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jp_	hi there, how can I filter trackerlist ta by field that contains text or not	[07:43]
Merbster	jp_, you can filter on fields in trackerlist.	[07:50]
jp_	or maybe use negation for filterfield Merbster, yes, that is what I normally do, but for now I have to filter trackerlist by field that is "" or not	[07:50]
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jp_	in case that is "" simple filtervalue="" do the thing, but how to negate such thing?	[07:53]
Merbster	jp_, I guess you have to experiment jp_, sometimesI look at the phpå code to figure out what options are available for ap lugin, the documentation is not always entirely up to date.	[07:53]
jp_	documentation usually isn't up to date ;) ok, I will go by php code, thanks	[07:59]
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Bernard1	:( sorry (r2l smileys) :D	[09:38]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r38313 10/branches/proposals/6.x/tiki-newsletter_archives.php: [FIX]Newsletter archives permission tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r38314 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/sent_newsletters.tpl: [FIX]Newsletter archives permission and style tag tikiwiki: 03yonixxx * r38315 10/branches/proposals/6.x/templates/tiki-newsletter_archives.tpl: [FIX]Newsletter archives permission and style tag	[10:24]
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Bernard1	Bernard1 crossing finger non will do "nou ! nou ! nou !" on me. :)	[10:38]
Merbster	I am using tikilib and categorieslib to write some glueware between wiki and our ERP system. But in order to use tiki's libs I need a session with a valid login. How would I login programmatically?	[10:48]
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Merbster	polom ricks99 and marclaporte	[11:13]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r38319 10/trunk/lib/ (articles/artlib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_articles.php): {ENF]ARTICLES: param articleId: to choose the article to display and notArticleId not to display article	[11:17]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r38321 10/trunk/ (lib/init/smarty.php tiki-edit_templates.php): [FIX] Try to fix Smarty {include} with the transition to Smarty 3	[12:22]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38323 10/branches/8.x/templates/tiki-list_trackers.tpl: [ENH] Layout improvement to avoid tiny columns	[12:49]
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Merbster	is tikilib->create_page() a performance hog?	[13:03]
lphuberdeau	Merbster: It does a lot of work but the bigger part of it these days is the fact that it updates the index too	[13:05]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, Ok. I was speculating it was something like that. Thanks for the verification. :)	[13:05]
lphuberdeau	If you need to call it multiple times, you'll get a performance bump by wrapping the series of calls around a transaction which will make sure the index is updated only once	[13:06]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, how can I do that? wrap it in a transaction that is.	[13:06]
lphuberdeau	$transaction = $tikilib->begin(); // ... $transaction->commit()	[13:06]
Merbster	And wrap it around tikilib->create_page ?	[13:07]
lphuberdeau	it's not an actual db transaction yet ;) well, multiple calls to create_page() groups the index writes	[13:07]
Merbster	ok. nice to know :)	[13:07]
lphuberdeau	but really, sites with large write volumes are better off disabling incremental indexing and doing a full re-index periodically you get stale index issues, but that's manageable in most cases	[13:08]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, I have been writing glueware last week that uses tikilib and categories lib to create pages and categories automatically based on data from our ERP system. lphuberdeau, So I don't mind if it takes a minute or two.	[13:09]
lphuberdeau	yup, that could benefit from a transaction	[13:09]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, will that "transaction" trick work with all calls to tikilib?	[13:10]
lphuberdeau	well, it's actually part of TikiDb	[13:10]
marclaporte	polom	[13:10]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, You are implying it will work everywhere? (that implements TikiDB)	[13:11]
lphuberdeau	but yeah, works with everything that involves the incremental indexing, and thanks to arildb, will also handle transactions when we make the switch to InnoDB official TikiDb::get()->begin() will work as well ;)	[13:11]
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lphuberdeau	it's not deployed much as it was pretty much added 2 weeks ago but it's currently used for a few batch operations	[13:13]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: A problem with user and group watches! - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42488	[13:14]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, what happens if several queries are executed within the aforementioned codeblock? several _different_ queries	[13:15]
lphuberdeau	in the future, it will create a database transaction, but for the moment, it's just a trick to prevent the index commit	[13:16]
Merbster	lphuberdeau, nice.	[13:17]
arildb	lphuberdeau and Merbster: Please not that if you intent to prepare for transactions, always contain the transaction scope within a try/catch block to make sure the transaction is completed as expected	[13:25]
lphuberdeau	arildb, my roadmap is to move most actions to the MVC broker and make sure transactions are handled properly at that level	[13:27]
arildb	lphuberdeau: ok	[13:27]
lphuberdeau	for the other places, it should be easy enough to grep the begin/commit usage and fix it later actually, they would be prime targets to move to MVC	[13:28]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r38325 10/branches/8.x/ (lib/init/smarty.php tiki-edit_templates.php): [FIX/bp 38321] Try to fix Smarty {include} with the transition to Smarty 3	[13:28]
Merbster	arildb, it is noted. Thanks :) I have a tiki 8 SVN which doesn't implement this (I only upgrade when I have a need and so far stuff is working here).	[13:34]
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RobertPlummer	marclaporte: polom marclaporte: Is there an existing feature in Tiki that allows you to moderate wiki?	[13:52]
marclaporte	yes	[13:53]
RobertPlummer	marclaporte: url?	[13:53]
marclaporte	http://doc.tiki.org/Flagged+Revisions	[13:53]
RobertPlummer	cool!	[13:54]
	marclaporte: Working on textback-link protocol	[13:59]
chealer	polom	[14:01]
	Bernard1: are you here?	[14:07]
RobertPlummer	chealer: polom chealer: Used syntaxHighlighter recently, any more complaints? (other than broken mode dependencies) (Which I think will have to wait till v9)	[14:09]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38326 10/branches/8.x/ (4 files in 3 dirs): `cat svn-commit.2.tmp`	[14:11]
lphuberdeau	RobertPlummer: I have one! When using lists, it would be nice that the content of the list items not be green and use the formatting too	[14:11]
chealer	hi RobertPlummer :-)	[14:11]
lphuberdeau	# Some __info__!	[14:11]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Codemirror doesn't support nesting states.	[14:11]
lphuberdeau	really?	[14:12]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: But changing the list color is no big deal.	[14:12]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I do have one, still about the scrollbars, let me see...	[14:12]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Yea, real bummer.	[14:12]
lphuberdeau	could you make it that the green and indent only applies to the # or *, but the rest of the line just be text?	[14:12]
chealer	oh, I'm surprised too hi lphuberdeau	[14:12]
lphuberdeau	really looked like a state machine you had full control over when I looked at the code	[14:12]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: That'd be doable.	[14:12]
chealer	good idea	[14:13]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: I'm sure it is possible, but I've not seen it in practice.	[14:13]
lphuberdeau	to me, only the marker is the list syntax, the rest really is text, and right now it kind of looks like a comment	[14:13]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: good idea lphuberdeau: I will take a look at it and change as soon as I get a chance. lphuberdeau: But as for functionality, syntaxHighlighter = good to go?	[14:14]
chealer	lphuberdeau: you were right about the TRACKERSTAT issue, it was caused by my categlib refactoring. I fixed in r38310. thanks for investigating RobertPlummer: I have regressions in http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/Services again. for a while we got that page to work perfectly the last time, but after you left I found these issues	[14:17]
RobertPlummer	chealer, what is the regression?	[14:20]
chealer	RobertPlummer: the clear problem is the third last CODE plugin call, the one with 2 scrollbars in section PLUGINS: Code that one clearly shouldn't have a horizontal scrollbar	[14:21]
RobertPlummer	chealer: When looking at source, I see "{CODE}{CODE}"	[14:22]
lphuberdeau	chealer: np, I can usually fix the issues caused by refactoring quite fast, because it's usually just a mis-spelled variable, but that code seemed a bit harder than I could spend time on	[14:23]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Looks like a nested code plugin call.	[14:23]
chealer	RobertPlummer: hum, oops. OK, will cleanup that page	[14:23]
RobertPlummer	chealer: THat is probably the problem. (I didn't fix it)	[14:23]
chealer	lphuberdeau: yes, just investigating helped and I was able to spot the issue quickly after identifying it was my commit	[14:25]
lphuberdeau	I figured you'd find it faster as you made it a 100 times	[14:25]
nkoth\|nelson	RobertPlummer: how does wordwrap work in codemirror?	[14:25]
RobertPlummer	nkoth\|nelson: It doesn't nkoth\|nelson: codemirror doesn't support soft breaks. in v2	[14:25]
nkoth\|nelson	ok, thanks. will wait for v3...	[14:26]
RobertPlummer	nkoth\|nelson: At first it was making the page super wide, so I just added overflow: auto, and made it scrollable, which is more like a code editor. nkoth\|nelson: Oh come on, turn it on!	[14:26]
nkoth\|nelson	lol, yes I had that superwide problem a week ago, and I see it is fixed nw	[14:27]
RobertPlummer	nkoth\|nelson: Yea, in most cases, it makes things much easier to edit. nkoth\|nelson: I think the lack of a soft break is actually a nice feature. Although it would be nice to turn it on or off. nkoth\|nelson: I always get mixed up with real breaks/soft breaks when editing in a textarea.	[14:27]
nkoth\|nelson	I can't selectively keep it on for certain pages right? (because it works ok, in fact better, oon some pages and then I hit one page where it is just totally irritating (e.g. due to lack of soft wrap)	[14:28]
RobertPlummer	nkoth\|nelson: That is correct, it is an on/off thing.	[14:29]
nkoth\|nelson	also, say I change the highlighter, is that a global thing?	[14:29]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Did you see the new jQuery event I added in 8?	[14:29]
chealer	RobertPlummer: oh you're right, it's actually a CODE plugin call inside a CODE plugin call. but the inner one is not parsed	[14:29]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Which would be correct behavior.	[14:29]
lphuberdeau	RobertPlummer, nope, what is it?	[14:30]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: It is partially integrated, it uses a timeout and calls is(':visible') on the item untill it is visible. lphuberdeau: I looked tons of places, couldn't find the answer, I needed it to list things correctly with codemirror. lphuberdeau: It is an awesome event, one that should be in jQuery core I feel.	[14:30]
chealer	RobertPlummer: note that non-parsed plugin calls inside a CODE plugin are shown fine in other places (the QUOTE call just above and the FANCYTABLE at the end)	[14:31]
lphuberdeau	so it does stuff when the container becomes visible?	[14:31]
RobertPlummer	$(obj).visible(function() {});	[14:31]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38327 10/branches/8.x/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] carousel plugin: Add a small timeout to help loading failures on first reload (also add .carousel CSS class to help styling)	[14:31]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Right	[14:31]
lphuberdeau	yeah, there are a few places where that can be handy	[14:31]
RobertPlummer	chealer: I'm not sure I understand your problem. lphuberdeau: It isn't fully integrated, ie there is no trigger("visible"), and it stacks calls with no management. lphuberdeau: So it can use some improvement, but it is a very nice feature to have.	[14:32]
lphuberdeau	well, there is a hook that can be improved later, so good enough try to make it better for 9 ;)	[14:34]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: My view as well.	[14:35]
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lphuberdeau	sylvieg, quick question, any known source of WSOD in 6.4 trackers, likely involving image fields?	[14:55]
Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: No search bar at Milkyway theme - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42491	[14:56]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I checked more. The wrap 1 breaks the display. I think the correct behavior would be to display the entire code (no scrollbars)	[14:56]
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chealer	RobertPlummer: there is another case which shouldn't have scrollbars in that page, the one in Autonumbering in headings	[14:57]
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Tiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: AD setup on new installation of TW7 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=17&comments_parentId=42493	[15:06]
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jonnyb	polom all	[15:17]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38328 10/branches/8.x/lib/init/smarty.php: [FIX] smarty 3: Make sure $style_base is set and don't use tikidomain if empty	[15:22]
chealer	hi jonnyb chealer also checking Smarty 3	[15:25]
jonnyb	hi chealer - looks like another blocker unblocked! :)	[15:26]
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chealer	pretty much :-)	[15:26]
ricks99	have a quick profiles question... currently when i try to export a site to YAML, is PREFERENCES the only object type currently available?	[15:31]
jonnyb	hi ricks99 - yes, i'm afraid so been meaning to fix the tracker one (sylvieg started it but it got broken in the tracker revamp)	[15:33]
ricks99	OK. For items that are not automatically exported, is it enough to simply add PREFERNCE = VALUE to the YAML? for example, the blog handler http://profiles.tiki.org/Blog+Handler does not list all the possible fields/prefs for blogs and blog posts. can I simply add them? is the YAML name identical to the Tiki pref? for example, for the blog post object, i want to include an excerpt. Is it as simple as excerpt = FOO ?	[15:34]
jonnyb	ricks99: no, i don't think so - check the handler syntax on profiles.t.o - each object has it's own names for things	[15:40]
ricks99	right. but for blogs, for example, i don't see the "excerpt" field in the handler example	[15:41]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38330 10/trunk/ (19 files in 11 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 38294 to 38328	[15:41]
ricks99	does that mean it is unsupported? are there some things that you cannot pre-load with a profile?	[15:41]
jonnyb	usually you can see the pattern of how things are named for profiles, and usually the code will have a go at it, so worth trying?	[15:43]
ricks99	yes. thats what i thought. tx jonnyb last profiles question from rick...	[15:43]
jonnyb	i'm checking the code... 1 mo	[15:43]
ricks99	anyone know if profiles (or more specficially, the YAML) can be copyrighted? is YAML treated the same as any other codebase	[15:43]
jonnyb	i'd have thought so - i'd guess a CC one would be appropriate (but IANAL ;) )	[15:45]
ricks99	thats what i was thinking. tx again	[15:45]
jonnyb	it's not really functional code, more like a recipe i'd say looking at Tiki_Profile_InstallHandler_Blog it seems excerpt isn't handled (nothing after post_heading)	[15:45]
ricks99	ok. so not all options are possible via YAML. only a specfic sub-set hm.. tx for the info	[15:50]
jonnyb	just the ones that existed when it was written i'd guess - not hard to add missing ones (i'll try if i get some spare time ;) )	[15:51]
ricks99	im sure you've got LOTS of spare time. Tx	[15:51]
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marclaporte	RobertPlummer: https://trunkdev.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=Online%20Publishing%20House the horizontal scroll is nicer indeed https://trunkdev.tiki.org/tiki-editpage.php?page=Online%20Publishing%20House (try going in full page edit mode)	[16:03]
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marclaporte	RobertPlummer: codemirror: is it intentional that ! and !! are the same size?	[16:37]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38331 10/branches/8.x/templates/canonical.tpl: [FIX] wrong if condition to generate canonial url was always evaluating to true	[16:39]
jonnyb	just need to sanity check some behaviour in tracker csv import - either it should replace an item in the same tracker if itemId is in the csv data and it matches an existing item, or it should make a new one right? It seems there's a 3rd option which i don't understand in $trklib->import_csv()	[16:43]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38332 10/branches/7.x/ (. templates/canonical.tpl): [bp/r38331][FIX] wrong if condition to generate canonial url was always evaluating to true tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38333 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 38328 to 38329	[16:44]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38334 10/branches/8.x/templates/tiki-edit_templates.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] Edit templates: restore save button which doesn't save a style-specific template and style-specific templates deletion link (style_local is not a preference, r9574 regression) tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special characters encoding	[16:52]
chealer	thanks rodrigoprimo	[16:52]
RobertPlummer	marclaporte: Probably not. marclaporte: Let me take a look	[16:53]
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RobertPlummer	marclaporte: Yes it is. marclaporte: I can't really change the size of the text in the editor. marclaporte: I'm just showing that it is header-fyd. marclaporte: Would it also be an acceptable fix to only highlight the "!" at the beginning of the block of script? marclaporte: lp proposed a fix for order/unordered lists where only the first char is highlighted. marclaporte: If I change this behaivoir, it will affect all block-level syntaxes, including header.	[16:54]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38335 10/branches/8.x/tiki-edit_templates.php: [FIX] Edit templates: also create subdirectories of style-specific templates directories if they don't exist	[17:03]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38336 10/branches/8.x/lib/prefs/feature.php: mark feature_edit_templates as experimental tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38337 10/trunk/templates/tiki-edit_templates.tpl: [FIX] Smarty notice "Undefined variable: template"	[17:10]
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	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38338 10/branches/8.x/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] tracker import: Set-up data in auto_inc tracker fields for new items and tikiwiki: remove strange "third option" for importing new items but keeping a nonexistent tikiwiki: itemId which would lead to database problems (as it's an auto_increment index).	[17:32]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38339 10/branches/8.x/lib/init/smarty.php: [FIX] MultiTiki: when including Smarty templates, look for them in the domain's default templates directory (r36090 regression)	[17:40]
	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38340 10/trunk/lib/init/smarty.php: [REF] remove unused _smarty_include() (useless from r36090)	[17:48]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: You around?	[17:49]
lphuberdeau	yes	[17:49]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: I need some help in php, not sure how to accomplish. lphuberdeau: For universal reports, I'm creating a definition parsing capability. lphuberdeau: The form object is where you build it, and then send it back to the server to create your repor.t	[17:49]
marclaporte	RobertPlummer: no need to change anything for ! and !!, I was just curious	[17:50]
RobertPlummer	Names are like this rootReportObject_childAttribute_childAttribute. marclaporte: Thanks Marc lphuberdeau: I need a way to turn the naming convention used in forms to turn into relational objects. in this case: Tracker->value = 1 Tracker->Field->23 in javascript result[tracker]=1;result[tracker_field] = 23; I want to go from obj_obj as mear text, to full object relation... obj->obj	[17:50]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38341 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 38329 to 38339	[17:53]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: So I'm sorry so confusing. lphuberdeau: I don't know the terminology of what I'm trying to do, which is part of the problem.	[17:53]
lphuberdeau	classes are usually UpperCase_Underscore_ForDirectory I don't really get what you're asking	[17:55]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Case is not an issue, it might even be upper case. I just need a clean way to go from form to class.	[17:56]
lphuberdeau	you mean HTTP form?	[17:56]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau:From a definition we create a generic json string, the string is used in generation of the form used to create the universal report. lphuberdeau: I need a way to read what was generated. lphuberdeau: What the user sets everything to. lphuberdeau: so I was thinking, because form's use the input's name, I'd just use that.	[17:57]
lphuberdeau	I still don't get what you're trying to do	[17:58]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: So it is a shortcut method of hierarchy from the definition.	[17:58]
lphuberdeau	any code I can look at as a reference?	[17:58]
RobertPlummer	tracker is sort of the root item, and it can have attributes.	[17:58]
lphuberdeau	definition of what?	[17:58]
RobertPlummer	universal reports it is a made up thing. Take a look in trunk at lib/core/UniversalReports/ Builder.js and Builder.php do most of the work. Builder.js takes a definition that you create and generates a form from it.	[17:58]
lphuberdeau	...updating...	[18:00]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: So for instance a base item to report from is Tracker. lphuberdeau: Trackers can be joined, so there can be multi trackers, multi of many values, and some values are depandant on another value. For instance, tracker fields, you wouldn't want to list all tracker fields in you entire db, only those assiciated to a tracker. to you have hierarchy of dependency "tracker_field" as an example. to=>so tracker is the base item, with field as value found after the dependancy was met.	[18:00]
lphuberdeau	looking at the code	[18:03]
RobertPlummer	I just want a simple way or turning tracker_field into an array in php tracker array or object in php. ok	[18:03]
lphuberdeau	I see a bunch of empty functions	[18:03]
RobertPlummer	take a look at the definition for tracker.	[18:03]
lphuberdeau	a sign you're trying to work out too many details at once	[18:04]
RobertPlummer	fn = definition lphuberdeau: I have most of the functionality there already, need to commit it. lphuberdeau: I just want to turn "tracker_field=0" into an array of array("tracker"=>array("field"=0));	[18:04]
lphuberdeau	ah	[18:06]
RobertPlummer	or rather array("tracker_field"=0); to this: array("tracker"=>array("field"=0));	[18:06]
lphuberdeau	there is something for that somewhere	[18:07]
RobertPlummer	lol lol lol lol lphuberdeau: I figured that much.	[18:07]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38342 10/branches/8.x/lib/init/smarty.php: [FIX] smarty: TikiLib doesn't exist in the installer	[18:07]
lphuberdeau	it does the filter~content=stugg => filter['content'] = stuff handling for search	[18:08]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: Where should I look?	[18:08]
lphuberdeau	I don't remember just now, searching TikiFilter_PrepareInput takes the separator as a constructor argument tiki-setup_base.php line 494 for usage, also some unit tests I believe	[18:08]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38343 10/trunk/ (. lib/init/smarty.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/8.x 38339 to 38342	[18:11]
chealer	jonnyb: regarding Carousel again, there is still a small problem with it on http://themes.tiki.org/Themes - there are 2 404 errors about the problematic images we discussed not long ago jonnyb: that page uses $jq('#carousel').infiniteCarousel().show();	[18:14]
jonnyb	yes, needs to use $('#carousel').tiki('carousel') instead (been telling Gary for ages) but now it should use the carousel wiki plugin really	[18:16]
chealer	jonnyb: you read my mind... http://themes.tiki.org/Infinite_carousel advises to use something similar to what the homepage uses.	[18:17]
jonnyb	i added a comment there a while ago (or somewhere)	[18:17]
chealer	jonnyb: oh, didn't realize they were in file galleries cool. jonnyb: when you say you've been telling Gary for ages, does that need to be changed in many places? is it more than changing the homepage and perhaps the documentation page?	[18:18]
jonnyb	possibly others, but those two certainly	[18:19]
chealer	jonnyb: I see your comment, thanks	[18:20]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: it is like a well orchestrated ballet. lphuberdeau: Committing in a min.	[18:20]
lphuberdeau	RobertPlummer: you mean it's boring and old-fashioned?	[18:20]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: no it works great. lphuberdeau: Is it old fashoined? Is there a better way you think?	[18:21]
lphuberdeau	no, it's fine	[18:21]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: I added a method to TikiFilter_PrepareInput that allows you to use it as static.	[18:23]
lphuberdeau	why?	[18:23]
RobertPlummer	Like this: TikiFilter_PrepareInput::delimiter('_')->prepair($array);	[18:24]
chealer	jonnyb: I suppose the plugin wouldn't allow to have captions link to the themes?	[18:24]
jonnyb	should do - not tested	[18:24]
RobertPlummer	lphuberdeau: It seemed like a lot of code just to use such a simple method. lphuberdeau: I can remove it if you like.	[18:24]
lphuberdeau	2 lines?	[18:24]
RobertPlummer	:) 1 line as apposed to 2 is half as much code.	[18:25]
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RobertPlummer	50% less code here, 50% less there, pretty soon, you see impact everywhere. lphuberdeau: My question to you is, "Why not?"	[18:25]
lphuberdeau	just not the kind of component that's used very frequently	[18:26]
chealer	jonnyb: the plugin uses the file's name and its description, but doesn't parse anything. I suppose the description could be parsed	[18:29]
jonnyb	indeed - there are quite a few css improvements needed too (after 8.0 i was thinking)	[18:29]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38344 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [NEW] Added parser ability and some testing to universal reports builder, made use of PrepareInput to do so. tikiwiki: [NEW] Added new static method to TikiFilter_PrepareInput::delimiter() that returns itself for usage.	[18:30]
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chealer	hum, file descriptions are currently treated by nl2br	[18:32]
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chealer	jonnyb: I tried to switch to the plugin anyway but the size is reduced. do you see where it's coming from? the div sets a width and a height it's in progress now, there are two carousels for comparison, the top one uses the wikiplugin	[18:54]
jonnyb	chealer: i thought the plugin wasn't setting the div size - maybe it's in css somewhere?	[18:58]
chealer	jonnyb: Firebug shows it as inline CSS on the wpcarousel div, but it's not in the HTML source so something starting from the tiki handler must set it jonnyb: but the tiki handler is not called with these dimensions in its parameters	[18:59]
jonnyb	no, it's the js that's doing that - if you look at the page source it's not there	[19:00]
chealer	jonnyb: right, that's what I tried to say (it's not in the HTML source)	[19:01]
jonnyb	maybe there's a little one in that gallery - seem to be more thumbnails on the plugin one	[19:01]
chealer	jonnyb: and the tiki handler itself does not touch dimensions...	[19:01]
jonnyb	nope still work in progress i guess...	[19:01]
chealer	jonnyb: ooh... I see, indeed	[19:02]
jonnyb	(since tiki 4! :) )	[19:02]
chealer	the newsletters image is 120x73	[19:03]
jonnyb	maybe it picks the smallest one as the default	[19:03]
chealer	yeah, seems to (sorry, that didn't come to me as a possibility) can we move files between galleries?	[19:04]
jonnyb	yup - worked for me last time i tried	[19:06]
chealer	oh, yes, there's an action for that at the bottom of file listings thanks jonnyb	[19:08]
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chealer	(moved to Others)	[19:08]
Bernard1	Hi all, hi jonnyb i rechecked the bug of the module parameters while within another module we discuss a few days ago. It is still there (http://www.shocksite.com/8x.html/), didn't you say it was corrected in 8 ?	[19:08]
jonnyb	hi Bernard1 - yes, i thought so	[19:09]
chealer	ooh, we lose links, but we get descriptions for free :-) hi Bernard1. did you get Jonny's mail from this morning about your commit 38315?	[19:10]
lphuberdeau	Bernard1, if I can make a recommendation, use a different font	[19:14]
chealer	oh, I just notice that the theme screenshot thumbnails in the carousel are just a crop of the upper left corner of the full size screenshots :-/ and no tooltips when hovering over the thumbnails :-(	[19:17]
sylvieg	hello. Do we have something like I can download a file if I enter one code that is in a tracker or in the params of a plugin? or I can use a token to give me access to a membership?	[19:19]
chealer	...and that's actually an upstream jQuery Infinite Carousel bug; http://www.catchmyfame.com/2009/12/30/huge-updates-to-jquery-infinite-carousel-version-2-released/comment-page-3/#comment-12381	[19:20]
lphuberdeau	sylvieg, token access is essentially a code, you could have a GET form to input it, or joining a group which has access to a file with a code (that might not be in, but it might be on my roadmap for 9)	[19:24]
Bernard1	chealer: i've just recheck… didn't see the email. Hu, again ?	[19:25]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: where are the token values stored?	[19:25]
lphuberdeau	tiki_auth_tokens	[19:26]
chealer	Bernard1: see http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=078D7389-E5BA-41DC-B0E7-32391C56AD7C%40nospaces.net&forum_name=tikiwiki-cvs	[19:26]
sylvieg	I thought Nelson wrote a membership on token .. but can not find out some doc...	[19:27]
chealer	Bernard1: also, do you know how backporting works? fixes for old branches are supposed to be done on newer branches before. so for Tiki 6, you should first commit to 8.x, and then to proposals/6.x. Bernard1: see https://dev.tiki.org/Quality+Team#How_it_works for more information	[19:28]
Bernard1	lphuberdeau: you don't like the font on shocksite.com ? Usually people like it. I'll be glad you tell me more (not readable ? don't like it, etc)	[19:29]
lphuberdeau	Bernard1, reminds me of ComicSans, and that's a terrible thing if you want me to trust anything written on that site	[19:31]
Bernard1	chealer: ok got the message now. I understand about <br />. The template title (<h3>) is dam close to the content and i though it was a bad idea to add a class for the h3. But ok i got the point.	[19:31]
lphuberdeau	Bernard1, when I search for something and end up on a site with a font of that sort, I press back and never come again	[19:32]
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lphuberdeau	pretty sure I'm not alone	[19:33]
Bernard1	lphuberdeau: Arf… i don't see comicsans there but ok if you see it, surely other will do. Thanks for your comment.	[19:33]
fabricius	Hello	[19:33]
Bernard1	;) Hi torsten	[19:33]
fabricius	I want to try the pdf printing from Tiki and would need shell_etoxec activated - has s.th. to do with php.ini - what I would need to do? Imean to activate shell_exec	[19:34]
Bernard1	chealer: i tried previously to commit in trunk "Devs should work on their fixes and enhancements in trunk" but i couldn't. I conclude that commit was closed for trunk	[19:35]
fabricius	would this make root access necessary?	[19:35]
lphuberdeau	fabricus, you need root access on the server	[19:35]
fabricius	ah thx	[19:35]
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fabricius	lphuberdeau: is this a major thing, or would it make sense to ask the providers support to activate?	[19:37]
lphuberdeau	a shared provider will never accept that	[19:37]
Bernard1	jonnyb: you suggest me to avoid suing a module in a module and to explode my header into several modules. I tried but i don't see how. If you can find sometime tomorrow i'll be happy to stole 5mn from your time so you light me the way.	[19:40]
jonnyb	Bernard1: i'll try :)	[19:41]
	bbl	[19:47]
chealer	Bernard1: why couldn't you? Bernard1: By the way, in this case you don't have to commit to trunk, as we are in a semi-automatic merging period from 8.x to trunk, so fixed committed to 8.x will [semi-]automatically move to trunk Bernard1: what is important is to commit on 8.x before proposals/6.x	[19:57]
	I notice that jQuery Infinite Carousel is fairly buggy :-/ jonnyb: thanks, that got rid of the errors. what do you think of http://themes.tiki.org/Themes now?	[20:06]
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RobertPlummer	chealer: Slider is a much better plugin imho that does a very similar task. (that is why we integrated it)	[20:30]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38345 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): improve get_translation_percentage.php tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38346 10/trunk/lib/test/language/ (CollectFilesTest.php CollectFilesVfsStreamTest.php): merge Language_CollectFilesVfsStreamTest and Language_CollectFilesTest	[20:38]
rodrigoprimo1	chealer: I have a guess about the massive changes in the strings order done by get_strings.php when changi\|busy created branches/8.x chealer: but I need someone with PHP running on Windows to test chealer: do you have access to a machine running Windows with PHP? marclaporte are you available to help?	[20:42]
chealer	rodrigoprimo1: mine, but I'm under UNIX rodrigoprimo1: can you explain?	[20:46]
arildb	rodrigoprimo1: I am running Windows. It's almost bedtime for me, but if it's a small thing...please explain	[20:47]
rodrigoprimo1	arildb: it should be quick. please on a updated tiki trunk run "php get_strings.php lang=pt-br" and send lang/pt-br/language.php file to me	[20:48]
arildb	rodrigoprimo1: OK	[20:49]
chealer	RobertPlummer: looks nice. it has thumbnails?	[20:51]
RobertPlummer	chealer: It just handles direct content. chealer: wiki syntax, images, videos, etc.	[20:52]
chealer	RobertPlummer: yes, but can it display thumbnails of contents?	[20:52]
RobertPlummer	chealer: If you feed it that, yes.	[20:53]
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RobertPlummer	chealer: How do you intend on making it display a thumbnail? Is there a plugin for it?	[20:53]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I see there are tabs at the bottom of the plugin in the demo. can these tab "labels" contain thumbnails instead of text? RobertPlummer: currently Carousel does display thumbnails, although they're broken	[20:54]
rodrigoprimo1	chealer: readdir() function is used by get_strings.php to collect the files. this function will return the files according to the order used by the file system. so I'm guessing that a few translators using windows committed language files (including the French one) after updating them with get_strings.php. and then when we run get_strings.php again against the same file on linux we get massive changes in the strings order. chealer: if I'm write, when changi\|busy did http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/tikiwiki/changeset/38037 he was probably using an operating system other than linux	[21:00]
chealer	rodrigoprimo1: I see the idea, but I doubt he was	[21:02]
rodrigoprimo1	chealer: there is a harmless change that might fix this problem chealer: I will replace opendir/readdir with scandir chealer: scandir returns the files in alphabetical order (hopefully using the same criterias independently of the os)	[21:03]
chealer	seems like a good idea	[21:04]
rodrigoprimo1	arildb: thanks for the file	[21:06]
arildb	rodrigoprimo1: Did you find what you were looking for?	[21:06]
rodrigoprimo1	arildb: I will check it now arildb, chealer: I don't know if the problem is with readdir(), but now I'm sure that there is a big different in the strings ordering depending on the operating system	[21:07]
arildb	rodrigoprimo1: glad you got some info out of it	[21:11]
chealer	rodrigoprimo1: well, if we have a bug to fix there, that's good enough, the next release is still just a RC anyway	[21:12]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38347 10/trunk/lib/language/CollectFiles.php: get_strings.php: attempt to make the strings order independent of os	[21:13]
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chealer	rodrigoprimo1: I'll let you know if it happens again	[21:13]
arildb	rodrigoprimo1: would you like me to test the latest commit, too?	[21:13]
chealer	thanks	[21:13]
rodrigoprimo1	arildb: I was about to ask you that	[21:13]
arildb	:-)...will do	[21:13]
rodrigoprimo1	arildb: yes, please chealer: the next time we run get_strings.php after 38347 we expect to have huge changes in the order of the strings in language.php files chealer: but hopefully this won't be a problem in the future	[21:13]
chealer	rodrigoprimo1: OK, true. let's just make sure we do that before RC 1 so we can see if it's stable at the time of RC 1	[21:15]
rodrigoprimo1	chealer: the old get_strings.php also used readdir() so this might explain why sometimes we had the impression that it was changing way too much	[21:16]
chealer	yay :-)	[21:16]
rodrigoprimo1	chealer: afaik, the problem was only related with the strings ordering. not with the translations, so it is not a real problem for the release. but of course it is a good idea to keep an eye open to this.	[21:18]
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rodrigoprimo1	bbl	[21:18]
shaun_	Hey guys, So I took your advice, upgraded to 7.2. When I log in using a domain user. I still get a blank white screen. I only upgraded the database. I did not erase it and start over.	[21:19]
chealer	rodrigoprimo1: yes, it's just that such a big change to files was too scary to ship untested as we weren't sure what was happening (plus, it shouldn't happen anyway)	[21:20]
shaun_	and there are no errors being displayed still when I view the wiki logs.	[21:20]
arildb	rodrigoprimo1: new language.php file sent	[21:22]
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rodrigoprimo1	chealer: fyi, the files generated by get_strings.php on windows and linux after 38347 are identical chealer: I will update all language files both on trunk and 8.x	[21:34]
chealer	rodrigoprimo1: good news, thank you ;-)	[21:35]
rodrigoprimo1	chealer: welcome chealer: anyway, since the get_strings.php is still new, we should still be alert for anything unusual in the language files	[21:35]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38348 10/branches/8.x/ (. lib/language/CollectFiles.php): [bp/r38347]get_strings.php: attempt to make the strings order independent of os (after informing chealer)	[21:44]
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shaun_	I'm frustrated. I really want to give tikiwiki a try. But i have been battleing it for 3 weeks now. and im no closer to getting this working that i was 3 weeks ago. Im willing to give it one last try. does anyone have a proven method for getting tikiwiki up and running on a windows machine? and configured to work with ldap? My ldap users just get a blank screen, and there are no errors reported anywhere that will give me a clue to troubleshoot.	[21:59]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_: the last time I got a tiki running on a windows machine was about 6 months ago usung tiki 6 with LDAP	[22:03]
shaun_	now, after upgrading to 7.2. i cant get to the ldab tab on the fresh installation to configure ldap. sigh	[22:03]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_: is this server on the Internet, or do you perhaps have a test machine reachable by remote desktop I can play with?	[22:04]
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shaun_	it is not on the internet. i would love to try and work out a remote desktop session.	[22:06]
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nkoth\|nelson	shaun_: do you have "Write LDAP debug Information in Tiki Logs" checked? and right after the user logs in what is the last message you see in tiki-syslog.php ?	[22:09]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r38350 10/branches/8.x/lang/ (49 files in 49 dirs): update language files after change in get_strings.php ordering algorithm	[22:18]
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shaun_	nkoth\|nelson ldab error reporting is checked. im back using the tii 6.4 LTS	[22:29]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_, ok what is the last log entry in tiki-syslog.php when a user tries to login?	[22:30]
shaun_	Connect Host: ldap://172.22.1.10:389. Binddn: shaun at... line 220 ....ldap.php	[22:35]
	is there another section i should check that might be more helpfull?	[22:41]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_ we need to find out how to see the full message, do you have time right now to poke at the code?	[22:41]
shaun_	there is a tool tip that pops up. and it will display the whole message.	[22:42]
nkoth\|nelson	what is it?	[22:43]
shaun_	i have about 30mins to dabble. sure... lets do it. i just left out the path to the php.	[22:43]
nkoth\|nelson	so it's line 220 of lib/auth/ldap.php ? Let me get there first	[22:44]
shaun_	actually.... yes. that is the correct path. i dont know if this is another factor. but i did use easy php.	[22:44]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_: just so I can make sure the error reporting is working, can you try changing your ldap bind settings in tiki slightly so that it should not work? and see what is logged?	[22:47]
shaun_	yes. lets see if i can break it;) so i changd the ip address of the ldap server. it still allowed me to log in as the network user i added. and still displayed a blank screen. now i will try to log in as a user i have never attempted before.	[22:49]
nkoth\|nelson	what does the tiki-syslog.php say this time?	[22:52]
shaun_	time is 15.49. its 3:49pm right now. so thats correct. im sorry, i misunderstood. it gave the same exact message as before. wth no errors anything.	[22:53]
nkoth\|nelson	same IP?	[22:54]
shaun_	and same blank page. it looks like i can type anything in there and get it. nope. different ip.	[22:54]
nkoth\|nelson	sure, that message is sent before the attempt, not after	[22:54]
shaun_	you suggested i change the ldap settings so they would break. well i figured changing the ip would break it;)	[22:55]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_: now can you try and check php.ini to see if the setting for display_errors?	[22:55]
shaun_	the php.ini?	[22:57]
nkoth\|nelson	yes	[22:57]
shaun_	im not familiar with your referance.	[22:58]
nkoth\|nelson	look in Windows explorer in C:php is there a file php.ini there?	[22:58]
shaun_	i do not have a "php.ini" file i do have c:easyphpphpphp.ini-production and php.ini-development	[23:02]
nkoth\|nelson	search for php.ini in your windows search	[23:02]
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nkoth\|nelson	Ifrom easyphp's website, I think it is in c:windows	[23:03]
shaun_	dont have it. wait. sorry. jumped the gun. found it.	[23:04]
nkoth\|nelson	edit it with notepad/wordpad	[23:06]
shaun_	c:easyphpphp.ini	[23:06]
nkoth\|nelson	search for "display_errors"	[23:06]
shaun_	ok. opened. i have two of them.	[23:06]
nkoth\|nelson	two of what?	[23:07]
shaun_	c:easyphpapacheephp.ini and c:easyphpconf_filesphp.ini	[23:08]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_ : I am not sure which one applies, google is no help. anyway, try both	[23:09]
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fabricius	ola	[23:09]
lphuberdeau	tiki-phpinfo.php should indicate where the php.ini file is taken	[23:10]
nkoth\|nelson	shaun_: yes, if you point your browser to tiki-phpinfo.php, it should tell you where it is taken	[23:11]
shaun_	the one in conf_files is the initialize file. and the one in apachee is created by easyphp. apachee is the one.	[23:11]
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shaun_	so, what am i looking for?	[23:13]
nkoth\|nelson	"display_errors"	[23:13]
shaun_	= on	[23:14]
nkoth\|nelson	search for duplicates of it in the same file, make sure they are not commented	[23:15]
shaun_	one is commented in the overview of what they all mean and defines default settings. and the only other one is listed after that "display_errors = on" arround line 540.	[23:16]
nkoth\|nelson	well, check for "error_reporting" as well	[23:17]
shaun_	error_reporting = E_ALL \| ~E_STRICT	[23:18]
nkoth\|nelson	ok, that is fine, now I wonder why there are no errirs	[23:19]
shaun_	it is curious. im out of time. i will contact you toamrrow. Thanks.	[23:19]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38351 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: TrackerLib: expand comment on filter_categ_items()	[23:43]

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