" for my custom module in top modules. [08:52] …this is beyond my understanding of "modules" [08:54] ok i see a diffenrec from tw7 and tw8. inline style "class="clearfix box-data"" has been added. this is what is causing my problem [08:54] well, I just mean that is what is shown in my page source, which seems a bit different from what is shown in yours. [08:54] if i remove it everything is back to normal [08:55] even if it is not a problem with your layout, do you see this too ? [08:57] I don't have the inline style as you quote. [08:57] hu... [08:57] only style="" because I didn't enter any style parameter in admin modules. [08:57] me neither… rechecking that [09:00] as it is a custom module i don;t have a lot of option. i can set only parameters and the only one is nobox=y [09:01] right, I only set nobox=y&theme=twentyten.css, so I'm surprised that the HTML in the end is rather different for us. [09:03] … how can something in the code change the h3 which is in the container… ? [09:03] may be you'll see something i don;t : http://pastebin.com/r12riWPQ [09:03] this is what in the custom module [09:09] Hmm, I just took the first table from your module data and made a custom module with it. I can specify nobox=y, and no title displays. [09:11] do you have an url ? [09:11] Well, replaced that module data with your full module data, and again no title displays. Sorry, it's here on my laptop only. [09:11] Is the site you are testing on an update from previous tiki versions, or a fresh install of tiki 8? [09:12] just before we talk... [09:12] this is weird… especially that i have it on a tw8 and also trunk (2 different install) [09:13] A fresh tiki 8 installation? [09:13] yes [09:13] hmm [09:13] i duplicate the base for each one [09:15] same for me [09:15] (re deleting modules and creating one after flushong caches) [09:18] Ah, Bernard1, when I approved the modules inside the module data, now the sitemycode module title appears. :-o [09:18] Before, I was just seeing the unapproved module messages. [09:19] The modules within sitemycode apparently interfere with nobox=y. [09:19] So this seems to be a bug. [09:20] ah [09:23] do you see if the class "class="clearfix box-data" has been added to the H3 box title ? [09:24] under the h3 for the box title [09:25]

[09:25] This is what show my third attempt on tw8 and trunk. on a 6 and 7 it show [09:25]

[09:31] No, the h3 class is ok here. But the module id isn't complete. [09:37]

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[09:37] is how it is in page source. [09:38] yes different.. [09:38] in the meatime i will tweak it with my theme css [09:40] tks for helping chibaguy. sry we have a bug to solve ;) [09:40] * jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [09:41] no problem. I'm sure jonnyb can fix it in a minute or two. ;-) [09:41] que? (polom) [09:42] lol [09:42] * stix_ is now known as stix [09:42] oh hi jonnyb :-) [09:42] hi chibaguy and all [09:43] Bernard1 has found that when a custom module contains a module, the nobox=y parameter of the containing module doesn't work. [09:44] Not sure if the same applies to standard (not custom) modules. [09:45] why put a module inside a module? [09:45] (amazed it works at all!) [09:45] since 8/trunk [09:45] hi Bernard1 - you mean it's ok in 7.x? [09:45] well it have been done automatically when i moved from tw6 to tw7 (module changes to preserve my look&feel)) [09:46] yes ok in 7 and in 6 [09:46] It's his former sitemycode (custom site header content) which is now displayed in a module rather than in L&F custom code. [09:46] (but 6 is different as look and feel changed) [09:46] right [09:48] brb [09:48] hmm, ok - wonder why that's changed - it wasn't intentional - might be a smarty 3 thing [09:48] Now that jonnyb asks, I wonder if the same content could be displayed without nesting modules. [09:50] sry to drop it, making a 15mn break… hungry baby don't care about nested things :D :D :D [09:51] only one nest that baby cares about ;-) [09:51] :) [10:07] back [10:08] so what do we do (jungle book vulture) [10:14] I'd say, short-term, use css to hide the module title. I don't know about the bug fixing. [10:15] hypothetically, it should be possible to use a series of modules to replace what you have now, to avoid nesting modules, but that might be kind of complicated to work out. [10:17] ok, but as the "anomaly" came from the update process between 6/7 to 8 i fear that it will be more critical when updating from LTS 6 to the next LTS (9 or 10 i don't recall) [10:18] well, either the bug will be fixed or a method to work around can be figured out. [10:20] {module}{language filter}html {module}html{/language filter}{/module} could be replaced by... [10:21] {module with lang parameter}html{/module}{module}{module with lang parameter}html{/module} [10:21] ...maybe [10:21] where {module} is the "nested" module currently [10:23] and {module with lang parameter}html{/module} would be new, to replace or contain the table tags and other html in sitemycode, up to the point of the {module}, and then another after it, etc. [10:32] * Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie|away [10:35] Mmm… (forgive my ignorance) how do i do that => "I wonder if the same content could be displayed without nesting modules" [10:37] well, I was thinking if you look at the content of your sitemycode module, and copy everything up to the point where the first module in that content starts, then paste that copied data as a new module. [10:38] then do the same for the content after that module, etc. making maybe several modules that together have the same content as the current sitemycode module. [10:38] but none of these new ones contains a module. they go between the current contained modules. [10:39] I didn't look carefully at your module data so don't really know if that would work, or would be easy. One thing is that the {if lang..} filters could become module parameters. [10:40] Bernard1 & chibaguy - i think the fix should be pretty simple, just need to sort a couple of other things out [10:40] probably not worth sending long time on a workaround unless you need it within the hour [10:41] ok got the idea… in the end instead of a single module, i should have 3 (one per language) + 1 (swicth language) + 1 (online support) + 3 (one per language). quit a way to go ! :D :D :D [10:42] jonnyb: no stress at all, my prod is tw7 and is working fine. [10:42] a single module is afr more easy to handle. [10:43] but i understand your point for future development chibaguy [10:46] I guess in the end the questions are which way is more efficient for the server and which is easiest for users. [10:57] * ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [11:02] polom y'all [11:03] * coaboa|afk is now known as coaboa [11:03] polom [11:03] hi ricks99 & coaboa [11:04] * arildb_ has joined #tikiwiki [11:04] *** arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:04] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37987 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Connect/Client.php: [FIX] connect: Correct issue with timezone and/or clock difference between php and mysql (by using database time only) [11:05] off: just ordered the 25 different images for the lamination of our booth (each 250100 cm) still waiting for marcs portrait ;-) [11:07] :-) [11:07] arildb_ is now known as arildb [11:28] * arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:29] * arildb has joined #tikiwiki [11:33] any news from sherbrooke? how goes the tikifest? [12:00] * ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:03] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37988 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 37973 to 37987 [12:27] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r37989 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] rollback merge conflict (please be MORE careful of "partial" backports!) [12:34] * jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: nite nite) [12:35] hey guys [12:36] anyone remember were to configure trackeritems that are shown in trackerlist NOT to be a link? [12:44] * luciash has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:47] * oeversetten has joined #tikiwiki [12:47] polom [12:48] I wonder can the category plugin show up a category tree? [12:49] * luciash has joined #tikiwiki [12:50] the fact is the category module does, but does not show the objects, resp wikipages, in it [13:01] * radek82 has joined #tikiwiki [13:03] is it possible to fetch jquery scripts from JQ plugin? [13:12] * rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki [13:19] does someone know how to show login as name instead of full name when using user selector in trackers? [13:29] * jonnyb has joined #tikiwiki [13:41] polom back [13:47] * chealer has joined #tikiwiki [13:47] * chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [13:47] * chealer has joined #tikiwiki [14:00] hi Bernard1 - custom module with this in seems fine for me here on 8.x [14:00] {MODULE(module=>switch_lang, title=Languages, flip=>y, nobox=>y, decorations=n, mode=flags)}{MODULE} [14:05] no, spoke to soon - but it seems to show the box for the containing custom module - ok, will try and fix... (sometime) [14:13] :) [14:15] can you add it to dev.t.o/tiki8 pls? (can't do it now i'm afraid) [14:15] btw Bernard1 - you should change that to be just a normal module [14:21] ok for dev.t.o [14:21] thx [14:21] what do you mean by to change that to be a normal module ? [14:22] well instead of a custom module with wiki syntax in it containing the wiki plugin for a module, why not just use a module? (much less memory & cpu use etc) [14:24] in regard to JS best practice is to use post when saving data and get when fetching right? - But jquery.com uses an example where post is used to fetch data. [14:24] or is the post/get discussion only relevant in HTML forms? [14:26] not sure Merbster - get has a smaller size limit on the data sent (4k i think) [14:27] jonnyb, I know that if you use POST to fetch data in HTML forms, some webcrawlers will trigger your POST to see what data is returned (which might give weird results when a webcrawler crawls the page) [14:28] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [14:32] tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37990 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations [14:36] * nkoth|nelson has quit IRC (Quit: nkoth|nelson) [14:38] * nkoth|nelson has joined #tikiwiki [15:06] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [15:08] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37991 10/branches/8.x/lib/ (newsletters/nllib.php userslib.php): [FIX] Undefined variables in newsletters preventing non-admins from using the feature [15:09] polom [15:10] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37992 10/trunk/_htaccess: fix svn:keywords (Id) (merge from 8.x r37984) [15:13] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [15:14] New Forum Posts: Mapping - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42399 [15:21] tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r37993 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r37990][TRA] more French translations [15:23] I have a webservice template, where the webservice is called from a pretty tracker template. The webservice template calls a JQ plugin. But when I look at page source, all " ' " are made into " " [15:23] urgh my irc client can't even show the sign. [15:23] But like a microscopic L floating in the middle of the line [15:25] * gaxweb has left [15:32] * Merbster has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:32] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r37994 10/branches/8.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Quiz permission check [15:33] * SJ-Jay has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:34] * marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [15:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [15:38] chealer: I fixed the permission issue in quizzes, but seeing the amount of notices in there, I have serious doubts the code works at all [15:38] and I won't fix it all [15:39] lphuberdeau: heh, OK. I'll check how it looks, thanks [15:42] * chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:48] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [16:05] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37995 10/trunk/templates/error.tpl: Handle 404 errors for situations other than Wiki pages and "file errors" [16:07] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37996 10/trunk/lib/core/Services/Broker.php: Services_Broker: truely pass no $page to display_error in process() when there's an exception. fixes "page not found [empty]" error when the controller doesn't exist [16:08] * ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:09] * ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [16:09] lphuberdeau: RobertPlummer and I were discussing a new feature/objecttype for tiki yesterday, which is reports. A report is basically a config of "a query and associated filters" from logsquerylib.php or trackerquerylib. I have the need to limit the viewing of certain reports to certain groups, so perms. And I was wondering if it was really difficult to create a new object type in tiki. If so, maybe the perm [16:09] be implemented in another way (but then that is not making us e of tiki's main permissions capabiliites...) What do you think, do you get what I am asking? [16:09] lphuberdeau: what is the purpose of "RewriteRule ^tiki-([a-z_]+) tiki-ajax_services.php?controller=$1 [QSA,L]"? it seems tiki-ajax_services.php requires both a controller and an action. supporting an action given in POST? [16:10] nkoth: there is nothing much to do besides consistently using a token for it [16:11] chealer: that rewrites a lot of urls that call the ajax services [16:11] chealer: to go through the broker, you need both the controller and the action, but the URL could contain only the controller and the action could be specified through POST, yes [16:12] nkoth|nelson: yeah, but I think most go through RewriteRule ^tiki-([a-z_]+)-([a-z_]+) tiki-ajax_services.php?controller=$1&action=$2 [QSA,L] [16:12] thanks lphuberdeau [16:12] chealer, I see ues then the other one can be sent through post yes [16:13] lphuberdeau: is there documentation on what needs to be done to add a objectType to tiki to make use of all the perms etc? [16:19] * Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:19] * ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:24] tikiwiki: 03jyhem * r37997 10/branches/6.x/lang/ (17 files in 17 dirs): [FIX] Translations containing '{tr}' break the templates. I commented them [16:28] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r37998 10/trunk/tiki-ajax_services.php: AJAX: return an error if no service matches [16:30] * ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [16:47] * marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [16:52] tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r37999 10/trunk/lib/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Change the html link class 'page' to 'wiki_page' while leaving the class 'wiki' intact. This naming should make the implementation more robust (thanks Jonny). [17:01] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38000 10/branches/8.x/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] modules: Re-assign module_params for the custom module in case a module plugin is used inside it (thanks Bernard1) [17:14] chealer (any all) - i'm looking at your reported autocomplete with ajax disabled issue on https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki8#Regressions - what do you think we should do? [17:15] either i can remove the check for ajax in tiki-ajax_services.php (line 62) or we could make autocomplete dependant on ajax... (and add checks elsewhere, like listpages) [17:17] *** oeversetten has left [17:18] tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r38001 10/trunk/lib/wiki/editlib.php: [REF] Prepare the EditLib to convert links to Wiki (work in progress) [17:22] jonnyb: I don't know what the root of the problem is, I don't understand why the situation changed from 7.x [17:23] it's checked in ajax_services but not in listpages, so not consistant [17:24] doing a mail to devs [17:28] jonnyb: but it wasn't checked in 7.x? [17:28] (in ajax_services) [17:29] * jonnyb annotates... [17:29] oh, sorry, just read your comment [17:30] looks like it was tested but the error probably wasn't ever shown (those ajax errors are new in 8.x) [17:30] it probably failed silently i guess [17:31] jonnyb: well, disregarding 7.x, I guess if autocomplete depends on AJAX in reality, it should declare a dependency on it indeed, although I'm not sure what is the point/definition of the AJAX feature. [17:31] indeed, hence a mail to devs [17:43] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38002 10/trunk/_htaccess: htaccess: fix confusing comment on handling errors catched by Apache with Tiki [17:47] jonnyb: I saw your email. Seems to me like Ajax is a base technology (like CSS and Javascript). Is there any reason to have it optional and not mandatory? [17:49] I think like arildb. I don't see why an admin would want to disable AJAX. [17:49] hi arildb, i agree - it was mainly a historical thing when we had this xajax feature (which was quite buggy) [17:49] also one of the 3 rules ("make it optional") [17:50] jonnyb: My understanding is the 3 rules applies to features. In my view Ajax can be considered a base technology [17:50] i agree [17:52] I see make it optional as a rule when no option is strictly better. here, I don't see what would be the benefit of disabling AJAX. [17:52] so just remove the check in tiki-ajax_services.php (it's the least work too! :) ) [17:54] let's see if there's any response to the mail on devels for a day or two (reply +1 to remove the check - might help) [17:54] I would remove the option to disable Ajax all together...maybe that is in the file you mentioned. Less (unnecessary) choices can also be better [17:57] jonnyb: I replied with my vote to your email [17:57] thanks [17:58] maybe we can remove feature_ajax for 9 (and make it always on... if javascript is enabled) [17:59] jonnyb: now there's another one. Somewhere there is an option to disable Javascript. Why is that there. Will anything work if it's disabled? [18:00] it's mainly to simulate what happens for browsers with javascript disabled [18:00] in theory most stuff should have a fallback to work without js (again a historical thing mainly) [18:01] jonnyb: It may simplyfy things to make it required, i.e. add a check if Javascript is support and if not terminate Tiki [18:02] i'd tend to agree, if you need no-js support stick with tiki3 ;) but this is a collective place and people used to complain about that sort of thing [18:02] brb [18:07] is tiki-edit_perspective.php broken for anyone else? seems to show the default prefs instead of the perspective's ones [18:13] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [18:25] jonnyb: tks for the module{module fix :)… I still have to figure how to do what you suggest. use a "nomal" module… to do my tw top [18:27] no probs Bernard1 - thanks for the report [18:27] just drag the module you want from the list to the top [18:29] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38003 10/branches/8.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.preference.php: [FIX] prefs: Don't use global (site_) value for overridden preferences if being used in a perspective, i.e. $params['source'] is set (corrects r36751) [18:30] i have html code and modules put in one module. You suggest i should explode it to have several modules ? [18:31] hmm, depends hoe complicated it would be getting the layout right again, but yes, it'll run a bit lighter [18:32] (i mean cheaper for the server to produce) [18:33] speed and resources is a critical with tw upon my experience, so i'll give it a try… but wonder if i really can achieve that without breaking the layout on IE. (i use table to be sure it hold) [18:34] ricks99 has found it much easier to control layout with a single module. just saying... [18:34] i'll work late in the night so i'm gonna rest now. cu [18:34] ok bibi [18:34] ;) hey Rick, Shana Tova ve Gmar Hatima Tova [18:34] * jonnyb is glad ricks99 likes this :) [18:34] and happy new year to u [18:36] jonnyb: seems to work here [18:37] chealer: perspectives edit? fixed in r38003 i believe (was just the overridden prefs failing) [18:38] hi ricks99 [18:40] jonnyb: yes. hum, OK [18:45] * fabricius has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:48] polom [18:48] * changi|ffa is now known as changi|phpunit [18:49] New Forum Posts: When view calendar I get "HTTP 500 Internal Server Error". - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42401 [18:54] * Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [18:54] * tikifestsherbroo has joined #tikiwiki [18:55] hello all! [18:56] hi! :) [19:01] polom tikifestsherbroo - just off out, sorry (but have fun! :) ) [19:01] * jonnyb has quit IRC (Quit: I am going outside... I may be some time...) [19:02] polom tikifesters [19:03] * Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [19:18] greetings Sherbrooke [19:19] *** rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [19:21] oktime/ [19:21] oops. wrong window [19:25] tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r38004 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_LinkTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [ENH] EditLib: convert simple html links to wiki pages (still missing: anchors, new lines) [19:25] tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r38005 10/branches/8.x/lang/nds/language.php: [TRA] more low german [19:28] * shana_ has joined #tikiwiki [19:29] * arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:30] * arildb has joined #tikiwiki [19:31] newsletter Subscribe not showing up with {SUBSCRIBENEWSLETTER(nlId="1" thanks="Thank you!" button="Subscribe")}Stay Updated!{SUBSCRIBENEWSLETTER} link for example: http://certificationoklahoma.com [19:36] is it intensional that using a width value on filegallery svg graphics/images causes the svg to be replaced by a svg icon. The svg is displayed properly when only the fileId is specified. version 8 r37973 [19:36] shana_: what is your tiki version? [19:37] 7.2 [19:37] can you turn on tiki error reporting and see what the error is [19:38] ricks99, yes i will try that. [19:44] ricks99, PHP Error reporting is set to report all errors... and nothing is showing up. Is there another way to see errors? [19:45] no ERROR button at bottom of page? [19:46] ricks99, ahh sorry :) PHP (5.2.17) ERROR (E_USER_WARNING): File: lib/smarty/libs/Smarty.class.php Line: 1093 Type: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_subscribenewsletter.tpl" PHP (5.2.17) NOTICE (E_NOTICE): File: templates_c/en^%%2B^2BE^2BEB8FDF%%canonical.tpl.php Line: 8 Type: Undefined index: page [19:46] * marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [19:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [19:47] confirm that you have the TPL file:02 wikiplugin_subscribenewsletter.tpl01 [19:49] 02The error looks like Tiki cannot read the file [19:49] ricks99, that's probably the problem. missing a whole folder there. uploading it now... thank you :) [19:49] 02you're welcome [19:49] 02ocassionaly, PHP does have useful error messages. :) [19:51] * ricks99_ has joined #tikiwiki [19:53] * ricks99 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:54] * ricks99_ is now known as ricks99 [19:54] * ricks99 is now known as ricks99_ [19:54] * ricks99_ is now known as ricks99 [19:57] * arildb_ has joined #tikiwiki [19:57] * arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:04] * Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [20:04] *** arildb_ is now known as arildb [20:05] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38006 10/trunk/_htaccess: [20:05] tikiwiki: htaccess: RewriteBase is not needed just because Tiki is not installed in the root. be vague instead [20:05] tikiwiki: [FIX] move PHP 4 block out of rewriting part [20:07] tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r38007 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_LinkTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [ENH] EditLib: Convert html links with anchors to wiki pages (still missing: line breaks) [20:10] * shana_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [20:17] * shaun_ has joined #tikiwiki [20:18] I was changing the title of the wiki etc. added a user. now I cant log in as admin or the user I added. I get this message(shortend). Fatal error:in TikiDb.php on line 162 [20:19] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38008 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Definition.php: [FIX] Field option was option as 1/0, but apparently some people also used y [20:20] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38009 10/trunk/_htaccess: [20:20] tikiwiki: [FIX] htaccess: move Redirect block out of rewriting part [20:20] tikiwiki: reorder trying to get rewriting at the end and optional parts closer [20:22] * ricks99 is now known as ricks99|away [20:22] * fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [20:23] Full error message: Fatal error: Maximum function nesting level of '100' reached, aborting! in C:\EasyPHP\www\tiki\lib\core\TikiDb.php on line 162 [20:29] tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38011 10/trunk/_htaccess: htaccess: reorder, getting most optional parts together [20:40] Nothing huh? [20:46] * lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:51] * shaun_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:54] what I do not understand: this year Rosch ha-Schana was at the 29. of September ? [20:59] * marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [21:02] * tikifestsherbroo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:05] * arildb has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:05] Jyhem and Jyhem_laptop are you there? [21:20] yes! [21:25] * redflo has joined #tikiwiki [21:56] * chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:00] * radek82 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:07] tikiwiki: 03mlustenberg * r38012 10/trunk/lib/ (test/editlib/ParseToWiki_LinkTest.php wiki/editlib.php): [ENH] EditLib: handling of line breaks within links to Wiki pages [22:15] New Forum Posts: Use side module for sub-menu - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42404 [22:37] * ricks99|away is now known as ricks99 [22:37] * ricks99 has quit IRC (Quit: Get the best-selling Tiki books (paperback and ebook) at http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/ricks99) [22:40] * ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [22:46] * chealer has joined #tikiwiki [22:46] * chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [22:46] * chealer has joined #tikiwiki [22:46] fabricius: Yes, first day of Rosh HaShana was Sep 29, started at nighfall on the 28th [22:48] but the guys wished a good year today [22:49] Bernard did [22:49] yes. Rosh HaShana is the Jewish new year [22:51] ah it is just a few days after - thatś why [22:51] maybe just an error 40, that I did not see, that we are just 6 days ahead of september [22:51] Traditionally, the week between Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur (which is this Saturday) is the new year greating [22:52] ah [22:52] the whole week [22:52] yup [22:53] for me september and october have been apart about a few month (if not a century) - such stuff happens to me from time to time, when I am sitting concentrated infront of my little laptop [22:54] I mean, I know when actually september happens [22:54] and october aswell [22:54] i know what you mean. Sometimes I look up from the screen and an entire week has gone by! [22:55] just sometimes I do not know wich day it is (if I would not have a certain appointment the next day9 [22:55] YES ricks99 something like that [22:56] what day is today? ahh sunny day not raining ... what time it is? ahh coffee and cigarette [22:56] lol [22:57] I want to write some documentation and do not find a start [22:57] wanted to talk with you [22:57] about [22:57] it [22:57] y, i saw your email. [22:58] i think, instead of documenting specific features, you should do a series of tutorials or guides that walk newbies through building different sites [22:58] that was my strategy with Smarties [22:58] what do you think - would the time been come now to write the "how to structure my Tiki think" [22:59] thing - not think sry misstype [22:59] be careful with the word "structure" though -- it has a special meaning in Tiki :-) [22:59] Yes, ricks99 - I am pregnant with some video stuff aswell [22:59] and it should be more kind of an overview [22:59] somewhere on t.o (or maybe branding.t.o) there's a list of Tiki use cases. [23:00] it would be nice if there was a 1-2-3 basic guide for each [23:00] * ricks99 has been wanting to do a sort of "101 Tiki Sites/Profiles" for a while now... [23:01] not explaining the feature in detail - not how it work or how to setup (thats classical doc) but more "what is it" and "what do I need for wich usecase" and "for what this and that is useful" [23:01] specifically for navigation, structuring, areas, perspectives [23:01] * ricks99 still has a lot to learn about perspectives. [23:02] what's this: 101 Tiki Sites/Profiles [23:03] An idea for my next site/book. To demonstrate 101 different Tiki possibilities (for example, a support site: wiki + tracker, a community forum: forums + calendar, a wikipedia clone: wiki, etc.) then include YAML profiles for each [23:04] coool [23:04] maybe you should hav a look at the site I am developing at the moment [23:05] i'd love to [23:06] http://go-man.wiki4.me/ [23:06] (domain is just a provisional project domain) [23:07] i like the design -- very colorful and inviting. [23:08] thank you [23:08] it is my first design from a blank page [23:09] it is a customized jqui.css [23:09] much better than my designs. i think i am "artisticlly challanged" :-) [23:10] hehe [23:10] did you see the areas? [23:11] not sure what you mean by "areas"? [23:11] did you click on one of the colored buttons? [23:12] oh. yes [23:12] just click through the secondary site menu [23:12] guess it? [23:13] yes. i like it via perspectives? each "area' is a different perspective? [23:13] it would be [23:14] this is the easy way to make up areas without perspectives (kind of simulated) [23:14] just modules visibility to category [23:14] ah [23:14] new made by jonny recently [23:15] was begging for that since tiki 3 [23:16] here I did set it up with the same "category tree" like I would need for areas with perspectives [23:16] it looks great [23:16] makes sense to keep an overview and kind of easy to switch to areas with perspectives [23:17] that would work with jespers perspective_binder then [23:17] and category jail [23:17] Jens did integrate Jespers file a few days ago [23:18] yes. i recall seeing something about that [23:19] with both methods the categorised content is kind of bound to the certain areas [23:20] with the binder, the areas are more clean, more complete, but without it is quicker to setup - depending on the certain needs [23:21] only thing with this method would be, that you need the {INCLUDE} if you want content in certain areas, but not in all or in only one [23:22] for ex. the "prototyping" remark is included [23:22] right [23:23] some of the design stuff is "hardcoded" in the single css, but should be moved in "options" [23:23] some issues are not yet solved [23:23] but one cool thing is the "selfcreating menu" [23:24] - in the internal area [23:24] just a wikistructure for a group and a wikistructure-menu lefthand [23:25] I like the ide, that a content written in an area just can automatically appear in the lefthand menu [23:26] idea [23:26] * redflo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [23:27] but that does not work with normal wikilink - when you write links to unexisting pages and create them later [23:27] ah. yes, tat would be an issue [23:28] so Jens and me discussed to switch the autocategorise pages in structure around to autostructure categorised pages [23:28] I think that must work [23:29] you know - just lookup the structures rootpages area-category and if the category matches, put the page in this structure [23:29] what do you think? [23:30] it should work. would that be upon page creation? [23:32] yes, I think that would make sense [23:32] I think, whenever you categorise a page [23:34] hold on a moment. gotta step away for second or 2 [23:34] brb [23:34] * chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [23:38] kk