#tikiwiki 2011-10-12,Wed

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nkoth\|nelson	the manage translation is messed up for me in 8.x I can't llink a page to the translation set anymore	[00:03]
Trebly	<marclaporte>Hi, Marc. I am still working... in silence. I have a detail problem. When Xdebug is used and vars are dumped before the tiki open session this naturally crashes because of the implicit session opened (without management) by any print of data. This with 7.1 and later. Before (with 6.x), I used a modified session manager to avoid this issue. No time to search, I must go right to the change to do (don't re-open)	[00:07]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r38180 10/branches/8.x/lang/nds/language.php: [tra] further Loew German progress	[00:10]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r38182 10/branches/8.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: tagging some prefs as experimental	[00:55]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38183 10/branches/8.x/templates/trackerinput/autoincrement.tpl: [FIX] existing field value not showing	[01:29]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38184 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Language.php: [FIX] CSV mode should use plain value	[02:30]
nkoth\|nelson	In smarty 3 is there no way to get at the smarty template vars in a funciton anymore?	[02:30]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Receiving Notices of Upgrades Only? - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=42454	[02:34]
chealer	nkoth\|nelson: http://www.smarty.net/docs/en/api.get.template.vars.tpl ?	[02:36]
nkoth\|nelson	chealer, thanks, but I think my question is misleading, the problem I am facing is somewhere else	[02:37]
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nkoth\|nelson	I'm trying to find the spot where pretty field ids get replaced	[02:38]
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chealer	oh, trackers. not my area I guess :-(	[02:40]
nkoth\|nelson	because {$f_15} is being replaced when in the wiki text but if used as an argument to a plugin it is no loger bening done	[02:40]
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coaboa\|afk	Good Morning Tikiverse	[03:15]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38185 10/branches/8.x/tiki-list_object_permissions.php: [SEC] List object permissions: use check_authenticity() (from r37316)	[03:19]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38186 10/branches/8.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] Pretty trackers fields when used as arguments to plugins were not being replaced	[05:16]
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chibaguy	polom	[06:03]
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chibaguy	In Tiki 8 (due to Smarty 3 I guess) code from a .tpl file can't just be pasted into a module any more. I wonder what is needed to do that. (For the Tikipedia theme, I moved wiki-topline code - icons for print, watch, etc. - into a custom module.) "Warning: Please contact support about failure in .../lib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_template.php on line 434" ... when code from a .tpl file is used as custom module data. I wonder if the code can be wrapped or tweaked or something. Umm, after more checking, apparently _any_ custom module data will cause that error (custom modules are broken at r38186). in svn branch 8.	[06:32]
fabricius	thats bad!	[06:48]
chibaguy	hi fabricius. I hope there's an easy fix for that. Of course, others should confirm if this is happening.	[06:55]
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fabricius	I had a similar problem with module_menu and custom module but no error message on the first view not related with smarty, but do noit know exactly have to go to work now - will report in the list	[07:24]
chibaguy	I saw the error in FF when not logged in. When logged in with Opera, no message appeared.	[07:27]
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Merbster	Goodmorning	[07:42]
fabricius	off to work bye all	[07:48]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38187 10/branches/8.x/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] avatar: Restrict avatar files to images (thanks marclaporte)	[10:06]
luciash	polom	[10:14]
Merbster	polom Note to IIS users who likes their Xdebug: Don't EVER set a directory as virtual application, if you do you can never debug PHP code in that directory, ever again, even if you remove the "virtual application" on it.	[10:15]
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luciash	hm, creativecommons.org does exist no more ? http://creativecommons.org/licenses/LGPL/2.1/ redirects me to gnu.org from the installer there used to be user friendly version easy to read in many languages so it is not true the sentence in the installer anymore :-p	[10:54]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38188 10/trunk/ (11 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) tikiwiki: [REF][FIX] wysiwyg: Wide scale refactoring of recently added global vars to tikiwiki: track wysiwyg and html modes for editing. Use pre-existing $is_html and tikiwiki: $_SESSION['wysiwyg'] instead as these already have the info we need to determine tikiwiki: parsing. tikiwiki: Allow HTML checkbox now exposed for pages in htmltowiki mode to cope with pages converted in html mode (and hidden input set when in html only mode). tikiwiki: Avoid parsing to html twice when htmltowiki (as it's also done for plugins). tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38189 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_listpages.php: [FIX] typo missing spaces	[11:26]
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oeversetten1	polom	[11:38]
Merbster	hi oeversetten1	[11:39]
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oeversetten1	since when there is a 1 after my name?	[11:40]
luciash	oeversetten1: since 13:36 :)	[11:40]
Merbster	since now? :P	[11:41]
oeversetten1	funny	[11:41]
Merbster	hilarious ;)	[11:41]
oeversetten1	just go by to ask someone to add something to proposal 6.x i noticed for a few minutes ago there is a reset of DirectoryIndex in the .htaccess	[11:41]
arildb	ha ha ha...good one luciash	[11:42]
oeversetten1	but only to tiki-index.php, so the problem is, if someone calls a subdirectory directly, you get a directory listing and the index.php there is futile	[11:44]
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jonnyb	oeversetten1: interesting point but isn't that down to your server settings?	[11:45]
luciash	listing dir is server config you can add it to .htaccess too, yep	[11:46]
oeversetten1	yes, but the variable DirectoryIndex is reset intikis .htaccess	[11:46]
luciash	noindex hm, didn't spotted that one yet that problem	[11:46]
jonnyb	seems to be the case should be fixed in 8.x forst (first ;) )	[11:47]
oeversetten1	hehe, vowels are so replaceable, in low german it's först ;)	[11:48]
luciash	:)	[11:48]
jonnyb	nice	[11:48]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38190 10/trunk/ (12 files in 8 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 38175 to 38187	[11:52]
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ricks99	polom y'all	[12:07]
luciash	hey ricks99	[12:08]
ricks99	hiya luciash	[12:09]
Merbster	Merbster shakes a fist at PHPDesigner for not supporting remote debugging	[12:15]
	"Category identifier" would mean "name of the category" or would it mean "numeric identifier"	[12:24]
luciash	i'd say numeric id btw, van there be categories of same name ? s/van/can/	[12:27]
ricks99	depends on the context	[12:31]
Merbster	I haven't tested it	[12:31]
ricks99	do you mean "unique" category ID ID usually means an ID number (for US English, anyway)	[12:31]
luciash	id is always unique number this is weird - why in Tiki 6.4 fresh install the links to apply profile point to 7.x profiles ? the featured ones luciash wonders why his questions are always so complicated to answer :-p	[12:32]
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Tiki\|bot	Info: Tiki Mailing Lists Pass 100,000 Messages - http://info.tiki.org/article178-Tiki-Mailing-Lists-Pass-100-000-Messages	[13:04]
Trebly	<jonnyb> Hi, sorry but I go on the precedent subject. I made track (not still full) but var_dump of $_server and smarty->get_template_vars(). The problem seems to come from the fact that on the same machine I connect to the same server with two server names (Servername and ServerAlias). So something happens with session and cookies management. Normally the user can open several tabs for a site, but as tiki doesn't know that "Servername and ServerAlias" are the same, there is a treatment error without error report, but Apache crash (error not caught). Sometimes an "header already sent". I go on to check this, and to find where is this 'no-error' !!! <jonnyb> This can happens with cache and cookies to anybody of my users	[13:06]
jonnyb	hi Trebly - sorry, but same reply as before - sounds like an apache setup issue	[13:11]
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chibaguy	jonnyb, thanks for the reply about custom modules in branch 8. I then checked my localhost install, and no problem with custom modules. A mystery why one remote server isn't displaying custom module content.	[13:23]
luciash	chibaguy: it is not a mystery	[13:24]
jonnyb	yes, odd...	[13:24]
chibaguy	Oh.	[13:24]
jonnyb	no?	[13:24]
luciash	chibaguy: i already soluted that once with you iirc chibaguy: it is the web hosting setup	[13:24]
chibaguy	chibaguy 's face turns red.	[13:24]
luciash	a2hosting iirc	[13:24]
chibaguy	yep sorry, luciash, can you refresh my mental caches? ;-)	[13:24]
luciash	chibaguy: hello red boy btw :) i'll try to dig it up, just a moment	[13:25]
chibaguy	hello helpful font of information	[13:25]
luciash	and hi jonny too !	[13:26]
jonnyb	hi luciash	[13:26]
chibaguy	I wish my on-paper notes had a search function. I guess they do, but I'm it, so not too efficient.	[13:26]
luciash	http://tiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?find=a2hosting&boolean=on&boolean_last=y&search=Search&exact_match= sorry, maybe it wasn't you but i thought we talked about it at least here on irc chibaguy: it's in the Architecture/Installation forum thread	[13:27]
chibaguy	yes, I see, thanks. The conversation about eval does sound familiar; I guess I forgot that it involved custom modules.	[13:29]
Trebly	<jonnyb> I believe No, the "error" into the second part of tiki-setup after the vars are assigned to smarty. Theirs vars have differences because of the cookie and site name. From a second computer, normally clean, with the ServerAlias I get the error "header already sent". I try to find short runways, but I know that with my tracks I will find the problem, needs simply time. And it is not sure that the solution is simple. Thanks	[13:30]
chibaguy	(well, was another guy posting the question in the forum, but same problem.	[13:30]
luciash	chibaguy: yep, but since i remember you chosen a2hosting too i somehow thought we were talking about it already here because i knew you will need solution for it too	[13:32]
chibaguy	I didn't think about the hosting company because I have other Tiki installations on the same server that have custom modules.	[13:32]
luciash	chibaguy: really ? i wonder when the eval function is used then ... maybe only when parse as wiki is checked ?	[13:33]
chibaguy	Well, my module that failed wasn't parsing as wiki. Even a plain text string caused the error.	[13:34]
luciash	eh, and isn't it PHP version dependent ? i mean maybe the other Tiki installations run on different	[13:35]
chibaguy	servers?	[13:37]
luciash	php version	[13:39]
chibaguy	the branch 8 I was trying with is just in a subdirectory of the web root. There's a tiki 7 in the root that works, or did, though it seems a bit flakey. at the moment.	[13:41]
luciash	ah, hmm, strange, maybe it applies only on the root ? no idea... i think you need to talk about it with the hosting company if it persist	[13:42]
chibaguy	I have several other 'add-on' domains in subdirectories of web root and can add custom modules.	[13:45]
luciash	nevertheless... it must be the web hosting config if it works on your local	[13:46]
chibaguy	yep, must be.	[13:47]
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chealer	luciash: I believe the link to creative commons was fixed in trunk	[14:02]
luciash	chealer: ah, thx for info	[14:03]
chibaguy	luciash, that's the only branch 8 installation I have at that hosting company. I have branch 7 installs there, and no problem with custom modules. I'll try another branch 8 and see what happens.	[14:13]
luciash	maybe it is different function then and they allow eval() globally already after customers complaint s	[14:13]
chibaguy	(these installs are mostly in webroot subdirectories, as 'add-on' domains or just subdirectory installations.	[14:14]
luciash	and this one can be smarty 3 related i would try to contact the support first maybe to save you some brain cells ;)	[14:14]
chibaguy	yes, good idea. Is it safe to svn switch from branch 8 to branch 7? or would that mess up the db or something?	[14:15]
luciash	well, if you have empty db	[14:18]
chibaguy	right.	[14:18]
luciash	u will need to re-run the installer maybe and repopulate the db	[14:18]
chibaguy	well, a lot of trouble for a test site. ;-) chibaguy senses brain cells weakening....	[14:19]
luciash	heh	[14:19]
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chealer	polom	[14:39]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38191 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_galleriffic.php: [FIX] typo Width -> Height	[14:39]
luciash	polom chealer	[14:40]
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Merbster	Can somebody verify some code for me in Tiki 8 svn ? it seems there's a bug a whole chain of functions where itemId is expected as parameter and suddenly it changes to pageName. objectlib.php line 136 where it calls get_page_info	[15:17]
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remember	i want to know how to make yahoo news like site with tiki	[15:21]
ricks99	remember: you can easily syndicate RSS fees from other sites onto a page in Tiki	[15:23]
remember	will it displays news like yahoo or it will just only display text link then redirects to feed site	[15:24]
ricks99	will display the name of the source, XX characters from the feed, and and link to original article	[15:25]
remember	what if one needs to have themes other than tiki's . from where i can get it	[15:27]
chealer	Merbster: what does the bug cause?	[15:27]
Merbster	chealer, well in objectlib.php where it calls get_page_info it sends in itemId (and also in the functions "above" that one in hte call hierarchy)	[15:28]
ricks99	remember: pls see themes.tiki.org or you can easily customize & create your own. see docs for details	[15:28]
Merbster	but when you go into get_page_info the input param is named "pagename"	[15:28]
remember	thanks....	[15:29]
Merbster	chealer, even in the SQL calls it suddenly shifts to pagename chealer, I used the "categorize_any" function	[15:29]
chealer	Merbster: so you don't know what the bug's impact would be, it's just code that looks wrong?	[15:29]
Merbster	chealer, I tried to categorize a wikipage I jsut created and categorize_any throws an "objectId cannot be null" error. chealer, so the code in the call heirarchy stops expetinc a numeric ID and starts going by pagename chealer, do you understand what I am mumbling about? :P	[15:29]
chealer	Merbster: better now. are the code expects numeric ids?	[15:31]
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chealer	Merbster: are you sure the code expects numeric ids?	[15:31]
Merbster	chealer, in my world identifier is long version of "id" which I would expect to be numeric chealer, I even asked here earlier today and luciash agreed	[15:32]
chealer	Merbster: an identifier is not necessarily numeric. for example, your name is an identifier. A page's name can also be an identifier.	[15:33]
Merbster	chealer, also if I follow the call hierarchy from categlib->categorize_any I hit the objectlib->add_object() function and it says $itemId in the function definition hmm my memory suddenly started wiki pages itemId is a god damn string. chealer, ok. I understand now. it's not a direct bug, just a DB design that doesn't follow 3rd normal form - which I am used to. Merbster thinks the Tiki DB is a bit like the wild west	[15:34]
oeversetten1	oeversetten1 agrees	[15:37]
Merbster	chealer, thanks - wiothout you my trail of thought would not go this way :) now I go home from work	[15:39]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38192 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations + some corrections tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38193 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r38192][TRA] more French translations	[15:41]
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nkoth\|nelson	hi, using Tiki 8, and the mysterious tracker field disappearing problem happened to me again	[15:52]
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nkoth\|nelson	Created the field again and manually changed the ID in the database tiki_tracker_fields and all is good, but when this happened about a month ago I thought I was dreaming but this is worrying now - jonnyb remember I asked you abt this before?	[16:01]
jonnyb	hi nkoth\|nelson - i had that (not nice) yes, i had it on my localhost too	[16:01]
nkoth\|nelson	it only seems to happen when I am creating many new fields, I wonder what is the exact sequence of event s that led up to it.... (it is not readily reproducable)	[16:02]
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jonnyb	i'm pretty sure it happened to me in Boston too - tiki 7ish days	[16:02]
jcyrisse	oh gosh…i did something really bad	[16:02]
jonnyb	not worked out what causes it	[16:03]
chealer	hi jonnyb, nkoth\|nelson	[16:03]
jonnyb	hi chealer	[16:03]
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jcyrisse	i changed a setting under security and now can't view my pages remotely at all good grief…stupid…anyone have a tip how i can get in to fix that other than perhaps resetting in the database directly?	[16:03]
jonnyb	jcyrisse: can you get to your database in phpmyadmin?	[16:04]
luciash	luciash knows itemId only in context of Trackers	[16:04]
jonnyb	you should be able to reset the pref (table tiki_preferences)	[16:04]
jcyrisse	trying to see if i can now not able to connect yet trying thru cpanel now...	[16:04]
luciash	jcyrisse: if you chaned something else on that page before, you can go back in history in your browser and resubmit the form to prvious state	[16:06]
jcyrisse	tried that already	[16:06]
luciash	jcyrisse: if not, then only way is db manipulation	[16:06]
jcyrisse	k…in phpmyadmin	[16:09]
nkoth\|nelson	jonnyb: when it happened to you, do you remember if it was the first field in the tracker that disappeared?	[16:09]
jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson: no, i don't think it was - the trouble was i didn't notice when it happened	[16:10]
jcyrisse	lol..now, finding exactly what the last thing was I changed…grrr…what a newb!	[16:17]
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jcyrisse	it had to do with security and CR…is that tickets? feature ticketlib	[16:21]
jonnyb	feature_ticketlib - could be	[16:22]
jcyrisse	k…will try that	[16:22]
jonnyb	or feature_ticketlib2	[16:22]
jcyrisse	cause not seeing anything else regarding security…yes…there is a ticket lib and ticketlib2	[16:23]
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jcyrisse	grrr….not seeing a thing all blank page	[16:25]
jonnyb	sometimes going to yousite.com/logout helps (but you might not be able to log in again obviously...)	[16:25]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38194 10/branches/8.x/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tabs.php: [FIX] Pretty tracker vars not being parsed within tabs plugin	[16:26]
jcyrisse	well crap whew…k…fixed it good grief i really hate when i do something stupid heheh thanks jonnyb and luciash	[16:27]
jonnyb	well done, it's a worrying thing when that happens	[16:29]
jcyrisse	yes…especially to know it is your fault too...LOL i am getting so much spam on my site…was trying to look at security k…think the culprit was the HTML purifier	[16:29]
luciash	jcyrisse: using the Reaptcha ? *ReCaptcha	[16:36]
jcyrisse	from google? no.. k…just did so so, do i still keep the anonymous CAPTCHA selected too? or just the ReCaptcha	[16:37]
luciash	keep	[16:42]
jcyrisse	k…tyvm	[16:42]
luciash	the ReCaptcha just enhances the feature	[16:42]
jcyrisse	got it	[16:42]
luciash	you should get much less spam now	[16:42]
jcyrisse	k…bother question…regarding CSRF security…what should i use there?	[16:43]
luciash	the default should be good enough	[16:48]
jcyrisse	ok…tyvm	[16:48]
luciash	the second one is sometimes too restrictive	[16:48]
jcyrisse	so, is default none selected? or the top choice?	[16:49]
luciash	default is when there is no green returning icon "resetting"	[16:49]
jcyrisse	in 6.4?	[16:50]
luciash	yes if u modify a setting, a green icon appears next to it which indicates you can reset it back to default	[16:50]
jcyrisse	hmmm…del, don't see any green returning icons…either way, if checked or not checked	[16:50]
luciash	after apply it appears	[16:51]
jcyrisse	yup…even then	[16:51]
luciash	iirc	[16:51]
jcyrisse	no green icon	[16:51]
luciash	hmm, weird, i have it	[16:51]
jcyrisse	yeah…i have seen it other places…. but i don't see it here i have the first choice to require confirmation, but not a ticket	[16:51]
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luciash	on security page > spam protection i can see them	[16:52]
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jcyrisse	nope…no green icons for me	[16:52]
luciash	jcyrisse: ok, default is no Require confirmation if possible CSRF detected and checked Protect from CSRF .... that one i have enabled	[16:52]
jcyrisse	so unchecked then, ok	[16:53]
luciash	first unchecked, second checked actually	[16:53]
jcyrisse	yup	[16:53]
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RobertPlummer	polom all polom lphuberdeau lphuberdeau: I was messing around with syntax highlighter yesterday, and all was going very well. lphuberdeau: And then we went to play with plugin insertAt, and we noticed a syntax failure, you don't know what happened, do you? lphuberdeau: Seems like the tiki-js.js integration with WYSIWYG has caused a failure or override.	[20:09]
arildb	Hi, I am running a test on IIS, Tiki 8 Beta. When SEFURL is activated comments below wiki pages don't work. When I turn SEFURL off it works OK. Does anybody same effect on Linux/Apache? The effect is that the "Comments" section does not open when SEFURL is activated	[20:18]
	Some more checking...When clicking on "Comments"... without SEFURL (OK): ..../tiki-ajax_services.php?controller=comment&action=list&type=wiki+page&objectId=aSuggestedNomination with SEFURL (FAILS): ..../tiki-comment-list?type=wiki+page&objectId=aSuggestedNomination	[20:25]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38196 10/branches/8.x/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: tikiwiki: [FIX] Fix plugin dialog to obtain syntaxHighlighter value on dialog close tikiwiki: [FIX] Removed obscure textarea call that isn't needed	[20:28]
arildb	It's strange that different php calls are made with and without SEFURL. Any ideas?	[20:28]
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RobertPlummer	arildb: I would help out, but I really don't know. arildb: Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you.	[20:29]
arildb	RobertPlummer: no problem...I am trying to somebody who is a bit more familiar with this functionality.	[20:30]
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oeversetten	polom i have a question about pretty tracker wiki output	[20:34]
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oeversetten	if I have a date field it outputs me not a human readable date but a longer integer, I wonder how to prevent this?	[20:37]
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chealer	hi oeversetten	[20:45]
oeversetten	hi chealer	[20:46]
SJ-Jay	late polom! :) oversetten you need to set a date format	[20:48]
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chealer	hi arildb. works fine on Debian: http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/tiki-index.php	[20:49]
oeversetten	SJ-Jay: where?	[20:49]
arildb	chealer: Thanks for testing. May imply that it has something to do with web.config	[20:49]
SJ-Jay	um.. wait a sec, i recall that i used it lately.. just have to find the template :)	[20:50]
chealer	arildb: indeed. https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/36594/trunk/_htaccess must need porting for IIS. there are probably many other changes that need porting too	[20:50]
arildb	chealer: right	[20:51]
SJ-Jay	oeversetten, i used this: {$f_created\|date_format:"%d/%m/%y %H:%M"} date formats are described here: http://php.net/manual/en/function.date.php	[20:52]
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chealer	arildb: I'm thinking we could mark SEFURL as experimental, but only on IIS	[20:55]
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RobertPlummer	chealer, can you check out syntaxHighlighter once more and let me know your results?	[20:56]
chealer	RobertPlummer: oh, r38196 should fix the CODE plugin issue? sure	[20:57]
arildb	chealer: Maybe. However, we are planning to use SEFURL in our project. The current testing is done on IIS. So, I will probably give it a bit of testing in the coming time. Let's review the status in a couple of weeks. If still not OK, it should be experimental	[20:57]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Yes, I believe so.	[20:57]
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chealer	arildb: OK, good. the idea is just to acknowledge the status if it's unreliable. did you already mail the development list about how web.config should be dealt with?	[20:58]
arildb	chealer: not sure what you mean	[20:59]
oeversetten	SJ-Jay: does not work :(	[20:59]
SJ-Jay	hmm brb	[20:59]
chealer	arildb: nevermind	[20:59]
RobertPlummer	Anyone for a good laugh?.... http://www.despair.com/acquisition.html	[21:02]
chealer	RobertPlummer: seems to work. is it normal that only the opening tab of a plugin is highlighted (green)?	[21:03]
RobertPlummer	chealer: I saw that, if you put a space between the closing tag and the content, it fixes it. chealer: Very odd indeed. I looked at the parser, I couldn't fix it quickly, so I figure I will visit it when I have more time. chealer: If you want to take a look at it, it would be nice to have another person understand the parser than just myself. /lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tiki/tiki.js	[21:04]
chealer	RobertPlummer: OK, confirmed	[21:05]
RobertPlummer	Probably some regex is eating it up. Just need to add the extra character, or make sure it isn't being included. one or the other.	[21:05]
chealer	RobertPlummer: hehe, indeed, but I don't really feel like checking the parser in its current state RobertPlummer: are you talking about the CodeMirror parser or parse_data()?	[21:06]
RobertPlummer	codemirror parser (that is why I included the link above)	[21:06]
chealer	RobertPlummer: oh, yeah. I'd be less reluctant to look at that one, but I feel it's less prioritary too, and I'm not a parsing expert :-(	[21:08]
RobertPlummer	Codemirror has a nice method that we use that eats up the regular characters called "eatWhile", they need a method call "eatUntill".	[21:08]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I thought you were doing so well that would be easy for you :-P	[21:08]
RobertPlummer	chealer, it is all time, and today I'm out for this project.	[21:09]
chealer	RobertPlummer: yeah, no problem, it's minor RobertPlummer: it really seems fixed	[21:09]
RobertPlummer	lol I just fixed it lol	[21:10]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03oeversetten * r38197 10/branches/8.x/lang/nds/language.php: [tra] some Low German translations more	[21:10]
chealer	RobertPlummer: thanks	[21:10]
RobertPlummer	chealer: running update, will commit in a min I just turned off eatWhile. I was like, "I wonder...". whod-a-thunk-it. lol	[21:10]
chealer	RobertPlummer: oh, the closing tag thing. cool :-) RobertPlummer: I just notice another problem, I was testing with {CODE(caption="Hello World" colors="php plain")}$message = "Hello World!"; var_dump($message);	[21:11]
RobertPlummer	Probably more work for the parser, but it seems fine on my system.	[21:11]
chealer	$a = 1;{CODE}	[21:11]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Yea, it isn't going to support sections of code like that. As far as I know.	[21:12]
chealer	RobertPlummer: this small bit gets 2 scrollbars (one horizontal, one vertical. is that normal? I know we just discussed a problem with wrapping of long lines	[21:13]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38198 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/mode/tiki/tiki.js: [FIX] Turned off eatWhile to support better plugin parsing	[21:13]
RobertPlummer	chealer, yes, I think we can turn on scroll: auto, but it may still get those same results depending on the browser. chealer: Just something to overlook for now. Perhaps we can use jQuery UI scrollable in the future. But I am not going to add it in pre-release mode.	[21:14]
chealer	RobertPlummer: so now it's using scroll: "always"?	[21:14]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Perhaps. chealer: It acts just like a code text editor. chealer: A very small thing though with it all working imho. chealer: Indeed, auto has much better results. I just switched it.	[21:15]
chealer	RobertPlummer: OK. also, did you see the problem with code on the left of the Services page ( http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/Services )?	[21:17]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Fixing as well.	[21:19]
chealer	RobertPlummer: it should look more like http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/trunk/Services	[21:19]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38199 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/ (codemirror_tiki.css codemirror_tiki.js): [FIX] Overflow auto and width of parent "CodeMirror" container	[21:20]
RobertPlummer	chealer: svn up	[21:20]
arildb	chealer: I did an import of .htaccess using the URL Rewrite import. 73 rules detected, compared to 66 present in the web.config file. I believe you did the last conversion. Anything in particular to take care of when doing the conversion by import? ...I do get a couple of warnings...	[21:20]
chealer	RobertPlummer: confirmed, r38198 solves my problem with closing tags thanks	[21:20]
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RobertPlummer	chealer: Let me know when you are done with the svn up, I want to see the results.	[21:21]
chealer	RobertPlummer: updated and fixed! thanks http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/SamplePageB	[21:22]
Protogenes	hi, is there a working phpbb3 to tiki importer? i found some rather old things with google, but no information, if they still work	[21:22]
chealer	arildb: cool. hard to say, I only did a conversion at the beginning (maybe after pascalstjean). maybe I had to fix the conversion, will try to look	[21:23]
RobertPlummer	chealer: What about http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/Services ? chealer: I still see the width problem on there.	[21:23]
arildb	chealer: I will try the converted file on my test server to see how it works	[21:24]
chealer	RobertPlummer: true, it's still there on some plugin calls. that page is particularly broken	[21:25]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38200 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: [FIX] Width fix again, for parent rather that sibling, wrong target on last	[21:25]
RobertPlummer	chealer: svn up again. I had the wrong selector in there, .CodeMirror isn't a sibling, it is the parent. chealer: WOOHOO! It fixed it! Codemirror = good to go!	[21:25]
chealer	RobertPlummer: did it? I updated but I see it the same way	[21:27]
arildb	chealer: that fixed the comments problem :-) ...will do some more testing before committing.	[21:27]
RobertPlummer	chealer: What page?	[21:28]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I'm looking for example at the pre-last CODE use on http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/Services. do you see both scrollbars on that?	[21:28]
arildb	chealer: There are some comments in the .htaccess file, e.g. "Rewrite rule to make this Tiki a profiles repository (uncomment to enable)". I assume that these can simply be ignored and deleted.	[21:28]
chealer	RobertPlummer: "{Hello World in Pascal}"	[21:28]
RobertPlummer	chealer: What web browser are you using?	[21:29]
chealer	RobertPlummer: what seems to happen is that if CODE would need one scrollbar, it puts both RobertPlummer: Iceweasel (Firefox) 7, but I see the same in Chromium	[21:29]
Protogenes	hi, anyone?	[21:29]
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chealer	RobertPlummer: so if the content is too large, a vertical bar appears, and if it's more than 3 lines, a horizontal bar appears	[21:30]
arildb	Protogenes: I don't think there is a phpbb3 importer. There is a MediaWiki and a Word Press importer, as far as I can see	[21:31]
Protogenes	i saw them too. okay so i'm probably not porting to tiki	[21:31]
chealer	hum, on another page, 4 lines is OK	[21:32]
Protogenes	thank you arildb	[21:32]
arildb	Protogenes: You are always welcome to create one ;-)	[21:33]
chealer	oh, it's OK for some	[21:33]
Protogenes	i'm neither goog at php nor forum software :P	[21:33]
chealer	RobertPlummer: OK, the issue is funky...	[21:35]
Protogenes	http://sumwars.org/usage/ do i read that right? 900Tb in a year=?! sorry wrong window	[21:35]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38201 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: [FIX] Moved sizing to find objects without tricky jQuery methods, to make it more stable and actually work.	[21:36]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Try it now.	[21:36]
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RobertPlummer	chealer: svn up	[21:36]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38202 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: [FIX] Added parent (codelisting) in the resizing mix, seems that codelisting wasn't respecting sizes	[21:39]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Once more.	[21:40]
chealer	RobertPlummer: done, but doesn't seem to help with the issue I'm seeing... compare http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/tiki-index.php?page=SamplePageB with http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=SamplePageB&preview=38 RobertPlummer: if you look at the current version, it's clear that the first call's height is influenced by the content of the second call (they're both the same, and uselessly high for the first)	[21:40]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Did you svn up to 38202?	[21:42]
chealer	RobertPlummer: yes. do you see what I'm saying on my site?	[21:42]
arildb	chealer: One rule fails to import. Here are the details.... In .htaccess # Apache does not pass Authorization header to CGI scripts # Rewrite rules for passing authorisation in CGI or FGI mode RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.) RewriteRule ^(.) - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%1] import error <!--The rule cannot be converted into an equivalent IIS format because of unsupported flags: E-->	[21:43]
chealer	RobertPlummer: BTW, you should see the version in Admin General, if you want to rule out PEBKACs ;-)	[21:43]
arildb	chealer: any thoughts?	[21:44]
chealer	RobertPlummer: hehe, cool picture ;-)	[21:45]
RobertPlummer	chealer: lol, thanks. chealer: I'm going to try and remove all that size goodness and make it dynamic. chealer: everything will be inherited.	[21:46]
chealer	arildb: well, the profiles rule is certainly not critical, nothing will break without it, but it could have a use on IIS. arildb: in practice though, there are few profile servers	[21:46]
arildb	chealer: OK, so I will ignore it for now chealer: There are a couple of non-imported rules: <clear /> <rule name="RequestBlockingRule1"> <match url=".*" /> <conditions logicalGrouping="MatchAll"> <add input="{URL}" pattern=".(bak\|inc\|lib\|sh\|tpl\|sql)$" /> </conditions> <action type="CustomResponse" statusCode="403" /> </rule>	[21:47]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38203 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/ (codemirror_tiki.css codemirror_tiki.js): [FIX] Removed all the resizing madness and am using inherited sizes now, they just weren't working like expected.	[21:47]
RobertPlummer	chealer: svn up, let me know.	[21:47]
arildb	chealer: Are these handled by web.configs in sub-dirs, so they are redundant. Or are they still needed at the top level? chealer: If you are not sure, I will keep them	[21:48]
chealer	RobertPlummer: done. I see the same problem on SamplePageB. do you see what I'm talking about, same height for both areas? that seems easy to reproduce. and also seems like a logic bug	[21:50]
RobertPlummer	chealer: I see it too, trying one more thing.	[21:51]
chealer	arildb: about HTTP_AUTHORIZATION, no idea, I don't understand what that rule is about	[21:52]
arildb	chealer: me neither. I will keep the other parts.	[21:54]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38204 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/ (codemirror_tiki.css codemirror_tiki.js): [FIX] Made the textarea that is created for read only items display block to fix some instances.	[21:57]
RobertPlummer	chealer: svn up	[21:57]
chealer	arildb: RequestBlockingRule1 should not be needed, but it's a nice severity. why isn't it imported?	[21:58]
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chealer	arildb: as you say, sub-dirs should already block them	[21:59]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Well that didn't work.	[21:59]
arildb	chealer: Not sure. All the imported rules are marked as "Imported Rule 2". So it appears to be a manually added rule. chealer: I will keep it	[21:59]
chealer	RobertPlummer: no, update complete.	[22:00]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38205 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.css: [FIX] Trying once more with a fully hidden textarea	[22:00]
RobertPlummer	chealer: again, svn up	[22:00]
arildb	chealer: btw. now I understand your previous comment, and I will send an email about rule sync'ing	[22:00]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03arildb * r38206 10/branches/8.x/web_config: [FIX] Synchonize web.config rewrite rules with the latest .htaccess rules	[22:02]
chealer	RobertPlummer: done, still there :-/ arildb: :-)	[22:02]
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RobertPlummer	chealer: I don't know what to tell you.	[22:02]
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RobertPlummer	Fancy table is messing everything up.	[22:02]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I see a <div style="position: relative; height: 52px; width: 1442px;"> that height is OK RobertPlummer: but it's inside a <div class="CodeMirror-scroll cm-s-default" style="width: 1452px; height: 144px;">	[22:03]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38207 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.css: [FIX] Wrong display type.	[22:04]
chealer	which is the height appropriate for the second call (updated to r38207) unfortunately I have no idea where <div class="CodeMirror-scroll cm-s-default" style="width: 1452px; height: 144px;"> comes from if I disable it, it defaults to .CodeMirror-scroll {height: 300px;} if I disable that one too, then it's fine	[22:04]
RobertPlummer	chealer: I don't think the width is being sent correctly. chealer: I've removed all my height width adjustment, that is being done inside codemirror. They are then doing it incorrectly. But other than that, the width of those elements isn't being transfered correctly. I'm out of time. chealer if you can fix it, please do, but that is all I have time for today.	[22:07]
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chealer	:-/ arildb: seems I didn't have to re-work the original web_config we had at all	[22:09]
arildb	chealer: The auto-conversion seems to work well	[22:12]
chealer	impressive arildb: Pascal St-Jean created web_config with the help of Wade Hilmo, in a single commit. I don't know what's behind RequestBlockingRule1, I wasn't with them at the time.	[22:13]
arildb	chealer: Let's keep it. I don't think it will do any harm. Seems to block out unwanted file loading. I will be testing SEFURL a bit. So, if it does have side-effects hopefully they will be detected.	[22:15]
chealer	arildb: so you ran a new conversion? you were just looking at the difference with the previous file?	[22:15]
arildb	chealer: I converted the latest version og _htaccess. Then replaced all rules marked as imported.	[22:16]
chealer	arildb: I see. big diff. hopefully the next one will be readable if I don't play with htaccess before the next sync chealer checks tiki-devel	[22:18]
arildb	chealer: The procedure is very quick. Only takes a few minutes, when you know how to do it. ...The only obstacle was that I didn't see the "Import" menu option. So, I had to browse to the correct folder with the _htaccess before it became availabel.	[22:19]
chealer	arildb: cool. thanks for the update	[22:20]
arildb	chealer: :-)...I am testing now. Looks good so far	[22:20]
chealer	arildb: I read your mail. I think we should add a comment for developers in htaccess about synchronization	[22:20]
arildb	chealer: If you want. Will it be read? I think that we only need to keep an eye on things.	[22:21]
chealer	arildb: surely not in all cases, but others should make it worth it	[22:25]
arildb	There is still a problem with SEFURL when using links and the target page is renamed. When SEFURL is activated the reference links are not updated (in WYSIWYG). Without SEFURL it works fine. There is a warning about this in the textarea admin panel: "Note that if the SEFURL feature is on, page links created using wysiwyg might not be automatically updated when pages are renamed. This is planned to be addressed through the future "Use Wiki syntax in WYSIWYG" feature." Anybody that knows if this issue has particular complexities?	[22:35]
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SJ-Jay	hey guys have you ever used the img plugin for swf files in filegallery?	[22:50]
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chealer	chealer thinks anything involving the parse has a certain complexity :-S s/parse/parser/	[23:01]
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