. http://dev.tiki.org/How+to+release#Create_a_branch_if_you_are_releasing_a_major_version says it should be svnbranch.php [19:48]
changi|ffachealer: it will work :)
chealer: you can do it by hand using svn copy if you want 		[19:50]
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chealergreat
nkoth|nelson: I diverted to find.tpl issues because I found a problem in the list of categories there. some are blank
like the [Test] category appears blank 		[19:56]
nkoth|nelsonlist where? [20:09]
Bernard1how much time before 8.x ? [20:18]
chealernkoth|nelson: for example in listpages
the category filter 		[20:26]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03jyhem * r37884 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: match instruction to button label [20:26]
nkoth|nelsonchealer, interesting, did you fix it? [20:27]
chealerI think I'm on it, there were hundreds of notices at the start, but I cleaned most and I see some suspicious ones now [20:27]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37885 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] "Undefined variable: find_cat_categories" (replace find_cat_categories with findSelectedCategoriesNumber, which just contains a count) [20:35]
coaboagn [20:41]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37886 10/trunk/ (4 files): [FIX] "Undefined index: cat_categories". oops [20:42]
fabriciusby coaboa|afk
sylvieg: hi - did you come further with the newsletter stuff? 		[20:43]
CIA-12tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r37887 10/trunk/lib/parser/parserlib.php: [REF] Zend Code Styling - http://quality.tiki.org/job/Tikitrunk/violations [20:45]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37888 10/trunk/ (4 files):
tikiwiki: [REF] find.tpl categories setup code
tikiwiki: [FIX] Do not alter $_REQUEST['cat_categories']. Fixes loss of category filter if one category is selected in multiple mode 		[21:21]
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37889 10/trunk/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [FIX] When archive comments feature is on, comments and forum replies not appearing because erroneously considered archived from the start
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r37890 10/branches/7.x/lib/comments/commentslib.php: [bp/r37889][FIX] When archive comments feature is on, comments and forum replies not appearing because erroneously considered archived from the start 		[21:27]
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jneusteterhey everyone. problem = my homepage is set to the blog being the home page. but i get an error "blog not found". I have realized that the main blog has an "blogid=2", which works but "blogid=0" does not work. [21:59]
nkoth|nelsonjneusteter: what version of tiki are you using? [22:00]
jneusteter6.4
lts 		[22:01]
nkoth|nelsontesting [22:05]
jneusteterthe site is linuxbasix.com [22:08]
nkoth|nelsonin tiki-admin.php?page=general, what does the "Use feature as homepage" say? [22:11]
jneusteteri do not have an option ""Use feature as homepage" [22:14]
nkoth|nelsonunde rthe navigation tab [22:15]
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nkoth|nelson"Use Tiki feature as homepage" [22:16]
jneusteterok there it is, what we have set is "Blog:Set blogs homepage first" [22:16]
nkoth|nelsonok, go to tiki-admin.php, click on Blogs, there, select the Blog home page, and then save [22:17]
sylviegcomment in line seems to be broken in trunk - work like a charm in 6 but not in trunk
sylvieg misses perhaps a feature somewhere... 		[22:19]
jneusteterok, there is a setting "Home Blog (main blog): but i have only one option which is "Linuxbasix Blog" [22:19]
nkoth|nelsonsure, just save it
then go back to General and check what it says now 		[22:21]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37891 10/trunk/lang/nds/language.php: [TRA] few more strings [22:23]
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CIA-12tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r37892 10/trunk/lang/he/language.php: [TRA] hebrew translation progress [22:27]
jneusteternkoth|nelson: i just got kicked from the channel
not sure if made any posts while i was gone 		[22:30]
nkoth|nelsonbasically all I said was "just save it and go back to General and check what it says now". YOu can then save it again once it says "Blog:Linuxbasix Blog" [22:31]
jneusteternice, you just made me quite happy. its works [22:35]
nkoth|nelsonyou're welcome
jneusteter: btw, any reason why you have a phpbb forum (is it because you set that up before you got the tiki?) 		[22:36]
jneusteterwell, its was a lack of understanding about tiki wiki. i installed tiki-wiki and phpbb at the same time. then realized the potential of tiki wiki. now im making the "tiki wiki the home page [22:41]
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nkoth|nelsonah ok. [22:42]
jneusteternow im wondering how the phpbb auth will work with tiki wiki [22:43]
nkoth|nelsonnot sure. I haven't tried it myself but it is documented: http://doc.tiki.org/phpBB+Authentication (you need phpbb 3 apparently) [22:44]
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