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Merbster	was CRM cancelled in Tiki?	[07:51]
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marclaporte	no crm.tiki.org Most of the features are there, but a profile needs to be made CRM is a combination of user trackers and issue tracking	[08:06]
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Merbster	thanks marclaporte I will ahve a look at it marclaporte, I don't think I have access to any of the features you are referring to.	[08:30]
marclaporte	Merbster: see PM	[08:33]
Merbster	marclaporte, brilliant :)	[08:33]
SJ-Jay	marclaporte, your up early! or should i say late? ;)	[08:33]
marclaporte	up early	[08:34]
Merbster	marclaporte, I can find the trackers, but was any wikipage created that applies a template to those?	[08:34]
marclaporte	I just got back from Germany, so still on their time zone Merbster: profile is not made yet We need to 1- manually finish crm.tiki.org to be a basic CRM 2- Make a basic profile	[08:34]
Merbster	marclaporte, I'd just like to see what you have done so far :)	[08:36]
marclaporte	I started this a while back, but other priorities have taken over Maybe it'll be time to redo in Tiki8...	[08:36]
Merbster	marclaporte, btw. I have sometimes been asked to ask a question in regard to advanced tiki use on the dev mailing list, but when you look at the description for that mailing list on tiki.org it explicitly states it should not be used for support cases. and I should go to the forums	[08:37]
marclaporte	The idea was to focus on membership management : http://profiles.tiki.org/Customer_Relationship_Management hmmmm, where does it say that?	[08:37]
Merbster	marclaporte, 2 secs marclaporte, http://tiki.org/Mailing+lists <- here Tikiwiki developers (the main decision/communication channel. Please do not use this forum for support — use the <- quoted	[08:41]
marclaporte	https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel This list is for Tiki developers, bugs, SVN problems, and general discussion about the application code	[08:42]
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marclaporte	hmmm, I see the inconsistency Ideally, someone would setup: http://doc.tiki.org/Forum+and+Mailing+List+Synchronization The reality is that we have way more eyballs on the dev mailing list than in Tiki forums And it's sadly more successful to report a bug on the mailing list than in the bug tracker (because no one is activately monitoring and triaging the reported bugs) So it's a question about how things are vs how they should be I don't know the answer	[08:45]
Merbster	lol one of the woes of exisiting in reality.	[08:51]
marclaporte	Even http://tiki.org/tiki-forums.php is a mess because people don't know where to port	[08:52]
Merbster	marclaporte, I'll have a detailed description ready soon about what I am trying to dow ith the CRM stuff	[08:52]
marclaporte	port->post marclaporte thinks a tag-based support forum could be an avenue to explore. One buckets for all posts, and you filter by tags..	[08:52]
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chibaguy	polom	[08:59]
Merbster	marclaporte, I have often found myself confused as to where I should seek out information marclaporte, tbh the easiest way to find something tiki related is to go google and write "tiki <topic>" :P	[09:01]
chibaguy	Merbster: I wonder if that may be true for many large web sites.	[09:03]
Merbster	chibaguy, usually the local search on the large website will give better results because there's no noize from the rest of the internet.	[09:03]
chibaguy	well, I use "site:doc.tiki.org <topic>"	[09:04]
Merbster	haha :P	[09:04]
chibaguy	that limits the scope.	[09:04]
Merbster	chibaguy, what if you need something from dev ? I often find myself in a situation where the information on dev is just as important as doc either because there's some suppleant information or sometimes notes about features give more documentation for their use than the actual doc page.	[09:04]
chibaguy	well, then I'd use site:dev.tiki.org or maybe site:tiki.org to get results from both\|all I don't know that google is better than the search at the site, but if i'm not already at the site, it just saves loading the site first and then doing the search. (saving a site loading by typing the search into the browser search field)	[09:06]
marclaporte	Merbster: http://tiki.org/Where	[09:12]
chibaguy	bbl	[09:16]
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Merbster	mailing list noob question: is it possible to send an email to a mailing list, before subscribing to it?	[09:37]
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chibaguy	Merbster: No, I don't think so.	[09:50]
Merbster	chibaguy, I got a message that my mail is waiting for a moderator so apparantly it's possible. But I signed up just after I sent the first message :P	[09:51]
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chibaguy	Oh, I see. I wasn't aware that it was possible. Probably a configuration option for the mailing list.	[09:58]
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marclaporte	Merbster: I can approve it	[10:14]
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Merbster	thanks marclaporte :)	[10:39]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38463 10/trunk/tiki-batch_upload_files.php: [FIX] filegals batch upload: Set max_execution_time to 0 when processing batch	[10:52]
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jonnyb	polom!	[10:55]
Jyhem_laptop	Polom!	[11:02]
jonnyb	hi Jyhem_laptop - did that scrollbars thing work for you eventually?	[11:02]
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Jyhem_laptop	Ahhh, I knew I had to test again today. I saw you completed yesterday's fix tonight Did not work yesterday after your first fix, but you knew that.	[11:09]
Merbster	Hi jonnyb you where talking about relations on the mailing list :)	[11:10]
jonnyb	hi Merbster - yes, it's the way forward	[11:10]
Merbster	jonnyb, I can't figure out how I'm expected to use it. how do I create the relations? Do I include the lib in a php file and start writing code or is there a UI?	[11:11]
jonnyb	yes, there's a ui - you probably need to enable the relations field type in admin/trackers hmm, which version tiki are you using? (do hope you're helping to test 8.x! ;) )	[11:12]
Merbster	jonnyb, it's a tiki 8 svn version not the newest though - I still need to figure out how to merge in the new development stuff from you guys without tearing down what I put up myself. jonnyb, I have enabled the field and it shows up in tracker setup but I cannot define the actual relation that the data is filtered by under trackers.	[11:14]
jonnyb	you just make one up basically	[11:15]
Merbster	jonnyb, http://dev.tiki.org/Object+Attributes+and+Relations <- here it says "Relations are managed with..." lib/attributes/attributelib.php <- and this is the only reference	[11:15]
jonnyb	they're prewtty simple really once you dig into them - a relationship is a pair of attributes yes, we need more docs on this :)	[11:16]
chibaguy	jonnyb: can you give a simple example of how relation is used in a tracker?	[11:20]
jonnyb	ok, here's a simple example i have locally for testing... (all within trackerId 1, so it's a field that relates to other items in the same tracker, but same principle) :D	[11:20]
chibaguy	so how would it be used? or can you describe a use case?	[11:22]
jonnyb	Relation field option: Relation="local.content.similar" Filter="tracker_id=1"	[11:22]
chibaguy	(sorry for basic questions)	[11:22]
jonnyb	polom chibaguy Merbster's example on the dev list is pretty good - we should try and make a demo of it (on dev.t.o or demo)	[11:22]
chibaguy	:-)	[11:23]
marclaporte	A profile!	[11:23]
jonnyb	hi marclaporte - if only... (i'm going to run out of time very shortly)	[11:24]
marclaporte	ok, maybe demo at crm.tiki.org so it doesn't get wiped like demo does	[11:24]
jonnyb	example of companies and people, you want many to many (i work for more than one company, all those companies employ more than one person) that's new one on me - crm.tiki.org nope, it's on 6.x sorry	[11:25]
marclaporte	uhhhh, right oh well... demo.tiki.org/crm/ could be created with 8.x	[11:26]
jonnyb	jonnyb would rather be fixing the tracker export as profile code :P	[11:27]
marclaporte	yes!!!	[11:27]
chibaguy	ok, jonnyb, i see (about the many to many)	[11:28]
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jonnyb	if someone wants to find a server and set up an organisations tracker and a people trackers i'll join them together (would be something like Relation: crm.organisation.employee or something)	[11:31]
Merbster	what I don't get it how does the relation know what tracker fields I want? I mean I want to join on	[11:35]
jonnyb	do you mean fields or items? the "join" on item ids (itemId's for trackeritems) but you can join anything to anything - check out how the Files field type joins trackeritems to files	[11:37]
Merbster	jonnyb, I don't know if relations support both and in that case hwo I define them.	[11:37]
jonnyb	both what?	[11:38]
Merbster	both itemIds and fields or just one of them, sorry for being incoherent I just had a 10 min. meeting injected	[11:39]
jonnyb	nice an item has an itemId and some fields, which ones you show up is down to the template you use (like in a pretty tracker)	[11:39]
Merbster	jonnyb, what is "relation qualifier" ?	[11:39]
jonnyb	something like crm.organisation.employee or tiki.file.attach	[11:40]
Merbster	"Filter" the description says "URL-Encoded list of filters to be applied on object selection" and I just wonder - how do I know what filters are available jonnyb, but how do I know what qualifier to use?	[11:40]
jonnyb	you make up a qualifier to suit what you want - can be anything i'm using local.content.similar to play with it	[11:41]
Merbster	So the UI for configuring the relation will only popup when I type in a qualifier?	[11:42]
jonnyb	the filter is something like "tracker_id=1"	[11:42]
Jyhem_laptop	jonnyb: YES ! The wysiwyg translation thing on laptops issue is solved ! You are a hero!	[11:42]
jonnyb	thx Jyhem_laptop - second time lucky :)	[11:42]
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jonnyb	Merbster: not sure what you mean - set one up like that and try editing an item (Relation field option: Relation="local.content.similar" Filter="tracker_id=1") where tracker_id=1 exists	[11:43]
Merbster	jonnyb, that's clever	[11:50]
jonnyb	LP did it - bound to be clever! ;)	[11:50]
Merbster	So, how do I template this? when I want to show the results	[11:51]
jonnyb	sorry i'm so bad at explaining it - it's sort of easier to see what it does use the {list} plugin	[11:51]
Merbster	Ok.	[11:51]
jonnyb	http://doc.tiki.org/pluginList	[11:51]
Merbster	Darn it I was hoping to avoid that one, it's highly complex and not documented that well yet (which makes sense when it is so new)	[11:51]
RobertPlummer	polom all	[11:52]
Merbster	hey RobertPlummer	[11:52]
RobertPlummer	hey Merbster jonnyb: Thanks for being understanding with Codemirror, I know if has to be frustrating for you with it never working right. jonnyb: I think part of the issue is that the version we are on has still a few bugs, there have been a few maintenance releases since we've updated to 2.	[11:52]
jonnyb	hi RobertPlummer - no worries, i know it needs testing just there's only a certain level of dogfood anyone can take (before drowning in it!) i've switched it off again on my localhost i'm afraid	[11:53]
Merbster	if I have a Tiki 8 SVN version with some of my very specific Søren Jensen modifications and I'd like to upgrade all the files I did not touch to the newest from Tiki 8 SVN is that possible?	[11:54]
RobertPlummer	svn up yea it is fine.	[11:55]
Merbster	RobertPlummer, I will go with the ballsy way and just try it with fingers crossed.	[11:56]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: I understand, I updated my website to 8 svn and I had to do the same.	[11:56]
jonnyb	Merbster: afterwards you can do svn status to check everything's ok	[11:56]
Merbster	It's actually quite horrifying I am close to ending my second IT education and none of them have touched on version control or had any emphasis on it.	[11:57]
jonnyb	in fact do svn status before so you know which files have been modified (and maybe take a copy of them)	[11:57]
Merbster	I will back it all up	[11:57]
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RobertPlummer	Merbster: svn does a really good job of testing for modifications. Although it is always a good idea to backup, just svn-uping will not kill your project.	[11:59]
Merbster	on a side not, if any of you guys hit denmark any time, let me know I think I owe a beer. :)	[12:00]
jonnyb	well, you should watch out for conflicts	[12:00]
RobertPlummer	If there was an update from the same file you are working on, the file either merges those changes is set to conflict. In which case you choose what gets udpated. jonnyb: beat me to it.	[12:00]
jonnyb	cooo, Danish beer's expensive! :)	[12:00]
Merbster	My favourite beer is probably Newcastle brown ale... or a Guinness...	[12:01]
jonnyb	I should be in Norway sometime early next year, so might pop in on the way (although the direct flights are so cheap now it's a bit unlikely) jonnyb reminds himself he has to get on and not day dream about beer so early in the day	[12:01]
Merbster	jonnyb, another thing I have been wondering, how does the relation qualifier change hte behaviour of the relation?	[12:06]
jonnyb	adding .invert on the end inverts it, otherwise it's just a unique string (afaik)	[12:07]
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Merbster	I might be asking as tupid question here, but why name them if they do not differ ?	[12:08]
jonnyb	so we humans can tell that they represent - to the processor they're just links between lumps of binary but to us they're employment or attachment or location info	[12:09]
Merbster	So the naming is not because you can programmatically create your own relation type that "joins" on special criteria so complex they _have_ to be specified in PHP? I am thinking if you wanted to relate to data that is not stored in wiki, if it was possible to add a custom relation type with it's own logic you could mix webservices into it or maybe connect to another DBMS. jonnyb, the template for the relation is defined through pluginList - and I can only use this, because trackerList is not updated to handle the relation field; correct?	[12:11]
jonnyb	think so, i'm barely able to walk with these things so far, you're talking about sprinting! i'd recommend getting the basics functioning within tiki then tihnk about extending	[12:15]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: If I may be so bold... It sounds like you need an alternate type of feature than Trackers.	[12:17]
Merbster	RobertPlummer, with Relation filed type and many to many relations I think I can manage.	[12:17]
RobertPlummer	Merbster: There are plans to integrate Doctrine, perhaps that would be more to your liking.	[12:17]
Merbster	I don't know what it is :) I am googling though ah. Hibernate for PHP. RobertPlummer, I put up a description of what I am trying to accomplish on the dev mailing list. one a side note; I wanted to update the docs about this, but I cannot seem to get a the structure that all the field types are listed with.	[12:17]
Jyhem_laptop	Hi folks, I seem to have found an issue with the tracker email fields in Tiki8 If you go to http://demo.tiki.org/8x/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=2&itemId=3&show=view&cookietab=2 there is just no way of entering an email worse: if the email field is "required", then any attempt to edit fails with the error message that email should be entered	[12:19]
Merbster	I don't have perms to change http://doc.tiki.org/Tracker+Field+Type&structure=Documentation+TOC and add the relations field	[12:22]
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Merbster	marclaporte, is it something you can fix with your allmighty magic powers? :)	[12:35]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38464 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] trackers: Add a deep gallery option to the Files field so you can use files from nested galleries	[12:35]
jonnyb	checking Jyhem_laptop you mean it doesn't get saved... i see	[12:37]
Jyhem_laptop	Hmm, I did not look in the database to check it is not saved, but.... it looks like it is not saved for all practical purposes	[12:39]
jonnyb	jonnyb prefers participant to employee, just couldn't think of the word will recreate locally...	[12:39]
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oliva	hi there ... how can I debug ldap authentication?	[12:47]
Merbster	oliva, login to tiki with admin and activate the acitonlog actionlog*	[12:48]
oliva	hi Merbster thanks for your answet answer	[12:48]
Merbster	oliva, and LDAP logging. oliva, then go to /tiki-syslog.php oliva, also. there's two tabs with LDAP configuration in Tiki 7	[12:48]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38465 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/Simple.php: [FIX] trackers: Email and IP fields variable typo (thanks Jyhem)	[12:49]
jonnyb	Jyhem_laptop: this should fix the email ^^	[12:49]
oliva	I'm using LTS 6 I get Invalid Credential Error: Bind failed: Invalid credentials:...	[12:49]
Merbster	oliva, Do you have non-standard chars in your OU ? like æ,ø,å	[12:49]
oliva	don't think so not at my entry at least	[12:50]
Merbster	Tiki LTS would be 6.4 or something?	[12:50]
oliva	yes 6.4	[12:50]
Merbster	the first fix I did was to copy in /lib/auth/ldap.php from tiki 6.1 there's only one change and it fixed it for me. But your problem might be simple misconfiguration 2 secs I will find the bug report I made about it	[12:51]
oliva	I'm sure of it	[12:51]
Merbster	oliva, http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=3984 <- here I don't remember the UI of tiki 6.4 for LDAP anymore. But I think there's only one LDAP related tab isn't there?	[12:52]
oliva	Merbster: correct	[12:53]
Merbster	something entirely different - I have jsut done ans svn up - do I need to re-install tiki to make sure new DB changes are made?	[12:53]
oliva	Merbster: I'm sure I have misconfigured something	[12:53]
Merbster	oliva, I am not htat sharp with AD/LDAP config. My collegue knew the settings and filled them in, I "fixed" the code for errors.	[12:54]
oliva	Merbster: I'd like to know what query does tw do in order to debug	[12:55]
Merbster	oliva, you can search for LDAP in the admin panel and you should find something in regard to ldap logging if you have a localized Tiki version your translation kight interfere with what you need to search for, allthough I think LDAP is pretty international :) oliva, you can find the log here /tiki-syslog.php it lists all ldap requests and shows what params are sent forth and back	[12:55]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38466 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ (File.php Image.php Rating.php): [FIX] trackers: Some more undefined variables	[12:57]
oliva	yes it just says nvalid Icredentials:...	[12:57]
Merbster	oliva, try hovering your mouse over the message the detailed error is in there	[12:57]
oliva	just says the line of the error 231	[12:58]
Merbster	You don't get a LDAP request with params in it?	[12:58]
oliva	no	[12:58]
Merbster	oliva, Tiki 6.4 expects your LDAP query and info to be less than 200 chars	[12:58]
oliva	sorry the previuos showd showed	[12:59]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38467 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations + some corrections	[12:59]
Merbster	oliva, I think that's about the best I can do for you, unless you install XDebug on your webserver and singlestep the code while doing a login (I have spent far too much time doing that, than I care to remember)	[13:00]
oliva	this information is usefull let me investigate :) thank you for your support	[13:01]
Merbster	oliva, no problem. :)	[13:02]
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Merbster	how do I do an svn status with tortoise?	[13:07]
jonnyb	might be called info or something?	[13:08]
Merbster	and a checkout and an up is different?	[13:08]
jonnyb	"up" (update) is what you do to something you're checked out (known as a working copy)	[13:09]
omstefanov	Merbster: in tortoise status is always shown by the color of the icons.	[13:09]
Merbster	Yes. So if I want to keep my changes I should do up not checkout :) omstefanov, ah. like in netbeans.	[13:09]
omstefanov	Merbster: All green buttons with checkmark show uptodate items	[13:09]
jonnyb	yes (checkout is how it all got there in the first place)	[13:09]
Merbster	lol yes :P	[13:10]
jonnyb	polom omstefanov	[13:10]
omstefanov	Merbster: red with exclamation mark need updating	[13:10]
Merbster	But since I could not updaet a whole dir I thought checkout was the correct thing to "merge" - since only checkout was apparent but I was wrong	[13:10]
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omstefanov	Merbster: to update right click and choose option "SVN update" from dropdown list	[13:10]
Merbster	I am happy that long nights of crying has taugth me to do backups	[13:10]
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Merbster	omstefanov, that option is not apparant on Network mounted drives.	[13:11]
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Merbster	that's whY I missed it	[13:11]
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nkoth\|nelson	polom	[13:12]
omstefanov	Merbster: you (or at least I, on a local drive) also have option to "restore previous versions". Do you see that?	[13:12]
jonnyb	hi nkoth\|nelson	[13:12]
Merbster	omstefanov, nope but I haven't updated Toirtoise in a couple of months	[13:12]
nkoth\|nelson	hi jonnyb: how are you? is now a good time to talk abt the item link/items list?	[13:13]
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jonnyb	i guess yes (oh yes, i meant to reply to that mail) 5 mins - door	[13:14]
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omstefanov	Merbster: I haven't updated Tortoise in probably a year. My version is 1.6.16 (64bit).Am running on a Windows 7 Ultimate PC, What about you.	[13:14]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38468 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r38467][TRA] more French translations	[13:16]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: ok 5 min	[13:16]
Jyhem_laptop	jonnyb: YES! I confirm you fixed it! (once again, jonnyb saves the day)	[13:16]
Merbster	omstefanov, Win7 Pro and Tortoise is 1.6.16 - but again my right-click conctext is a network mounted drive. I am developing intranet so I have hooked up a share directly to wwwroot of the dev server.	[13:16]
omstefanov	jonnyb: THANKS a LOT for the fix in 8.x to view email addresses.	[13:17]
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Merbster	omstefanov, thanks for your help though :)	[13:20]
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oliva	I still have invalid credential damn ldap	[13:29]
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oliva	is invalid credential referred to the ldap authentication or to the user?	[13:33]
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jonnyb	polom rodrigoprimo	[13:33]
nkoth\|nelson_	oliva, what kind of bind are you using?	[13:33]
rodrigoprimo	hi jonnyb	[13:33]
jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson_: have replied in more detail on the dev list, making tea - brb	[13:34]
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jonnyb	re	[13:41]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: hi	[13:42]
jonnyb	hi nkoth\|nelson_	[13:43]
nkoth\|nelson_	I think we still need the lines you removed in r38419	[13:43]
jonnyb	so, are we in 8.x or trunk (firstly) - trunk yes?	[13:43]
nkoth\|nelson_	8.x	[13:43]
jonnyb	right... it's got to be the logic of whether to use value or id is wrong somewhere	[13:44]
nkoth\|nelson_	first of all, I think we are in agreement that the if in line 146 is wrong right?	[13:44]
jonnyb	the var assignment as part of the condition doesn't help (me)	[13:45]
Jyhem_laptop	I would like to upgrade demo.to/8x Unless anyone hollers, this will happen in 20 secs 15	[13:46]
jonnyb	jonnyb is gald Jyhem_laptop can do this now	[13:46]
Jyhem_laptop	:)	[13:46]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: are you referring to line 145 or 146?	[13:47]
jonnyb	145 - i just moved $field = $tracker->getField($remoteField) to the line above bad practice to test and assign in the same statement imho	[13:48]
Merbster	Merbster agrees with jonnyb	[13:48]
jonnyb	:)	[13:49]
Merbster	I hate PHP for it	[13:49]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: ok sure, in fact that was a cause of a bug previously ddue to bad bracketing is this committed?	[13:49]
jonnyb	no, just playing locally so far will pastebin when there's something to commit so, what's your case where it's not picking up technique=id where it should?	[13:50]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: it is picking up technique=id fine	[13:51]
jonnyb	but the code i took out (about $localFieldDef) was in the value section	[13:52]
nkoth\|nelson_	exactly, we still need that part when the case is value because there is a case where the field pointed to by the "here field" option is an items list sorry I mean item link = type 'r'	[13:53]
jonnyb	but that (removed code) calls get_item_value, which uses $itemId... no, ok... let me step through all this with a couple of different setups i have to admit that i get a sort of stack overflow in my head when dealing with these field types!	[13:54]
nkoth\|nelson_	let's go through it line by line (I have same stack overflow in m head) $localValue is what you would like to match, right? so in line 156, it starts off by using the value of the local field, straightforward	[13:58]
jonnyb	yes	[13:59]
nkoth\|nelson_	then in line 159, just in case line 156 did not work, it tries t using get_item_value which is more robust right?	[13:59]
jonnyb	yup, tries twice in case it's not loaded	[14:00]
nkoth\|nelson_	right. so far so good, then the line 163 you removed is a bit strange to understand	[14:00]
jonnyb	i'm sure it was stopping my case from working... and may have got my itemId's mixed up	[14:01]
nkoth\|nelson_	What was your case?	[14:01]
jonnyb	so i've locally revertyed 38419	[14:01]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: I have successfully logged but I can't use my email ... I must use my name + family name ... is there a way to change this^?	[14:01]
nkoth\|nelson_	oliva: not sure. there are ldap settings you might be able to change but it is system dependant	[14:03]
jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson_: 1 mo - double checking...	[14:03]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: the problem is that it looks for the dn ... and the dn does not contain the email address, that is a field in the entry	[14:04]
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jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson_: let me recreate all this locally so i can meddle...	[14:07]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: would this be a good time for me to explain the purpose of the line 163?	[14:07]
oliva	any other has installed ldap authentication with tw?	[14:07]
nkoth\|nelson_	(I think I have found the words)	[14:07]
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jonnyb	ok, go for it!	[14:07]
nkoth\|nelson_	oliva: i do. but not frequently.	[14:07]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: do you use email or names to log in?	[14:08]
nkoth\|nelson_	oliva: 1 se	[14:08]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: thanks :)	[14:08]
nkoth\|nelson_	oliva: email (active directory)	[14:08]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: no openldap installation?	[14:08]
nkoth\|nelson_	previously yes, I remember email also	[14:09]
oliva	do you still have access to that ldap server?	[14:09]
nkoth\|nelson_	no	[14:09]
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nkoth\|nelson_	you can change your search criteria	[14:09]
oliva	thanks anyway	[14:09]
jonnyb	nkoth\|nelson_: shall we try voip? :P	[14:09]
nkoth\|nelson_	base dn is the search criteria	[14:09]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: the problem is that it looks for the dn	[14:09]
nkoth\|nelson_	jonnyb: ok	[14:10]
oliva	I can play around with setting but ... if my dn does not contain my email address I cannot use it in the authenticatino is this correct?	[14:10]
nkoth\|nelson_	oliva: under the ldap settings you can set the field you want let me check the label'	[14:11]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: I'm using tw 6.4 nkoth\|nelson_: maybe search scope?	[14:11]
nkoth\|nelson_	It's User attribute default is uid	[14:11]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: the problem is that it searches the dn not the target of the search I can put anything I want in the search but it search among the dn and my dn is "cn=Name Surname,ou=unit,ou=users,o=org,c=it" then inside there is mail=user@org.it sorry for my bad explaination :)	[14:13]
nkoth\|nelson_	try putting mail in User attribute	[14:16]
oliva	it will search dn for "mail=user@org.it,ou=unit,ou=users,o=org,c=it" with no success is it clear?	[14:16]
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nkoth\|nelson_	oliva: sorry I am talking to jonnyb too at the smame time	[14:20]
oliva	nkoth\|nelson_: what's the problem :) nkoth\|nelson_: I really thank you for your help :)	[14:20]
	ok ... I have fixed it I needed anonymous bind	[14:27]
	thanks bye	[14:40]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38469 10/branches/8.x/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Revert r38418: [FIX] trackers: ItemLink always uses itemId again tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38470 10/branches/8.x/lib/core/Tracker/Field/ItemsList.php: Revert r38419: [FIX] trackers: ItemsList itemId/value change	[14:57]
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omstefanov_	jonnyb: You just made changes to 8.x and jyhem upgraded demo.t.o However, even after clearing all caches the "SVN up info" still shows Rev. 38453 from Sun. 23 Oct 15:55.	[15:27]
jonnyb	hi omstefanov_ & Jyhem_laptop - annoyingly you still need to use "sh doc/devtools/svnup.sh" for that to show up if you do svn info in the terminal it should show the right revision	[15:29]
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RobertPlummer	jonnyb, chealer: I'm getting ready to start on a new project in tiki that has to do with sharing of information between sites, I'm wondering what you think could possibly be any drawbacks as far as security etc is concerned.	[15:49]
jonnyb	hi RobertPlummer - i'm not the best person to ask - i suggest emailing security@tiki.org	[15:50]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: Thanks buddy.	[15:51]
Jyhem_laptop	Jyhem_laptop wonders if sh doc/devtools/svnup.sh is really supposed to take ages	[15:57]
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Jyhem_laptop	Ahhh, sh doc/devtools/svnup.sh done	[15:58]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38472 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] trackers: Add "clear" function to admin trackers to remove all the items at once (for admins only)	[16:02]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: what has happened to tracker field type "items list" in 8.x ???	[16:06]
jonnyb	it got changed so the value stored in the tracker is always the itemId of the linked item, not it's value i got a bit lost...	[16:07]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: in demo.t.o we created 2 trackers, participant (to which you added yourself) and org. The idea is that the "item link" which is the field type which you and nelson changed to be itemId, is the "link", but then we want to be able to show OTHER FIELDS from the linked tracker. These were, in all prev. tiki versions the field-type "items list".	[16:08]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38473 10/trunk/templates/tracker/import_items.tpl: [FIX] trackers: Add tracker action buttons to import confirmation page so you can go see what you imported	[16:09]
jonnyb	that's still there - called ItemsList now	[16:10]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: Where? If I try to add a field to table 2 in demo.t.o, and open the drop-down list of field types, I can't see ItemsList anywhere???	[16:11]
jonnyb	maybe it's not enabled by default - have a look at admin/trackers/field types	[16:12]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: I did. Not listed there either	[16:14]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38474 10/branches/8.x/lib/codemirror_tiki/codemirror_tiki.js: tikiwiki: [FIX] Brought the visible event to be called over broader code, seems to help much better on admin panel etc. tikiwiki: [FIX] Ensured that a blank type is sent to syntaxhighlighter.ready	[16:14]
jonnyb	huh?	[16:14]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: Can you svn up on 8 and let me know if with codemirror on, that fixes your problems?	[16:15]
jonnyb	ok RobertPlummer omstefanov_: i see items list in trunk (switching to 8.x anyway... will check) omstefanov_: it's there in 8.x too - tiki-admin.php?page=trackers&cookietab=3 RobertPlummer: the admin/look ones do look better, thanks will leave the feature on again (for a while ;) )	[16:15]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: You da man!	[16:20]
jonnyb	:)	[16:22]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38475 10/trunk/ (lib/trackers/trackerlib.php tiki-view_tracker.php): [KIL] trackers: Remove duplicate import function $trklib->import_items and the currently unused reference to it	[16:22]
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omstefanov_	jonnyb: Sorry, but Jyhem_laptop and I are looking and looking and don't see it anywhere. Tried clearing cache, etc. As you say you can see it, please add an ItemsList field in demo.tiki.org/8.x/ to trackerId=2(Participants) pointing to fieldId=2 in trackerId=1. Jyhem or I can't do it.	[16:22]
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jonnyb	odd - i see it fine and unchecked - here: http://demo.tiki.org/8x/tiki-admin.php?page=trackers&cookietab=3	[16:23]
Jyhem_laptop	Found something interesting: when you are logged in as admin, you can see it in http://demo.tiki.org/8x/tiki-admin.php?page=trackers&cookietab=3 When you are logged as omstefanov who is in the Admins group, you don't.... Even though bing in the admin group should be the same as being user=admin :-(	[16:30]
jonnyb	that's odd indeed...	[16:33]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: Thanks for helping find ItemsList. Am just trying it on demo.t.o/8.x/	[16:35]
jonnyb	strange it doesn't show up for you, i thought you would have spotted it if it was there... (at least there's a workaround)	[16:36]
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Jyhem_laptop	Same with Dynamic something field	[16:36]
jonnyb	only some fields? weird...	[16:37]
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Jyhem_laptop	Only some fields. Stranger yet: once activated as admin, they are still invisible for omstefanov when editing the tracker. Yet, the fields are taken into account in the tracker items list (their column is there and properly filled)	[16:55]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: First of all, THANKS a LOT; 2nd ... jyhem_laptop just beat me to it ... reporting what I don't see in admin->trackers->3rd tab.	[16:56]
jonnyb	no worries - but i wonder why that is... thanks for testing stuff!	[16:58]
Jyhem_laptop	Ahahhhhhh, omstefanov only had "basic" preferences !!!!	[16:59]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: Solution to riddle found (not seeing tracker field types):	[17:00]
jonnyb	hmm? ah, right yes, that one's always fun! has caught me out a few times	[17:00]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: Although my user was Admin, at the top of the admin menu, there's a bar, that shows Basic, Advanced, Experimental, Unavail.; that was off for me, except basic.	[17:01]
jonnyb	yup, that's the defualt now	[17:01]
omstefanov_	Turns out as soon as you click Advanced, ItemsList and a few other field types appeared; more appear when experimental also clicked.	[17:02]
jonnyb	we should add that to the release notes probably	[17:02]
omstefanov_	Somehow, when someone becomes admin, it would seem that all options should be on, by default. Then he/she can turn off those they don't want.	[17:02]
jonnyb	apparently not - it's to avoid scaring off new admins you wouldn't be trying to use ItemsList field types in your first go at Tiki admin	[17:03]
omstefanov_	Johnny: Anyway, I can now report (and everyone can see at demo.tiki.org/8.x/ that Item Link and Items List (again) work.	[17:05]
jonnyb	omstefanov_: thanks, glad to hear it	[17:07]
omstefanov_	jonny: The next problem, shown clearly on demo.t.o/8x in TrackerId 2, is that values Checkboxes are not being "interpreted". In the past, values "y" and "n" became "Yes" and "No" in English, and "Oui" and "Non" in French, etc.	[17:08]
chealer	polom	[17:09]
omstefanov_	And currently, in the 8.x version on demo (r.38471) there is no option to show values or have them interpreted. Could that be done? I.e. use the old interpretation code from 6.x, as default, and for those who want to show just y and n, offer an option.	[17:10]
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omstefanov_	jonnyb: To reply to your earlier question, no this was NOT my first attempt to use ItemsList field types. In my major production site, jiamcatt.org, and it variants, we've been using a whole batch of Item Link fields since early 2010.	[17:12]
Tiki\|bot	Recent Bug: Tracker item: #4019 - - "View edit icons" feature has disappeared - http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4019	[17:12]
jonnyb	omstefanov_: i know you're very experienced with Tiki, it's just you now have to tell Tiki that by checking advanced etc	[17:13]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: How does one update a wiki page with a plugin if it doesn't exist or update the existing instance of it if it does? jonnyb: I'm working on slideshow, need to add a slideshow plugin to a page to configure the current slideshow.	[17:13]
jonnyb	sorry, can't get into the Oui/Non issue, maybe chealer can?	[17:13]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: Thanks chealer: You around?	[17:14]
chealer	hi jonnyb, RobertPlummer	[17:14]
jonnyb	hi chealer	[17:14]
omstefanov_	jonnyb: In fact, since the Item Link field now stores the fieldId instead of the value, as before, your code to convert the database contents when upgrading a site, e.g. from 6.4 to 8.x WILL BE ESSENTIAL, as we have probably around a 1000 Item Link values. Hi chealer	[17:14]
jonnyb	RobertPlummer: don't know - you'll have to cook something up i guess	[17:15]
RobertPlummer	chealer: did you get that? jonnyb: Actually tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php does what I want, but I think it should be in a lib or something.	[17:15]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I don't understand your question. how does one update a wiki page with a plugin if the wiki page doesn't exist?	[17:15]
jonnyb	omstefanov_: the upgrade script wasn't mine - LP did it (and it should run when you upgrade)	[17:15]
RobertPlummer	chealer: in slideshow you can change your theme.	[17:16]
chealer	hi Olaf	[17:16]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Which is a setting found in the plugin "slideshow".	[17:16]
omstefanov_	chealer: I think jonnyb was referring me to you, re the "Oui/Non" issue I referred to above.	[17:16]
RobertPlummer	chealer: So the user changes the theme, I'd like the wiki page to be updated on the fly if able.	[17:16]
chealer	jonnyb: I do know French, but trackers aren't my area :-S RobertPlummer: oh... what does updating a wiki page mean, make the browser refresh it?	[17:17]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Update the wiki page's source, create a new revision.	[17:18]
chealer	RobertPlummer: does "a setting found in the plugin "slideshow"" refer to a plugin parameter?	[17:20]
RobertPlummer	chealer: That is correct	[17:20]
Jyhem_laptop	Has anyone ever tried to set up Registration User Trackers in Tiki8 ?	[17:20]
omstefanov_	jonnyb & chealer: the point is NOT French. It is that Checkbox field type in trackers, which stores "y" or "n" as values, has in all versions of tiki until now always been interpreted on tracker lists. jonnyb & chealer: the interpretation is "Yes" and "No". (if your site lang is English).	[17:21]
chealer	RobertPlummer: OK...I have no idea about slideshows, looking	[17:21]
RobertPlummer	chealer: no no. Just need to know about saving back to wiki page.	[17:22]
chealer	omstefanov_: yeah, I meant to say that trackers aren't my area of expertise. I don't even know how items list works	[17:22]
omstefanov_	jonnyb & chealer: y=Yes and n=No is no big issue. It becomes more of one on sites with site lang other than English. That's why I mentioned y=Oui etc. chealer: I heard you re trackers not being your area of expertise. And yes, at least as of a few minutes ago, ItemsList work. See demo.t.o. What I need is someone who can tackle the Checkbox tracker field type.	[17:22]
RobertPlummer	chealer: I think I have it now.	[17:25]
chealer	RobertPlummer: oh, I think I see what it's about	[17:31]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Just going to use a $.get("tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php", function()});	[17:32]
Jyhem_laptop	Jyhem_laptop sets up User Trackers on demo.to/8x to expose that registration has an isue (the "Register" button not doing anything, unless NoScript is on)	[17:32]
RobertPlummer	It will update if it is there, and it won't update it if it isn't there.	[17:32]
chealer	RobertPlummer: it seems the theme parameter's description "The side on which you would like to display text if there are images that are resized or present" was copy-pasted	[17:32]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Lol, probably. chealer: I will fix it.	[17:32]
chealer	RobertPlummer: thanks. so how does the user the theme? a user can customize his jQuery UI theme or what? RobertPlummer: thanks. so how does the user change the theme? a user can customize his jQuery UI theme or what?	[17:33]
RobertPlummer	chealer: It is a param in the plugin "slideshow". chealer: And when the use click the button at the bottom "slideshow" it brings them to the view, and from there you can change it as well.	[17:34]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38476 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] trackers: Add "convertItemLinkValues" checkbox on items import. This converts ItemLink values (that link one item with another in another database for instance) to tracker itemId's for the current tracker setup.	[17:36]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I see... any idea why I'm not seeing the Slideshow button on http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=Products ? I see it on http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=EnglishHomePage (is there any per-page configuration?)	[17:38]
RobertPlummer	chealer: No headers chealer: You have to use headers to split the content up.	[17:40]
chealer	RobertPlummer: thanks, sorry RobertPlummer: oh, I see what you meant now. I thought in "How does one update a wiki page with a plugin if it doesn't exist" the "it" referred to a wiki page, not a plugin	[17:44]
RobertPlummer	lol I can see how that would be confusing. I enjoy talking in confusion. chealer: Sorry about that.	[17:45]
chealer	makes more sense, but real idea, good that your figured it out makes more sense, but I have no real idea, good that your figured it out	[17:46]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38477 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [REF] trackers import CSV: Optimise auto_inc field update code for new items	[17:51]
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jonnyb	anyone here know about lucene wildcards (and why they might not be working?)	[18:23]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38478 10/branches/8.x/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_slideshow.php): [FIX] Made sure that theme is saved on theme change, also moved "getSlideshowTheme" function to tikilib tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38479 10/branches/8.x/ (tiki-slideshow.php tiki-wikiplugin_edit.php): tikiwiki: [ENH] Added the ability keep plugin's content using keyword ~same~ for parameter content tikiwiki: [FIX] More fixed to keep theme name when changed	[18:34]
jonnyb	er, RobertPlummer - are you in the right branch? (8.0RC1 has been released)	[18:37]
RobertPlummer	Those are fixes, no?	[18:38]
jonnyb	[ENH]? (and refactoring?)	[18:38]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: 2 plugins of slideshow in the same page would break the page. That was a fix.	[18:39]
jonnyb	ok, just checking	[18:41]
RobertPlummer	jonnyb: It is a small change too, not much code moved. jonnyb: Thanks though, you are sharp!	[18:41]
jonnyb	occasionally :)	[18:41]
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sylvieg	:-( when I remove a page, lucene idnexation is not updated?	[19:04]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg - really? shouldn't be hard (i'm fiddling with searching at the moment)	[19:14]
sylvieg	if you think it is not hard ;-) I did not check yet if the code is not there - or if it is a bug	[19:14]
jonnyb	ha ha! asked for that didn't i...	[19:15]
	reckon you need: require_once('lib/search/refresh-functions.php'); refresh_index('pages', $page); (in $tikilib->remove_all_versions but probably the other rollback funcs) sorry, got to go (eat) - will be nearby...	[19:25]
marclaporte	polom	[19:28]
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RobertPlummer	marclaporte: polom	[19:39]
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marclaporte	slideshow!	[19:55]
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Bernard2	i have tried several ticker/rss reader inserted in Tiki to display external feed or tiki feed… We don't have a kind of "standard" solution ?	[20:02]
chealer	hi marclaporte	[20:03]
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chealer	RobertPlummer: jQuery UI theme change is not working for my slideshow	[20:03]
RobertPlummer	chealer: What browser and what version of tiki?	[20:04]
chealer	RobertPlummer: Iceweasel (Firefox) 7, r38480 RobertPlummer: http://ido.ath.cx:8080/tiki/8.x/tiki-index.php?page=Services RobertPlummer: the page is not updated	[20:04]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Do you have the plugin "SLIDESHOW" in your page?	[20:05]
chealer	RobertPlummer: no	[20:06]
RobertPlummer	chealer, you have to add it. It is used to further configure your slideshow. I will make note of that on the doc page.	[20:06]
chealer	ah	[20:11]
	hum, Firefox is telling me a script on 8.x/tiki-admin.php?page=textarea doesn't finish :-( OK, it works when the plugin is already there	[20:18]
RobertPlummer	updated the doc page. chealer, wouldn't it be nice if we had feeds on wiki pages like we do on forums?	[20:22]
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	chealer: I'm getting ready to create a new feature that is similar to doodle.com for calendar. A bit like forcasting a calendar event. Based off of other user's schedule. Anyway, I was wondering what you thought the name should be. "Forcast Event"?	[20:38]
chealer	RobertPlummer: thanks.	[20:39]
RobertPlummer	Or perhaps it would be "Find Date Others Have Open"?	[20:40]
chealer	you mean the bot should report these events on IRC?	[20:40]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Yea, why not, that'd be awesome. If anything, they are way more important than forum. And it;d be great to know what needs attention etc.	[20:40]
chealer	RobertPlummer: I agree. I think Caarrie\|away manages the bot RobertPlummer: interesting. "Forecast" doesn't sounds right to me, but then English is not my native language :-)	[20:40]
RobertPlummer	chealer: What does?	[20:43]
chealer	RobertPlummer: good question. how will other user's schedule be known, user calendar?	[20:44]
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RobertPlummer	I'm assuming we'd use this as an additional popup when setting up an event.	[20:46]
chealer	RobertPlummer: FWIW, I didn't know Doodle's feature, but my friends and I used to use software to do that kind of thing. we would vote on which weekday was best to order pizza for lunch :-)	[20:46]
RobertPlummer	chealer: date vote? I like it! perhaps a bit simple?	[20:46]
chealer	everyone would submit ordered weekday preferences, and we would use Condorcet voting software to calculate the best day, weighed with the number of slices each person would take :-)	[20:47]
RobertPlummer	lol chealer: So this is a different entity than creating an event? or "adding", rather.	[20:47]
chealer	RobertPlummer: hum, I'm not sure what you mean, but it is different in the sense that it was not a punctual event, it was a day good for a university session	[20:50]
RobertPlummer	chealer: Could we use the voting system in tiki ?	[20:51]
chealer	RobertPlummer: hum, not sure. the reason we "voted" is to express our preferences, most importantly based on our classes schedules (which we didn't have in a machine-readable format)	[20:51]
RobertPlummer	chealer: It is the same principle, just with dates, right? chealer: Should it then just be a wiki plugin?	[20:52]
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chealer	RobertPlummer: yes there's a strong similarity RobertPlummer: I don't know what form it should take RobertPlummer: our system also allowed us to express that one day was preferable to another possible day, but it didn't allow us to express how much more desirable it was RobertPlummer: so the available/not available system also has advantages	[20:53]
RobertPlummer	chealer: How about "meeting planner"?	[20:56]
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chealer	RobertPlummer: it's a pretty complex thing to find a common date as a human, it's also very complex to get it done well by a program...	[20:57]
RobertPlummer	chealer: That is true	[20:57]
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chealer	RobertPlummer: well, "meeting" is not very generic, and planner may be vague, but I don't know. there must be other software that does this besides Doodle?	[20:58]
RobertPlummer	https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/	[21:00]
chealer	yeah, I see a list of similar services on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doodle.com	[21:01]
RobertPlummer	Is AGPL Version 3 compat with tiki? chealer: nm, it is written in cgi. chealer: http://code.google.com/p/pleft/ Much better! GR!!! - GNU GPL v3	[21:01]
chealer	yeah. "appointment scheduling tool" does sounds more explicit though	[21:04]
RobertPlummer	chealer: pleft is in python.	[21:05]
chealer	"appointment" doesn't seem very generic to me, but I don't know what would be a good word for that. "scheduling tool" sounds good "meeting scheduling tool"?	[21:08]
RobertPlummer	chealer: ever hear of "CeCILL-B FREE SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT"?	[21:12]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03omstefanov * r38481 10/branches/8.x/lang/de/language.php: [ENH] additional German translation	[21:18]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r38482 10/trunk/lib/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH]category: can also add a filter on the wiki type in the category defaults + reassign categories for wiki page (TODO: filter on other type + rename on other type)	[21:28]
chealer	RobertPlummer: no	[21:35]
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Jyhem_laptop\|afk	I would like to congratulate omstefanov for his first commit o/	[21:58]
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jonnyb	coo, well done omstefanov_ - first one really? congrats!	[21:59]
Jyhem_laptop	correction: first on his new linux on the command line and all	[22:00]
omstefanov_	actually, it's also my first commit since I think it was 2009 ;) it was - you were there too, Jonny, at Matthew's place, during TikiFestGSOC-2009, in early July, that Jyhem helped me do my first commits. we've actually been having a sort of mini-TikiFest here in Vienna - Jyhem and I - since he left the TikiFestFrankfurt last Thurs. ;-)	[22:01]
marclaporte	Robert: http://dev.tiki.org/Scheduler	[22:05]
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CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38483 10/trunk/lib/core/Search/Index/Lucene.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] search: Increase Lucene index maxMergeDocs option from 200 to 5000. tikiwiki: Cures mergeSegments errors when optimising after re-indexing with large numbers of documents (thousands of files in my example). tikiwiki: Incremental indexing still seems to perform ok - the default for this is PHP_INT_MAX so this change is relatively minor in comparison.	[22:54]
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sylvieg	There is a missing clear cache in tiki-objectpermissions. Any clue which caches aer used in perms?	[23:17]
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jonnyb	sylvieg: not exactly - probably temp/cache i guess	[23:19]
sylvieg	I am even not sure if the caches are all in the core/Perms... it is the set of button in fgal virwe (the key buttoon ) I know there are additional cache there	[23:20]
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RobertPlummer	chealer: I've been thinking about your scenario, and I think that it would actually be quite easy to make the scheduler feature. http://apps.zarjay.net/scheduler/ if we were to store the values for each decision in a grid. We can just iterate over the true/false answers and the one with the highest number of true answers wins, right? chealer: I don't see anything complex about it, please help me see this correctly.	[23:33]
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jcyrisse	howdy do!	[23:55]
CIA-12	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r38484 10/trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] trackers import: Remove stray (and strangely sticky) ampersands	[23:56]

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