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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37982 10/branches/8.x/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [FIX] [REF] update_areas really updates now, made it more verbose, too | [00:19] |
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| tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r37983 10/branches/8.x/lib/categories/categlib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] array_merge complaint about 2nd argument not an array, tikiwiki: if category with given categId does not exist (l 279) | [00:41] | |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Mail-in and forum posts via e-mail does not work in Tiki 7 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42397 | [00:55] |
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| chealer | oeversetten: are you aware that changes to 8.x are [semi-]automatically merged trunk? | [01:18] |
| oeversetten | noticed too late, that i'm working in trunk | [01:21] |
| chealer | OK. that happened to me too
:-/ | [01:24] |
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| oeversetten | oeversetten plays with events | [01:37] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37984 10/branches/8.x/_htaccess: fix svn:keywords (Id) | [02:00] |
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| oeversetten | is an event trigger for the case categories changed worth for 8.x? | [02:16] |
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| chealer | oeversetten: what are the benefits? | [02:54] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Plugins in Data Channels - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42398 | [02:58] |
| oeversetten | chealer: it could trigger other events in chain, defined in lib/setup/events.php, e.g. i think of triggering update_areas that way or something else useful after creating or removing a category | [03:08] |
| as i understand it right, in that file you can combine all events with theoretically any function in the libs, so very mighty, but the event triggers have to dive up somewhere in the code | [03:14] | |
| chealer | oeversetten: I think we should only do changes in 8.x if they will have an impact on Tiki 8. If there would be a use to doing that, it's probably reasonable. it's what we would do with the event that matters. | [03:17] |
| oeversetten | then trunk it is, but tomorrow or the next days, good night | [03:27] |
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| salamandyr | i've got a calendar module enabled and showing for my admin user, but not or an editor or registered user.. which permission might i be missing? | [03:52] |
| chealer | salamandyr: is the module assigned to a group to which the problematic users belong? | [03:53] |
| salamandyr | it's assigned to the left sidebar?
lemme check how does one assign a module to a group? i've got permissions for the group level set appropriately on global permissions | [03:53] |
| chealer | salamandyr: it's not a permissions thing. each module has a setting to control which groups view it (seen in Admin Modules)
salamandyr: which Tiki version do you use? | [03:55] |
| salamandyr | great thanks
6.2 | [03:56] |
| chealer | salamandyr: before Tiki 7, modules show to Admins if you didn't select any group.
salamandyr: but except for admins, if you want the module to display, you need to select groups | [03:56] |
| salamandyr | gotcha
thanks just auto-installed it.. sussing it out and once it gets working well i'll prob upgrade to a 7.x branch but i'm pretty happy with it so far: nfbresearch.com although not much shows to non registered user | [03:57] |
| chealer | salamandyr: did you install from the Web Application Gallery?
salamandyr: right. by default the only permission given to Anonymous is tiki_p_view, which is only for Wiki pages. | [03:59] |
| salamandyr | ya, fantastico installed
i do enable article viewing but not the sidebars, etc what does since-last-visit do for anon users? track by user, or just list same for everyone? | [04:03] |
| oh nm, only shows for registered, regardless. | [04:10] | |
| any want to short the month display in the calender module from full to abbreviated name?
oh nm.. was a font issue not the sizing of the word. | [04:15] | |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37985 10/trunk/_htaccess:
tikiwiki: [FIX] Do not process typos like tiki-indexx.php as AJAX calls (r36594 regression) tikiwiki: [REF] Cleanup and improve instructions to administrators tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37986 10/branches/8.x/_htaccess: [FIX] Do not process typos like tiki-indexx.php as AJAX calls (partial backport of r37985) | [05:48] |
| fabricius | polom | [05:53] |
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| Merbster | Goodmorning | [06:17] |
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| fabricius | good morning Merbster | [06:34] |
| Merbster | :) | [06:34] |
| fabricius | Have to go to work now. I hope, that I get time to start the doc "how to structure a Tiki site" tonight | [06:36] |
| Merbster | fabricius, have a nice day :) | [06:38] |
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| chibaguy | polom from a rainy afternoon in chiba, japan | [06:41] |
| To switch a tiki branch7 to branch8, would the command be "svn switch https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/8.x"?
well, I'll try that. | [06:47] | |
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| Merbster | chibaguy, Also raining here, Aarhus Denmark ;) | [06:52] |
| chibaguy | that time of year, I guess.
it was a wet summer in japan, due to large typhoons, etc. | [06:55] |
| Merbster | chibaguy, we have rain all year around.
Even in the winters we get rain instead of snow sometimes atleast | [06:59] |
| chibaguy | Merbster, do you get tired of the rain, or depressed? | [07:04] |
| Merbster | chibaguy, I think this saying is very correct; there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing ;) | [07:04] |
| chibaguy | :-) I think so
maybe also: no such thing as bad weather, only bad attitude. ;-) | [07:05] |
| Merbster | Yes :P
I'd like to see the nature of Japan though. | [07:05] |
| chibaguy | yeah, it's nice. | [07:06] |
| Merbster | I have seen the nordic nature quite a bit. I could imagine japans being quite different | [07:10] |
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| Merbster | Does Tiki 8 SVN use smarty 3 ? | [07:19] |
| chibaguy | I think so. | [07:21] |
| Merbster | ok. so there's some issues with " " around some of the arguments
for wikiplugins | [07:22] |
| chibaguy | Yeah, the readme in tiki 8 lib/smarty says smarty 3.0.9
I wonder what the problem is when I do a tiki install (svn checkout) and run setup .sh but after the install screens, it refreshes to tiki-install.php instead if the index. instead of the index. | [07:22] |
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| chibaguy | A similar installation went smoothly on the same server.
new installation, so I guess I'll wipe it and try again. | [07:39] |
| yay, second time, it works fine. | [07:51] | |
| Merbster | chibaguy, have you tried to use the wikiplugin just called "List" ?
we just recently set it up to sort out values based on categories. It worked on our dev server last week. but when we moved the setup to our production server, that runs same version of Tiki8 SVN. it doesn't work | [07:51] |
| chibaguy | Merbster, sorry, no, I haven't used it.
are your server configurations the same? | [07:59] |
| SJ-Jay | hey chiba
yup.. both servers are identical we regulary move the production servers wwwroot files and database to the dev server, and then upgrade to test if new versions are compatible with our tiki | [08:01] |
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| Bernard1 | morning all | [08:04] |
| SJ-Jay | we will move back to trackerlist.. pluginlist is just to buggy atm | [08:04] |
| gaxweb | hi all, hi Bernard1 | [08:04] |
| Bernard1 | gaxweb: congrat for your first commit ! ;) | [08:04] |
| gaxweb | thanks :) | [08:04] |
| Merbster | morning Bernard1 and gaxweb | [08:04] |
| gaxweb | morning Merbster | [08:05] |
| chibaguy | hi SJ-Jay
and all | [08:05] |
| SJ-Jay | Hi chibaguy , Bernard1, and gaxweb | [08:06] |
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| Bernard1 | arildb: About notitle=y displaying the title, i had a similar problem with trunk and sitemycode. I'm checking now with last update and 8.x | [08:08] |
| arildb | Bernard1: OK | [08:08] |
| gaxweb | is it possible to show the categories inside of the menu?
the whole tree? dynamically, so you don't have to manually keep them in sync? | [08:10] |
| Merbster | gaxweb, you could write a simple wikiplugin that lists the categories. and then include it as a toolbar? | [08:16] |
| Bernard1 | arildb: ok here what i have for sitemycode; | [08:16] |
| Merbster | gaxweb, I don't know if there is built in functionality to handle listing of categories. | [08:16] |
| gaxweb | i see | [08:17] |
| Bernard1 | with notitle=y under, 6x, 6p and 7 the tab containing the title AND <H3 class="box-title clearfix"> is not displayed with my theme. (this is fine)
with notitle=y under, 8 and trunk the tab containing the title AND <H3 class="box-title clearfix"> is displayed with my theme. (this is not good) | [08:17] |
| Merbster | gaxweb, by toolbar I mean like a module :P | [08:18] |
| Bernard1 | in my case it is theme dependent. i have customized <H3 class="box-title"> as this is how the header for any box is displayed. i added padding and height and this is causing the problem with sitemycode. Something must have been changed between 7 and 8/trunk. | [08:20] |
| gaxweb | i guess i'll have to read up on that then | [08:20] |
| Bernard1 | if i remove padding and height customization it is ok. (which mean i have to find another way for the other boxes).
try it and let me know try another theme (first check) | [08:20] |
| chibaguy | Bernard1: nobox=y works ok in the module zones in trunk and tiki 8, right? So your use is a different context? | [08:21] |
| Bernard1 | chibaguy: sitemycode was previously set with nobox=y. that worked fine for 6 and 7. since 8/trunk it is not working. NOTE : only for this module in my website.. other are fine
(good idea to reset it back to nobox=y anyway :) ) | [08:22] |
| http://shocksite.com/8x.html sitemycode (nobox=y) i have my h3 title displayed with my theme (same with trunk). http://shocksite.com is 7.x, sitemycode (nobox=y) my h3 title is not displayed | [08:28] | |
| arildb | Bernard1: I have not done any customization to the themes (using Eatlon theme btw.) I think this is a bug. The parameters are fine and it should work, i.e. should be fixed. In 6.x and 7.x this worked fine | [08:29] |
| Bernard1 | this happen in my theme only as i added "height: 34px;" "padding-top: 18px;". arildb: it could be also a similar problem with Eatlon theme, try darkroom to see if it is still there. | [08:31] |
| arildb | Bernard1: ok, I will try some themes | [08:31] |
| chibaguy | Bernard1: sitemycode is a custom module?
I'm asking because I have a custom module in the top module zone, with nobox=y set, and it displays as expected, without the h3 title etc. | [08:31] |
| Bernard1 | it was created automatically by TW when updating from 6 to 7 (new module system) to keep my previous look&feel. | [08:32] |
| arildb | Bernard1: darkroom theme has the same problem | [08:32] |
| chibaguy | (in tiki 8)
ah, I see. | [08:32] |
| arildb | Bernard1: as does fivealive. So, it does not seem to be theme dependent | [08:33] |
| Bernard1 | arildb: ok so we have 2 different problem.
at least i know where to look to solve mine. :) | [08:33] |
| arildb | :-) | [08:38] |
| chibaguy | Bernard1: you could try making a new module with the data of the sitemycode module and assigning it instead. The sitemycode module seems a little unusual to me (id has no number). | [08:40] |
| Bernard1 | but this is a bug of course, no matter what i should have in my style, nobox=y should NO BOX !
chibaguy: this is a good solution too. trying right away. | [08:40] |
| chibaguy | if all else fails, you could hide the module title with css. | [08:42] |
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| Bernard1 | the tab is very capricious in module+8 = no tab better | [08:44] |
| ok creating a new module didn't work neither :( i go css | [08:49] | |
| chibaguy | yep, i see the new module :-|
(title) | [08:50] |
| Bernard1 | yep
id withnumber too right ? without | [08:50] |
| chibaguy | yes. i have "<div id="module_57" class="module box-twentyten_header_image clearfix" style="">" for my custom module in top modules. | [08:52] |
| Bernard1 | …this is beyond my understanding of "modules"
ok i see a diffenrec from tw7 and tw8. inline style "class="clearfix box-data"" has been added. this is what is causing my problem | [08:52] |
| chibaguy | well, I just mean that is what is shown in my page source, which seems a bit different from what is shown in yours. | [08:54] |
| Bernard1 | if i remove it everything is back to normal
even if it is not a problem with your layout, do you see this too ? | [08:54] |
| chibaguy | I don't have the inline style as you quote. | [08:57] |
| Bernard1 | hu... | [08:57] |
| chibaguy | only style="" because I didn't enter any style parameter in admin modules. | [08:57] |
| Bernard1 | me neither… rechecking that
as it is a custom module i don;t have a lot of option. i can set only parameters and the only one is nobox=y | [08:57] |
| chibaguy | right, I only set nobox=y&theme=twentyten.css, so I'm surprised that the HTML in the end is rather different for us. | [09:01] |
| Bernard1 | … how can something in the code change the h3 which is in the container… ?
may be you'll see something i don;t : http://pastebin.com/r12riWPQ this is what in the custom module | [09:03] |
| chibaguy | Hmm, I just took the first table from your module data and made a custom module with it. I can specify nobox=y, and no title displays. | [09:09] |
| Bernard1 | do you have an url ? | [09:11] |
| chibaguy | Well, replaced that module data with your full module data, and again no title displays. Sorry, it's here on my laptop only.
Is the site you are testing on an update from previous tiki versions, or a fresh install of tiki 8? | [09:11] |
| Bernard1 | just before we talk...
this is weird… especially that i have it on a tw8 and also trunk (2 different install) | [09:12] |
| chibaguy | A fresh tiki 8 installation? | [09:13] |
| Bernard1 | yes | [09:13] |
| chibaguy | hmm | [09:13] |
| Bernard1 | i duplicate the base for each one | [09:13] |
| chibaguy | same for me | [09:15] |
| Bernard1 | (re deleting modules and creating one after flushong caches) | [09:15] |
| chibaguy | Ah, Bernard1, when I approved the modules inside the module data, now the sitemycode module title appears. :-o
Before, I was just seeing the unapproved module messages. The modules within sitemycode apparently interfere with nobox=y. So this seems to be a bug. | [09:18] |
| Bernard1 | ah
do you see if the class "class="clearfix box-data" has been added to the H3 box title ? under the h3 for the box title <div id="mod-Special_header " class="clearfix box-data" style="display: block;" > This is what show my third attempt on tw8 and trunk. on a 6 and 7 it show <div id="mod-Special_header style="display: block;" > | [09:20] |
| chibaguy | No, the h3 class is ok here. But the module id isn't complete. | [09:31] |
| <div id="module_ " class="box box-Test+Module module">
<h3 class="box-title clearfix"> is how it is in page source. | [09:37] | |
| Bernard1 | yes different..
in the meatime i will tweak it with my theme css tks for helping chibaguy. sry we have a bug to solve ;) | [09:38] |
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| chibaguy | no problem. I'm sure jonnyb can fix it in a minute or two. ;-) | [09:41] |
| jonnyb | que? (polom) | [09:41] |
| Bernard1 | lol | [09:42] |
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| chibaguy | oh hi jonnyb :-) | [09:42] |
| jonnyb | hi chibaguy and all | [09:42] |
| chibaguy | Bernard1 has found that when a custom module contains a module, the nobox=y parameter of the containing module doesn't work.
Not sure if the same applies to standard (not custom) modules. | [09:43] |
| jonnyb | why put a module inside a module?
(amazed it works at all!) | [09:45] |
| Bernard1 | since 8/trunk | [09:45] |
| jonnyb | hi Bernard1 - you mean it's ok in 7.x? | [09:45] |
| Bernard1 | well it have been done automatically when i moved from tw6 to tw7 (module changes to preserve my look&feel))
yes ok in 7 and in 6 | [09:45] |
| chibaguy | It's his former sitemycode (custom site header content) which is now displayed in a module rather than in L&F custom code. | [09:46] |
| Bernard1 | (but 6 is different as look and feel changed)
right brb | [09:46] |
| jonnyb | hmm, ok - wonder why that's changed - it wasn't intentional - might be a smarty 3 thing | [09:48] |
| chibaguy | Now that jonnyb asks, I wonder if the same content could be displayed without nesting modules. | [09:48] |
| Bernard1 | sry to drop it, making a 15mn break… hungry baby don't care about nested things :D :D :D | [09:50] |
| chibaguy | only one nest that baby cares about ;-) | [09:51] |
| jonnyb | :) | [09:51] |
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| Bernard1 | back
so what do we do (jungle book vulture) | [10:07] |
| chibaguy | I'd say, short-term, use css to hide the module title. I don't know about the bug fixing.
hypothetically, it should be possible to use a series of modules to replace what you have now, to avoid nesting modules, but that might be kind of complicated to work out. | [10:14] |
| Bernard1 | ok, but as the "anomaly" came from the update process between 6/7 to 8 i fear that it will be more critical when updating from LTS 6 to the next LTS (9 or 10 i don't recall) | [10:17] |
| chibaguy | well, either the bug will be fixed or a method to work around can be figured out.
{module}{language filter}html {module}html{/language filter}{/module} could be replaced by... {module with lang parameter}html{/module}{module}{module with lang parameter}html{/module} ...maybe where {module} is the "nested" module currently and {module with lang parameter}html{/module} would be new, to replace or contain the table tags and other html in sitemycode, up to the point of the {module}, and then another after it, etc. | [10:18] |
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| Bernard1 | Mmm… (forgive my ignorance) how do i do that => "I wonder if the same content could be displayed without nesting modules" | [10:35] |
| chibaguy | well, I was thinking if you look at the content of your sitemycode module, and copy everything up to the point where the first module in that content starts, then paste that copied data as a new module.
then do the same for the content after that module, etc. making maybe several modules that together have the same content as the current sitemycode module. but none of these new ones contains a module. they go between the current contained modules. I didn't look carefully at your module data so don't really know if that would work, or would be easy. One thing is that the {if lang..} filters could become module parameters. | [10:37] |
| jonnyb | Bernard1 & chibaguy - i think the fix should be pretty simple, just need to sort a couple of other things out
probably not worth sending long time on a workaround unless you need it within the hour | [10:40] |
| Bernard1 | ok got the idea… in the end instead of a single module, i should have 3 (one per language) + 1 (swicth language) + 1 (online support) + 3 (one per language). quit a way to go ! :D :D :D
jonnyb: no stress at all, my prod is tw7 and is working fine. a single module is afr more easy to handle. but i understand your point for future development chibaguy | [10:41] |
| chibaguy | I guess in the end the questions are which way is more efficient for the server and which is easiest for users. | [10:46] |
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| ricks99 | polom y'all | [11:02] |
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| coaboa | polom | [11:03] |
| jonnyb | hi ricks99 & coaboa | [11:03] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37987 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Connect/Client.php: [FIX] connect: Correct issue with timezone and/or clock difference between php and mysql (by using database time only) | [11:04] |
| coaboa | off: just ordered the 25 different images for the lamination of our booth (each 250*100 cm) still waiting for marcs portrait ;-) | [11:05] |
| chibaguy | :-) | [11:07] |
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| ricks99 | any news from sherbrooke? how goes the tikifest? | [11:33] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37988 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 37973 to 37987 | [12:03] |
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| SJ-Jay | hey guys
anyone remember were to configure trackeritems that are shown in trackerlist NOT to be a link? | [12:35] |
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| oeversetten | polom
I wonder can the category plugin show up a category tree? | [12:47] |
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| oeversetten | the fact is the category module does, but does not show the objects, resp wikipages, in it | [12:50] |
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| Merbster | is it possible to fetch jquery scripts from JQ plugin? | [13:03] |
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| SJ-Jay | does someone know how to show login as name instead of full name when using user selector in trackers? | [13:19] |
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| Bernard1 | polom back | [13:41] |
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| jonnyb | hi Bernard1 - custom module with this in seems fine for me here on 8.x
{MODULE(module=>switch_lang, title=Languages, flip=>y, nobox=>y, decorations=n, mode=flags)}{MODULE} | [14:00] |
| no, spoke to soon - but it seems to show the box for the containing custom module - ok, will try and fix... (sometime) | [14:05] | |
| Bernard1 | :) | [14:13] |
| jonnyb | can you add it to dev.t.o/tiki8 pls? (can't do it now i'm afraid)
btw Bernard1 - you should change that to be just a normal module | [14:15] |
| Bernard1 | ok for dev.t.o | [14:21] |
| jonnyb | thx | [14:21] |
| Bernard1 | what do you mean by to change that to be a normal module ? | [14:21] |
| jonnyb | well instead of a custom module with wiki syntax in it containing the wiki plugin for a module, why not just use a module? (much less memory & cpu use etc) | [14:22] |
| Merbster | in regard to JS best practice is to use post when saving data and get when fetching right? - But jquery.com uses an example where post is used to fetch data.
or is the post/get discussion only relevant in HTML forms? | [14:24] |
| jonnyb | not sure Merbster - get has a smaller size limit on the data sent (4k i think) | [14:26] |
| Merbster | jonnyb, I know that if you use POST to fetch data in HTML forms, some webcrawlers will trigger your POST to see what data is returned (which might give weird results when a webcrawler crawls the page) | [14:27] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37990 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations | [14:32] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37991 10/branches/8.x/lib/ (newsletters/nllib.php userslib.php): [FIX] Undefined variables in newsletters preventing non-admins from using the feature | [15:08] |
| chealer | polom | [15:09] |
| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37992 10/trunk/_htaccess: fix svn:keywords (Id) (merge from 8.x r37984) | [15:10] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37993 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r37990][TRA] more French translations | [15:21] |
| Merbster | I have a webservice template, where the webservice is called from a pretty tracker template. The webservice template calls a JQ plugin. But when I look at page source, all " ' " are made into " "
urgh my irc client can't even show the sign. But like a microscopic L floating in the middle of the line | [15:23] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37994 10/branches/8.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Quiz permission check | [15:32] |
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| lphuberdeau | chealer: I fixed the permission issue in quizzes, but seeing the amount of notices in there, I have serious doubts the code works at all
and I won't fix it all | [15:38] |
| chealer | lphuberdeau: heh, OK. I'll check how it looks, thanks | [15:39] |
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| nkoth|nelson | lphuberdeau: RobertPlummer and I were discussing a new feature/objecttype for tiki yesterday, which is reports. A report is basically a config of "a query and associated filters" from logsquerylib.php or trackerquerylib. I have the need to limit the viewing of certain reports to certain groups, so perms. And I was wondering if it was really difficult to create a new object type in tiki. If so, maybe the perm
be implemented in another way (but then that is not making us e of tiki's main permissions capabiliites...) What do you think, do you get what I am asking? | [16:09] |
| chealer | lphuberdeau: what is the purpose of "RewriteRule ^tiki-([a-z_]+) tiki-ajax_services.php?controller=$1 [QSA,L]"? it seems tiki-ajax_services.php requires both a controller and an action. supporting an action given in POST? | [16:09] |
| lphuberdeau | nkoth: there is nothing much to do besides consistently using a token for it | [16:10] |
| nkoth|nelson | chealer: that rewrites a lot of urls that call the ajax services | [16:11] |
| lphuberdeau | chealer: to go through the broker, you need both the controller and the action, but the URL could contain only the controller and the action could be specified through POST, yes | [16:11] |
| chealer | nkoth|nelson: yeah, but I think most go through RewriteRule ^tiki-([a-z_]+)-([a-z_]+) tiki-ajax_services.php?controller=$1&action=$2 [QSA,L]
thanks lphuberdeau | [16:12] |
| nkoth|nelson | chealer, I see ues then the other one can be sent through post yes
lphuberdeau: is there documentation on what needs to be done to add a objectType to tiki to make use of all the perms etc? | [16:12] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37999 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Change the html link class 'page' to 'wiki_page' while leaving the class 'wiki' intact. This naming should make the implementation more robust (thanks Jonny). | [16:52] |
| tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38000 10/branches/8.x/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] modules: Re-assign module_params for the custom module in case a module plugin is used inside it (thanks Bernard1) | [17:01] | |
| jonnyb | chealer (any all) - i'm looking at your reported autocomplete with ajax disabled issue on https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki8#Regressions - what do you think we should do?
either i can remove the check for ajax in tiki-ajax_services.php (line 62) or we could make autocomplete dependant on ajax... (and add checks elsewhere, like listpages) | [17:14] |
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| chealer | jonnyb: I don't know what the root of the problem is, I don't understand why the situation changed from 7.x | [17:22] |
| jonnyb | it's checked in ajax_services but not in listpages, so not consistant
doing a mail to devs | [17:23] |
| chealer | jonnyb: but it wasn't checked in 7.x?
(in ajax_services) | [17:28] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb annotates... | [17:29] |
| chealer | oh, sorry, just read your comment | [17:29] |
| jonnyb | looks like it was tested but the error probably wasn't ever shown (those ajax errors are new in 8.x)
it probably failed silently i guess | [17:30] |
| chealer | jonnyb: well, disregarding 7.x, I guess if autocomplete depends on AJAX in reality, it should declare a dependency on it indeed, although I'm not sure what is the point/definition of the AJAX feature. | [17:31] |
| jonnyb | indeed, hence a mail to devs | [17:31] |
| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38002 10/trunk/_htaccess: htaccess: fix confusing comment on handling errors catched by Apache with Tiki | [17:43] |
| arildb | jonnyb: I saw your email. Seems to me like Ajax is a base technology (like CSS and Javascript). Is there any reason to have it optional and not mandatory? | [17:47] |
| chealer | I think like arildb. I don't see why an admin would want to disable AJAX. | [17:49] |
| jonnyb | hi arildb, i agree - it was mainly a historical thing when we had this xajax feature (which was quite buggy)
also one of the 3 rules ("make it optional") | [17:49] |
| arildb | jonnyb: My understanding is the 3 rules applies to features. In my view Ajax can be considered a base technology | [17:50] |
| jonnyb | i agree | [17:50] |
| chealer | I see make it optional as a rule when no option is strictly better. here, I don't see what would be the benefit of disabling AJAX. | [17:52] |
| jonnyb | so just remove the check in tiki-ajax_services.php (it's the least work too! :) )
let's see if there's any response to the mail on devels for a day or two (reply +1 to remove the check - might help) | [17:52] |
| arildb | I would remove the option to disable Ajax all together...maybe that is in the file you mentioned. Less (unnecessary) choices can also be better
jonnyb: I replied with my vote to your email | [17:54] |
| jonnyb | thanks
maybe we can remove feature_ajax for 9 (and make it always on... if javascript is enabled) | [17:57] |
| arildb | jonnyb: now there's another one. Somewhere there is an option to disable Javascript. Why is that there. Will anything work if it's disabled? | [17:59] |
| jonnyb | it's mainly to simulate what happens for browsers with javascript disabled
in theory most stuff should have a fallback to work without js (again a historical thing mainly) | [18:00] |
| arildb | jonnyb: It may simplyfy things to make it required, i.e. add a check if Javascript is support and if not terminate Tiki | [18:01] |
| jonnyb | i'd tend to agree, if you need no-js support stick with tiki3 ;) but this is a collective place and people used to complain about that sort of thing
brb | [18:02] |
| is tiki-edit_perspective.php broken for anyone else? seems to show the default prefs instead of the perspective's ones | [18:07] | |
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| Bernard1 | jonnyb: tks for the module{module fix :)… I still have to figure how to do what you suggest. use a "nomal" module… to do my tw top | [18:25] |
| jonnyb | no probs Bernard1 - thanks for the report
just drag the module you want from the list to the top | [18:27] |
| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38003 10/branches/8.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.preference.php: [FIX] prefs: Don't use global (site_*) value for overridden preferences if being used in a perspective, i.e. $params['source'] is set (corrects r36751) | [18:29] |
| Bernard1 | i have html code and modules put in one module. You suggest i should explode it to have several modules ? | [18:30] |
| jonnyb | hmm, depends hoe complicated it would be getting the layout right again, but yes, it'll run a bit lighter
(i mean cheaper for the server to produce) | [18:31] |
| Bernard1 | speed and resources is a critical with tw upon my experience, so i'll give it a try… but wonder if i really can achieve that without breaking the layout on IE. (i use table to be sure it hold) | [18:33] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 has found it *much* easier to control layout with a single module. just saying... | [18:34] |
| Bernard1 | i'll work late in the night so i'm gonna rest now. cu | [18:34] |
| jonnyb | ok bibi | [18:34] |
| Bernard1 | ;) hey Rick, Shana Tova ve Gmar Hatima Tova | [18:34] |
| jonnyb | jonnyb is glad ricks99 likes this :) | [18:34] |
| ricks99 | and happy new year to u | [18:34] |
| chealer | jonnyb: seems to work here | [18:36] |
| jonnyb | chealer: perspectives edit? fixed in r38003 i believe (was just the overridden prefs failing) | [18:37] |
| chealer | hi ricks99
jonnyb: yes. hum, OK | [18:38] |
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| tikifestsherbroo | hello all! | [18:55] |
| sipherdee | hi! :) | [18:56] |
| jonnyb | polom tikifestsherbroo - just off out, sorry (but have fun! :) ) | [19:01] |
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| ricks99 | polom tikifesters | [19:02] |
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| chealer | greetings Sherbrooke | [19:18] |
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| ricks99 | oktime/
oops. wrong window | [19:21] |
| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r38004 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_LinkTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [ENH] EditLib: convert simple html links to wiki pages (still missing: anchors, new lines)
tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r38005 10/branches/8.x/lang/nds/language.php: [TRA] more low german | [19:25] |
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| shana_ | newsletter Subscribe not showing up with {SUBSCRIBENEWSLETTER(nlId="1" thanks="Thank you!" button="Subscribe")}Stay Updated!{SUBSCRIBENEWSLETTER} link for example: http://certificationoklahoma.com | [19:31] |
| coaboa | is it intensional that using a width value on filegallery svg graphics/images causes the svg to be replaced by a svg icon. The svg is displayed properly when only the fileId is specified. version 8 r37973 | [19:36] |
| ricks99 | shana_: what is your tiki version? | [19:36] |
| shana_ | 7.2 | [19:37] |
| ricks99 | can you turn on tiki error reporting and see what the error is | [19:37] |
| shana_ | ricks99, yes i will try that. | [19:38] |
| ricks99, PHP Error reporting is set to report all errors... and nothing is showing up. Is there another way to see errors? | [19:44] | |
| ricks99 | no ERROR button at bottom of page? | [19:45] |
| shana_ | ricks99, ahh sorry :) PHP (5.2.17) ERROR (E_USER_WARNING): File: lib/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php Line: 1093 Type: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribenewsletter.tpl" PHP (5.2.17) NOTICE (E_NOTICE): File: templates_c/en^%%2B^2BE^2BEB8FDF%%canonical.tpl.php Line: 8 Type: Undefined index: page | [19:46] |
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| ricks99 | confirm that you have the TPL file:02 wikiplugin_subscribenewsletter.tpl01
02The error looks like Tiki cannot read the file | [19:47] |
| shana_ | ricks99, that's probably the problem. missing a whole folder there. uploading it now... thank you :) | [19:49] |
| ricks99 | 02you're welcome
02ocassionaly, PHP *does* have useful error messages. :) | [19:49] |
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| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38006 10/trunk/_htaccess:
tikiwiki: htaccess: RewriteBase is not needed just because Tiki is not installed in the root. be vague instead tikiwiki: [FIX] move PHP 4 block out of rewriting part tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r38007 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_LinkTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [ENH] EditLib: Convert html links with anchors to wiki pages (still missing: line breaks) | [20:05] |
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| shaun_ | I was changing the title of the wiki etc. added a user. now I cant log in as admin or the user I added. I get this message(shortend). Fatal error:in TikiDb.php on line 162 | [20:18] |
| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38008 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Definition.php: [FIX] Field option was option as 1/0, but apparently some people also used y
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| shaun_ | Full error message: Fatal error: Maximum function nesting level of '100' reached, aborting! in C:EasyPHPwwwtikilibcoreTikiDb.php on line 162 | [20:23] |
| CIA-12 | tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38011 10/trunk/_htaccess: htaccess: reorder, getting most optional parts together | [20:29] |
| shaun_ | Nothing huh? | [20:40] |
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| fabricius | what I do not understand: this year Rosch ha-Schana was at the 29. of September ? | [20:54] |
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| Jyhem_laptop | yes! | [21:20] |
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| ricks99 | fabricius: Yes, first day of Rosh HaShana was Sep 29, started at nighfall on the 28th | [22:46] |
| fabricius | but the guys wished a good year today
Bernard did | [22:48] |
| ricks99 | yes. Rosh HaShana is the Jewish new year | [22:49] |
| fabricius | ah it is just a few days after - thatś why
maybe just an error 40, that I did not see, that we are just 6 days ahead of september | [22:51] |
| ricks99 | Traditionally, the week between Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur (which is this Saturday) is the new year greating | [22:51] |
| fabricius | ah
the whole week | [22:52] |
| ricks99 | yup | [22:52] |
| fabricius | for me september and october have been apart about a few month (if not a century) - such stuff happens to me from time to time, when I am sitting concentrated infront of my little laptop
I mean, I know when actually september happens and october aswell | [22:53] |
| ricks99 | i know what you mean. Sometimes I look up from the screen and an entire week has gone by! | [22:54] |
| fabricius | just sometimes I do not know wich day it is (if I would not have a certain appointment the next day9
YES ricks99 something like that what day is today? ahh sunny day not raining ... what time it is? ahh coffee and cigarette | [22:55] |
| ricks99 | lol | [22:56] |
| fabricius | I want to write some documentation and do not find a start
wanted to talk with you about it | [22:57] |
| ricks99 | y, i saw your email.
i think, instead of documenting specific features, you should do a series of tutorials or guides that walk newbies through building different sites that was my strategy with Smarties | [22:57] |
| fabricius | what do you think - would the time been come now to write the "how to structure my Tiki think"
thing - not think sry misstype | [22:58] |
| ricks99 | be careful with the word "structure" though -- it has a special meaning in Tiki :-) | [22:59] |
| fabricius | Yes, ricks99 - I am pregnant with some video stuff aswell
and it should be more kind of an overview | [22:59] |
| ricks99 | somewhere on t.o (or maybe branding.t.o) there's a list of Tiki use cases.
it would be nice if there was a 1-2-3 basic guide for each ricks99 has been wanting to do a sort of "101 Tiki Sites/Profiles" for a while now... | [22:59] |
| fabricius | not explaining the feature in detail - not how it work or how to setup (thats classical doc) but more "what is it" and "what do I need for wich usecase" and "for what this and that is useful"
specifically for navigation, structuring, areas, perspectives | [23:01] |
| ricks99 | ricks99 still has a lot to learn about perspectives. | [23:01] |
| fabricius | what's this: 101 Tiki Sites/Profiles | [23:02] |
| ricks99 | An idea for my next site/book. To demonstrate 101 different Tiki possibilities (for example, a support site: wiki + tracker, a community forum: forums + calendar, a wikipedia clone: wiki, etc.) then include YAML profiles for each | [23:03] |
| fabricius | coool
maybe you should hav a look at the site I am developing at the moment | [23:04] |
| ricks99 | i'd love to | [23:05] |
| fabricius | http://go-man.wiki4.me/
(domain is just a provisional project domain) | [23:06] |
| ricks99 | i like the design -- very colorful and inviting. | [23:07] |
| fabricius | thank you
it is my first design from a blank page it is a customized jqui.css | [23:08] |
| ricks99 | much better than my designs. i think i am "artisticlly challanged" :-) | [23:09] |
| fabricius | hehe
did you see the areas? | [23:10] |
| ricks99 | not sure what you mean by "areas"? | [23:11] |
| fabricius | did you click on one of the colored buttons? | [23:11] |
| ricks99 | oh. yes | [23:12] |
| fabricius | just click through the secondary site menu
guess it? | [23:12] |
| ricks99 | yes. i like it via perspectives? each "area' is a different perspective? | [23:13] |
| fabricius | it would be
this is the easy way to make up areas without perspectives (kind of simulated) just modules visibility to category | [23:13] |
| ricks99 | ah | [23:14] |
| fabricius | new made by jonny recently
was begging for that since tiki 3 here I did set it up with the same "category tree" like I would need for areas with perspectives | [23:14] |
| ricks99 | it looks great | [23:16] |
| fabricius | makes sense to keep an overview and kind of easy to switch to areas with perspectives
that would work with jespers perspective_binder then and category jail Jens did integrate Jespers file a few days ago | [23:16] |
| ricks99 | yes. i recall seeing something about that | [23:18] |
| fabricius | with both methods the categorised content is kind of bound to the certain areas
with the binder, the areas are more clean, more complete, but without it is quicker to setup - depending on the certain needs only thing with this method would be, that you need the {INCLUDE} if you want content in certain areas, but not in all or in only one for ex. the "prototyping" remark is included | [23:19] |
| ricks99 | right | [23:22] |
| fabricius | some of the design stuff is "hardcoded" in the single css, but should be moved in "options"
some issues are not yet solved but one cool thing is the "selfcreating menu" - in the internal area just a wikistructure for a group and a wikistructure-menu lefthand I like the ide, that a content written in an area just can automatically appear in the lefthand menu idea | [23:23] |
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| fabricius | but that does not work with normal wikilink - when you write links to unexisting pages and create them later | [23:27] |
| ricks99 | ah. yes, tat would be an issue | [23:27] |
| fabricius | so Jens and me discussed to switch the autocategorise pages in structure around to autostructure categorised pages
I think that must work you know - just lookup the structures rootpages area-category and if the category matches, put the page in this structure what do you think? | [23:28] |
| ricks99 | it should work. would that be upon page creation? | [23:30] |
| fabricius | yes, I think that would make sense
I think, whenever you categorise a page | [23:32] |
| ricks99 | hold on a moment. gotta step away for second or 2
brb | [23:34] |
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| fabricius | kk | [23:38] |
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