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CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39126 10/trunk/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] add 6.5 version change for trunk [06:31]
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CIA-68tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r39127 10/branches/proposals/6.x/lang/pt-br/language.php: backporting pt-br translations [10:38]
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Trebly<jonnyb> Hi, happy to meet you again here. What do you think about my #4072. The practical incident is closed (it cost a lot of time to find), because I found in detail de differences between my db and the validated list of patch, but :
1- my analysis
2- my solution for a better and heavy reliability, which is able to be a filter which can filter any error of structure
3- It remains after db data upgrade the risk of failure of coherency , after Mysql coherency checkup, TIKI coherency which need a lot of checkups corresponding to the level of the product linked with upgrades of DB columns and records management rules. 		[12:34]
jonnybhi Trebly - not sure what you mean by #4072 sorry [12:36]
ricks99polom y'all [12:39]
jonnybhi ricks99 [12:44]
ricks99has anyone looked/tested 6.5? ok to send annoucements? [12:44]
jonnybsorry, maybe over the w/end [12:50]
ricks99k [12:57]
Trebly<jonnyb> I published the whislist and bug #4072 (and many others).
I got a problem of database.
As I had no answer at all, I search the error by trace into the execution.
The error was a not coherency into database that the installer couldn't solve and was asking in loop to be run without changing anything.
For this problem solution and so that this could not happen anymore to anybody I make proposals.
I ask to the developper what they think about, and I first talk to you about this.
I don't know what can be is in project, why nothing more that the actual solution has not been done etc. 		[12:59]
jonnybwhy me?
(sorry, very busy)
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CIA-68tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r39128 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [ENH] unified search: Expose process queue to admin/search and add some simple links for processing it [13:09]
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Trebly<jonnyb> You specially you, but you know, I believe so, with whom I can study this subject and build an advanced proposal avoiding to work alone in a wrong direction
Sorry miswriting : Not specially you, but you know, I believe so, with whom I can study this subject and build an advanced proposal avoiding to work alone in a wrong direction 		[13:34]
jonnybthanks Trebly, but i can't get into anything like this for a while - maybe next month/year? [13:36]
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Tiki|botNew Forum Posts: Check list avec la table des matieres - http://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=7&comments_parentId=42756 [13:53]
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jonnybhi lphuberdeau - is there an existing script to run processUpdateQueue from shell/cron? (i just wrote one anyway but thought i should check - i called it lib/search/shell.php) [15:17]
lphuberdeauwell, right now, processUpdateQueue kind of gets called on every page, there is no way to skip it
it has to be called manually, but there is no global switch to set it off 		[15:26]
jonnybi'm working on a big tracker that needs lots of items importing often and the queue gets really big, so i want to set up a cron job to process them in the background - what i've done seems to work ok but thought i should check
the call on "sort of every page" can stay though 		[15:28]
lphuberdeaudoesn't running once at the end do it? [15:29]
jonnybif you specify the number to process, otherwise it only does 10 of them
and processing 100's times out in the browser
i added a q & d link on admin/search but it's not ideal
i think we should also have an "official" way to be able to do index rebuild from cron, rather than just the devtools script i copied form the doc page a while back 		[15:30]
lphuberdeausylvie added something for cron and I was thinking we should build on top of that
but I never really had time to look into it 		[15:38]
jonnybthe tracker thing? i did think about it but thought something more similar to installer/shell.php seemed better [15:39]
lphuberdeauI don't think it had anything to do with trackers
just cron job management inside tiki, and you set a single job as cron for everything 		[15:39]
jonnybah, newsletters - tiki-batch_send_newsletter.php
can't find anything much else (searching for cron) 		[15:40]
lphuberdeauit was either on doc.t.o/Tiki7 or doc.t.o/Tiki8 [15:44]
jonnybaha http://doc.tiki.org/Batch (was tiki 6)
seems quite involved, more to do with changing tracker item status - a simple shell.php in the right place seems cleaner to me 		[15:47]
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lphuberdeauyour call, might want to ping sylvie to see what she had in mind [16:02]
jonnybok, i'll probably commit once i've tested some more and then check (running out of week) [16:04]
lphuberdeauI know the feeling [16:05]
jonnybwhile you're there, i was looking into the analyser stuff as i was needing better searching on numbers and i see there is a TextNum analyser in zend but we don't use it - was there a reason do you recall? [16:05]
lphuberdeauI didn't need it [16:08]
jonnyb:) (i've worked around it now... mostly) [16:08]
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RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: Did you get my message yesterday about adding a new event, tiki.wiki.view? [16:39]
lphuberdeauI did not [16:39]
RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: I wanted to run it by you and see what you thought. [16:39]
lphuberdeausounds good, although adding the base tiki.view event for completeness would be good too [16:40]
RobertPlummerok, will do.
Thanks
lphuberdeau: Another issue, I want to "drop in" a plugin that runs on all tiki pages if needed, how would that best be integrated by using this new tiki.wiki.view event? 		[16:40]
lphuberdeauright now, you'd have to bind some function to the event
there isn't really support for discovery at this stage 		[16:42]
RobertPlummerCould we use just use Zend? [16:45]
lphuberdeau: ? [16:51]
lphuberdeauthat is quite a vague question
what component do you have in mind? 		[16:51]
RobertPlummerJust as zend starts up, when our classes are automatically added, couldn't be just add a bind inside one of them?
ok of the files
for instance, Feed/TextBacklink.php, in that file I could have a bind outside of the class that automatically binds it to the page load event. 		[16:53]
lphuberdeauthey are not automatically added
the prefix is registered, and when a class is requested, it is loaded
that's the __autoload() mechanism in php 		[16:56]
RobertPlummerAh, very good.
So we need to come up with a way to trigger event plugins automatically, right? 		[16:57]
lphuberdeauscanning files evey time is not really an option [16:59]
RobertPlummerok, so tiki-setup it is then. [16:59]
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lphuberdeauevent listeners kind of need to be included in lib/setup/events.php before the inheritence is defined [17:02]
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RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: Is all that is needed the following? -
$events->bind('tiki.wiki.view', 'tiki.view'); 		[17:09]
lphuberdeausomething like that [17:09]
CIA-68tikiwiki: 03robertplummer * r39129 10/trunk/lib/setup/events.php: [NEW] Added a new event tiki.wiki.view [17:10]
RobertPlummerlphuberdeau: done [17:10]
lphuberdeau: In TikiLib::events()->bind(), how do we run static functions from classes? [17:17]
lphuberdeaupretty sure there are samples in that file [17:18]
RobertPlummergot it, "Event_Lib::defer" [17:20]
lphuberdeaukind of like a normal php callback unless I am mistaken [17:21]
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lphuberdeauthat's not really a static method
it's just any method on a lib registered for TikiLib::lib() 		[17:30]
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marclaportepolom [19:39]
jonnybhi marclaporte [19:41]
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ricks99anyone know.. how to get a count of the # of items in a category?
i'd like to add the total number of items within the categpath.tpl 		[20:07]
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CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39130 10/branches/8.x/db/tiki-secdb_8.1_mysql.sql: [REL] Preparing 8.2 release
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39131 10/branches/8.x/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 8.2 release 		[20:16]
marclaporteyay 8.2! [20:23]
CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39132 10/branches/8.x/README: [REL] Update README file for 8.2 [20:24]
pkdillehello Marc :-) [20:24]
jonnybhi pkdille - well done with the releases! [20:25]
pkdillehello jonny :-) thanks ! [20:27]
ricks998.1/6.5 ... when to b announced? [20:27]
CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39133 10/branches/8.x/lang/ (49 files in 49 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 8.2 [20:30]
pkdilleSome of us should do some tests before .... maybe in 1 or 2 days .... 6.5 seems to be ok (nobody claimed)....let's wait also with 8.2 (once the job is done...) [20:31]
CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39134 10/branches/8.x/changelog.txt: [REL] Update changelog.txt for 8.2 [20:31]
ricks99i'll plan to send out monday morning.
are both only security patches? 		[20:32]
pkdille6.5 had some security patches and some language translations
...I didn't look into 8.2.... but I guess there are more fixes / patches 		[20:33]
ricks99k.
tx
anyone know how to get # of items in a category? ^^^ 		[20:33]
CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39135 10/branches/8.x/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 8.2
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39136 10/branches/8.x/db/tiki-secdb_8.2_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 8.2 		[20:35]
jonnybricks99: try $categlib->get_category_objects($id)
doesn't look like there's one to just get the count 		[20:42]
CIA-68tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r39137 10/tags/8.2/: [REL] Tagging release [20:42]
ricks99what does that return? an array of all items in category $id?
gotta be some existing way (i haven't found it yet) -- on the tree when browsing categories, we display the count 		[20:43]
jonnybsorry, can't go digging now - get_category_objects probably returns an array with 'cant' and 'data' in it [20:44]
ricks99k. tx for the pointer [20:45]
jonnybtry looking in tiki-browse_categories.php (and tpl) for how it's done there [20:46]
ricks99it just calls $tree :( [20:48]
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jonnybprobably even slower if you just want the count [20:49]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: hi [20:49]
jonnybhi RobertPlummer [20:50]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: I started integrating rangy, as you know, and I like it, it seems to work well. There is a function called "serialize" in it that gets the dom object offsets of each object that is highlighted and returns it as a string.
It is awesome!, the page highlights without giving any text, the problem is that it is very very unreliable even within the same browser.
I was wondering, do you know of a way to compare text on a php level that allows for some dom modification so that I can re-highlight based off that?
I was thinking of sending the highlighted text back to the server and getting a serialized position of the highlighted text.
but dom is always flacky. 		[20:50]
jonnybnot off hand - do you know xpath? [20:52]
RobertPlummerI do, but even still, I don't think that would be the answer.
There must be a better way! 		[20:54]
jonnybthere's an xml thing in PEAR, but it's v tricky on html [20:55]
RobertPlummerhighlighted text is no good to convert to html, highlighted text doesn't have to be html compliant, meaning you can select the bottom of a table, or half of one object and another of the next.
If I had my new parser written, this would be easy. 		[20:55]
jonnyb:D [20:57]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: I was thinking of writing a regex that was basically the highlighted text.
putting a "." between each word.
It would probably work....
probably ;) 		[21:00]
jonnybwhat's this for? [21:02]
RobertPlummerTextBacklink protocol.
It is pretty complicated.
I can show you the specs if you want to see them. 		[21:02]
jonnybsorry, no spare brain-bandwidth, deep in a huge tracker... [21:05]
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xavi2polom
reading backlog from today 		[21:23]
jonnybpolom xavi2 [21:24]
pkdillehello xavi
8.2 is now alive :-)
the packages are on sourceforge
I've just tested the tar.gz which seems to install, but i didn't do any further tests 		[21:25]
jonnybthanks pkdille - i'll try and test over the weekend (but the packaging script has been pretty reliable for several versions now) [21:28]
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xavihi jonnyb & pkdille
xavi still reading (lots of activity today in irc it seems) 		[21:29]
congrats pkdille and all involved for the packaging of 6.5 and 8.2!
I can give a go to one package
we are in a wooden house in a camping next to the Pyriness, and some free time in front of me while watching a movie :-)
long time with no relaxing night like these last days ... :-) 		[21:34]
jonnybsounds nice xavi - except for the movie maybe? [21:36]
xavi:-D
Gloria watching a movie... me relaxing and chatting on irc ;-)
greetings from Gloria 		[21:36]
RobertPlummerjonnyb: I found the answer I think ;). Just make sure there is a good root to select from with rangy.
problem averted.
polom xavi!
I have to head out in a few. 		[21:36]
xavipolom RobertPlummer :-) [21:37]
jonnybjonnyb wonders why he didn't investigate properly when the client said "a few thousand items" [21:37]
xavi:-)
jonnyb: how many thousands?
isn't csv import enough? 		[21:37]
jonnyb15+ :O [21:37]
xavi(sory to disturb you brain bandwidth)
s/sory/sorry
ok
and csv import trigger timeout or something? 		[21:37]
jonnybi have intermittent gaps while rebuilding stuff [21:38]
xaviah, ok, not nice [21:38]
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jonnybi've written a sprawling great script that is supposed to just import (and update) modified ones [21:39]
xaviok [21:39]
jonnybi'll try and commit an example (or stick it on dev.t.o somewhere) [21:40]
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jonnybhi fabricius [22:16]
fabriciusah nice jonnyb - long time no see ;-) [22:16]
jonnybindeed - been madness past few weeks [22:17]
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jonnybnite all... [23:01]
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