[00:06] this is harder than it looks. [00:20] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [00:20] btw, oliver has fixed the intertiki pbm, so info is back [00:20] wuhu [00:34] *** robertplummer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:45] hoy woohoo - just read the fix -very cool [01:05] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [01:26] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [01:26] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [01:26] *** lindonb has joined #tikiwiki [01:33] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [01:35] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [01:39] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [01:39] *** chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [01:39] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [01:49] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:49] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [01:49] *** chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [01:49] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [01:57] *** chealer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [01:58] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [01:59] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Client Quit) [02:00] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [02:02] *** nkoth|nelson has left [02:05] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [02:15] *** lindonb has quit IRC (Quit: lindonb) [02:23] *** goj has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [02:23] *** goj_killedByISP has joined #tikiwiki [02:23] *** goj_killedByISP is now known as goj [02:26] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [03:52] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [03:53] *** chealer has quit IRC (Changing host) [03:53] *** chealer has joined #tikiwiki [04:13] New Forum Posts: Modules; Admin vs Anonymous - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42540 [04:14] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [05:14] *** mark_doe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [05:18] *** Jyhem_laptop__ has joined #tikiwiki [05:19] *** idle- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:19] *** idle- has joined #tikiwiki [05:20] *** Jyhem_laptop_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:27] *** mark_doe has joined #tikiwiki [06:57] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [06:58] *** mark_doe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [06:59] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [06:59] *** mark_doe has joined #tikiwiki [07:23] Hi, I am trying to call the class Tiki_Webservice in lib/webservicelib.php. If I add require_once 'lib/webservicelib.php' I get a fault "Cannot redeclare class Zend_Soap_Client". If I leave out require_once 'lib/webservicelib.php' , I get an error when calling Tiki_Webservice::getService, that Tiki_Webservice does not exist. Has anybody seen this before? [07:37] *** mark_doe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [07:38] *** mark_doe has joined #tikiwiki [08:00] *** Merbster has joined #tikiwiki [08:16] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [08:17] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:19] *** Wilkins has joined #tikiwiki [08:21] *** jp_ has joined #tikiwiki [08:26] hi there, is there any way to get added tracker id value for something like that: {TRACKER(trackerId="3",showmandatory="y",showstatus="y",embedded="y")}Task $trackerid was added.{TRACKER} [08:29] jp_, the tracker ID will always be the same [08:29] the item ID will change though [08:41] you are right, but is there any way to return item id at the end of adding operation? [08:56] jp_, Depends. [08:56] jp_, if it exists in your url param you can use wiki argument variables. [08:57] jp_, http://doc.tiki.org/Wiki+Argument+Variables <- more here. [08:57] besides the examples given, if itemid=12 is in your url as a param you can access it by writing {{itemId}} on your wikipage [08:58] But I am not entirely sure how Wiki handles the itemId in the url when saving trackers and currently I don't have the time to experiment. [08:58] trackers = tracker items [08:58] I have something like http://localhost/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Add+Task&ok=y&iTRACKER=1#wikiplugin_tracker1 as output [09:06] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [09:09] jp_, I don't knwo if it's easily achievable what you are trying to do. [09:09] *** JoernOtt has joined #tikiwiki [09:10] jp_, the problem is I don't know how to "grab a single value from a tracker" - in this case itemId and then outputting it to a wikipage. [09:12] jp_, it can be done but you'd have to use javascript and some backend PHP code to serve the tracker data needed. It might be a bit overkill for just outputting an Item ID [09:15] you are right, I tought there is some easy way as there are itemid filters in many tracker things, and last insert id is something well used in database world [09:23] you mention something that it would be easier if i have variable in page address, something like http://localhost/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Add+Task&ok=y&iTRACKER=1&itemId=10 - for example ? how to read such? {{itemId}} won't work [09:27] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [09:37] jp_, according to docs you can access $_REQUEST variables with argument variables [09:37] jp_, another approach if you are not afraid of modifying your tiki [09:38] is to add an argument variable yourself. But you'd still have to figure out how to fetch the newest tracker item in a specific tracker. Just by typing {{itemId}} [09:52] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [09:54] *** jp_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:04] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [10:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o chibaguy [10:04] polom [10:04] polom @all [10:05] It seems, that I might have understood the principle of the profiles.t.o website [10:07] I've been likling profiles anyway, but just now got time to look into making a profile by myself [10:08] The app-store like approach is very cool, but I am missing an opportunity to use kind of an "external source" - for ex, if I need to do frequent installations with specific configurations including emails and such data [10:11] so kind of "personal profiles", "user profiles" or "external source" would be very nice to have - what do you think? 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[12:08] Merbster: yes - the left columns content (#col2) is starting only under the pagebottom [12:08] -> firefox 3.6, ubuntu 10.10 [12:10] I just wanted to report it ^^ [12:11] apparantly it's impossible to copy/paste text from the page [12:11] not that I need it, I just find it odd. [12:18] Merbster, there must be a mismatch of div open|close tags in the wikitext. [12:18] That's the usual cause of this problem. [12:18] chibaguy, thanks for filling me in :) [12:18] is it possible to create a "pivot table" with trackers and actually edit the items in the trackerlist - not going to some other page. But directly where the data is shown? [12:18] Hmm, I don't see any div tags. Maybe a syntax change from 7 to 8 is creating a problem. [12:18] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [12:20] ...like in the tabs wikiplugin syntax. [12:25] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [12:28] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [12:30] ...or some combination of syntax like lists and plugins.... [12:31] I wonder how other people "debug" a broken wiki page like that. Sometimes I end up pasting the wikitext section by section into a new page until it breaks, or commenting out parts until it stops breaking, etc. [12:31] *** arildb has joined #tikiwiki [12:42] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:42] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [12:45] chibaguy: seems to be an appropriate (but boring and timeconsuming) way [12:45] *** GillesM has joined #tikiwiki [12:46] TRUNK pre-9 => It seems, that I cannot include a custom module into a wikipage - just standart modules ... doies anybody know? [12:47] New Forum Posts: no forum indicated, tiki 7.1 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42544 [12:51] fabricius, can you use custom modules in module zones with no problem? [12:52] fabricius, I think you need to set it as inline before you're allowed to include custom user modules [12:53] Merbster, what do you mean by "set it as inline"? [12:53] chibaguy, I remember an option in regard to custom user modules where it's allowed to be used as an inline module [12:54] inline module = including it in wikipages with plugin markup [12:55] oh. hmm. [12:56] chibaguy: I could apply the custom module in the left culomn without problem [12:56] Merbster: *checking* [12:58] *** robertplummer has joined #tikiwiki [12:59] fabricius: ok. I have a problem with custom modules in tiki 8 at one hosting company. [13:00] *** nkoth|nelson has joined #tikiwiki [13:01] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38625 10/branches/8.x/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Support finfo for PHP 5.2, finfo is a default extension since 5.3, but 5.2 with a manual installation was missing a constant. [13:06] fabricius, I can't find the option in my own tiki [13:06] I might have been entirely wrong [13:10] Merbster: I can find it either :-D [13:11] in pre-9 TRUNK the whole wikipage thing or the whole app seems to be messy (which seems OK for an early development!?) [13:11] *** radek82 has joined #tikiwiki [13:12] trunk seems stable to me [13:14] no major changes were announced on dev that would indicate some instability, so it should be stable [13:18] I have major problems on editing/creating the first wikipage, but I made up a profile, that could maybe mess up things [13:23] try replicating on a clean install [13:24] Ok, the first problem is solved -> cleared cache and then custom module on wiki page works [13:24] fabricius, whenever you change a custom user module you need to clear the cache [13:31] Merbster: Thx - I think one day I will remind these frequent Error 40 issues - finally this time I just remembered before I had to do fresh installs [13:32] fabricius, with all the fresh installs you do, you must be in training for it ;) [13:42] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [13:51] Merbster: yes, I am good trained in Error 40 - got familiar to a few of them ;-) [13:53] Merbster: but now, as I looked into the profiles thing, I reckon, that the fresh installs will become much faster - especially the configurations part after the initial installation [13:53] and another thing to become quicker would be to become more familiar with linux shell scripting [13:54] just some easy snippets and I could copy/paste or so all the chmod stuff and save another 5 minutes [13:54] ans unpacking via shell should be quicker than via webpanel aswell [14:03] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [14:20] tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38626 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_convene.php: [NEW] Start of plugin "convene" to choose a date to schedule, rendering works, but needs the user interface to create the dates, users, and votes [14:23] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38627 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Usability on adding markers from map [14:24] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [14:28] New Forum Posts: Limited Banner Permissions - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42549 [14:28] New Forum Posts: $_POST["rows"], $_POST["cols"] leer, tiki 7.1 - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=10&comments_parentId=42548 [14:29] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38628 10/trunk/lib/core/TikiDb/Pdo.php: [REVERT] r38619. Just bad programming, and deprecated in recent versions of PHP. [14:37] *** arildb_ has joined #tikiwiki [14:37] *** arildb has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:38] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38630 10/trunk/lib/wiki/editlib.php: [FIX] Removing more call-time pass by reference (not needed) [14:42] Does anyone know if a clever person created a "Stakeholder analysis" jquery plugin or the like? [14:42] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38631 10/trunk/lib/modules/modlib.php: [FIX] Notices. [14:43] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [14:43] Merbster, what would that do? [14:43] lphuberdeau, there's this concept. I think it's called a "stakeholder analysis" in english [14:43] I believe I know what that is [14:43] it's the different stakeholders in a projekt and their ability to affect the project [14:43] I have no idea how that would relate to jquery [14:44] if somebody made a jquery plugin that does this :P [14:44] also I added "or the like" beacuse I have no idea what to call this. [14:45] I don't know what the plugin would do [14:45] let me see if I can find an example [14:45] I think stakeholder analysis is maybe related to SWOT as in http://tiki.org/SWOT [14:46] chibaguy, the graphical representation is about the same yes. Allthough the Sterngths, weaknesses etc. would be "floating bubbles" that the user should be able to drag around [14:46] tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38632 10/trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TRA] more French translations + some corrections [14:47] so the jquery plugin produces the graphic, given some data? [14:47] that was my idea yes. [14:47] tikiwiki: 03jean-lucnavarro * r38633 10/branches/8.x/lang/fr/language.php: [bp/r38632][TRA] more French translations [14:47] I would use trackers to store the data. [14:48] for easy re-use other places etc. [14:48] the stakeholders you can choose from could come from a contactlist tracker for instance. [14:50] Should this be an individual plugin? [14:50] or could it be added to some functionality allready touching on this subject? [14:51] well, probably would not be a feature in tiki per say (really too specific), but it could use other features [14:52] lphuberdeau, I haven't started building this yet. and it has to be done properly this. I don't think I can hack tiki in any way to actually make it userfriendly and robust enough. [14:52] So a plugin would be the way to go? [14:53] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38634 10/trunk/lib/init/tra.php: [FIX] Apparently glob(), this can fail on some systems, check required [14:54] Merbster sounds like a plugin yes [14:54] makes me happy [14:54] I know how to make those :D [14:54] I added a module to create tracker items if that can help [14:54] I wouldn't call it stakeholder though - something more generic would work [14:55] nkoth|nelson, I agree. [14:55] Alot of analysis models use the crossed axis approach [14:56] you should ask robertplummer if his reports feature can do what you describe though - although I think it is a little differnt [14:56] *** _qP has joined #tikiwiki [14:56] lphuberdeau, I thought it was in trackerlib allready? [14:57] Or does yours handle updating items also? [14:57] UI/Ajax controls for it [14:58] oh. [14:58] great :) [14:58] I will keep that in mind for when I start work on this [14:58] you might not use the module directly, but the ajax call to create items is most useful ;) [14:59] *** radek82 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [15:01] That's nice lphuberdeau - I will definately use it when I get to it. [15:04] *** _qP is now known as radek82 [15:11] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38635 10/trunk/ (lib/core/Tracker/Item.php modules/mod-func-tracker_input.php): [FIX] Deny all on trackers that do not exist [15:13] I am using the relations field type. I need to store data about the whole tracker and it's contents. it's a Yes/No field that is relevant for all the tracker items in a tracker with a given category. [15:13] What I am trying to achieve is to "join" the Yes/No item on all the tracker items that has same category as the Yes/No item. [15:14] So that if I change Yes to No on ONE of the items, it will reflect on all the items in that same category. [15:18] what puzzles me is, what am I supposed to write in the filter field of the relations tracker field type. To make it match items on category? [15:19] can I reference the fields in the two trackers I am trying to join [15:20] by doing for examples f_402 = f_502 ? [15:23] *** arildb_ is now known as arildb [15:32] no one? [15:37] Merbster: afaik you can reference the fields of two trackers - but how i do not know offhand [15:40] fabricius, I can reference fields from trackers allright. But I need to join 1 item from Tracker X on several items from Tracker Y [15:40] If they are in the same category [15:41] Merbster: RobertPlummer might be able to help you out with this as it requires a new feature he has been working on [15:41] lphuberdeau, but can't the relation field type do this allready? [15:42] well, you can create the relationship [15:42] But it will render wrong? [15:42] item link did this too, except that relation is multiple to multiple rather than many to one [15:42] the fields render fine on their own [15:43] but joining in the relational sense is not a feature of trackers [15:45] hmm. [15:45] I store several items in Tracker Y. These items are only relevant if the user has picked "Yes" in a drop down menu [15:46] I need to save the selection in the dropdown menu. So that if User A marks it as "Yes" it will still display Yes when user B enters the same page. [15:46] I am planning on using jquery to hide/show the relevant fields. [15:48] So as long as I can save a Yes/No and categorize it. I can use it. I don't even need it shown in relation to the items in tracker Y. [16:01] *** Merbster has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [16:08] *** SJ-Jay has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:08] New Forum Posts: HTML and Tiki problems - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42552 [16:18] New Forum Posts: Pretty TrackerList - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=42553 [16:27] *** robertplummer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [16:35] *** fabricius has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [16:36] tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38636 10/branches/8.x/lib/categories/categlib.php: [FIX] Update incremental search when categorizing/uncategorizing - happens when using transitions and also when categorizing via profiles [16:44] *** fabricius has joined #tikiwiki [16:44] polom [16:44] re - polom [16:45] *** arildb has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [16:50] lphuberdeau, I ran into something non urgent but just wondering if you think there is a quick fix. Basically I tried to nest LIST plugins and the output of the inner one got html encoded... what do you think? [16:52] could it just be missing ~np~ around the return value? [16:54] it's not something I tried myself [17:00] *** Wilkins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:09] lphuberdeau: as I understood your mail, you did fix the php issue (error on saving) - so I like to update the instance, but I have no SVN-Update capability on my webhost [17:10] lphuberdeau: would you recommend me to just update a certain file, or how I can get the actual very very last version (on sourceforge directly) or should I best wait for tomorrows Daily Build? [17:19] fabricius: you decide how you manage your installations [17:22] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:30] *** shaun_ has joined #tikiwiki [17:39] It would be great if i could configure tikiwiki to allow each user to have their own private wiki, blog, file gallery etc. as well as having shared pages among the users. Is there a better way to structure groups and permissions to support this? or is there a way to enable permissions to support the ability to lock out certain users from certain pages? For example. Say i wanted to just jot down my expenses and finances, i don't wa [17:40] temporarily as needed. [17:41] shaun_: it's tricky, permissions are based on groups, so you would need one group per user [17:42] Thats what i was fearing. [17:42] creation is always a bit of an issue as global permissions apply until object permissions are assigned or added to a category [17:42] I just thought I would ask, just in case there was something I didn't know about. [17:43] the situation is improving, but it takes time [17:46] btw. I need something like that only for tracker - a website, where each user gets his own userspecific preconfigured tracker, only he can see and edit -> could that be done with a usertracker/ userregistrationstracker? [17:46] I do NOT mean a trackeritem in a tracker, but a complete tracker, preconfigured as a copy of a default tracker [17:47] kind of the same issue [17:47] although since it's limited to a tracker, it makes it a little easier [17:54] and another question along the same lines... wiki is using ldap for users. is there a way to automatically assign permissions based on memberships in ldap? like if i had an engineering group. if wiki saw that in ldap, it would place them into the user group "engineering" [17:55] *** changi has joined #tikiwiki [17:56] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:59] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [17:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [18:05] *** shaun_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [18:10] *** sylvieg has joined #tikiwiki [18:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sylvieg [18:18] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [18:35] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [18:38] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [18:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o marclaporte [18:43] hi changi, are you there? [19:05] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [19:08] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [19:09] *** Bernard1 has joined #tikiwiki [19:15] *** aasorg has joined #tikiwiki [19:16] is the tiki site experiencing tech difficulties? [19:18] looks good to me. which site? [19:18] tiki.aas.org [19:19] tiki.aas.org? is that your site? [19:23] doesn't look like a tiki (community) site [19:25] *** Bernard1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [19:26] *** mark_doe has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:30] *** mark_doe has joined #tikiwiki [19:30] *** aasorg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:47] nkoth|nelson: you are the one that developed anniversary from group expiration? Does it make sense to extend to expiration at a precise date... I need : can be a member until 1/1/2015 whenever the user goes in [19:47] sylvieg yes [19:47] ok thanks [19:47] extend to expiration to precise date [19:48] I was thinking about that, one sec [19:51] sylvieg: at first I was thinking maybe for that case we willuse a 8 digit anniversary (right now if 2 digit is is a monthly, and if 4 digit, it is a an annual) [19:51] but then the question comes about what happens after the anniversary passed [19:52] I need also something like you give a code that is in a tracker and you are in the group that is associated to the code until a specific date that is also associated to the code (via the item of the code) Is there something around like this? [19:52] and obviously there is no way in that kind of fixed date situation for the user to extend/get more than 1 period [19:52] so there are a lot of complications/unanswered questions [19:53] what questions? [19:54] such as 1) what happens after the fixed end date? 1/1/ 2015, when is the next date? [19:54] the term anniversary will be a little strange - but .... we can do expiration date and implement like anniversary [19:54] is the user allowed to subscribe more than one period at a time? [19:55] ah becasue anniversary, he can buy 3 months for instance in one shot [19:55] ? [19:56] sylvieg: yes, if the anniversary is monthly, he can buy x months at one shot. and if it is annual he can buy x years at one shot. [19:56] the first month (or year) is prorated possibly. [19:58] sylvieg: in your use case, it is different right? Becasue you talk about code. [19:59] it sounds more like a "validity period" [19:59] yes [19:59] and there is no extension of this period, right? [19:59] If expired, he just get a different code? [20:01] yes (or the admin can extend the code ... but mainly yes [20:01] it is to give access to any member of a company to a fgal when the company has paid for one year of syupport [20:03] why not use anniversaries then if the support is 1 year periods? [20:03] it can be 3 years.. [20:05] I see... [20:07] well, right now there is no way to set the expiry of a "group" in the tracker like you describe. What I used in the tracker is just the ingroups field and also the category<->group sync feature to categorize the tracker item in certain categories with the group names [20:08] However, I did think of maybe the possibllity of having a way to set multi year anniversary,e .g. 1/1/2012, 1/1/2015, 1/1/2018 [20:08] basically add another parameter [20:10] the anniversary can be set as 0101 (which is 1 Jan), an another parameter can specify that it repeat every 3 and starts in 2012, e.g. 3:2012, or something like that [20:11] or maybe 2 separate parameter, one to specify the "3" and another to specify the "2012" [20:11] then the anniversary calculation can take into account this. [20:12] That is as far as I thought about it. [20:13] :-) [20:15] the calculation is in $userlib->get_extend_until_info (you probably look there already), and I would add the new handling there if doing it this way [20:28] *** marclaporte1 has joined #tikiwiki [20:30] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r38637 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Basic icon selector field (from file galleries) [20:32] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [20:55] *** radek82 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:04] *** Dheipak has joined #tikiwiki [21:06] *** Dheipak has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:29] *** marclaporte1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [22:05] *** GillesM has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:16] *** teezett has joined #tikiwiki [22:16] *** nkoth|nelson has left [22:17] hi i am new to tikiwiki, just trying to get it work [22:24] *** teezett has left