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| nkoth|nelson | this is harder than it looks. | [00:06] |
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| nkoth|nelson | btw, oliver has fixed the intertiki pbm, so info is back | [00:20] |
| chealer | wuhu | [00:20] |
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| fabricius | hoy woohoo - just read the fix -very cool | [00:45] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Modules; Admin vs Anonymous - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42540 | [04:13] |
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| arildb | Hi, I am trying to call the class Tiki_Webservice in lib/webservicelib.php. If I add require_once 'lib/webservicelib.php' I get a fault "Cannot redeclare class Zend_Soap_Client". If I leave out require_once 'lib/webservicelib.php' , I get an error when calling Tiki_Webservice::getService, that Tiki_Webservice does not exist. Has anybody seen this before? | [07:23] |
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| jp_ | hi there, is there any way to get added tracker id value for something like that: {TRACKER(trackerId="3",showmandatory="y",showstatus="y",embedded="y")}Task $trackerid was added.{TRACKER} | [08:26] |
| Merbster | jp_, the tracker ID will always be the same
the item ID will change though | [08:29] |
| jp_ | you are right, but is there any way to return item id at the end of adding operation? | [08:41] |
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| Merbster | jp_, Depends.
jp_, if it exists in your url param you can use wiki argument variables. jp_, http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki+Argument+Variables <- more here. besides the examples given, if itemid=12 is in your url as a param you can access it by writing {{itemId}} on your wikipage But I am not entirely sure how Wiki handles the itemId in the url when saving trackers and currently I don't have the time to experiment. trackers = tracker items | [08:56] |
| jp_ | I have something like http://localhost/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Add+Task&ok=y&iTRACKER=1#wikiplugin_tracker1 as output | [08:58] |
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| Merbster | jp_, I don't knwo if it's easily achievable what you are trying to do. | [09:09] |
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| Merbster | jp_, the problem is I don't know how to "grab a single value from a tracker" - in this case itemId and then outputting it to a wikipage.
jp_, it can be done but you'd have to use javascript and some backend PHP code to serve the tracker data needed. It might be a bit overkill for just outputting an Item ID | [09:10] |
| jp_ | you are right, I tought there is some easy way as there are itemid filters in many tracker things, and last insert id is something well used in database world | [09:15] |
| you mention something that it would be easier if i have variable in page address, something like http://localhost/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Add+Task&ok=y&iTRACKER=1&itemId=10 - for example ? how to read such? {{itemId}} won't work | [09:23] | |
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| Merbster | jp_, according to docs you can access $_REQUEST variables with argument variables
jp_, another approach if you are not afraid of modifying your tiki is to add an argument variable yourself. But you'd still have to figure out how to fetch the newest tracker item in a specific tracker. Just by typing {{itemId}} | [09:37] |
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| chibaguy | polom | [10:04] |
| fabricius | polom @all
It seems, that I might have understood the principle of the profiles.t.o website I've been likling profiles anyway, but just now got time to look into making a profile by myself The app-store like approach is very cool, but I am missing an opportunity to use kind of an "external source" - for ex, if I need to do frequent installations with specific configurations including emails and such data so kind of "personal profiles", "user profiles" or "external source" would be very nice to have - what do you think? | [10:04] |
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| chibaguy | polom again | [11:17] |
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| fabricius | polom chibaguy | [11:24] |
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| chibaguy | hi fabricius | [11:43] |
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| Merbster | http://dev.tiki.org/spreadsheet <- is this page screwy for anyone else? | [12:07] |
| fabricius | Merbster: yes - the left columns content (#col2) is starting only under the pagebottom
-> firefox 3.6, ubuntu 10.10 | [12:08] |
| Merbster | I just wanted to report it ^^
apparantly it's impossible to copy/paste text from the page not that I need it, I just find it odd. | [12:10] |
| chibaguy | Merbster, there must be a mismatch of div open|close tags in the wikitext.
That's the usual cause of this problem. | [12:18] |
| Merbster | chibaguy, thanks for filling me in :)
is it possible to create a "pivot table" with trackers and actually edit the items in the trackerlist - not going to some other page. But directly where the data is shown? | [12:18] |
| chibaguy | Hmm, I don't see any div tags. Maybe a syntax change from 7 to 8 is creating a problem. | [12:18] |
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| chibaguy | ...like in the tabs wikiplugin syntax. | [12:20] |
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| chibaguy | ...or some combination of syntax like lists and plugins....
I wonder how other people "debug" a broken wiki page like that. Sometimes I end up pasting the wikitext section by section into a new page until it breaks, or commenting out parts until it stops breaking, etc. | [12:30] |
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| fabricius | chibaguy: seems to be an appropriate (but boring and timeconsuming) way | [12:45] |
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| fabricius | TRUNK pre-9 => It seems, that I cannot include a custom module into a wikipage - just standart modules ... doies anybody know? | [12:46] |
| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: no forum indicated, tiki 7.1 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42544 | [12:47] |
| chibaguy | fabricius, can you use custom modules in module zones with no problem? | [12:51] |
| Merbster | fabricius, I think you need to set it as inline before you're allowed to include custom user modules | [12:52] |
| chibaguy | Merbster, what do you mean by "set it as inline"? | [12:53] |
| Merbster | chibaguy, I remember an option in regard to custom user modules where it's allowed to be used as an inline module
inline module = including it in wikipages with plugin markup | [12:53] |
| chibaguy | oh. hmm. | [12:55] |
| fabricius | chibaguy: I could apply the custom module in the left culomn without problem
Merbster: *checking* | [12:56] |
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| chibaguy | fabricius: ok. I have a problem with custom modules in tiki 8 at one hosting company. | [12:59] |
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| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38625 10/branches/8.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Support finfo for PHP 5.2, finfo is a default extension since 5.3, but 5.2 with a manual installation was missing a constant. | [13:01] |
| Merbster | fabricius, I can't find the option in my own tiki
I might have been entirely wrong | [13:06] |
| fabricius | Merbster: I can find it either :-D
in pre-9 TRUNK the whole wikipage thing or the whole app seems to be messy (which seems OK for an early development!?) | [13:10] |
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| lphuberdeau | trunk seems stable to me
no major changes were announced on dev that would indicate some instability, so it should be stable | [13:12] |
| fabricius | I have major problems on editing/creating the first wikipage, but I made up a profile, that could maybe mess up things | [13:18] |
| lphuberdeau | try replicating on a clean install | [13:23] |
| fabricius | Ok, the first problem is solved -> cleared cache and then custom module on wiki page works | [13:24] |
| Merbster | fabricius, whenever you change a custom user module you need to clear the cache | [13:24] |
| fabricius | Merbster: Thx - I think one day I will remind these frequent Error 40 issues - finally this time I just remembered before I had to do fresh installs | [13:31] |
| Merbster | fabricius, with all the fresh installs you do, you must be in training for it ;) | [13:32] |
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| fabricius | Merbster: yes, I am good trained in Error 40 - got familiar to a few of them ;-)
Merbster: but now, as I looked into the profiles thing, I reckon, that the fresh installs will become much faster - especially the configurations part after the initial installation and another thing to become quicker would be to become more familiar with linux shell scripting just some easy snippets and I could copy/paste or so all the chmod stuff and save another 5 minutes ans unpacking via shell should be quicker than via webpanel aswell | [13:51] |
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| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38626 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_convene.php: [NEW] Start of plugin "convene" to choose a date to schedule, rendering works, but needs the user interface to create the dates, users, and votes
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38627 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Usability on adding markers from map | [14:20] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: Limited Banner Permissions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42549
New Forum Posts: $_POST["rows"], $_POST["cols"] leer, tiki 7.1 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=42548 | [14:28] |
| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38628 10/trunk/lib/core/TikiDb/Pdo.php: [REVERT] r38619. Just bad programming, and deprecated in recent versions of PHP. | [14:29] |
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| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38630 10/trunk/lib/wiki/editlib.php: [FIX] Removing more call-time pass by reference (not needed) | [14:38] |
| Merbster | Does anyone know if a clever person created a "Stakeholder analysis" jquery plugin or the like? | [14:42] |
| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38631 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Notices. | [14:42] |
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| lphuberdeau | Merbster, what would that do? | [14:43] |
| Merbster | lphuberdeau, there's this concept. I think it's called a "stakeholder analysis" in english | [14:43] |
| lphuberdeau | I believe I know what that is | [14:43] |
| Merbster | it's the different stakeholders in a projekt and their ability to affect the project | [14:43] |
| lphuberdeau | I have no idea how that would relate to jquery | [14:43] |
| Merbster | if somebody made a jquery plugin that does this :P
also I added "or the like" beacuse I have no idea what to call this. | [14:44] |
| lphuberdeau | I don't know what the plugin would do | [14:45] |
| Merbster | let me see if I can find an example | [14:45] |
| chibaguy | I think stakeholder analysis is maybe related to SWOT as in http://tiki.org/SWOT | [14:45] |
| Merbster | chibaguy, the graphical representation is about the same yes. Allthough the Sterngths, weaknesses etc. would be "floating bubbles" that the user should be able to drag around | [14:46] |
| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38632 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations + some corrections | [14:46] |
| chibaguy | so the jquery plugin produces the graphic, given some data? | [14:47] |
| Merbster | that was my idea yes. | [14:47] |
| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38633 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r38632][TRA] more French translations | [14:47] |
| Merbster | I would use trackers to store the data.
for easy re-use other places etc. the stakeholders you can choose from could come from a contactlist tracker for instance. Should this be an individual plugin? or could it be added to some functionality allready touching on this subject? | [14:47] |
| lphuberdeau | well, probably would not be a feature in tiki per say (really too specific), but it could use other features | [14:51] |
| Merbster | lphuberdeau, I haven't started building this yet. and it has to be done properly this. I don't think I can hack tiki in any way to actually make it userfriendly and robust enough.
So a plugin would be the way to go? | [14:52] |
| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38634 10/trunk/lib/init/tra.php: [FIX] Apparently glob(), this can fail on some systems, check required | [14:53] |
| nkoth|nelson | Merbster sounds like a plugin yes | [14:54] |
| Merbster | makes me happy
I know how to make those :D | [14:54] |
| lphuberdeau | I added a module to create tracker items if that can help | [14:54] |
| nkoth|nelson | I wouldn't call it stakeholder though - something more generic would work | [14:54] |
| Merbster | nkoth|nelson, I agree.
Alot of analysis models use the crossed axis approach | [14:55] |
| nkoth|nelson | you should ask robertplummer if his reports feature can do what you describe though - although I think it is a little differnt | [14:56] |
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| Merbster | lphuberdeau, I thought it was in trackerlib allready?
Or does yours handle updating items also? | [14:56] |
| lphuberdeau | UI/Ajax controls for it | [14:57] |
| Merbster | oh.
great :) I will keep that in mind for when I start work on this | [14:58] |
| lphuberdeau | you might not use the module directly, but the ajax call to create items is most useful ;) | [14:58] |
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| Merbster | That's nice lphuberdeau - I will definately use it when I get to it. | [15:01] |
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| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38635 10/trunk/ (lib/core/Tracker/Item.php modules/mod-func-tracker_input.php): [FIX] Deny all on trackers that do not exist | [15:11] |
| Merbster | I am using the relations field type. I need to store data about the whole tracker and it's contents. it's a Yes/No field that is relevant for all the tracker items in a tracker with a given category.
What I am trying to achieve is to "join" the Yes/No item on all the tracker items that has same category as the Yes/No item. So that if I change Yes to No on ONE of the items, it will reflect on all the items in that same category. what puzzles me is, what am I supposed to write in the filter field of the relations tracker field type. To make it match items on category? can I reference the fields in the two trackers I am trying to join by doing for examples f_402 = f_502 ? | [15:13] |
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| Merbster | no one? | [15:32] |
| fabricius | Merbster: afaik you can reference the fields of two trackers - but how i do not know offhand | [15:37] |
| Merbster | fabricius, I can reference fields from trackers allright. But I need to join 1 item from Tracker X on several items from Tracker Y
If they are in the same category | [15:40] |
| lphuberdeau | Merbster: RobertPlummer might be able to help you out with this as it requires a new feature he has been working on | [15:41] |
| Merbster | lphuberdeau, but can't the relation field type do this allready? | [15:41] |
| lphuberdeau | well, you can create the relationship | [15:42] |
| Merbster | But it will render wrong? | [15:42] |
| lphuberdeau | item link did this too, except that relation is multiple to multiple rather than many to one
the fields render fine on their own but joining in the relational sense is not a feature of trackers | [15:42] |
| Merbster | hmm.
I store several items in Tracker Y. These items are only relevant if the user has picked "Yes" in a drop down menu I need to save the selection in the dropdown menu. So that if User A marks it as "Yes" it will still display Yes when user B enters the same page. I am planning on using jquery to hide/show the relevant fields. So as long as I can save a Yes/No and categorize it. I can use it. I don't even need it shown in relation to the items in tracker Y. | [15:45] |
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| Tiki|bot | New Forum Posts: HTML and Tiki problems - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42552 | [16:08] |
| New Forum Posts: Pretty TrackerList - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42553 | [16:18] | |
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| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38636 10/branches/8.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Update incremental search when categorizing/uncategorizing - happens when using transitions and also when categorizing via profiles | [16:36] |
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| fabricius | re - polom | [16:44] |
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| nkoth|nelson | lphuberdeau, I ran into something non urgent but just wondering if you think there is a quick fix. Basically I tried to nest LIST plugins and the output of the inner one got html encoded... what do you think? | [16:50] |
| lphuberdeau | could it just be missing ~np~ around the return value?
it's not something I tried myself | [16:52] |
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| fabricius | lphuberdeau: as I understood your mail, you did fix the php issue (error on saving) - so I like to update the instance, but I have no SVN-Update capability on my webhost
lphuberdeau: would you recommend me to just update a certain file, or how I can get the actual very very last version (on sourceforge directly) or should I best wait for tomorrows Daily Build? | [17:09] |
| lphuberdeau | fabricius: you decide how you manage your installations | [17:19] |
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| shaun_ | It would be great if i could configure tikiwiki to allow each user to have their own private wiki, blog, file gallery etc. as well as having shared pages among the users. Is there a better way to structure groups and permissions to support this? or is there a way to enable permissions to support the ability to lock out certain users from certain pages? For example. Say i wanted to just jot down my expenses and finances, i don't wa
temporarily as needed. | [17:39] |
| lphuberdeau | shaun_: it's tricky, permissions are based on groups, so you would need one group per user | [17:41] |
| shaun_ | Thats what i was fearing. | [17:42] |
| lphuberdeau | creation is always a bit of an issue as global permissions apply until object permissions are assigned or added to a category | [17:42] |
| shaun_ | I just thought I would ask, just in case there was something I didn't know about. | [17:42] |
| lphuberdeau | the situation is improving, but it takes time | [17:43] |
| fabricius | btw. I need something like that only for tracker - a website, where each user gets his own userspecific preconfigured tracker, only he can see and edit -> could that be done with a usertracker/ userregistrationstracker?
I do NOT mean a trackeritem in a tracker, but a complete tracker, preconfigured as a copy of a default tracker | [17:46] |
| lphuberdeau | kind of the same issue
although since it's limited to a tracker, it makes it a little easier | [17:47] |
| shaun_ | and another question along the same lines... wiki is using ldap for users. is there a way to automatically assign permissions based on memberships in ldap? like if i had an engineering group. if wiki saw that in ldap, it would place them into the user group "engineering" | [17:54] |
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| chealer | hi changi, are you there? | [18:43] |
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| aasorg | is the tiki site experiencing tech difficulties? | [19:16] |
| nkoth|nelson | looks good to me. which site? | [19:18] |
| aasorg | tiki.aas.org | [19:18] |
| nkoth|nelson | tiki.aas.org? is that your site? | [19:19] |
| pascalstjean | doesn't look like a tiki (community) site | [19:23] |
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| sylvieg | nkoth|nelson: you are the one that developed anniversary from group expiration? Does it make sense to extend to expiration at a precise date... I need : can be a member until 1/1/2015 whenever the user goes in | [19:47] |
| nkoth|nelson | sylvieg yes | [19:47] |
| sylvieg | ok thanks | [19:47] |
| nkoth|nelson | extend to expiration to precise date
I was thinking about that, one sec sylvieg: at first I was thinking maybe for that case we willuse a 8 digit anniversary (right now if 2 digit is is a monthly, and if 4 digit, it is a an annual) but then the question comes about what happens after the anniversary passed | [19:47] |
| sylvieg | I need also something like you give a code that is in a tracker and you are in the group that is associated to the code until a specific date that is also associated to the code (via the item of the code) Is there something around like this? | [19:52] |
| nkoth|nelson | and obviously there is no way in that kind of fixed date situation for the user to extend/get more than 1 period
so there are a lot of complications/unanswered questions | [19:52] |
| sylvieg | what questions? | [19:53] |
| nkoth|nelson | such as 1) what happens after the fixed end date? 1/1/ 2015, when is the next date? | [19:54] |
| sylvieg | the term anniversary will be a little strange - but .... we can do expiration date and implement like anniversary | [19:54] |
| nkoth|nelson | is the user allowed to subscribe more than one period at a time? | [19:54] |
| sylvieg | ah becasue anniversary, he can buy 3 months for instance in one shot
? | [19:55] |
| nkoth|nelson | sylvieg: yes, if the anniversary is monthly, he can buy x months at one shot. and if it is annual he can buy x years at one shot.
the first month (or year) is prorated possibly. sylvieg: in your use case, it is different right? Becasue you talk about code. it sounds more like a "validity period" | [19:56] |
| sylvieg | yes | [19:59] |
| nkoth|nelson | and there is no extension of this period, right?
If expired, he just get a different code? | [19:59] |
| sylvieg | yes (or the admin can extend the code ... but mainly yes
it is to give access to any member of a company to a fgal when the company has paid for one year of syupport | [20:01] |
| nkoth|nelson | why not use anniversaries then if the support is 1 year periods? | [20:03] |
| sylvieg | it can be 3 years.. | [20:03] |
| nkoth|nelson | I see...
well, right now there is no way to set the expiry of a "group" in the tracker like you describe. What I used in the tracker is just the ingroups field and also the category<->group sync feature to categorize the tracker item in certain categories with the group names However, I did think of maybe the possibllity of having a way to set multi year anniversary,e .g. 1/1/2012, 1/1/2015, 1/1/2018 basically add another parameter the anniversary can be set as 0101 (which is 1 Jan), an another parameter can specify that it repeat every 3 and starts in 2012, e.g. 3:2012, or something like that or maybe 2 separate parameter, one to specify the "3" and another to specify the "2012" then the anniversary calculation can take into account this. That is as far as I thought about it. | [20:05] |
| sylvieg | :-) | [20:13] |
| nkoth|nelson | the calculation is in $userlib->get_extend_until_info (you probably look there already), and I would add the new handling there if doing it this way | [20:15] |
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| CIA-94 | tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38637 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Basic icon selector field (from file galleries) | [20:30] |
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| teezett | hi i am new to tikiwiki, just trying to get it work | [22:17] |
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