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   fabricius: bye Marc
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   Merbster: Good day to everyone :)
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   xavi: polom
   <br> I need some advice on where to add an icon to allow users to view tracker item history, when they are viewing an item
   <br> I mean, the feature is there even in 6.x (https://ueb.ir.vhebron.net/tiki-tracker_view_history.php?itemId=X), but it's not available from tiki-view_tracker_item.php (tpl, in fact) but only, afaik, from tiki-view_tracker.php (tpl)
   <br> I was planning to add the icon next to the "watch" icon for the tracker item view...
   <br> anyone connected and from the UI team?
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   xavi: <u>ricks99</u>: right in time, again :-)
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r38698 10/branches/7.x/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [bp/r38697][FIX]Usability fix to show icon and link to tracker item history also in item view in case item has versions for some of its fields.
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   coaboa: hello tikiverse
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   fabricius: polom everybody
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   chealer: hey ricks99
   Jyhem_laptop: polom
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   ricks99: hi chealer
   chealer: <u>ricks99</u>: 7.3 and 8.0 are released, we just need to announce them now
   ricks99: do both included the security fix?
   <br> who to attribute to? can you update the news item on upcoming news page?
   Jyhem_laptop: shouldn't the announcement of attribution of the security fix be after the release of fixed 6.x LTS ?
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   nkoth|nelson: anyone here has experience solving "Object of class Smarty_Internal_Template could not be converted to string" errors? I have one on upgrading to 8.x and from my googling it's a php5.2 bug
   fabricius: hello - I have a css problem - two similar modules I am not getting to look in the same way - dependant on the browser (in Chrome OK, in FF wrong)
   <br> I would need a hint what the reason could be - could somebody have a quick look at thetwo  sreenshots at h?ttp://fabricius.me/Screenshots
   <br> http://fabricius.me/Screenshots ?
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   nkoth|nelson: ok , traced it to the {poll}
   RobertPlummer: polom all
   nkoth|nelson: <u>chealer</u>: fixes for 8.x go as usual direct into branches/8.x for now right?
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   chealer: nkoth|nelson: yes
   <br> nkoth|nelson: ah, {poll} in a module...always fun
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   chealer: nkoth|nelson: see http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&amp;status=o&amp;sort_mode=f_41_desc&amp;filterfield=26&amp;filtervalue%5B26%5D=poll&amp;filter=Go&amp;itemId=2405&amp;show=view
   RobertPlummer: polom marclaporte
   nkoth|nelson: <u>chealer</u>: can you assist me check something?
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   chealer: nkoth|nelson: sure....
   nkoth|nelson: <u>chealer</u>: lib/init/smarty.php line 246
   <br> The variable $content_type
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: yes?
   nkoth|nelson: one sec, I may be on to something
   <br> chealer, ok let me explain
   <br> for some reason when I use {poll id=1} in a modules, that variable is a Smarty_Internal_Template object instead of the content_type string
   <br> the other day someone was having a smarty eval related problem what was that?
   <br> chealer, do you have a working {poll} inside a module?
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: I think chibaguy had problems with servers that don't have an eval function
   <br> nkoth|nelson: and Tiki 8 relies on it for modules now
   <br> nkoth|nelson: so I assume you don't have a debugger on the install where that problem happens?
   nkoth|nelson: no
   <br> but some modules are working
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   nkoth|nelson: only the poll is causing this error due to the content_type variable being the Smarty emplate object which is really strange
   <br> I see. maybe the problem is that  function.poll.php is using smarty-&gt;display
   <br> shouldn't it use fetch and then return the output?
   <br> ok, that fixes it
   <br> let me commit
   chibaguy: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/23826
   CIA-94: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r38701 10/branches/8.x/lib/smarty_tiki/function.poll.php: [FIX] Solve 'Object of class Smarty_Internal_Template could not be converted to string' error when using {poll id=x} in module. display should not be called from any of these functions anyway
   nkoth|nelson: chibaguy, chealer ^
   <br> seem like a separate issue from the custom module thing though
   chibaguy: heh, unfortunately
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: looks like you're fixing Argerich code http://tikiwiki.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/tiki/Smarty/plugins/function.poll.php?revision=1.1&amp;view=markup
   nkoth|nelson: <u>chealer</u>: lol, well I think the problem is only recently due to Smarty 3 or something
   <br> because for sure it had no problem in the past
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: well what changed then? display and fetch were always very different things
   <br> I seem to remember problems with {poll} for as long as I know Tiki
   nkoth|nelson: I am guessing it might have to do with the switch of the $smarty from referring to the smarty template object from the smarty instance object from smarty 2 to 3?
   chealer: I doubt one could convert to a string more than the other
   nkoth|nelson: all of the other custom tiki smarty functions use fetch. only this one use disply, it probably worked because smarty older versions were lax abt it or something
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   fabricius: did or does anybody have a chance for a quick view on my screenshot?
   <br> it's just a menu button design thing with css - I think I just miss s.th. and s.b. could maybe easily guide me the direction to go ahead myself
   nkoth|nelson: <u>fabricius</u>: i had a quick glance, hard to tell without firebugging. margins, paddings or something
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   fabricius: thx nkoth|nelson - what do you think i should look for with firebug? are there more tools for FF and Chrome to find out stuff like that?
   <br> another thing I realised: this particular module (switch language) counts up a selector from time to tim, so I have to adjust the number in the css: * mod-switch_langt5 * was 1 and now it is 5
   nkoth|nelson: if you inspect the element in firebug you will get a chance to remove/adjust css classes that apply to that element in real time - that way you can seee how it responds to the changes
   fabricius: once the module counts up, I just see the ordinary default button; when I adjust the numbers in the css, it is back like on the screenshots
   <br> similar to webdeveloper in FF and inspect element in Chrome?
   <br> -&gt; with these standart tools I do not find anything up to now
   nkoth|nelson: similar to inspect element in chrome but better imo
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   fabricius: I'll try
   <br> thx for the hint
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   fabricius: if you have more ideas, just throw them in my direction - if I do not find a solution I might write in the forum or one of the lists
   <br> I thak you for checking and guiding
   ricks99|away: ping changi
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   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Improvements to the visible event
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Better integration for viewing timesheet, switched to visible event
   <br> tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38704 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Layout fixes
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Added permissions for tracker items, since that is where they are stored
   RobertPlummer: polom chealer
   chealer: hi RobertPlummer
   <br> nkoth|nelson: note that #2405 is still open (the tracker item status)
   nkoth|nelson: i tought it was closed before?
   <br> I see the ticket status is closed but tracker item is open
   <br> should i put it to pending?
   <br> I have always taken not sure the difference between pending and lcosed
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: it's not clear indeed, but I'd say in our context pending means waiting for input from submitter
   <br> thanks
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   gandy909: hello
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   gandy909: I'm not having a lot of success with AD authentication on tiki64. the 'Connect Host' ldap log message in tiki looks like it has the correct parameters, there is no error message in the log, but I get presented with a http 500 error in the browser.  Anyone have any tips for me?
   nkoth|nelson: gandy909, unfortunately no. What OS is this server? Do you have the PHP ldap components installed?
   <br> but 500 internal server error is rare, perhaps some other server/apache misconfig. check the apache error logs
   chealer: LDAP is known to have problems in 6.4
   <br> Tiki 7 or 8 may be better, but probably still buggy
   gandy909: the hosting server is ubunto 10.04.  the AD domain controller is 2008R2.  It is a fresh install if tiki6.4
   chealer: the least you could do is to enable error reporting
   nkoth|nelson: check the apache error log. 500 errors should be logged there
   gandy909: on tiki?
   <br> 10.98.64.130 - - [04/Nov/2011:14:18:12 -0500] "POST /tiki/tiki-login.php HTTP/1.1" 500 498 "http://10.98.64.52/tiki/tiki-login_scr.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatib le; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; chromeframe/15.0.874.106; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NE T CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)"
   <br> thats the latest 500 error
   nkoth|nelson: that looks like the access_log, try the error_log instead
   gandy909: I looked there first.  noting there in several hours, and even then only complaints about missing favicons
   nkoth|nelson: is it working fine without LDAP?
   gandy909: yes it was
   nkoth|nelson: sorry that didn't help - you could try make sure there error reporting is enabled in tiki to see if thre are any php errors to be reported that way. Also check tiki-phpinfo.php to see if the ldap module is installed. other than that I cant think of anything. normally 500 errors are in error_log
   <br> I typically never get any 500 errors with ldap problems, usually white screens or other things are more likely
   <br> did you make any custom changes to .htaccess? an error there would cause a 500
   gandy909: negative no custom changes.  what should I see in the phpinfo output?  i did a search for "ldap" and nothings is there
   nkoth|nelson: this probaly means you don't have it installed. try apt-get install php5-ldap
   gandy909: ahh, ok, done.  do i need to restart something now?
   nkoth|nelson: should restart apache
   gandy909: thank you very much.  that solved the issue.  I don't know why I didn't think of that
   <br> what version are 'most' people running in production environments these days?
   nkoth|nelson: 6, 7 and 8, but expect that most on 7 will be upgrading to 8 now that it is released
   fabricius: I am on 8 and pre-9 already
   <br> since 7.1 was released I made only Daily Build installations on several sites ... feels a bit like sailing in the wind ;-)
   gandy909: fabricius The O.G.R.E?
   fabricius: no, I am not involved there, but have heard of the site and watched it from time to time
   gandy909: so its pretty stable then?
   <br> v7 that is
   fabricius: hmm I was going to dogfood, as I at the moment have not to maintain any full productive site - developments in different stages with few users
   <br> so it is an ideal situation to test the new code
   <br> and once on the "head" of a version, meaning the prerelease dev stuff, I madeery fast the experience, that error reporting is very helpul for the devs and fixes are maid v
   <br> very fast
   <br> did feel somehow even better than stable
   nkoth|nelson: <u>gandy909</u>: support for 7 is being replaced by 9
   <br> I mean 8
   <br> so you really should be using either 6 or 8, not 7
   fabricius: Ok sometimes my heard was bumping ...
   <br> ah yes gandy909 absolutely right what nkoth|nelson says
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   fabricius: I even would moire strongly recommend 8, because from 6 to 7 there have been several changes which could make afterworks necessary when you upgrade
   <br> nothing major, but maybe some timeconsuming and boring restructuring
   gandy909: what will the next LTS version be?
   fabricius: 9
   <br> not directly from 9.0 but maybe from 9.2 or 9.3
   gandy909: what is the estimate on when that will happen?
   fabricius: I mean that we give it the official LTS medal ;-)
   nkoth|nelson: in my opinion if this is a new site is is better to try tikii 8
   fabricius: more weeks than month ... count back to the 8 release and then 1/2 year forward - thats about when Tiki9 will be released
   gandy909: will 8-&gt;9 be a simple upgrade for an existing site when that time comes?
   nkoth|nelson: probaly May 2012
   <br> 8-&gt;9 will be the easiest upgrade, easier than 6-&gt;9
   fabricius: 8-&gt;9 simple upgrade, yes
   gandy909: ok. back to the download section then :)
   fabricius: nkoth|nelson gandy909 it depends on the type of the project=&gt; is a quick stable site needed and user strat soon, then start with 8 first
   <br> nkoth|nelson gandy909 but if its a mor longterm development with start in next spring time, then go with 9 straight away and use the new functions ... some little bits and pieces are more in 9 than in 8 that will ease my life and which alone make it worth, that I go productive even with pre-9
   <br> but might be in another situation than gandy
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   <br> tikiwiki: [REF] Cleanup after r31434
   <br> tikiwiki: Note: untested. should probably be looked at by someone who knows what this is supposed to do.
   fabricius: hi coaboa
   coaboa: hi fabricius
   <br> looks like
   fabricius: I need to get rid of some designelement (buttonlike) for a switch_language module
   <br> at the moment I am viewing in a tpl file
   <br> cannot really even read smarty, but try to figure things out
   <br> how can I comment in a .tpl file?
   Jyhem: <u>fabricius</u>: {* comment *}
   gandy909: innodb now safe to use in 8?
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   fabricius: Jyhem thank you
   chealer: <u>gandy909</u>: it's experimental
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   CIA-94: tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r38708 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Added fix for nested array items in simple array
   <br> tikiwiki: [ENH] Started work on joining reports
   <br> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r38709 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [ENH]hotword: setting for the hotword delimiter. :: can be use in class notation
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   CIA-94: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38710 10/branches/8.x/lib/smarty_tiki/ (block.self_link.php block.title.php function.query.php):
   <br> tikiwiki: [FIX] Broken links from self_link (and button) with double-HTML-encoded ampersands
   <br> tikiwiki: Note: Gentler approach to replace most of r38639.
   <br> tikiwiki: Thanks to Jonny Bradley
   fabricius: <u>chealer</u>: is InnoDB only for the installation prozess (database setup) or does ist change the database at all?
   chealer: <u>fabricius</u>: it's not just for the installation, it's the MySQL database's format (alternative to MyISAM)
   nkoth|nelson: chealer:
   CIA-94: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r38711 10/branches/7.x/lib/smarty_tiki/ (block.self_link.php block.title.php function.query.php): [bp/r38710][FIX] Broken links from self_link (and button) with double-HTML-encoded ampersands
   nkoth|nelson: I was thinking abt the double encode thing
   chealer: ...
   nkoth|nelson: and was wondering, so is one encode done in php and another in smarty or what?
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: they're both done in PHP, one in self_link and another one depending on the problem
   nkoth|nelson: in php 5.2.3, a double_encode param was added to htmlspecialchars http://php.net/manual/en/function.htmlspecialchars.php I was wondering if that will help
   chealer: in the case of pagehistory (and most cases) the problem comes from the query function
   <br> nkoth|nelson: that could help for a quick patch, but I already did one
   <br> (and we don't officially require 5.2.3)
   nkoth|nelson: well I suppose we require 5.2 and there are probably no 5.2.1 or 5.2.2 existing in the wild I think
   <br> anyway, if your fix work that is fine
   chealer: I think it works, but it's not the most pleasant code to have to touch
   nkoth|nelson: also, jonny's other problem regarding login password change, did you encounter it?
   <br> anyway, so what do we do, release 8.1 next week?
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: I didn't notice that I encountered it, but no time to look at that one
   fabricius: <u>chealer</u>: thx - I did use InnoDB when I installed my new private site recently - starting with Trunk
   <br> just a few days ago (sunday or maonday)
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   chealer: hum do you undo a merge on your checkout that went bad?
   -: chealer about to kill svn
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   sylvieg: chealer do not commit
   <br> rm and co
   chealer: <u>sylvieg</u>: a new checkout?
   sylvieg: it happens to me .. if you did not commit - it is still in your local
   <br> so I must admit a couple of time I rm co
   <br> it is when merge backport .. does not work anymore with svn
   chealer: meh, this sucks
   <br> nkoth|nelson: ASAP
   nkoth|nelson: asap what?
   chealer: nkoth|nelson: 8.1
   nkoth|nelson: ah
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